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Title: ClimateGate's Michael Mann Received Stimulus Funds, Media Mum
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Published: Jan 16, 2010
Author: Noel Sheppard
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By Noel Sheppard (Bio | Archive) A scientist in the middle of the ClimateGate scandal received economic stimulus funds last June. As NewsBusters reported on November 28, Penn State University is investigating Professor Michael Mann, the creator of the discredited "Hockey Stick Graph," for his involvement in an international attempt to exaggerate and manipulate climate data in order to advance the myth of manmade global warming. According to the conservative think tank the National Center for Public Policy Research, Mann received $541,184 in economic stimulus funds last June to conduct climate change research. With this in mind, NCPPR issued a press release Thursday asking for these funds to be returned: "It's outrageous that economic stimulus money is being used to support research conducted by Michael Mann at the very time he’s under investigation by Penn State and is one of the key figures in the international Climategate scandal. Penn State should immediately return these funds to the U.S. Treasury," said Tom Borelli, Ph.D., director of the National Center's Free Enterprise Project. Professor Mann is currently under investigation by Penn State University because of activities related to a closed circle of climate scientists who appear to have been engaged in agenda-driven science. Emails and documents mysteriously released from the previously-prestigious Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia in the United Kingdom revealed discussions of manipulation and destruction of research data, as well as efforts to interfere with the peer review process to stifle opposing views. The motivation underlying these efforts appears to be a coordinated strategy to support the belief that mankind's activities are causing global warming. [...] The $541,184 grant is for three years and was initiated in June 2009. Potentially adding insult to injury, Penn State received additional stimulus funds to investigate the impact of climate change last week: This grant appears to have nothing to do with Mann's department. However, given the high-profile the university is currently under as a result of his involvement in ClimateGate, it seems absurd that any federal funds involving climate change would be going to this school while it is investigating its chief proponent of this myth. Maybe more importantly, why are economic stimulus funds being given to a university for scientific research in the first place, especially one with such political overtones? As NCPPR noted in its release: Despite the obviously controversial nature of this funding and its recipient, I can identify absolutely no media coverage concerning the matter. I'm sure now that NCPPR has exposed this hypocrisy, press outlets across the fruited plain will be aggressively investigating economic stimulus grants to Mann and others involved in the ClimateGate scandal in order to inform the public about how their tax dollars are being spent. Of course, I'm not holding my breath.
ClimateGate's Michael Mann Received Stimulus Funds, Media Mum
January 14, 2010 - 09:44 ET In the face of rising unemployment and record-breaking deficits, policy experts at the National Center for Public Policy Research are criticizing the Obama Administration for awarding a half million dollar grant from the economic stimulus package to Penn State Professor Michael Mann, a key figure in the Climategate controversy.
A nearly $1.9 million grant from the National Science Foundation is enabling a Penn State-led group of researchers to continue studies on the potential effects of climate change on the spread of infectious diseases, such as malaria and dengue. The grant is part of federal stimulus funding authorized under the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.
"It's no wonder that Obama's stimulus plan is failing to produce jobs. Taxpayer dollars aren't being used in the ways most likely to spur job creation. The stimulus was not sold to the public as a way to reward a loyalist in the climate change debate. Nor was the stimulus sold as a way to promote the Obama Administration's position on the global warming theory...As is often the case, political considerations corrupt the distribution of government funds," said Deneen Borelli, a fellow with the National Center's Project 21 black leadership network.
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#61. To: buckeroo (#58)
LOL, no just that it would be a waste of time better spent else where.
"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown
one of the resident knuckledraggers was unwilling to speculate on the logical consequences of our depositing another trillion tons of greenhouse gases into that atmosphere. what about you?
What happens when the world population climbs dramatically without assessment?
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
Climategate emails force Al Gore to cancel talk at Copenhagen Al Gore's scheduled December 16th speech with the auspicious title "Climate Conclusion" has been canceled amid the scandal of Climategate. About 3,000 Danes had tickets for the Berlinske Media event that was announced in August. Al Gore has been the poster child for Global Warming, but has been under scrutiny from scientists who argue against the findings of humans' involvement in our climate. This was highlighted in the documentary The Great Global Warming Swindle. A British court had ruled that there were 9 factual errors [LOL !] in An Inconvenient Truth, yet it still won an Academy Award in 2007, along with the Nobel Prize shared with the IPCC. Again in November, mistakes were found in Al Gore's new book begin with the cover. While some are trying to explain away the cancellation, it seems pretty obvious that there is too much skepticism to show up in a large public forum like this. Mr. Gore had to deal with some hard questions at a book signing this past week, and had the readers escorted away rather than discuss Climategate. See that video at the bottom of this post. Unfortunately this apears like a direct attack, but this is all about getting the truth out. The conference on Global Climate is still scheduled to include 100 world leaders, but has come under attack for fraud and deceit. On Tuesday, Australia's Senate voted against their Carbon Trading bill, a measure that Prime Minister Kevin Rudd Last week, Penn State's Michael Mann was placed under investigation after being implicated for his 'trick' in changing old data to make current temperatures look warmer. Unfortunately the old original data was erased, a serious blow to the scientific process. CEI intends to sue NASA Goddard for Climate Change fraud based on 'Freedom of Information'. On Tuesday, The University of East Anglia's Phil Jones was forced to step down as director of the world renown Climate Research Unit due to an investigation of his involvement in the fraud. Rasumssen Reports released today from ClimateDepot.com shows the distrust more Americans have on this issue: "Fifty-nine percent (59%) of Americans say it’s at least somewhat likely that some scientists have falsified research data to support their own theories and beliefs about global warming. Thirty-five percent (35%) say it’s Very Likely. Just 26% say it’s not very or not at all likely that some scientists falsified data. This skepticism does not appear to be the result of the recent disclosure of e-mails confirming such data falsification as part of the so- called “Climategate” scandal. Just 20% of Americans say they’ve followed news reports about those e-mails Very Closely, while another 29% have followed them Somewhat Closely." This past year, The Skeptics Handbook was released by Australia's own Joanne Nova as a way to simplify the debate with four main points. 1. The Greenhouse signature is missing. 2. The strongest evidence was the ice cores, but newer, more detailed data turned the theory inside out. 3. Temperature is not rising. 4. Carbon Dioxide is already doing almost all of the warming it can do.
are you, too, impervious to logic? or have you repealed the laws of physics?
Delightful. You truly are addicted to logical fallacies and specious reasoning. Here we get a "twofer the price of one" i.e. Guilt by Association a well known relative of the Red Herring. As well it amounts to Argumentum Ad Hominem as the implied attack is against me personally and is not based upon any factual data. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Exposition: Guilt by Association is the attempt to discredit an idea based upon disfavored people or groups associated with it. This is the reverse of an Appeal to Misleading Authority, and might be justly called "Appeal to Anti-Authority". An argument to authority argues in favor of an idea based upon associating an authority figure with the idea, whereas Guilt by Association argues against an idea based upon associating it with disreputable people or groups. Senator Joseph McCarthy Exposure: McCarthyism was a specific version of Guilt by Association in which an individual, organization, or idea was associated in some way with communism. An association was made between the target of McCarthyism and communism by linking both through some shared idea. ..." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So, you're in good company there with ol' "Tail Gunner" Joe McCarthy. That is a speculation - key word in your attempt to shore up a dying hypothesis "IF". "IF" is not science it is S-P-E-C-U-L-A-T-I-O-N. Try it on someone who hasn't studied logic, rhetoric, and the "Scientific Method" - you'll get a lot further. (Take Bucky for example.) A MODEL which is all that the Glowbull Warming Alarmists have is just that a MODEL - it is a mathematical computation based upon variables and parameters controlled by the person running the MODEL. A MODEL is not reality it is a simulacrum of reality NOT reality. Neither is it a crystal ball nor any of the other equally reliable means of forecasting the future such as studying chicken guts. You can take a Climate Model and show that the earth will turn into a ball of expanding fire last week depending upon how you jigger the variables and input data. A model is just that a model. Science contrariwise is observations, and mathematics. It is taking the observed data and fitting it into a coherent picture. In a coherent picture declining global average temperatures do not equal Glowbull Warming - no matter how long you hold your breath. The "CRU" data is false, and is shown to be false in the words and e-mails of the very people responsible for the L-I-E-S. I would continue but do not wish to entertain your false argument or attempted "gotcha" any further.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
or have you repealed the laws of physics? Excuse me?
"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown
how much faith do you have in a reality that's created by people who think they are so powerful they're able to create their own reality?
IPCC Scientists Caught Producing False Data To Push Global Warming
want to hazard a guess as to why israel turned lowland gaza back to the palestinians while it continues grabbing palestinians' high ground in the west bank? Again you tout a conclusion based upon a MODEL which was controlled and operated by proven liars. Please demonstrate that sea levels are rising in the real world - not in a controlled M-O-D-E-L.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
what if their reality is fantasy? what if their reality is an attempt to diguise their motive to drag america into wars? what if control of the media, political system, foreign policy and government only goes so far... what if the whole apparatus becomes a global laughingstock?
No, actually I talk to climate scientists, physicist and PhD's of all types. You are welcome to read the late Timo Niroma's work if you wish. "The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown
Your post suggests BLAH, BLAH and more BLAH as you hide from the truth. Is government going to save your tired and stinky ass? No, it is not. But look at yourself hiding ... you think that because of John Birch, you have discovered the truth. ROTFL.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
You do know that it is the same people who fund AGW that have dragged us into wars etc.
"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown
what if your whole apparatus has already become a global laughingstock?
Don't be an ass Buck. Debate please.
"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown
Please demonstrate that sea levels are rising in the real world - not in a controlled M-O-D-E-L. Like the Temp data it has been proven time and again that the sea level rise is based on cherry picked readings.
"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown
what if people have figured out how you operate, have figured out your motives, have seen how well you've wormed yourselves into government and media? what if you've exploited the holyhoax so successfully that no one can overtly resist you, and those people have decided, instead, to give you enough rope to hang yourselves? what if you're walking into the noose?
Sure. Can you find someone for me to debate with? O_I seems convinced that he can fuck around with infinite sustainability. How is that?
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
what if their reality is fantasy? what if their reality is an attempt to diguise their motive to drag america into wars? what if control of the media, political system, foreign policy and government only goes so far... what if the whole apparatus becomes a global laughingstock? Now you resort to quoting words I did not say i.e., A LIE. And you really don't expect me to take your temper tantrum seriously do you? Your "what if's" are ludicrous. At this point you are reduced to pyrotechics and lying. Hint: You lost the argument several posts ago.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
why are you so desperate?
Please demonstrate that sea levels are rising in the real world - not in a controlled M-O-D-E-L. Like the Temp data it has been proven time and again that the sea level rise is based on cherry picked readings. Exactly. We know from ACTUAL data and readings that the Polar Ice Caps are growing, as are most of the worlds major glaciers. So, if more water is bound up in ice what logical inference can we make from that about sea levels? Well lessee' - ice is made from water, water comes from the oceans, so more ice = less water. I suspect, but do not have the data to hand, that we might logically infer that sea levels are receding not rising. This is what has occurred at the onset of every Ice Age - and based upon the 11,500 year cyclical advances and retreats of the ice - we're overdue or about on the mark for a new ICE AGE.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
why is a jack ass such as yourself wasting our time ? fuck you bozo, that has to be a record...enjoy your strange and pathetic life as a discredited hack with chemical imbalances and likely some inbreeding. BOZO
what if you've exploited the holyhoax so successfully that no one can overtly resist you, and those people have decided, instead, to give you enough rope to hang yourselves? what if you're walking into the noose? what are you suggesting here?
"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown
I don't do Psych games either. Where did you take your Psych Degree from? Moo U?
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
I hope you enjoy that mouse in your pocket.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
you dont do psych games, and neither do you answer legitimate questions, such as: what are the logical consequences of depositing another trillion tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.
you're back on bozo too you fucking hack...you are NOTHING but a waste of time, GRACE
I think I'm going to go play on solarcycle24 for a while.
"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown
He/she/it won't answer you.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
It is A FACT that since 1999 the overall global temperature has been downtrending. It is A FACT that the Antarctic Ice Cap has grown thicker. It was the "glowbull warming" that caused all that extra ice. >(;^{]
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Charming the old repeat an irrelevant question over and over acting as though it proves something ploy. Of course it has been answered - a couple of times - you just didn't like the answer.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Which greenhouse gasses would those be? If you are talking about CO2, the logic is that we would reach saturation, if we haven't already, and increasing CO2 beyond that point would have no effect. BTW, water vapor is the biggest greenhouse gas and the Earth is not a greenhouse. Greenhouses warm because of the lack of convection rather than the content of their gasses. The Earth has a lot of convection. Back to CO2, FYI, the Earth is at historic lows for CO2 content despite the recent rise. Where is the evidence that a rise in CO2, or a rise in temp for that matter, would be detrimental?
"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown
so we can rest assured that there will be no consequences from depositing another trillion tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. good enough. likewise, we can rest assured that you have repealed the laws of phyisics.
Are you aware that the AGW hypothesis breaks the laws of thermodynamics?
"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown
The problem the warmists have now is that bereft of facts and data that support their preconceptions they are left playing games, obfuscation, name calling, and avoidance. It reminds me of Churchills comment on fanaticism: "One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
An awesome knee-slapper. Are you a regular subscriber of NEWSMAX.com?
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
original intent apparently is unwilling to follow the logic: if co2 is a greenhouse gas, and we've put a trillion extra tons of the stuff into the atmosphere... nevermind. it wont matter when jesus comes back.
nobody wants to think about the if-iness of jesus.
You're holding out on us, and I want to know just exactly what will happen if we put a trillion extra tons of the stuff into the atmosphere within the time period you refer to. I'm breathless with anticipation.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestAre you saying, ignorance is bliss?
#62. To: farmfriend (#59)
#63. To: farmfriend (#59)
The IPCC is doing exactly what it was created to do. Its charter plainly states that global warming is anthropogenic.
#64. To: farmfriend, buckleroo, pickleroo, patriot scammer, everyone say goodbye because he went round the bend and ain't coming home (#59)
The IPCC is doing exactly what it was created to do. Its charter plainly states that global warming is anthropogenic. Its sole purpose was to lay out a strategy for dealing with it. It was never intended to be a scientific investigation of the validity of AGW.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#65. To: farmfriend (#61)
#66. To: groundresonance, Buckeroo (#47)
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you guys buy every exxon/AEI-funded warming denial that comes down the pike.
From the above link on Guilt by Association: logic demands that you answer the question: what happens if we put another trillion tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere?
#67. To: groundresonance (#65)
are you, too, impervious to logic?
#68. To: Rotara (#64)
#69. To: buckleroo, pickleroo, pobrecito, shill, deep cover shills should take notes (#58)
Are you saying, ignorance is bliss?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#70. To: groundresonance, farmfriend (#54)
Politics masquerading as science.
#71. To: Original_Intent (#66)
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how much faith do you have in a reality that's created by people who think they are so powerful they're able to create their own reality?
#72. To: groundresonance, Original_Intent (#47)
you guys buy every exxon/AEI-funded warming denial that comes down the pike.
#73. To: Original_Intent (#66)
I would continue but do not wish to entertain your false argument or attempted "gotcha" any further.
#74. To: groundresonance, Original_Intent (#71)
what if their reality is an attempt to diguise their motive to drag america into wars?
#75. To: All (#71)
#76. To: buckeroo, Original_Intent (#73)
Your post suggests BLAH, BLAH and more BLAH as you hide from the truth. Is government going to save your tired and stinky ass? No, it is not. But look at yourself hiding ... you think that because of John Birch, you have discovered the truth.
#77. To: Original_Intent, groundresonance (#70)
Again you tout a conclusion based upon a MODEL which was controlled and operated by proven liars.
#78. To: farmfriend (#74)
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#79. To: farmfriend (#76)
#80. To: groundresonance (#71)
how much faith do you have in a reality that's created by people who think they are so powerful they're able to create their own reality?
#81. To: Original_Intent (#80)
#82. To: farmfriend, groundedresonance (#77)
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Again you tout a conclusion based upon a MODEL which was controlled and operated by proven liars.
#83. To: groundresonance, BOZO (#81)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#84. To: groundresonance (#78)
what if people have figured out how you operate, have figured out your motives, have seen how well you've wormed yourselves into government and media?
#85. To: groundresonance (#81)
#86. To: Original_Intent (#82)
We know from ACTUAL data and readings that the Polar Ice Caps are growing, as are most of the worlds major glaciers.
#87. To: Original_Intent (#85)
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I don't do Psych games...
#88. To: buckeroo (#86)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#89. To: Original_Intent (#85)
#90. To: groundresonance (#87)
#91. To: Original_Intent (#46)
It is A FACT that 90% of the world's glaciers are growing. There is data which supports that.
Lord Acton
#92. To: groundresonance (#87)
you dont do psych games, and neither do you answer legitimate questions, such as: what are the logical consequences of depositing another trillion tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.
#93. To: groundresonance, Original_Intent (#87)
you dont do psych games, and neither do you answer legitimate questions, such as: what are the logical consequences of depositing another trillion tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.
#94. To: Original_Intent (#92)
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Charming the old repeat an irrelevant question over and over acting as though it proves something ploy.
#95. To: groundresonance, Original_Intent (#94)
likewise, we can rest assured that you have repealed the laws of phyisics.
#96. To: James Deffenbach (#91)
It was the "glowbull warming" that caused all that extra ice. >(;^{]
"A fanatic is someone who can't change their mind and won't change the subject." ~ Winston Churchill
#97. To: farmfriend (#93)
Back to CO2, FYI, the Earth is at historic lows for CO2 content despite the recent rise
#98. To: Original_Intent (#96)
#99. To: Original_Intent (#96)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#100. To: Original_Intent (#96)
#101. To: groundresonance (#98)
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