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Title: WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON IN HAITI? (very interesting read)
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URL Source: http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin564.htm
Published: Jan 25, 2010
Author: Chuck Baldwin
Post Date: 2010-01-25 20:13:28 by christine
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People of goodwill everywhere are rightly sympathetic to the plight of hundreds of thousands of innocent Haitians in the aftermath of the terrible earthquake that rocked the island country. Private donations and volunteer efforts are pouring into Haiti from all over the globe—especially from the United States. This is a good thing, right? So, why I am troubled? Simply put, I cannot remember such an all-out "relief effort" by our nation's military and government forces following a natural disaster anywhere—ever! Not even New Orleans, Louisiana, and surrounding Gulf Coast communities here in the homeland received the kind of attention from Washington, D.C., that Haiti is receiving. According to Agence France-Press (AFP), "The US military is ramping up its mission in quake-hit Haiti, with 20,000 US troops expected to operate on ground and offshore by Sunday [January 24], the US commander overseeing the region said." No doubt, this would include ships and personnel from the USS Carl Vinson carrier group. Cost to US taxpayers to send an entire carrier group—along with more than 20,000 (so far) military personnel—to Haiti already numbers in the multiplied millions of dollars. It is also almost certain that there will be no quick exit from the island nation. There never is. In other words, our military presence (dare I say occupation?) in Haiti will doubtless last for years. At least, that's the way Latin American and European countries see it. And they are probably right. Suffice it to say that the United States military is now completely in charge in Haiti. At this point, it would be very enlightening for everyone to read Walter Williams' column dated January 20, 2010, entitled "Haiti's Avoidable Death Toll." See Walter's column here. In short, Williams notes that the high death toll in Haiti is directly related to the inferior political/economic philosophies of the Haitian government. There is no economic liberty, which has relegated it to being one of the world's poorest nations, with no opportunity to build the kind of homes and businesses that can withstand natural disasters. Williams is right when he says, "President Barack Obama called the quake 'especially cruel and incomprehensible.' He would be closer to the truth if he had said that the Haitian political and economic climate that make Haitians helpless in the face of natural disasters are 'especially cruel and incomprehensible.'" Williams also observes, "Corruption is rampant" in Haiti. Crime is, likewise, ubiquitous in Haiti, with little real law enforcement. Private property rights are nonexistent. Like many (if not most) third world countries, people live in tyranny and bondage to insensitive, power-mad strongmen who use up the country's resources for their own selfish purposes. Tyranny always impoverishes people; freedom enriches them. Williams rightly concludes, "Haiti's disaster demands immediate Western assistance but it's only the Haitian people who can relieve themselves of the deeper tragedy of self-inflicted poverty." Amen. All of that said, however, there are still several things bugging me about the Haiti story. For one thing, why was an earthquake of this magnitude not felt beyond Port-au-Prince? (The only reports saying tremors were felt out of Haiti belong to US-controlled sources.) All of the testimonies that I have read from people living in the adjoining country of the Dominican Republic (which shares the same island with Haiti) that were quoted by French, British, or Spanish outlets universally say they felt nothing. If the foreign press is reporting the story accurately, the devastation was almost exclusively contained in and around Port-au-Prince. That is very strange to me. Even most of the roads reportedly remained open after the quake. Another oddity is the fact that this earthquake did not produce a tsunami. It is being called "miraculous" that an earthquake measuring 7.0 on the Richter Scale did not produce a colossal tsunami, which would have affected everyone in the region. Furthermore, does the French government know something that we don't—but should? According to a report of the Global Analysis International Intelligence (GAII), "Not coincidentally, Agence France-Press (AFP), which of course is closely affiliated with French intelligence, filed a report on 14th January which contained the following concluding sentence: "'On Wednesday, Obama ordered a "swift, coordinated and aggressive effort to save lives" in Haiti following the murderous quake, as a massive US aid mission swung into action, using troops, naval forces, aircraft and rescue teams.' "FACT: An 'act of God,' or natural calamity, is NOT a 'murderous quake.' "The use of the word MURDEROUS here implies that someone is doing the MURDERING." GAII further speculates that the earthquake may have been the work of US Black Ops, which "flattened the French embassy and many of its officials, imploded the United Nations' own establishments in the Haitian capital, and no doubt obliterated evidence of US Government and rogue official drug-running complicity . . . channeled through the Haitian capital for many years." See the intelligence report here. Intelligence reports are also circulating about the possible disruption of liens and seizures of trillions of dollars by the international community relative to past crimes committed by former Presidents George Bush I and II, and Bill Clinton, which were being channeled through Haiti's Central Bank. If any of this is even remotely true, it is certainly more than convenient that the Haitian capital was destroyed. This particular part of the story is a real sore spot with me. And I know if I broach this topic, many readers (especially my Christian brethren who live under the delusion that the Bush family can do no wrong) will refuse to believe anything I report and will even take their anger and umbrage out on me. So be it. I am personally convinced that certain members of the Bush and Clinton families have been involved in the international smuggling of illicit drugs for decades. I have spoken in confidence with those who were in positions to know, and they have emphatically told me that both then-Arkansas Governor Bill Clinton and then-President George H.W. Bush were complicit in CIA-assisted drug running out of Mena, Arkansas. (You don't think I would say this if I did not have absolute confidence in the integrity and credibility of these sources, do you? Plus, why would they tell me this at potential great harm to themselves, if it were not true? And, no, I cannot divulge their names, for obvious reasons.) And there is absolutely no reason to believe that similar operations are not ongoing. In my opinion, it would be utterly naïve to think otherwise. After all, it has been often reported that the CIA used Army Special Forces troops to facilitate the smuggling of drugs out of Indochina during the Vietnam War, has it not? Yes, it has. That rogue elements within the US government would use war--or even earthquakes—as cover and facilitation for illegal drug smuggling or money laundering would not surprise me one bit. I realize it is extremely difficult for many Americans to contemplate that members of their own federal government could be evil enough to be involved in anything such as is implied above. According to the thinking of many Americans, evil people only live in Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, or North Korea. And, of course, that is exactly what government propagandists want us to believe. The truth is, no country or people has a monopoly on sin. As the prophet Jeremiah was inspired to say, "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?" (Jeremiah 17:9) The Apostle Paul agreed. He told the Philippians, "We . . . have no confidence in the flesh." (Philippians 3:3) Thomas Jefferson said virtually the same thing when he said, "In questions of power, then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution." This is why Jefferson and the rest of America's founders insisted that we should be diligent to hold our civil magistrates accountable to the limits and protections of the US Constitution. They well understood the sentiments so wisely expressed by Lord Acton, "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men." Christians, of all people, should understand this. So, why are so many of us so quick to believe everything our government and their toadies in the national media are telling us? Are we so naïve as to believe that unregenerate politicians in Washington, D.C., are incapable of the same evil acts of barbarity and savagery that might be found in other parts of the world? Are sinners less sinful because they happened to receive their fallen nature from American bloodlines? Am I saying that Black Ops personnel manufactured the earthquake in Haiti—and killed tens of thousands of people in the process—for the purpose of hiding or facilitating illegal activity? No, I am not. How in the world would I know it, even if it were true? What I am saying is that, once again, for me, there are many things that do not add up regarding what is going on in Haiti. The way the earthquake behaved; the lack of related seismic and tsunamic activity usually associated with earthquakes of this magnitude; the unprecedented involvement of US military forces being used for "relief efforts" even as commanders are desperate to fill combat theaters in Iraq and Afghanistan; the occupation of another independent nation, which occurred at lightning speed; the vast sums of US taxpayer dollars being expended; the devastation done to key Haitian governmental and banking institutions—which were known to be conduits for international financial disbursements—with virtually no devastation experienced anywhere else; and intelligence reports of surreptitious activity circulating all over Europe and Latin America all add up to one big question, What's really going on in Haiti?
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#1. To: christine (#0)
All of that said, however, there are still several things bugging me about the Haiti story. Baldwin should have stopped right there. Everything after is Chuck dancing with his own ignorance.
Careful, Mr. Baldwin. They kill people for less.
Chuck is dead on target.
If any of this is even remotely true, it is certainly more than convenient that the Haitian capital was destroyed. and look who's heading the relief effort (haha).
Blue, surely you do not buy into the above that is openly played by Chavez?????
After all, it has been often reported that the CIA used Army Special Forces troops to facilitate the smuggling of drugs out of Indochina during the Vietnam War, has it not? Yes, it has. That rogue elements within the US government would use war--or even earthquakes—as cover and facilitation for illegal drug smuggling or money laundering would not surprise me one bit. I know with 100% certainty as fact, from personal friends, family and my own research / experiences, that this is true...it's one of the Top 20 reasons that I am a 'domestic terrorist' as defined by the feral reserve government.
lol
They go after Chuck or any one of a number of esteemed Americans and that will simply start the fugly festivities that much sooner...everyone on this end is 100% prepared for come what may as the bloody recapture of our nation comes ever closer.
Weird Colored Clouds In Sky 30 Mins Before China Quake - Vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKMTSDzU1Z4 'Haiti Full Of Oil' (1-28-08) - US HAARPs Quake & Grabs Oil? http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.metropolehaiti.com%2Fmetropole%2Ffull_une_fr.php%3Fid%3D13439 UFO Or HAARP Over Haiti Night Before Quake - Vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0RzX3uqAls Why Is The US Military Occupying Four Airports In Haiti? http://www.politicaltheatrics.net/2010/01/why-is-the-us-military-occupying-four-airports-in-haiti/
I got to know an older gent, as a result of renting then buying a condo many years ago who was fluent in Russian and German. Both he and his wife were longtime employees of the CIA, as he mentioned to me after several years and my interest in foreign affairs were obvious. He was mentioned in a book that he directed me to, and having coctails at his house with numerous plaques on the wall commemerating he, and his wife's, years with the agency made it obvious he was truthful. I would have believed him anyway, that's just how it was. I enquired about the alleged heroin smuggling during Vietnam. He said he was part of it, and thought it was fully justified. I really doubt once a secret agency, above the law, tastes such a sweet source of corruption, there is any end to it.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" Chuck's not saying that, Cyni. he's simply stating that things don't add up for him and he's asking questions.
isn't it amazing how people can justify anything?
He is posing questions that have zero validity to be asked. Actually he is agreeing with Chavez.
Is this the dipshit from the libertarian party that ran for president? Sure glad I didn't vote for him.
www.libertysflame.com
you're calling Pastor Chuck Baldwin a dipshit? he ran for President with the Constitution Party. why don't you use a search engine before you post such stupidity? sheesh.
Yes it is. And I think instructive to acknowledge this. A lot of reactionary history has it's genesis in "we had no choice" but had to do.... As in we were in Vietnam and some one killed our solider so we HAD to escalate the violence... We had "no choice" in the matter. The reality is that we had a heck of a lot of choice in the matter. We might have, for instance, considered why the solider was killed in the first place. Because of the French oppressively colonizing the people of Vietnam and the US Stupidly continuing the policies of the French for which reason has never been well explained. Unless we needed a Monster to scare the American peoples into governmental submission. When in fact they, the colonial beneficaries of the Vietnam system had been fooled by their own self interests and propaganda into actions that benefited themselves at the expense of their community or our nation. I read a French national survey about from 1957, that of the 40,000 French nationals, living the good life in Vietnam, they only found FOUR that were fluent in the native language. It is a fact that the French Native Council, dealing with national native concerns, referred to the Vietnam natives who where representatives of the peoples in the formal judicial proceedings as "The conquered representatives of the Vietnam peoples". Our irrational support of Israel is a good example of this counter productive notion. This is hardly my original thought - it has been thoroughly explored by many historians.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" As a Republican Party member, Baldwin was state chair of the Florida Moral Majority in the 1980s. However, during the 2000 campaign of Republican George W. Bush for U.S. President, Baldwin vacated the party and began a long period of criticism of Bush. Baldwin endorsed U.S. Representative Ron Paul for the 2008 Republican nomination for president, and Paul in turn endorsed Baldwin for the presidency in the 2008 general election. Baldwin supports lessening U.S. involvement in the United Nations, reducing U.S. income taxes and repeal of the Patriot Act. He would withdraw troops from Iraq, seek to end illegal immigration, and enforce stricter immigration laws. Emphasizing "America's Christian heritage", he supports the gold standard, the right to keep and bear arms, homeschooling, and pro-life legislation such as the Sanctity of Life Act. I'm biting my fingertips to keep from typing words expressing my annoyance with you.
Well, the cooking and food evidently was greatly improved to everyone's delight. Of that I know of no complaint.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" My advice is don't waste a good manicure on a stoner. Let 'er rip.
Shocked! Shocked I tell you! I can't believe Chuck Baldwin would write such an article. What was he thinking? I voted for this guy for President of the USA. Ron Paul endorsed him. This is insane! The fingers being pointed at past presidents for natural disasters and all else wrong with the USA is a ploy used by the Mossad to direct people's wrath away from the FED and to their puppets. If the truth of 9/11 ever comes out they don't want to be blamed for it, but rather have their puppets take the blame.
God is always good!
Ok I got the political party wrong. Nevertheless this guy comes off as a complete moron on this piece. Are you biting your nails about cyni's comment and rickys too?
www.libertysflame.com
New thread referencing former defense secretary Cohen's scalar EM weapons:
Chuck Baldwin is a good and decent man. And he knows and respects the Constitution too, at least according to my understanding of the articles he has written. Not saying I have read them all but I have read a good many and he seems to have a good understanding of the Constitution and how the government is supposed to work.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Excellent read and thanks for posting.. I found two sites worth a read on some subtle explanation. No news mainstream news media has mentioned that Gen. P.K. Keen and U.S. AID were there PRIOR to the quake.
Williams rightly concludes, "Haiti's disaster demands immediate Western assistance but it's only the Haitian people who can relieve themselves of the deeper tragedy of self-inflicted poverty." Amen.
#2. To: christine (#0)
I am personally convinced that certain members of the Bush and Clinton families have been involved in the international smuggling of illicit drugs for decades.
#3. To: Cynicom (#1)
#4. To: bluegrass (#3)
Intelligence reports are also circulating about the possible disruption of liens and seizures of trillions of dollars by the international community relative to past crimes committed by former Presidents George Bush I and II, and Bill Clinton, which were being channeled through Haiti's Central Bank.
#5. To: bluegrass (#3)
The way the earthquake behaved; the lack of related seismic and tsunamic activity usually associated with earthquakes of this magnitude;
#6. To: christine (#0)
I have spoken in confidence with those who were in positions to know, and they have emphatically told me that both then-Arkansas Governor Bill Clinton and then-President George H.W. Bush were complicit in CIA-assisted drug running out of Mena, Arkansas. (You don't think I would say this if I did not have absolute confidence in the integrity and credibility of these sources, do you? Plus, why would they tell me this at potential great harm to themselves, if it were not true? And, no, I cannot divulge their names, for obvious reasons.) And there is absolutely no reason to believe that similar operations are not ongoing. In my opinion, it would be utterly naïve to think otherwise.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#7. To: Cynicom (#1)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#8. To: bluegrass (#2)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#9. To: Rotara, bluegrass, christine, Cynicom (#7)
#10. To: Rotara (#6)
often reported that the CIA used Army Special Forces troops to facilitate the smuggling of drugs out of Indochina during the Vietnam War, has it not?
#11. To: Cynicom (#5)
Am I saying that Black Ops personnel manufactured the earthquake in Haiti—and killed tens of thousands of people in the process—for the purpose of hiding or facilitating illegal activity? No, I am not. How in the world would I know it, even if it were true?
#12. To: tom007 (#10)
He said he was part of it, and thought it was fully justified.
#13. To: christine (#11)
"For one thing, why was an earthquake of this magnitude not felt beyond Port-au-Prince? (The only reports saying tremors were felt out of Haiti belong to US-controlled sources.) All of the testimonies that I have read from people living in the adjoining country of the Dominican Republic (which shares the same island with Haiti) that were quoted by French, British, or Spanish outlets universally say they felt nothing. If the foreign press is reporting the story accurately, the devastation was almost exclusively contained in and around Port-au-Prince. That is very strange to me. Even most of the roads reportedly remained open after the quake.
#14. To: christine (#0)
#15. To: A K A Stone (#14)
#16. To: christine (#12)
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isn't it amazing how people can justify anything?
#17. To: A K A Stone (#14)
Charles Obadiah "Chuck" Baldwin (born May 3, 1952) is an American politician and founder-pastor of Crossroad Baptist Church in Pensacola, Florida. He was the presidential nominee of the Constitution Party for the 2008 U.S. Presidential election and had previously been its nominee for U.S. vice president in 2004. He hosts a daily one-hour radio program, "Chuck Baldwin Live", and writes a daily editorial column carried on its website, on News With Views, on VDare, and in several newspapers.
#18. To: All (#16)
When in fact they, the colonial beneficaries of the Vietnam system
#19. To: christine (#17)
I'm biting my fingertips to keep from typing words expressing my annoyance with you.
#20. To: christine (#0)
#21. To: christine (#15)
you're calling Pastor Chuck Baldwin a dipshit? he ran for President with the Constitution Party.
#22. To: christine (#0)
#23. To: christine (#17)
I'm biting my fingertips to keep from typing words expressing my annoyance with you.
Lord Acton
#24. To: christine (#0)
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