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Title: Alex Jones disrupts 2nd Amendment rally, divides protest
Source: YouTube
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT7BW2CaPUw
Published: Jan 25, 2010
Author: WACAustin
Post Date: 2010-01-27 09:58:48 by randge
Keywords: Alex Jones, guns shows, protest, Austin
Views: 4262
Comments: 390

Alex Jones Exposes... Alex Jones!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT7BW2CaPUw

Alex Jones Turns Peaceful Gun Rights Demonstration Into CHAOS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdJ4zhiB2s4

You Gotta Hard On for Me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWM17wiHhww

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Poster Comment:

I won't tax you with a lot of blabber & half-baked opinion. You all here are big folks and know the meaning of what you see.

Patience with the second video. There is a lot of lens time on the pavement, but it bears watching all the way through.

Most interested in your comments.

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#309. To: tom007 (#305)

Like Tim Guitner(sp)?

He got in trouble by becoming the Sec of Treasury.

He had to pay the back taxes and interest.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-04   21:15:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#310. To: Mister Clean (#306)

Maybe you need a better accountant.

Not a good answer, big government shill. FAIL.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2010-02-04   21:16:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#311. To: Mister Clean (#306)

I'm not talking about Federal taxes alone.

Phoenix just instituted a 2% on food. Add that to all other 'hidden taxes' *plus* what the fed, state & local folks want and you're at or near 50%. It's about addition, not about a better accountant.

How old are you again?

You never did answer that question.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-02-04   21:19:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#312. To: Mister Clean (#309)

Like Tim Guitner(sp)?

He got in trouble by becoming the Sec of Treasury.

He had to pay the back taxes and interest.

BOO HOO

If my corporation games the system heavy penalties are involved, and it the Friqqing SOT doesn't know the fairly simple rules of houskeepers it shows he is fundamentally dishonest.

He is an embaressment to the notion of fiscal integrity.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2010-02-04   21:19:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#313. To: Jethro Tull (#304)

Lets start with having lost the freedom to demonstrate civilly without being herded into a free speech zone, only to be overtly filmed by some s'bag in an attempt to intimidate.

Were the Tea Party demonstrators who went to D.C. last year herded into a free speech zone?

The free speech zones are usually set up for events like IMF meetings and political conventions. People can still protest, that freedom has not been taken away.

I recall that when Obama was elected, people in cities all over the US went out into the streets to celebrate... without permits and without being herded into speech zones.

The people in the video at the top of this post were out on the street and not in some speech zone.

What's second on your list?

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-04   21:20:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#314. To: Deasy (#308)

Not in America, land of the "free." Obviously we're no different from any other conformist nations. We use force to secure the compliant behavior of our subjects, just like any other country. We'll put citizens under our orderly boot heels if they will not comply.

So you're an anarchist? You want no government?

If people can avoid paying taxes based on their conscience, then we will have anarchy. Is that what you want?

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-04   21:22:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#315. To: Mister Clean (#313)

Were the Tea Party demonstrators who went to D.C. last year herded into a free speech zone?

No they were not.

Because they are deluded befuddled supporters of the US Status Quo, and the mindless worship of the militerism of the US.

You are good with that no doubt, because you are prollly on the gravy train.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2010-02-04   21:25:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#316. To: Mister Clean (#313)

Were the Tea Party demonstrators who went to D.C. last year herded into a free speech zone?

You are approaching Neo Con Nuttery.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2010-02-04   21:27:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#317. To: Mister Clean (#313)

Were the Tea Party demonstrators who went to D.C. last year herded into a free speech zone?

I'm guessing they were penned in to an area designated by the PTB and filmed no doubt. If you have more to add, please present it.

I was filmed at a local one and proudly gave whomever it was the bird. That didn't happen in the 60s, but how would you know?

Want more kid?

How about the way the Bush adm. used the Pentagon's military analysts in a campaign to generate favourable news coverage of the Administration's wartime performance, an examination discovered by The New York Times?

Stalin would blush at the boldness of such raw political propaganda.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-02-04   21:28:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#318. To: Jethro Tull (#311)

I'm not talking about Federal taxes alone.

Phoenix just instituted a 2% on food. Add that to all other 'hidden taxes' *plus* what the fed, state & local folks want and you're at or near 50%. It's about addition, not about a better accountant.

How old are you again?

You never did answer that question.

I would agree that taxes everywhere are too high but talk of being a tax slave is a bit over the top.

I'm not interested in discussing personal details but I'm over 30 and under 65.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-04   21:29:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#319. To: Mister Clean (#314)

So you're an anarchist? You want no government?

If people can avoid paying taxes based on their conscience, then we will have anarchy. Is that what you want?

Some accountabily.

The USG has just started a war in another nation in the last few weeks.

Since the other two were going so well.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2010-02-04   21:29:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#320. To: Mister Clean (#318)

Roger that.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2010-02-04   21:29:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#321. To: tom007 (#315)

No they were not.

Because they are deluded befuddled supporters of the US Status Quo, and the mindless worship of the militerism of the US.

In other words, they were able to exercise their rights to free speech and assembly and free association without being herded into a speech zone.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-04   21:30:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#322. To: tom007, Mister Clean (#316)

You are approaching Neo Con Nuttery.

Mmmm, walnut pancakes!!!!

You give yet, Tom?

In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.

Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.

Dakmar  posted on  2010-02-04   21:30:48 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#323. To: Jethro Tull (#317)

I'm guessing they were penned in to an area designated by the PTB and filmed no doubt. If you have more to add, please present it.

Tea Party protesters were all over DC and all over the national Mall. They were not herded into any zone.

I'm still waiting to see what you can't do today that you could do 40 years ago.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-04   21:32:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#324. To: tom007 (#312)

If my corporation games the system heavy penalties are involved, and it the Friqqing SOT doesn't know the fairly simple rules of houskeepers it shows he is fundamentally dishonest.

He had to pay the back taxes which just proves my statement that if you don't pay your taxes you get in trouble.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-04   21:36:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#325. To: Mister Clean (#313)

People can still protest, that freedom has not been taken away.

You are correct.

One can go into their closet, and close the closet door, and hold up a sign saying they do not support these endless wars for coporations for hours on end - that freedom has nor been taken away from them.

You are a real Thomas Jefferson, MC.

I think you could do well to apply as an internet enforcer in N Korea.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2010-02-04   21:39:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#326. To: tom007 (#325)

One can go into their closet, and close the closet door, and hold up a sign saying they do not support these endless wars for coporations for hours on end

You must have missed the antiwar rallies that took place all over the US, including large ones in NYC and DC protesting Bush's war on Iraq. They were outside, by the way.

Just because you weren't paying attention doesn't mean they didn't happen.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-04   21:42:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#327. To: Mister Clean (#298)

Do you think Alex Jones has accomplished anything in the fight he claims to be waging?

if accomplishment is measured in making a whole lot of folks aware (for starters) of the two party fraud, the corruptness that exists in government, and the power/shadow behind the facade, then, i would say, yes.

christine  posted on  2010-02-04   21:43:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#328. To: Mister Clean (#323)

Tea Party protesters were all over DC and all over the national Mall. They were not herded into any zone.

They had a PERMIT and yes they were herded into a zone, specifically the zone granted by the PERMIT........some free speech and right to assemble.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-04   21:43:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#329. To: Mister Clean (#323)

You want more?

How about buying a gun w/o an anal exam?

Boarding a plane w/o being molested.

Speaking w/o fear of someone yelling "hate speech."

I just told you I can't assemble peaceably w/o some govt. flack filming me in an attempt to intimidate. Hello? Anybody home???

I also told you the MSM was in the tank with the past Administration in an attempt to shape my opinion of their illegal, immoral wars. I seriously doubt that stopped since Obama was selected.

These examples jump all over my right to live in a free society that isn't shaped by government interference.

Grow a pair kid. This government has become empowered 100 fold thanks to sheeple such as yourself who defend it's intrusion into my life, but I expect such nonsense from a 30-something.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-02-04   21:47:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#330. To: christine (#327)

if accomplishment is measured in making a whole lot of folks aware (for starters) of the two party fraud, the corruptness that exists in government, and the power/shadow behind the facade, then, i would say, yes.

And the result of this supposed increase in awareness is....? Nothing.

You realize there is no way to measure how many people Alex Jones has allegedly made aware of the "two party fraud" but judging by the fact that the two party system is still intact, I'd say the number is most likely quite small.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-04   21:49:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#331. To: Mister Clean (#294)

"I don't buy into the idea that Americans are under some horrible tyranny."

We blame folks like you for allowing it to continue.

"Hey buddy, what do you think about the apathy and ignorance most folks express when asked about corruption in government?"

"Well, I don't know about it so, I don't care about it."

OneDollarDVDProject.com

wakeup  posted on  2010-02-04   21:52:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#332. To: abraxas (#328)

They had a PERMIT and yes they were herded into a zone, specifically the zone granted by the PERMIT........some free speech and right to assemble.

Nobody herded them, they walked through the streets and took the Metro on their own. They gathered on the Mall because having a protest in the ghettos of Southeast DC wouldn't have worked out so well.

I'm talking about the 9/12 event. They assembled, they spoke. Nobody was shot. I don't think anyone was even arrested.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-04   21:53:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#333. To: christine (#295)

you must be an IRS agent.

Or, he hasn't had them at the front door, yet.

What is that famous quote... you don't see tyranny until you resist it.

OneDollarDVDProject.com

wakeup  posted on  2010-02-04   21:56:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#334. To: Jethro Tull (#329)

How about buying a gun w/o an anal exam?

If you received an anal exam when trying to buy a gun you should move to a different state.  

Boarding a plane w/o being molested.

I've never been "molested" when going through airport security.  You are resorting to hyperbole in an attempt to make a point which tells me your argument is weak.

Speaking w/o fear of someone yelling "hate speech."

If you're afraid to speak that's your choice, not a loss of freedom.  If you don't see the difference your're hopless.

I just told you I can't assemble peaceably w/o some govt. flack filming me in an attempt to intimidate. Hello? Anybody home???

I told you that tens of thousands of people did assemble peacefully in DC last year and they obviously weren't intimidated nor did they give a shit about being videotaped.  You sound like a whiner.

I also told you the MSM was in the tank with the past Administration in an attempt to shape my opinion of their illegal, immoral wars. I seriously doubt that stopped since Obama was selected.

That's not a loss of freedom.  

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-04   21:59:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#335. To: Mister Clean (#332) (Edited)

I'm always suspicious of so called conservatives who insist on arguing episodic minutia to derail 4um posters from talking and becoming friends.

In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.

Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.

Dakmar  posted on  2010-02-04   21:59:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#336. To: wakeup (#331)

We blame folks like you for allowing it to continue.

Can you list the accomplishments that Alex Jones has achieved in the fight against tyranny?

Waking people up doesn't matter unless it's yielded some concrete results.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-04   22:00:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#337. To: christine (#335)

Can you change my login name to "episodic minutia"?

In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.

Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.

Dakmar  posted on  2010-02-04   22:02:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#338. To: Dakmar, christine (#337)

Can you change my login name to "episodic minutia"?

I'm sure that'd be no problem, but you'll always be "Little Dakkie Honey Bunny" to us.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2010-02-04   22:09:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#339. To: Esso (#338)

Reminds me of a story told by the ancient egyptians:

Eye, bird, boat, sun, bird, bird...

In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.

Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.

Dakmar  posted on  2010-02-04   22:12:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#340. To: Mister Clean (#334)

Adios pant load. Life is too short.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-02-04   22:14:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#341. To: Mister Clean (#299)

Have you written down all the things you could do 40 years ago that you can't do today?

I'd love to see that list.

Forty years ago, I could buy four gallons of gas for a dollar bill or, a silver dollar. They were the same to me, four quarters, a dollar or a silver dollar... all the same. A dollar was close to an ounce of silver.

Today, it takes ten or twelve of those pieces of paper to do that, yet, the silver dollar will still get me those four gallons. Somehow, someone made my paper money less valuable than it was. In order for them to do that, the backing by gold and silver had to be dropped and allowing bills to be printed up without the precious asset to back it. Who had the power to pull such a scam? Who benefitted all these years slowly devaluing the paper we call money? Tyrants. Who suffers? We do.

Therefore, all of us have suffered under tyranny. Some see it and some don't. Acknowledged or not, it is there.

OneDollarDVDProject.com

wakeup  posted on  2010-02-04   22:15:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#342. To: Dakmar (#339)

Now that's funny. I'll bet at least 1-in- 100,000 Uhhmerkkins is clever enough to figure that out.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2010-02-04   22:17:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#343. To: Jethro Tull (#340)

Life is too short.

Get back to me when you can actually list all the things you can't do today that you could do 40 years ago.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-04   22:17:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#344. To: Jethro Tull, Mr Clean (#340)

Adios pant load. Life is too short.

Anchors away clean, adios MFer

Show Me Obama's Birth Certificate!

Flintlock  posted on  2010-02-04   22:18:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#345. To: christine (#327)

if accomplishment is measured in making a whole lot of folks aware (for starters) of the two party fraud, the corruptness that exists in government, and the power/shadow behind the facade, then, i would say, yes.

Yes

One by One.

A LOT of folks I deal with Know somethings wrong.

A Lot.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2010-02-04   22:18:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#346. To: Esso (#342)

I'll bet at least 1-in- 100,000 Uhhmerkkins is clever enough to figure that out.

I'm too lazy to undertake any of this, but damnit it DOES look so easy to start a cult and get rich, is it possible even quiet desperation athiests will finally master psych101 parlour tricks and oust the really, really, really fucking retarded?

In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.

Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.

Dakmar  posted on  2010-02-04   22:22:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#347. To: Mister Clean (#343) (Edited)

Get back to me when you can actually list all the things you can't do today that you could do 40 years ago.

How about 45 years?
____________________

Buy a gun mail order

Live in a wetback free society

Walk in any neighborhood at any time of day

Speak English in Miami and LA

Not be involved in a meaningless foreign war

Only need one person to work to support a family

Drive without insurance (if you wanted to)

That's just for starters!

Show Me Obama's Birth Certificate!

Flintlock  posted on  2010-02-04   22:23:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#348. To: wakeup (#341)

Somehow, someone made my paper money less valuable than it was. In order for them to do that, the backing by gold and silver had to be dropped and allowing bills to be printed up without the precious asset to back it. Who had the power to pull such a scam? Who benefitted all these years slowly devaluing the paper we call money? Tyrants. Who suffers? We do.

I could argue that devaluation is the destiny of every fiat currency but that's not because of tyranny.

You're not being oppressed because you can't buy 4 gallons of milk with a dollar bill.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-04   22:26:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#349. To: Mister Clean (#348) (Edited)

You're not being oppressed because you can't buy 4 gallons of milk with a dollar bill.

Wow, you milked that one for all it was worth, chum! Can I get a WHODAT?

In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.

Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.

Dakmar  posted on  2010-02-04   22:28:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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