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Title: Alex Jones disrupts 2nd Amendment rally, divides protest
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT7BW2CaPUw
Published: Jan 25, 2010
Author: WACAustin
Post Date: 2010-01-27 09:58:48 by randge
Keywords: Alex Jones, guns shows, protest, Austin
Views: 4359
Comments: 390
Alex Jones Exposes... Alex Jones! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT7BW2CaPUw Alex Jones Turns Peaceful Gun Rights Demonstration Into CHAOS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdJ4zhiB2s4 You Gotta Hard On for Me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWM17wiHhww Poster Comment: I won't tax you with a lot of blabber & half-baked opinion. You all here are big folks and know the meaning of what you see. Patience with the second video. There is a lot of lens time on the pavement, but it bears watching all the way through. Most interested in your comments.
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#289. To: christine, all (#285)
I'm not the one you pinged, obviously, but I'd like to answer that. We will not win by massive sweeping accomplishments by any one person. The job is too big. I don't want anyone to think I am hunting for brownie points, but you are just as responsible for fighting tyranny as anyone. You do what you can, I do what I can, and so does everyone else. We all fight the beast in our own ways. Sometimes it's just not wise to divulge too much in a open forum like this one. I'm just here for the fellowship. Posting opinions here is not resisting, IMO. Posting articles is a form of resisting because we are exposing what the bastards are trying to hide. You're maybe looking for someone well known, to answer your question. I dont see it that way. Anyone can resist, and if they don't blow a trumpet, or a f'n bullhorn every damn time they say they are "resisting tyranny", then they have my personal respect. This fawning over VIPs has to stop. It's no different than the hollyweird gossip rags bickering over which celebrity dresses better at some phony awards show, or who is dating who. I don't understand why anyone cares about that crap, anymore than I understand why people admire alternative personalities, especially when they pull a stunt like Jones did in the OP. It's not about personalities or loyalty, it's about telling the truth and not intentionally disrupting others freedoms, like Jones did in the OP... As to why he did it, only Jones knows. We all have our own ideas why.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Alex Jones is the Robert Tilton of the conspiracy world. ~Mister Clean Live free or You're trying to change the subject away from Alex Jones and his lack of accomplishments in fighting "tyranny," "the global elite," "the banking cartel," "the NWO" and whatever else he claims to be fighting.
What good has he done? If he really has "done sooo much good" it should be easy to demonstrate.
no, i'm not. i'm honestly interested to know how you define fighting tyranny and if there is anyone that you think is or has accomplished it.
I'm just here for the fellowship. Posting opinions here is not resisting, IMO. Posting articles is a form of resisting because we are exposing what the bastards are trying to hide. agreed. i enjoy the camaraderie of spending time with mostly likeminds. i also enjoy what i learn from intelligent, articulate, and educated both academically and real life experienced participants. oh, and i can't leave out the humor and wit.
Do you disagree with my statement that Alex Jones has accomplished nothing in his alleged fight against the things he claims to be fighting against? I don't buy into the idea that Americans are under some horrible tyranny.
you must be an IRS agent.
He's right, Americans are content. This is what they've always wanted. Sure, a few disagree, but not that many.
It's great to be you. I'm not sure how old you are, but this nation in the last 40 years has become decidedly less free. I mention this because I have no idea what time references we are working from.
Do you think Alex Jones has accomplished anything in the fight he claims to be waging? If a person doesn't pay their taxes they get in trouble. There's nothing tyrannical about that.
Have you written down all the things you could do 40 years ago that you can't do today? I'd love to see that list.
Its not Horrible, for most - YET. Sure going in that direction tho. Our "Public Servants" in Colorado Springs are the largest best paid best pensioned best medical benifited group in the city, other than the military officers, who appear to be the Pharohs of the Nation. But we are a peace loving nation. The Military Industrial, Medical Insurance, Political Complex has devoured this nation.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" What if a person has ethical objections to the way federal tax dollars are spent? Does America honor the citizen conscience? No. This is the land of the debtor's prison for tax evaders, no matter the reason. But few object. Few remember why we had our first revolution. That's long in the past. Can we call it "tyranny" if most welcome it? Just don't call it "liberty."
When taxes - from every source - becomes (+/-) 50% of one's salary - you're entering the realm of a tax slave. These taxes, BTW, increase regularly and outpace any wage increase the average man may receive.
Who is to decide who has a legitimate ethical objection and who is just trying to avoid taxes? Is there any nation on earth where each individual can decide to pay taxes based upon their conscience?
Lets start with having lost the freedom to demonstrate civilly without being herded into a free speech zone, only to be overtly filmed by some s'bag in an attempt to intimidate.
Like Tim Guitner(sp)? He got in trouble by becoming the Sec of Treasury. A looting, and I do mean that correctly LOOTING, the citizens of this foolish country of thousands of dollars from every taxpayer. Now GS is rewarding, with Tim's help, the corrupt criminal enterprise mojos with mulitiple million dollar payoffs. Yes. let's all support this system, we are being put on a plantation as surely as were the slave from Africa two hundred years ago.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" Maybe you need a better accountant.
Good start.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" Not in America, land of the "free." Obviously we're no different from any other conformist nations. We use force to secure the compliant behavior of our subjects, just like any other country. We'll put citizens under our orderly boot heels if they will not comply. And most want it that way.
He got in trouble by becoming the Sec of Treasury. He had to pay the back taxes and interest.
Not a good answer, big government shill. FAIL.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" I'm not talking about Federal taxes alone. Phoenix just instituted a 2% on food. Add that to all other 'hidden taxes' *plus* what the fed, state & local folks want and you're at or near 50%. It's about addition, not about a better accountant. How old are you again? You never did answer that question.
He got in trouble by becoming the Sec of Treasury. He had to pay the back taxes and interest. BOO HOO If my corporation games the system heavy penalties are involved, and it the Friqqing SOT doesn't know the fairly simple rules of houskeepers it shows he is fundamentally dishonest. He is an embaressment to the notion of fiscal integrity.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" Were the Tea Party demonstrators who went to D.C. last year herded into a free speech zone? The free speech zones are usually set up for events like IMF meetings and political conventions. People can still protest, that freedom has not been taken away. I recall that when Obama was elected, people in cities all over the US went out into the streets to celebrate... without permits and without being herded into speech zones. The people in the video at the top of this post were out on the street and not in some speech zone. What's second on your list?
So you're an anarchist? You want no government? If people can avoid paying taxes based on their conscience, then we will have anarchy. Is that what you want?
No they were not. Because they are deluded befuddled supporters of the US Status Quo, and the mindless worship of the militerism of the US. You are good with that no doubt, because you are prollly on the gravy train.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" You are approaching Neo Con Nuttery.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" I'm guessing they were penned in to an area designated by the PTB and filmed no doubt. If you have more to add, please present it. I was filmed at a local one and proudly gave whomever it was the bird. That didn't happen in the 60s, but how would you know? Want more kid? How about the way the Bush adm. used the Pentagon's military analysts in a campaign to generate favourable news coverage of the Administration's wartime performance, an examination discovered by The New York Times? Stalin would blush at the boldness of such raw political propaganda.
Phoenix just instituted a 2% on food. Add that to all other 'hidden taxes' *plus* what the fed, state & local folks want and you're at or near 50%. It's about addition, not about a better accountant. How old are you again? You never did answer that question. I would agree that taxes everywhere are too high but talk of being a tax slave is a bit over the top. I'm not interested in discussing personal details but I'm over 30 and under 65.
If people can avoid paying taxes based on their conscience, then we will have anarchy. Is that what you want? Some accountabily. The USG has just started a war in another nation in the last few weeks. Since the other two were going so well.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" Roger that.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" Because they are deluded befuddled supporters of the US Status Quo, and the mindless worship of the militerism of the US. In other words, they were able to exercise their rights to free speech and assembly and free association without being herded into a speech zone.
Mmmm, walnut pancakes!!!! You give yet, Tom?
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject. Tea Party protesters were all over DC and all over the national Mall. They were not herded into any zone. I'm still waiting to see what you can't do today that you could do 40 years ago.
He had to pay the back taxes which just proves my statement that if you don't pay your taxes you get in trouble.
You are correct. One can go into their closet, and close the closet door, and hold up a sign saying they do not support these endless wars for coporations for hours on end - that freedom has nor been taken away from them. You are a real Thomas Jefferson, MC. I think you could do well to apply as an internet enforcer in N Korea.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" You must have missed the antiwar rallies that took place all over the US, including large ones in NYC and DC protesting Bush's war on Iraq. They were outside, by the way. Just because you weren't paying attention doesn't mean they didn't happen.
if accomplishment is measured in making a whole lot of folks aware (for starters) of the two party fraud, the corruptness that exists in government, and the power/shadow behind the facade, then, i would say, yes.
They had a PERMIT and yes they were herded into a zone, specifically the zone granted by the PERMIT........some free speech and right to assemble.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
You want more? How about buying a gun w/o an anal exam? Boarding a plane w/o being molested. Speaking w/o fear of someone yelling "hate speech." I just told you I can't assemble peaceably w/o some govt. flack filming me in an attempt to intimidate. Hello? Anybody home??? I also told you the MSM was in the tank with the past Administration in an attempt to shape my opinion of their illegal, immoral wars. I seriously doubt that stopped since Obama was selected. These examples jump all over my right to live in a free society that isn't shaped by government interference. Grow a pair kid. This government has become empowered 100 fold thanks to sheeple such as yourself who defend it's intrusion into my life, but I expect such nonsense from a 30-something.
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#290. To: christine (#285)
define for me an accomplishment in fighting tyranny. give me the name(s) of someone you think has accomplished such.
#291. To: wakeup (#284)
I do happen to think his latest, Fall Of The Republic, is outstanding and he should be cut some slack just because he has done sooo much good.
#292. To: Mister Clean (#290)
#293. To: PSUSA (#289)
You do what you can, I do what I can, and so does everyone else. We all fight the beast in our own ways. Sometimes it's just not wise to divulge too much in a open forum like this one.
#294. To: christine (#292)
no, i'm not. i'm honestly interested to know how you define fighting tyranny and if there is anyone that you think is or has accomplished it.
#295. To: Mister Clean (#294)
I don't buy into the idea that Americans are under some horrible tyranny.
#296. To: christine (#295)
#297. To: Mister Clean (#294)
I don't buy into the idea that Americans are under some horrible tyranny.
#298. To: christine (#295)
you must be an IRS agent.
#299. To: Jethro Tull (#297)
It's great to be you. I'm not sure how old you are, but this nation in the last 40 years has become decidedly less free.
#300. To: christine (#295)
I don't buy into the idea that Americans are under some horrible tyranny.
#301. To: Mister Clean (#298)
If a person doesn't pay their taxes they get in trouble. There's nothing tyrannical about that.
#302. To: Mister Clean (#298)
If a person doesn't pay their taxes they get in trouble. There's nothing tyrannical about that.
#303. To: Deasy (#301)
What if a person has ethical objections to the way federal tax dollars are spent? Does America honor the citizen conscience? No. This is the land of the debtor's prison for tax evaders, no matter the reason.
#304. To: Mister Clean (#299)
Have you written down all the things you could do 40 years ago that you can't do today?
#305. To: Deasy (#301)
If a person doesn't pay their taxes they get in trouble.
#306. To: Jethro Tull (#302)
When taxes - from every source - becomes (+/-) 50% of one's salary - you're entering the realm of a tax slave. These taxes, BTW, increase regularly and outpace any wage increase the average man may receive.
#307. To: Jethro Tull (#304)
Lets start with having lost the freedom to demonstrate civilly without being herded into a free speech zone, only to be overtly filmed by some s'bag in an attempt to intimidate.
#308. To: Mister Clean (#303)
Is there any nation on earth where each individual can decide to pay taxes based upon their conscience?
#309. To: tom007 (#305)
Like Tim Guitner(sp)?
#310. To: Mister Clean (#306)
Maybe you need a better accountant.
#311. To: Mister Clean (#306)
#312. To: Mister Clean (#309)
Like Tim Guitner(sp)?
#313. To: Jethro Tull (#304)
Lets start with having lost the freedom to demonstrate civilly without being herded into a free speech zone, only to be overtly filmed by some s'bag in an attempt to intimidate.
#314. To: Deasy (#308)
Not in America, land of the "free." Obviously we're no different from any other conformist nations. We use force to secure the compliant behavior of our subjects, just like any other country. We'll put citizens under our orderly boot heels if they will not comply.
#315. To: Mister Clean (#313)
Were the Tea Party demonstrators who went to D.C. last year herded into a free speech zone?
#316. To: Mister Clean (#313)
Were the Tea Party demonstrators who went to D.C. last year herded into a free speech zone?
#317. To: Mister Clean (#313)
Were the Tea Party demonstrators who went to D.C. last year herded into a free speech zone?
#318. To: Jethro Tull (#311)
I'm not talking about Federal taxes alone.
#319. To: Mister Clean (#314)
So you're an anarchist? You want no government?
#320. To: Mister Clean (#318)
#321. To: tom007 (#315)
No they were not.
#322. To: tom007, Mister Clean (#316)
You are approaching Neo Con Nuttery.
#323. To: Jethro Tull (#317)
I'm guessing they were penned in to an area designated by the PTB and filmed no doubt. If you have more to add, please present it.
#324. To: tom007 (#312)
If my corporation games the system heavy penalties are involved, and it the Friqqing SOT doesn't know the fairly simple rules of houskeepers it shows he is fundamentally dishonest.
#325. To: Mister Clean (#313)
People can still protest, that freedom has not been taken away.
#326. To: tom007 (#325)
One can go into their closet, and close the closet door, and hold up a sign saying they do not support these endless wars for coporations for hours on end
#327. To: Mister Clean (#298)
Do you think Alex Jones has accomplished anything in the fight he claims to be waging?
#328. To: Mister Clean (#323)
Tea Party protesters were all over DC and all over the national Mall. They were not herded into any zone.
#329. To: Mister Clean (#323)
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