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Title: Senate Proposes Increasing U.S. Debt Limit $1.9 Trillion to $14.3 Trillion
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URL Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&sid=aKQk6SUcSr3A
Published: Jan 21, 2010
Author: By Alison Fitzgerald and James Rowley
Post Date: 2010-01-21 23:03:15 by DeaconBenjamin
Keywords: None
Views: 103
Comments: 6

Jan. 21 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. debt limit would be raised by $1.9 trillion to $14.29 trillion under an amendment proposed in the Senate.

The chamber began debate yesterday on raising the debt ceiling for the fifth time in two years after lower tax revenue from the recession and higher stimulus spending boosted the calendar-year budget deficit to an all-time high last year.

“If Congress does not enact this legislation, and soon, then the Treasury would default on its debt for the first time in history,” said Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, a Montana Democrat.

The White House in a statement urged lawmakers to pass the measure. “Such an increase is critically important to make sure that financing of federal government operations can continue without interruption,” it said.

The proposed ceiling would probably allow the Treasury to continue its borrowing until next year, said Michael Feroli, an economist at JPMorgan Chase & Co. in New York.

Congress passed a short-term increase in the debt limit to $12.39 trillion last month after a group of senators, led by Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad of North Dakota, refused to vote on a longer-term extension unless Congress created a commission to study deficit reduction.

The Obama administration reached a tentative accord with congressional Democrats to create a version of the panel by executive order, House aides said. The agreement was negotiated by House Democratic Leader Steny Hoyer of Maryland and Vice President Joseph Biden, said one of the House staffers. The aides commented on condition of anonymity.

Vote in Congress

The proposal by Conrad and Republican Senator Judd Gregg of New Hampshire would require Congress to vote on the commission’s recommendations without making any changes. With a commission created by presidential order, congressional leaders would promise to bring its proposals to a vote although such a vote wouldn’t be required by law.

A commission appointed by the president would be “a backup” if Senate sponsors can’t get the votes to pass “what we think makes the most sense,” a panel created by Congress, Conrad told reporters. He said he didn’t expect to win approval of his proposal, which Baucus opposed in a speech on the Senate floor.

Gregg told reporters that the proposal to create a commission by executive order was “a very cynical act by the administration” that “is by definition partisan and the whole purpose” is to have a bipartisan body.

“There is no way you can require a vote” by Congress so “it’s a nothing-burger,” Gregg said.

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#1. To: DeaconBenjamin (#0)

The U.S. debt limit would be raised by $1.9 trillion to $14.29 trillion under an amendment proposed in the Senate.

The Crash will be spectacular. I wonder if we'll see looting and general lawlessness like that in Somalia right now??

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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2010-01-21   23:44:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: X-15 (#1)

I wonder if we'll see looting and general lawlessness like that in Somalia right now??

i'd say yes.

christine  posted on  2010-01-21   23:48:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: DeaconBenjamin (#0)

The U.S. debt limit would be raised by $1.9 trillion to $14.29 trillion under an amendment proposed in the Senate.

As GWBush would say, "we are a nation of law." What is wrong with that? Remember he raised the federal debt from Clinton's 2000 5Bn to about 10Bn in 2008 chasing WMD in far off deserts half-way around the world before another group of ass-wipes took over the reins of terror in Washington DC. BFD, another SMILLIONs and ZILLIONs, another GILLION .. who the fuck cares?

Whats the problem with the geometrical growth?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2010-01-22   3:08:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine, X-15 (#2)

X-15: I wonder if we'll see looting and general lawlessness like that in Somalia right now??

christine: i'd say yes.

Recommendations, please. Are you saying some posters should stock up on tampons AND bullets AND guns AND gold AND silver? My God, I know what to do with a loaded firearm. And, I know what to do with silver & gold. But what do I do with stocked upped tampons?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2010-01-22   3:48:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: buckeroo (#4)

But what do I do with stocked upped tampons?

You will be able to sell them for a premium to your neighboring women??

_________________________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2010-01-22   12:32:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: X-15 (#1)

I wonder if we'll see looting and general lawlessness like that in Somalia right now??

Millions have already voted on that poll question.

Gun, ammunition sales remain robust across the U.S.

A trillion here, a trillion there, soon you're not talking real money

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2010-01-22   12:45:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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