so you're convinced it's not ego. he's doing what he's told to do. Deborah and i are chatting on skype about this right now. we both find this heartbreaking. i also have alex on right now because i want to see if he addresses it.
OK the second video has been fixed now. I do not know if I mentioned it before but about one minute and ten seconds into the second video you can see Alex Jones showing a nasty hypocritical side of himself.
The rally was organized by the We Are Change Austin people. Alex Jones was invited but declined the invitation. Then he decided to show up all cowboy like and disrupt their rally. The rally was about gun rights, gun shows, and person to person private transactions of gun sales. This would include, but is not limited to, buying a gun for a family member as a birthday or Christmas gift.
The rally went on despite Alex Jones attempt to disrupt it. However, to anyone on the street who might of been passing by they may of seen it and thought that it was just another "Alex Jones" thing. If they had the ear of any of the police they may of lost it with when Alex Jones put his nose into their business.
In the video you can see that they invited him up to the front but he did not accept that invitation. In the last video when Alex Jones is condescending the protesters you can see at the end of it after he is done condescending them he turns to the rest of the crowd and commends them for showing up making it appear as though he himself had something to do with it all as though he were the organizer. Very manipulative IMHO
WACAustin links. www.youtube.com... Follow the link and click on his channel to watch more on the protest. Before you ask, no I am not affiliated with WACAustin. It was their protest and if you want to see the whole ting they have it there minus a few Alex Jones clips which have now moved to other peoples channels.
[11:13:45 AM] Debbie: john said that the police noticed that there was a division at the rally as well [11:13:51 AM] Debbie: and were commenting about it to john & catherine [11:13:58 AM] Debbie: SEE??? [11:14:04 AM] Debbie: the ptb can see that we are divided [11:14:07 AM] Debbie: this is horrible
so you're convinced it's not ego. he's doing what he's told to do.
I tend to look at things from a neutral position, and in viewing what he did, how he did it, and to who he did it to, is all I need to see.
If he were the person he's made himself out to be, he never would have disrupted a rally which represented the very things he's supposed to be for.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
Listening to John and Catherine this morning, I was impressed with the way they handled the situation. Clearly they were upset with AJ's classless behavior in disrupting the rally that TAG had planned, permitted, and promoted.
They kept to the high road throughout the program.
For a long time I've been telling you Alex Jones followers, you sheeple who take him seriously, that your hero was fraud and a clown.
Thing is, you were telling people that when he WAS relating actual news and information which needed to be said, and ridiculing his message.
The problem with Alex Jones is that he is where he is in order to make those issues appear to be NUTTY, since HE'S the one reporting them and "fighting tyranny".
So you may have been right in terms of him being a fraud, but the REASONS you were calling him that was because of some of the things he said which were RIGHT.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
Like I said, he puts out some good, or at least thought inducing/interesting stuff, but he puts out about as much misinformation, and the reasons for that are not completely clear.
It's to discredit the VALID information he puts out.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
I started out to write an article about an ominous attack on Second Amendment rights which took place here in Austin recently, but on viewing videos of the subsequent protest at city hall as part of my research I got sidetracked with more overwhelming evidence that Alex Jones is a narcissistic douchebag and really no friend of liberty, facts which I have observed before but which just become clearer with each new incident.
Earnest and passionate local advocates for individual liberty led by John Bush of Texans for Accountable Government organized a peaceful protest rally on Monday afternoon in opposition to the Austin Police Department's involvement with the BATF in attempts to illegally shut down private gun sales at gun shows in Austin. They had a good turnout and a schedule of speakers including Darwin Bedecker, who was the most recent target of this persecution campaign, and notable local liberty advocates like Jerri Lynn Ward and Catherine Bleish. It was organized on short notice, but it was a well-planned and effective rally presenting a legitimate grievance to the city government with a permit and everything.
Then, in the middle of it all, Alex Jones shows up with a bullhorn and what can only be described as a gang of thugs, and proceeds to disrupt the entire rally, shouting over the speakers, shutting down the program, and ultimately driving off most of the participants with his obnoxious antics. Not only that, but Jones was rude to everyone, including those who tried to invite him to become a program participant, called Catherine Bleish a "cointelpro" agent provocateur and ranted on and on about the NWO and various issues completely unrelated to the purpose of the protest, while surrounded by his personal videographers and thuglike followers.
Apparently Jones is incapable of allowing a protest to go on where he isn't the center of attention, and in order to get that attention he is willing to undermine the effectiveness of the protest, offend potential sympathizers and generally behave like a penis with legs. It's not surprising that by the end of the event people were accusing Jones of working for the statists to discredit legitimate protesters, and a lot of people came away from the event cured of any prior attraction to Jones' particular brand of anti-government paranoia. As I've said before, Jones is his own worst enemy and he lost a lot of supporters Monday because of his boorish behavior and an attitude which was widely described as "divisive."
Jones clearly has Narcissistic Personality Disorder and has all the earmarks of a little Hitler in the making and that type doesn't like to be left on the sidelines. He has the "rule or ruin" attitude where if he's not in charge and doesn't have all eyes focused on him then he will cause chaos and destruction and to hell with everyone else and the important issue which they may have been protesting. For Jones the cause of liberty and the truth are secondary. His goal is self-promotion and probably personal profit as well. Jones can't just cover a story or add his voice to protesting an issue, because he has to be the story and he has to define the protest or it is of no value to him.
For more video of this event taken by Catherine Bleish see here and here.
#36. To: PSUSA, randge, TommyTheMadArtist, farmfriend, christine, ratcat, CadetD, all (#4)
Our "leaders" know that a certain segment will see thru their BS. Those people still need to be contained. Jones contains them. He does that by telling some truth to gather extremely loyal followers. But when a reaction is desired from his followers, he lies, he disrupts, he makes his followers look like fools by spreading his bad information. We get lumped in with his followers and that decreases OUR effectiveness. It's quite brilliant.
That is the function of a disinformation outlet. To tell the truth almost all of the time while misleading, intentionally drawing wrong conclusions, and omitting vital data. And that is the pattern that Jones is falling into. Limbaugh is a master of the art - which is why he is paid more than his program makes in advertising revenue.
Jones is falling into a pattern (just as Limbaugh did) and it is a repetition of the same old tactics.
First build an audience through telling the audience the truth and what they want to hear (while being careful not to reveal any of the insider data that they don't already have). That is one of the keys to unlocking the Jones puzzle - while he does introduce some apparently new data he does not introduce much if anything that elements of his audience did not already know.
Blunt the effectiveness of the opposition by becoming a "leader" and then use the positional authority to control and lead the opposition into ineffective or less effective avenues. Another of his PsyOp tactics is to bloviate endlessly on the NWO, get people agitated and strung out on edge, and use that to exhaust their nervous energy. I've noticed that listening to Jones on a regular basis, which I did for about 6 months until I began to understand his schtick, tends to leave a person continually agitated and a lower tone thus inactive.
Another is to speak in generalities when describing the players - for Limbaugh it is "the liberals" and for Jones it is the "New World Order". All have names, and while Jones will occasionally mention the Rothschilds and Rockefellers he does not clearly point the arrows back to them illustrating how they run the operation. Jones is a holding agent - holding people in check and getting them to spend their energies on useless pyrotechnics rather than building effective organizations in opposition. Which brings us to "advocate ineffective means of opposing" them and attack anyone who does. Notice how the "We are Change" movement was effectively gelded by first associating himself with the leaders of it and then after having it tightly associated with himself then de-emphasizing it. Jones is right about one thing, another of those self evident truths that he trumpets as though it was an original insight, that we are in an information war. The problem is that he is on the other side.
The connections are very tenuous as he operates in deep cover, has to for his function, but the little snippets are accumulating - his sharing of an attorney with the Bronfmans being one, and his syndicator for his Sunday Shoe another. He is a tool of the same people who control the Zionists (and again only the top levels of Zionism know the true game and the rest of the schmucks are being taken for a little ride).
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Jones clearly has Narcissistic Personality Disorder and has all the earmarks of a little Hitler in the making and that type doesn't like to be left on the sidelines. He has the "rule or ruin" attitude where if he's not in charge and doesn't have all eyes focused on him then he will cause chaos and destruction and to hell with everyone else and the important issue which they may have been protesting.
Thus his attack on Jeff Rense and getting Rense, who has a huge audience which was coming close to rivaling Alex's, and having him kicked off of Genesis before he did have an equal or larger audience thus pre-empting Alex's leverage over Ted and his indirect control of Genesis and what it broadcasts. Although he may well be a narcissist I suspect the motivation was more a matter of Rense actually being a purveyor of the truth which conflicted with Alex's disinformation operation.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#40. To: christine, randge, TwentTwelve, all (#35)
I think this barging in actually suggests something else - despite Jones the Liberty Movement is growing in directions not under the NWO control umbrella. As Jones is marginalized he loses effectiveness as an agent, and as the movement grows without an agent at the helm it becomes less controllable. Conclusion: Jone's bosses are getting a little concerned over the loss of control.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
i heard this as it was going on. my friend Deborah Stevens was broadcasting it live on her network. you could hear AJ bullhorning in the background and several of the folks who were interviewed by Katie, representing RuleofLawRadio, were expressing their disgust with his rudeness.
#43. To: christine, randge, TwentTwelve, all (#41)
I suspect that Jones was there specifically to disrupt the event.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
"Jones clearly has Narcissistic Personality Disorder and has all the earmarks of a little Hitler in the making"
Totally off the subject, but of interest to those that understand the degree of programming that has been accomplished on Americans.
Tell me how often, if ever, you have seen the following in comparison to the above authors quote????
Jones clearly has Narcissistic Personality Disorder and has all the earmarks of a little... Stalin... in the making
Good point. I suspect that is mainly because the evil represented by Hitler is more prominent and thus is more readily grabbed for a metaphor. It is true that Stalin was far worse than Hitler - but connecting to Stalin is not allowed in the media, as Hitler has been planted in our common popular culture. Stalin is not given the same emphasis, even though his dead body count dwarfs Hitler's because that leads back to "the Chosen". It puts them in a bad light as much of Stalin's Secret Police Apparatus was manned by Jews whom we all know are Sainted and Chosen and so we have to talk about the evil Hitler who persecuted the Chosen.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Not only that, but Jones was rude to everyone, including those who tried to invite him to become a program participant, called Catherine Bleish a "cointelpro" agent provocateur and ranted on and on about the NWO and various issues completely unrelated to the purpose of the protest, while surrounded by his personal videographers and thuglike followers.
Seems like Jones is using the tactic of accusing his victim of what he is guilty of.
Gee whiz, like we've never seen that anywhere else...
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#47. To: Original_Intent, christine, randge, TwentTwelve (#40)
I think this barging in actually suggests something else - despite Jones the Liberty Movement is growing in directions not under the NWO control umbrella. As Jones is marginalized he loses effectiveness as an agent, and as the movement grows without an agent at the helm it becomes less controllable. Conclusion: Jone's bosses are getting a little concerned over the loss of control.
Alex and his handlers apparently overlooked the fact that YouTube is WAY more popular than his website, and that he doesn't control what goes on there.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
I especially see the 2nd tactic as being more obvious. You cant be alert 24/7.
The connections are very tenuous as he operates in deep cover, has to for his function, but the little snippets are accumulating
I'm not sure his cover is that deep. And some of those little snippets are rather large. But it takes time and effort to dig things up. Sometimes all it takes is to read a bill he is bitching about to see he lied. Other times its how he words articles on his site. He likes to use trigger words and phrases like he did here: http://surrealworld.wordpress.com/2009/03/27/has-alex-jones-gone-off-the-deep-end/
He is a tool of the same people who control the Zionists (and again only the top levels of Zionism know the true game and the rest of the schmucks are being taken for a little ride).
I think he is aware of what he's doing. I think he is many things, but he isn't stupid. You don't pull a stunt, like he did at that demonstration, on a whim. It was deliberate. It had to have been.
I especially see the 2nd tactic as being more obvious. You cant be alert 24/7.
Thanks for the kind words. Yes, that was the one that first got me to wondering about him. It was a little too much, laid on just a little too thick. The issues he covers are ones we all need be concerned about, but it is the manner in which he does. And as you say you can't be on alert 24/7 - all that does is lead to exhaustion. Which of course is what he is doing.
I think he is aware of what he's doing. I think he is many things, but he isn't stupid. You don't pull a stunt, like he did at that demonstration, on a whim. It was deliberate. It had to have been.
Agreed. Here, I think the conclusion stands out better than in some other instances. Here, his antics display what he was actually doing i.e., disrupting.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#52. To: FormerLurker, christine, randge, TwentTwelve, all (#47)
Alex and his handlers apparently overlooked the fact that YouTube is WAY more popular than his website, and that he doesn't control what goes on there.
Well, they control YouToob as well, but they are kind of trapped on it as the more censorship they use to try to control the message the more obvious the censorship becomes. Most people are still blithely unaware of the sheer massive volume of the control messages going out and being used. It is on a scale that, because of their programming, boggles them into disbelief and thus not seeing it. I know when I first got interested in the subject that I was becoming aware of the control, but it has taken me the better part of ten years to really get how massive and pervasive it is at all levels of mass communications.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
I'll have to download it while I am out. Being on dial-up is becoming increasingly annoying.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Thing is about YouTube is that either they knew well in advance that they'd lose control of it, and set it up just in order to identify "troublemakers", or were totally blind to what it could evolve to.
I think the former is more probable than the latter.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
I think the former is more probable than the latter.
Ditto. Contrary to the image that is attempted to be portrayed of them, the Fu Manchu evil genius image, they actually have made a lot of mistakes but by controlling the media if it is never reported it never happened. The Internet itself was the first real big mistake in information control. When it was still a closed network, ARPANET, the conversation was kept controlled as all of the users were government employees one way or another and were protective of their "Rice Bowl". Therefore I think they had a false image, and estimation, of what the Internet would become, and didn't think it would become as widespread as it has. In the early years it was just geeks because you had to know at least some UNIX to access much. With the advent of Browsers though it opened the door to people who really know little about computers. Thus what was expected to be a vehicle of commerce and control went out of control and thus the subsequent attempts to set up the controlled Internet II etc., ....
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Um, OI, by former I meant the original premise, not the 2nd one.
Since people need to sign up with email addresses on YouTube, and it IS in fact a government affiliated site (via Google ownership), I'd say they are more than likely VERY curious as to who is posting what, and it provides them with names and addresses.
I hope it's more of what you say, pure stupidity on their part, but I wouldn't be so sure...
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
My bad. Actually, when I think about it, we could both be right. Google is of course CIA (which is why I don't use it and don't trust the search results to be complete even when I use Scroogle).
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
In the first video, observe the guy in the blue shirt walking behind Jones at 2:23 into the video. At 2:28 he breaks left from Jone's entourage and heads discreetly into the crowd.
FBI?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
a guy just called alex and thanked him for organizing the event yesterday and alex didn't give tribute to the real organizers. his only comment was that it was wonderful the number of people who showed up. that call gave him the opportunity to set the record straight and to apologize. the fact that he didn't says it all. :/
a guy just called alex and thanked him for organizing the event yesterday and alex didn't give tribute to the real organizers. his only comment was that it was wonderful the number of people who showed up. that call gave him the opportunity to set the record straight and to apologize. the fact that he didn't says it all. :/
He blew his cover - big time. He's probably scrambling to figure a way out.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
So you may have been right in terms of him being a fraud, but the REASONS you were calling him that was because of some of the things he said which were RIGHT.
One of the reasons I called him a fraud is because, like the phony televangelist who exploits religion to make money, Alex Jones exploits conspiracy theories to make money.
Even a televangelist may say things that are "right" in the context of the religion they're exploiting but he is still a total fraud at his core. Alex Jones is exactly the same.
I commend you for at least recognizing that I was correct in my assesment of Alex Jones.