Thing is though christine, what about his outright lies concerning the event on his radio show?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
Well, anyone can have a bad day. Alex certainly bogarded the event. He definitely didn't think much of the gal that was admonishing him. It didn't help him to act rudely and I wish he hadn't.
He's a victim of his own success if he feels that the growing resistance movement is encroaching upon him.
He was wrong and if he knew in advance that those folks were going to be there, and he was invited by them to speak ... he owes them an apology.
This is not the time to fragment the resistance to tyranny.
Whoever would return government to the "will of the people" must first return the United States to the use of CONSTITUTIONAL COINAGE as a medium of exchange and through it return the Constitution as law in the United States.
Disruptor. Kinda stupid too in a sociopathic way. A megalomaniac.
Ya know, I had a thought that he may be really frustrated. He's being threatened by Glenn Beck's promise to do a bunch of documentaries and Beck has a larger audience in the mainstream.
Beck is truly a right gate keeper, he badmouths truthers and birthers to the extent of accusing them of being a threat to the president and others. Beck gives frustrated conservatives a place to vent and socialize. He's teamed up with Bill Is'Raeli to do some kind of comedy tour that will reach millions ... and Alex Jones may fear for his future and country.
Knowing that Beck is a shill has to get Jones' goat especially when success looks so easy for Beck. Jones has been hacking his way into the public eye the hard way for 15 years and all of a sudden BECK shows up center stage, getting paid million$$$, over funded, and threatening to do a bunch of documentaries too.
Maybe Alex just had a rude awakening thinking about how easily Beck could destroy everything he (Alex) has done so far, and do it without the obnoxious rudeness that Jones doesn't appear able to shake.
This would be sad too because in spite of himself Alex does bring certain things into focus that neither Beck nor any other MSM pundit will even discuss.
If Jones isn't intentionally self destructing so he can leave the country before the shit hits the fan, then he should apologize to those loyal local supporters on his program and grow the fuck up. His actions were immature and uncalled for.
Whoever would return government to the "will of the people" must first return the United States to the use of CONSTITUTIONAL COINAGE as a medium of exchange and through it return the Constitution as law in the United States.
His responses are that he doesn't care and that she's hard for him. Wow. Just wow.
Alex sees himself as the experienced frontline warrior and the lady as a raw recruit.
I also think Alex sees the movement being co-opted by others that could relegate him to the dust bin of history.
I too think he was there to get footage for his next flick.
He was somewhat gracious afterwards, thanking everyone for attending ... (like it was his event) ... all resistance to the current governments throughout the nation is good and this is no time to cause animosity within it.
Alex owes the planners of the event a big fat apology. If he can't do that he will fail because of his own ego.
Whoever would return government to the "will of the people" must first return the United States to the use of CONSTITUTIONAL COINAGE as a medium of exchange and through it return the Constitution as law in the United States.
If he's trying to further his career, he's going about it the wrong way, that's for sure. It's hard for me to put a finger on what' up with this guy. For a moment there, he reminded me of one of those WWF wrestlers shittalking up a storm. Like a braying donkey or someone banging cymbals. I'm not sure what his motive is sometimes, but know what his message results in much of the time... fear. So, I don't know, I don't like to draw hasty conclusions. I found the video to be somewhat shockingly surreal.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
I too think he was there to get footage for his next flick.
Maybe it's just that simple and he's just that shallow. A stupid megalomaniac. You're insightful. I hope you're wrong about the shit hitting the fan though. I have a feeling the future will be miserably boring. Like it's always been. ;-)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
It has taken a long time for a lotta people to see through this ahole.
Turning and turning in the widening gyre The falcon cannot hear the falconer; Things fall apart; the center cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. .... Yeats
He was wrong and if he knew in advance that those folks were going to be there, and he was invited by them to speak ... he owes them an apology.
This is not the time to fragment the resistance to tyranny.
Alex Jones is quite obviously not interested in resisting tyranny. He's interested in feeding his ego and his bank account. I've been telling you people for a couple years now that Jones is a phony.
You still take him seriously after this? Sheesh, what will it take to, uh what's that phrase... oh yeah, "wake you up" to the "truth" about Alex Jones?
#140. To: Mister Clean, iconoclast, noone222, all (#139)(Edited)
This is not the time to fragment the resistance to tyranny.
Now is the perfect time to "fragment the resistance to tyranny."
A unified resistance can be destroyed anytime they want to destroy it. The more fragmentation, the harder is for them to control us.
Why do you think that "lone wolves" scare them so badly?
We are unified, but only in purpose, not behind a leader that is either a traitor, and/or a ego maniacal sociopath, and/or just an asshole. It doesn't matter what he is, it's not good.
I've been telling you people for a couple years now that Jones is a phony.
I bet you got the same reactions I got. You can prove it to them, but they never deal in proof but emotions. You can show the lies, but they won't ever admit it.
Please listen to the last 5 mins of Alex's show where he comments about the protest. I'd like your opinion on what he had to say.
Pretty rich--in the first five minutes he was talking about Glenn Beck "selling us out." I wonder what he would call someone who sabotaged a rally he was sponsoring.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
We are unified, but only in purpose, not behind a leader that is either a traitor, and/or a ego maniacal sociopath, and/or just an asshole. It doesn't matter what he is, it's not good.
Bingo.
But where are the Washingtons, Madisons, Jeffersons .........? Nothing on the horizon but greedy plutocrats, and/or power hungering pols ... no clear headed men of integrity. My God, look, if you can stand it, at our last four presidents.
Turning and turning in the widening gyre The falcon cannot hear the falconer; Things fall apart; the center cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. .... Yeats
I bet you got the same reactions I got. You can prove it to them, but they never deal in proof but emotions. You can show the lies, but they won't ever admit it.
I realize that accepting the truth about Alex Jones is very hard for people who put their trust in him.
What puzzles me is that some people have been unable - stubbornly unable - to see what a joke Alex Jones is.
Well, if you had told me when I first started to check these conspiracy things out, I would not have believed you either. Although I would have kept it in the back of my mind for later. That was a rather hectic period in my life.
I don't know. I think they see it, like I started to see it. I think they have an emotional investment in him and a weird sense of personal loyalty and that keeps them from taking it to the next level.
Please listen to the last 5 mins of Alex's show where he comments about the protest. I'd like your opinion on what he had to say.
Sounds like his mind is gone and ain't comin' back. I am referring to what he said about when he was in Waco and looking toward some parking garage with a cop/sniper, 100 yards away (or so he said) and even though by his own admission there were several hundred people there, this cop had his weapon "trained on me." I call bs on that. How would anyone know from a 100 yards who a cop had sighted in when there is a crowd of people?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
I don't know. I think they see it, like I started to see it. I think they have an emotional investment in him and a weird sense of personal loyalty and that keeps them from taking it to the next level.
Or maybe I'm completely off base. I don't know.
The faith people have placed in Alex Jones is no different than the faith people place in phony televangelists.
Alex Jones is the Robert Tilton of the conspiracy world.
What puzzles me is that some people have been unable - stubbornly unable - to see what a joke Alex Jones is.
What he did at that demonstration was bad enough, but worse, to fantasize the next day on his show that he didn't disrupt the event, but rather it was the organizers who are to blame is unexplainable. I was never his biggest supporter, especially of late, but his actions are those of a sick man. A 24x7x365 diet of this material can blow the circuits of anyone. If AJ is to salvage his reputation he'll have to take time off, acknowledge his misconduct and ask forgiveness. If he doesn't do this, I'll consider him to have moved to the other side.
One way he's an unstable character who would think nothing of stabbing those who trust him in the back if it were to his advantage, and the other way he's delberately sabotaging the patriot movement.
The rally was organized by the We Are Change Austin people.
This rally was actually organized by John Bush and Texans For Accountable Government. (www.tagtexas.org). Here's their press release: tagtexas.org/?p=131, and here's their media page with some videos of mainstream media covering the event: tagtexas.org/?page_id=82
I've always been agnostic on the subject of Alex Jones, for whatever reason I've never become a fan of talk radio. I've held my tongue until now because I know most posters here are both more sincere and thorough than I've ever been, for what it's worth. Keep up the faith though and all that, maybe I'll adopt some kierkegard in my tagline
or something
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.
Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.
One of Kierkegaard's recurrent themes is the importance of subjectivity, which has to do with the way people relate themselves to (objective) truths. In Concluding Unscientific Postscript to Philosophical Fragments, he argues that "subjectivity is truth" and "truth is subjectivity." What he means by this is that most essentially, truth is not just a matter of discovering objective facts. While objective facts are important, there is a second and more crucial element of truth, which involves how one relates oneself to those matters of fact. Since how one acts is, from the ethical perspective, more important than any matter of fact, truth is to be found in subjectivity rather than objectivity.
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. -Thomas Jefferson
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.
Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.
If AJ is to salvage his reputation he'll have to take time off, acknowledge his misconduct and ask forgiveness. If he doesn't do this, I'll consider him to have moved to the other side.
That was the jist of the email I sent to him after I canceled my subscription to his site.
The only real restraint on gummints is people who say "live free or die" ... and mean it. - Enderby
Thanking me is immoral since I'm here to serve mankind, thanks for screwing it up for me, putz.
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.
Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.
Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.
Without reading any of these comments, I think what we have here is cult personality that assumed that in Austin, he would be allowed to take the horn and run the show. Ego ruled that day. Ooooops, Alex.
Now, will my attitude change once I read the thread? Many of you are quite persuasive.