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Title: Alex Jones disrupts 2nd Amendment rally, divides protest
Source: YouTube
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT7BW2CaPUw
Published: Jan 25, 2010
Author: WACAustin
Post Date: 2010-01-27 09:58:48 by randge
Keywords: Alex Jones, guns shows, protest, Austin
Views: 4412
Comments: 390

Alex Jones Exposes... Alex Jones!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT7BW2CaPUw

Alex Jones Turns Peaceful Gun Rights Demonstration Into CHAOS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdJ4zhiB2s4

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#46. To: Original_Intent (#44)

as Hitler has been planted in our common popular culture.

Yes Sir...

Planted and nurtured for nearly 80 years.

That is such subtle programming that few understand that...they...are programmed.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-01-27   13:36:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Original_Intent, christine, randge, TwentTwelve (#40)

I think this barging in actually suggests something else - despite Jones the Liberty Movement is growing in directions not under the NWO control umbrella. As Jones is marginalized he loses effectiveness as an agent, and as the movement grows without an agent at the helm it becomes less controllable. Conclusion: Jone's bosses are getting a little concerned over the loss of control.

Alex and his handlers apparently overlooked the fact that YouTube is WAY more popular than his website, and that he doesn't control what goes on there.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-01-27   13:36:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Cynicom (#42)

Jones clearly has Narcissistic Personality Disorder and has all the earmarks of a little... Stalin... in the making

good observation, Cyni. i don't think i've ever seen that.

christine  posted on  2010-01-27   13:37:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Original_Intent (#36)

Good post!

I especially see the 2nd tactic as being more obvious. You cant be alert 24/7.

The connections are very tenuous as he operates in deep cover, has to for his function, but the little snippets are accumulating

I'm not sure his cover is that deep. And some of those little snippets are rather large. But it takes time and effort to dig things up. Sometimes all it takes is to read a bill he is bitching about to see he lied. Other times its how he words articles on his site. He likes to use trigger words and phrases like he did here: http://surrealworld.wordpress.com/2009/03/27/has-alex-jones-gone-off-the-deep-end/

He is a tool of the same people who control the Zionists (and again only the top levels of Zionism know the true game and the rest of the schmucks are being taken for a little ride).

I think he is aware of what he's doing. I think he is many things, but he isn't stupid. You don't pull a stunt, like he did at that demonstration, on a whim. It was deliberate. It had to have been.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-01-27   13:39:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: All (#32)

John and Catherine's discussion of the event is really worth listening to. They begin at 28 mins.

christine  posted on  2010-01-27   13:43:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: PSUSA (#49)

I especially see the 2nd tactic as being more obvious. You cant be alert 24/7.

Thanks for the kind words. Yes, that was the one that first got me to wondering about him. It was a little too much, laid on just a little too thick. The issues he covers are ones we all need be concerned about, but it is the manner in which he does. And as you say you can't be on alert 24/7 - all that does is lead to exhaustion. Which of course is what he is doing.

I think he is aware of what he's doing. I think he is many things, but he isn't stupid. You don't pull a stunt, like he did at that demonstration, on a whim. It was deliberate. It had to have been.

Agreed. Here, I think the conclusion stands out better than in some other instances. Here, his antics display what he was actually doing i.e., disrupting.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-01-27   13:54:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: FormerLurker, christine, randge, TwentTwelve, all (#47)

Alex and his handlers apparently overlooked the fact that YouTube is WAY more popular than his website, and that he doesn't control what goes on there.

Well, they control YouToob as well, but they are kind of trapped on it as the more censorship they use to try to control the message the more obvious the censorship becomes. Most people are still blithely unaware of the sheer massive volume of the control messages going out and being used. It is on a scale that, because of their programming, boggles them into disbelief and thus not seeing it. I know when I first got interested in the subject that I was becoming aware of the control, but it has taken me the better part of ten years to really get how massive and pervasive it is at all levels of mass communications.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-01-27   13:59:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: christine (#50)

I'll have to download it while I am out. Being on dial-up is becoming increasingly annoying.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-01-27   14:01:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Original_Intent (#52)

Thing is about YouTube is that either they knew well in advance that they'd lose control of it, and set it up just in order to identify "troublemakers", or were totally blind to what it could evolve to.

I think the former is more probable than the latter.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-01-27   14:04:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: FormerLurker (#54)

I think the former is more probable than the latter.

Ditto. Contrary to the image that is attempted to be portrayed of them, the Fu Manchu evil genius image, they actually have made a lot of mistakes but by controlling the media if it is never reported it never happened. The Internet itself was the first real big mistake in information control. When it was still a closed network, ARPANET, the conversation was kept controlled as all of the users were government employees one way or another and were protective of their "Rice Bowl". Therefore I think they had a false image, and estimation, of what the Internet would become, and didn't think it would become as widespread as it has. In the early years it was just geeks because you had to know at least some UNIX to access much. With the advent of Browsers though it opened the door to people who really know little about computers. Thus what was expected to be a vehicle of commerce and control went out of control and thus the subsequent attempts to set up the controlled Internet II etc., ....

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-01-27   14:23:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: christine (#32)

Here's the archive of Rise Up Radio with John and Catherine this morning:

[11:21:47 AM] Debbie: http://mp3.ruleoflawradio.com/RUR/128k/RUR_2010-01- 27_128k.mp3

Thanks for posting this.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2010-01-27   14:25:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Original_Intent (#55)

Um, OI, by former I meant the original premise, not the 2nd one.

Since people need to sign up with email addresses on YouTube, and it IS in fact a government affiliated site (via Google ownership), I'd say they are more than likely VERY curious as to who is posting what, and it provides them with names and addresses.

I hope it's more of what you say, pure stupidity on their part, but I wouldn't be so sure...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-01-27   14:31:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: FormerLurker (#57)

My bad. Actually, when I think about it, we could both be right. Google is of course CIA (which is why I don't use it and don't trust the search results to be complete even when I use Scroogle).

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-01-27   14:38:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: randge, Original_Intent, christine (#0)

In the first video, observe the guy in the blue shirt walking behind Jones at 2:23 into the video. At 2:28 he breaks left from Jone's entourage and heads discreetly into the crowd.

FBI?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-01-27   15:08:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: ugh (#59)

a guy just called alex and thanked him for organizing the event yesterday and alex didn't give tribute to the real organizers. his only comment was that it was wonderful the number of people who showed up. that call gave him the opportunity to set the record straight and to apologize. the fact that he didn't says it all. :/

christine  posted on  2010-01-27   15:14:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: christine. ugh (#60)

Not good news, C, not good even a little bit.

Lod  posted on  2010-01-27   15:18:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: christine, ratcat (#60)

a guy just called alex and thanked him for organizing the event yesterday and alex didn't give tribute to the real organizers. his only comment was that it was wonderful the number of people who showed up. that call gave him the opportunity to set the record straight and to apologize. the fact that he didn't says it all. :/

He blew his cover - big time. He's probably scrambling to figure a way out.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-01-27   15:23:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Lod (#61)

Operatives with an agenda...are always on the 'right' as in conservative.

That should speak volumes to Americans. It is NOT by coincidence that leftwing owners of the media pay millions to Limburg and his likes.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-01-27   15:27:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Original_Intent (#62)

He blew his cover - big time.

His owners are not going to be happy.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-01-27   15:29:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: FormerLurker (#33)

So you may have been right in terms of him being a fraud, but the REASONS you were calling him that was because of some of the things he said which were RIGHT.

One of the reasons I called him a fraud is because, like the phony televangelist who exploits religion to make money, Alex Jones exploits conspiracy theories to make money.

Even a televangelist may say things that are "right" in the context of the religion they're exploiting but he is still a total fraud at his core. Alex Jones is exactly the same.

I commend you for at least recognizing that I was correct in my assesment of Alex Jones.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-01-27   15:31:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Cynicom, Original_Intent (#64)

He blew his cover - big time.

His owners are not going to be happy.

What is going to happen next IYO?

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2010-01-27   15:32:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: TwentyTwelve, Cynicom (#66)

He blew his cover - big time.

His owners are not going to be happy.

What is going to happen next IYO?

Likely he'll try to act as though it reveals nothing, he won't mention it, and if some callers bring it up he'll cut them off and then go on a rant about how "everybody's out to get him". Notice that everytime the Mahajunkie has a bad call that somehow makes it through the screen that he'll spend the next half hour deriding the caller etc., "filthy lib'rul" (even if they were a true conservative).

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-01-27   15:39:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Cynicom (#63)

Gotta keep the faux left/right paradigm thing going on, whatever the cost.

Lod  posted on  2010-01-27   15:41:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: FormerLurker randge, christine (#59)

In the first video, observe the guy in the blue shirt walking behind Jones at 2:23 into the video. At 2:28 he breaks left from Jone's entourage and heads discreetly into the crowd.

FBI?

Possibly - or someone from some agency buried on the inside of the inside of some alphabet soup agency.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-01-27   15:42:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Original_Intent, Cynicom (#67)

He blew his cover - big time.

His owners are not going to be happy.

What is going to happen next IYO?

Likely he'll try to act as though it reveals nothing, he won't mention it, and if some callers bring it up he'll cut them off and then go on a rant about how "everybody's out to get him".

Typical AJ maneuver.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2010-01-27   15:43:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: TwentyTwelve (#70)

Yeah, pretty standard. He can't admit anything and has to try and cover for the mistake.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-01-27   15:44:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Lod, Cynicom (#68)

Gotta keep the faux left/right paradigm thing going on, whatever the cost.

Without the left/right paradigm the NWO/Elite will collapse.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2010-01-27   15:45:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: TwentyTwelve (#72)

Gotta have that "Good Cop" - "Bad Cop". Which is which simply changes with the issue and the audience.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-01-27   15:47:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: christine, Original_Intent, TwentyTwelve (#60)

a guy just called alex and thanked him for organizing the event yesterday and alex didn't give tribute to the real organizers. his only comment was that it was wonderful the number of people who showed up. that call gave him the opportunity to set the record straight and to apologize. the fact that he didn't says it all. :/

Well that pretty much seals it then.

One other interesting point is that he's apparently launched his army of disciples onto these YouTube videos, siding with him and blasting the actual organizers as "posers".


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-01-27   15:55:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: TwentyTwelve, Original_Intent, Cynicom (#70)

Likely he'll try to act as though it reveals nothing, he won't mention it, and if some callers bring it up he'll cut them off and then go on a rant about how "everybody's out to get him".

Typical AJ maneuver.

Better yet, he allowed callers to think it was HIS rally. He'll probably have people thinking the organizers were the disruptors before too long...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-01-27   15:57:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: FormerLurker, christine, Original_Intent, Lod (#74)

a guy just called alex and thanked him for organizing the event yesterday and alex didn't give tribute to the real organizers. his only comment was that it was wonderful the number of people who showed up. that call gave him the opportunity to set the record straight and to apologize. the fact that he didn't says it all. :/

Well that pretty much seals it then.

Signed, sealed, and delivered.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2010-01-27   15:58:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: FormerLurker, Original_Intent, Cynicom (#75)

Likely he'll try to act as though it reveals nothing, he won't mention it, and if some callers bring it up he'll cut them off and then go on a rant about how "everybody's out to get him".

Typical AJ maneuver.

Better yet, he allowed callers to think it was HIS rally. He'll probably have people thinking the organizers were the disruptors before too long...

In the past AJ could have gotten away with it unharmed, but not anymore.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2010-01-27   16:01:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: christine (#60)

a guy just called alex and thanked him for organizing the event yesterday and alex didn't give tribute to the real organizers. his only comment was that it was wonderful the number of people who showed up. that call gave him the opportunity to set the record straight and to apologize. the fact that he didn't says it all. :/

Well that sucks and blows at the same time. The first thing he should have told the caller was that he didn't organize it and then said who did. Then he should have said that he had disrupted the event, "quite unintentionally."* If he had said that he may have been able to get some of his followers back into his camp but what he did and then not setting the record straight does not bode well for him imo.

*I am not saying that what he did was "unintentional" because it looked like it was intentional to me. Just saying that if he would say that it MIGHT help his cause a bit.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-27   16:07:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: randge, christine, James Deffenbach, TwentyTwelve, FormerLurker (#0) (Edited)

WEARECHANGEAUSTIN.org's motto is,"COME AND TAKE THEM!" and ALEX's is, "BUY MY NEW BOOK!"

His CIA handler sent "Agent AJ" in to disrupt the rally because they fear groups and pissed off activists they do not control. And you can be sure that Alex will have the gratitude of the Austin govt and police.

When the time comes for revolution Alex will tell folks to keep their guns buried and instead buy his new book entitled "TAKE AMERICA BACK FROM THE ARABS!"

To the blinded-by-love-and-hero-worship AJ supporters and skeptics I ask this:

Suppose you were an enemy agent-provocateur and your handler ordered you to disrupt a rally organized by supposed friendlies, the same rally to which you were invited but declined to speak.

WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY?

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HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-01-27   16:14:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: HOUNDDAWG (#79)

Suppose you were an enemy agent-provocateur and your handler ordered you to disrupt a rally organized by supposed friendlies, the same rally to which you were invited but declined to speak.

WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY?

I might have asked said "handler" if he didn't think that would blow my cover.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-27   16:18:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: HOUNDDAWG (#79)

Crime of this is that Darwin Boedeker who runs Texas Gun Shows is relying on "Agent AJ" to support his cause.

The APD/BATFE run-around that Boedeker is getting (which started this entire mess) is threatening the man's livelihood.

This man is in need of honest supporters, as are all gun show entrepreneurs.

www.infowars.com/texas-gu...ted-by-the-atf-makes-his- case-on-the-alex-jones-show/

randge  posted on  2010-01-27   16:25:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: randge. all (#81)

This would never have happened if the gutless sheriff of Travis country had informed the feds that their presence was not required here, and to go back to their ten square miles and stay.

Lod  posted on  2010-01-27   16:38:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Lod.all (#82)

This would never have happened if the gutless sheriff of Travis country had informed the feds that their presence was not required here, and to go back to their ten square miles and stay

If we are to have a bloodless reckoning with corrupt government, it will have to be one or two states that have governors with backbone to stand up and defy the criminals in Washington.

Texas would be a perfect state but your governor is a spineless wimp and a member of the criminal system.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-01-27   16:47:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Lod (#82)

It's one ongoing assault after another.

"The Negro is indolent and a dreamer, spending his meager wage on frivolity and drink; the European has a tradition of work and saving."

-Che Guevara

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-01-27   16:51:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Cynicom (#83)

Don't even get us started on gov. blow-dry...or sen. kay-baby.

medinafortexas.com

Lod  posted on  2010-01-27   16:56:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: HOUNDDAWG (#79)

Suppose you were an enemy agent-provocateur and your handler ordered you to disrupt a rally organized by supposed friendlies, the same rally to which you were invited but declined to speak.

WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY?

Nothing.

That is what is making this so obvious. There was absolutely no reason to do what he and his acolytes did, if they were there to help. No reason at all.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-01-27   16:56:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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