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Title: Tea Party Becomes the 'Vote Our Way or We Shoot You' Party
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/ ... r_way_or_we_shoot_you%27_party
Published: Jan 17, 2010
Author: posted by Devilstower , Daily Kos
Post Date: 2010-01-17 00:37:18 by Ferret Mike
Keywords: None
Views: 1200
Comments: 86

"We can go to the soap box, the ballot box, or we can go to the jury box. And hopefully we won't have to go to the bullet box."

Hey, the Tea Party "movement" isn't about violence, or racism, or any of that stuff. It's about calling the health care bill Nazi-inspired and reminding people that Barack Obama is an Indonesian Muslim. Oh, and remember to vote our way or we shoot you.

On-Point Host, Tom Ashbrook: Joining us from Royal Oak, Michigan, is Jeffrey McQueen, founder of USRevolution2.com, which has created a modified American flag to serve as a symbol for the Tea Party movement. He has been protesting government involvement in the auto industry at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit this week.

...

Ashbrook: if the Tea Party works out for you, to your vision, what will we see in ten years?

McQueen: Well I hope across America no politician will travel this country without seeing this flag so they're reminded of who they work for.

Ashbrook: How about the American flag? That's not good enough? You know, the stars and stripes?

McQueen: This flag has never been meant to replace the national flag. This flag has a specific purpose and it's time has come. To show the politicians and the media that we're ready for a second American revolution. And with that, you know, in America we have a choice of four boxes for political change. We can go to the soap box, the ballot box, or we can go to the jury box. And hopefully we won't have to go to the bullet box.

Ashbrook: Bullet box? Are you talking about armed revolution?

McQueen: Have you seen the ammunition sales the last twelve months?

So remember, folks, health care for the poor? That's Nazi BS! True American heroes take up arms to overthrow democratic elections. Got it?

And of course, this isn't the first time that conservatives have raised the idea of using the bullet box to undo the results of those pesky elections.

Catherine Crabill, a Republican nominee for Virginia House of Delegates: We have a chance to fight this battle at the ballot box before we have to resort to the bullet box. I am glad for all of us who enjoy the use of firearms for hunting, but make no mistake, that was not the intent of the Founding Fathers. Our second amendment right was to guard against tyranny.

So vote conservative and all is well. Screw it up at the ballot box, and that'll have to get rec-t-fied by my leetle friend here. Got it?

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#1. To: ferret mike, WEASEL MIKE (#0)

Kill a World Kommie for Mommy...?


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-01-17   0:41:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

So remember, folks, health care for the poor? That's Nazi BS! True American heroes take up arms to overthrow democratic elections. Got it?

Tortured logic.

Kind of like those poor bastards that are still being tortured under George W. Obusha.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-01-17   0:41:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Original_Intent (#2)


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-01-17   0:43:45 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Original_Intent (#2)

Well, one can certainly lead the Fox brainwashed to protest, but you can't teach them to think too.

It something entirely different to call for an armed insurrection, but some of these folks just understand the end does not justify the means.

Protest, regardless of the quarter it comes from, is as American as apple pie, but calling for armed insurrection is ignorant.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-01-17   0:49:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

This author is a complete and total moron.

Somewhere, Jimmy Carter is laughing and saying, "Finally! I won't be the worst President ever!"

mirage  posted on  2010-01-17   0:50:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Ferret Mike (#4)

Protest, regardless of the quarter it comes from, is as American as apple pie, but calling for armed insurrection is ignorant.

Nobody is calling for immediate armed insurrection. However, it is occasionally needed, as the Battle of Athens in 1946 showed.

Again, the author is a moron who is drawing conclusions based on personal prejudice with nothing to back up the hot air.

Somewhere, Jimmy Carter is laughing and saying, "Finally! I won't be the worst President ever!"

mirage  posted on  2010-01-17   0:55:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: ferret mike, WEASEL MIKE (#4)

To ONCE AGAIN demonstrate what a LYING FRAD sos you are; Ron Paul and real Americans started the now seemingly totally cooped Tea Party movement.

You're such a twit...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-01-17   0:56:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Rotara (#1)

"Kill a World Kommie for Mommy...?"

Actually, my favorite cliché in the Army was "Happiness is a clean kill."

Besides, I have you pegged more as a "Nuke them until they glow, then shoot them in the dark" kind then someone who would off someone for your Mom. But hey, whatever fires your rocket.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-01-17   0:57:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: ferret mike, WEASEL MIKE (#4)

Just like the occupied Iraqi people and the occupied people in Afghanistan; ALL of those under the thumb of our 700-some bases around the world...not just YES, but HELL YES it's fucking time. Don't be afraid, we will treat you better than you fascist neocon/neocommie Traitors treat your prey...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-01-17   0:58:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Rotara (#7)

"To ONCE AGAIN demonstrate what a LYING FRAD sos you are; Ron Paul and real Americans started the now seemingly totally cooped Tea Party movement."

I really like Ron Paul. I watched that video of his speech posted in here earlier today and found it galvanizing.

He is a great man.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-01-17   0:59:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: ferret mike, WEASEL MIKE (#8)

That would be you, World Kommie War Mongering Fascist.

I only aim at Traitors to my nation.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-01-17   0:59:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: ferret mike, WEASEL MIKE (#10) (Edited)

"To ONCE AGAIN demonstrate what a LYING FRAD sos you are; Ron Paul and real Americans started the now seemingly totally cooped Tea Party movement."

I really like Ron Paul. I watched that video of his speech posted in here earlier today and found it galvanizing.

He is a great man.

Fuck you mike. You're a sorry Traitor POS who isn't qualified to carry RP's sack sweat...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-01-17   1:01:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Rotara (#9)

"Don't be afraid, we will..."

...talk more about death and mayhem more then your ideas and will never post anything with love of humanity or compassion.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-01-17   1:04:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Rotara (#12) (Edited)

"Fuck you mike. You're a sorry Traitor POS who isn't qualified to carry RP's sack sweat..."

Whining and barking, you do both well. Well, as I said before, I just feel sorry for you.

I can't be bothered with wasting anger or passion on someone like yourself, but you go ahead and be as rabid assed insane as you feel you have to be.

You really admire your ego, perhaps you should marry it, you both make a nice couple.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-01-17   1:10:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Rotara (#11)

"I only aim at Traitors to my nation."

Hint: being the judge, jury and executioner is lynch mob grade reactionary fare, not due process and a real attempt at justice.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-01-17   1:13:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Ferret Mike (#15) (Edited)

being the judge, jury and executioner is lynch mob grade reactionary fare

that's how it will start.

they will find haters they can steer, haters that are willing to play god.

they will turn the haters loose on the rest of us, and then we'll have to become as bad as them to defend ourselves.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-17   1:19:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Ferret Mike (#15)

it seems that, since they have so much more practice at being shitballs, they'll have the advantage.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-17   1:21:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: groundresonance (#16)

"that's how it will start.

they will find haters they can steer, haters that are willing to play god.

they will turn the haters loose on the rest of us, and then we'll have to become as bad as them to defend ourselves."

Actually, you surprise me, that's pretty darn insightful.

Yes, we all know that after a successful revolution, it's usually those that did the dirty work who are offed first.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-01-17   1:29:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Ferret Mike (#15)

i guess the best thing to do is study the resistance movements that we're seeing today, although it's gonna be hard to find one that's not polluted by israeli american money.

there exists the bare possibility that people will rally around decency... but they seem mostly to go the other way when things get bad.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-17   1:32:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: All (#19)

...the problem being: we dont know how much of "the other way" is the result of doofus fucks from washington dc advising them.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-17   1:38:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Ferret Mike (#18)

so it boils down to decency.

it boils down to "how indecent can you get if you're clinging to the idea of decency, when the people you're fighting are shitheads?"

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-17   1:43:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Ferret Mike (#18)

but having observed vietnam firsthand, it seems to me that, whatever other faults they had, the vietnamese nationalists were more nearly decent than the american puppets.

so we lost the support of the common people, and that was the end of that.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-17   1:48:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Ferret Mike (#18) (Edited)

so have the common people in america been brutalized so badly by their media that decency is no longer a factor?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-17   1:50:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: groundresonance (#20)

"...the problem being: we dont know how much of "the other way" is the result of doofus fucks from washington dc advising them."

Yep, being in office and having to mind the vested interest does nothing for impartial adherence to the principles that gave birth to our revolution and helped draft the U.S. Constitution when the Articles of Confederation proved to be unworkable.

Back in the day of 'muck rakers' like Drew Pearson and Jack Anderson and others that did commentary that worked to try to keep politicos honest rather then to work their own ideological bend, we as a nation were allot better off.

The news pundits have forgotten that people need to understand the common base we all have that creates national cohesion and commonality of purpose and to know the difference of that from politicians acting to serve their own interests and interests of those who have bought them off.

We as a nation really have allot of work to do if we ever want this country to survive to the end of this century in one piece.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-01-17   1:56:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Ferret Mike (#24)

We as a nation really have allot of work to do if we ever want this country to survive to the end of this century in one piece.

the place to start, if you're serious, is shitcanning the boilerplate.

you've got to decide, now, who you'd shoot if you had the chance.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-17   2:00:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Ferret Mike (#24)

...because they're content with a cold civil war as long as they can maintain it.

but they have no illusions, whatsoever, about maintaining the cold civil war forever.

it will turn hot, then you'll have to decide.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-17   2:02:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Ferret Mike (#24)

*yawn*

another comedy thread at 4um

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-17   2:05:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

deleted

The relationship between morality and liberty is a linear one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-01-17   7:53:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

Ashbrook: Bullet box? Are you talking about armed revolution?

McQueen: Have you seen the ammunition sales the last twelve months?

I honestly don't know anyone who would vote for the Rs or 'conservatives' as currently assembled, and expect to change the current corruption that exists in Washington. I used the word corruption intentionally, because that is the problem with the National party. It's bought and paid for by special interests and these interests run counter to American values (read low taxes and personal freedom). That said, the point about the enormous amounts of gun and ammunition sales is key here. They haven't been bought only to surrender if Madame Pelosi deems them unlawful. Should that awful miscalculation ever come, many would refuse to surrender their weapons. Would you?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-01-17   9:12:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Rotara (#1)

Oh, we're the John Birch Society, the John Birch Society
Here to save our country from a communistic plot
Join the John Birch Society holding off the Reds
We'll use our hand and hearts and if we must we'll use our heads
Do you want Justice Warren for your Commissar?
Do you want Mrs. Krushchev in there with the DAR?
You cannot trust your neighbor or even next of kin
If mommie is a commie then you gotta turn her in
Oh, we're the John Birch Society, the John Birch Society
Fighting for the right to fight the right fight for the Right
Join the John Birch Society as we're marching on
And we'll all be glad to see you when we're meeting in the John
The John, the John Birch So- ci- i- teee.

A trillion here, a trillion there, soon you're not talking real money

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2010-01-17   9:31:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: ferret mike, WEASEL MIKE (#15)

Hint: being the judge, jury and executioner is lynch mob grade reactionary fare, not due process and a real attempt at justice.

Go whine to somebody who gives a fig you sorry deconstructionist Traitor...y'all had every chance in the world and you chose the path you chose.

So deal.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-01-17   10:30:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Rotara (#31)

Years from now you'll understand that the Tea Parties are already controlled. This is just a charade. All this publicized bluster does is complete the process of encircling the "joiners" in a virtual detention camp of known enemies of American democracy. Listening carefully to Bob Basso's faux conservatism, and noting that Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter are tea partiers should be our first clues.

Yes, these tea partiers will point guns at Americans who refuse to toe the line on the war. The Federal Reserve pays for their big weapons systems projects and funds America's 700 military bases around its global empire. These American imperialists will not give up the Fed, they will not give up the war, and they will not give up Israel. They won't even give up on putting illegals into the American military to fight our so-called enemies abroad.

Any "change" that comes out of the Tea Parties will not change anything of substance. We may have new faces in D.C. but they'll still be members of AIPAC.

Deasy  posted on  2010-01-17   11:23:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

So, you don't like the original intent of the Second Amendment, Mike?

If so, you and the rest of the Daily Kos nanny staters can opt out. Maybe, if you are lucky, you will find an armed American willing to defend the lot of you if necessary.

This nation is long over due for a revolution. It's pathetic that people, such as the author of this article, continue to think that goobermint will fix anything.

BTW, it's not about "conservatives" it's about what is left of our CONSTITUTION. Of course, Daily Kos neither understands nor cares about that document because they are all on board for a one world government that will save, care for and hold the hand of every person from cradle to grave--despite the fact that no smaller government has or ever will accomplish that feat.

This article is useful as toilet paper--that's about it.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-01-17   11:57:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: abraxas (#33)

bump


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-01-17   11:58:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Jethro Tull (#29)

I would never surrender my weapons, ammo or loading equipment. And I got the ammo making equipment because people in Washington scare me. I know too many of them are gun grabbers.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-01-17   12:26:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Ferret Mike (#35)

Yep, and those people in Washington are empowered by some fellow citizens who can't see the long term ramifications of supporting Fabians.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-01-17   12:29:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: abraxas (#33)

"So, you don't like the original intent of the Second Amendment, Mike?"

Sure do. As far as the KOS goes, I am an occasional reader of that site and and on rare occasions I have posted there. It's really not my cup of tea on many levels.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-01-17   12:29:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Jethro Tull (#36)

LOL

oy vey...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-01-17   12:35:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Ferret Mike (#37)

It's really not my cup of tea on many levels.

You do realize that there are some Democrats who actually do understand the Constitution, including civil liberties and the Bill of Rights, right?

Why do you post Daily Kos crap here? You don't really buy into the bs they are selling, nor do posters around here. It's a waste of space. Can't you post some views from Democrats who are FOR the Constitution? Or do you not frequent any forums or sites that perscribe to that POV?

Why not stick to cups of tea that we all drink, including yourself?

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-01-17   12:49:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: abraxas (#39)

You don't have a point. I chose what I post, not you.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-01-17   18:28:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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