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Title: Alex Jones disrupts 2nd Amendment rally, divides protest
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT7BW2CaPUw
Published: Jan 25, 2010
Author: WACAustin
Post Date: 2010-01-27 09:58:48 by randge
Keywords: Alex Jones, guns shows, protest, Austin
Views: 5113
Comments: 390
Alex Jones Exposes... Alex Jones! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT7BW2CaPUw Alex Jones Turns Peaceful Gun Rights Demonstration Into CHAOS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdJ4zhiB2s4 You Gotta Hard On for Me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWM17wiHhww Poster Comment: I won't tax you with a lot of blabber & half-baked opinion. You all here are big folks and know the meaning of what you see. Patience with the second video. There is a lot of lens time on the pavement, but it bears watching all the way through. Most interested in your comments.
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#223. To: PSUSA (#220)
David Ick is either nuts or a plant. Maybe both. His function seems to be to taint information by having it associated with him i.e., guilt by association. The lizard people shit is just that - shit. I believe its function is most likely to create the aura of kookiness needed to throw valid ideas and observations into disrepute by having Ick's name associated with them.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
All I'm saying is that with the marketplace of ideas as locked up as it is by safe thought leaders, the powers that be can pretty much let history take its course. They don't really need COINTELPRO and agents provocateur at this point. When Americans were schooled in less centrally managed institutions just 50 years ago, it might have been required. Here's a good public school product as an example. Remember as you're watching her that good Republicans say the same things.
Why is he either? He's making a good living. People love him. They're buying his product. What evidence do you have for suggesting that he's nuts or a provocateur?
I don't see any evidence here proving that he's controlled opposition. I think he could be controlling himself, so he just doesn't say what we want to hear. Now we're getting into easily hurled allegations without evidence. I'm tired of Jones for that very reason.
I don't doubt that, but I'd like to see some proof. Want to put a stop to it? Then people that claim this need to provide proof and expose it. No, I"m not addressing you on this, but website owners that claim this. They have logs that can prove it. So, prove it. I have yet to see that done.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Alex Jones is the Robert Tilton of the conspiracy world. ~Mister Clean Live free or Just as well I didn't lose my temper so! lol Hmmm... I'm usually good at detecting sarcasm, I must be slow today! ;) Edit: Actually, I think I was being sarcastic in that post too and didn't realise it! So very slow today...... ;)
Has martial law been discreetly declared in Ireland? http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0114/garda.html "The Emergency Response Unit have been deployed at checkpoints in Dublin over the coming weeks as part of a garda initiative against gang-related crime." Maybe not directly - a backlash too likely. But, I see in the Internet a trend that has happened and is happening in other sectors - gradual control by a handful of companies. Google the dominant search engine, Facebook seems to have it tentacles in most websites - note the frequency of Facebook links now on other websites. Youtube will eventually swallow up or crush other video hosting sites, and their censorship has been noted.
Has martial law been discreetly declared in Ireland? http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0114/garda.html "The Emergency Response Unit have been deployed at checkpoints in Dublin over the coming weeks as part of a garda initiative against gang-related crime." But hey, it's a free market. As long as we're free to start our own companies and compete to dominate entire sectors, what could go wrong?
A possible solution.
Has martial law been discreetly declared in Ireland? http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0114/garda.html "The Emergency Response Unit have been deployed at checkpoints in Dublin over the coming weeks as part of a garda initiative against gang-related crime." Unlikely. The capital for starting these firms is provided by like-minded investors. But that's not the only problem. If people wanted to know more, they would demand more variety of media sources. They don't.
Gah! An entire army of McCain_Rocks! lol
Has martial law been discreetly declared in Ireland? http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0114/garda.html "The Emergency Response Unit have been deployed at checkpoints in Dublin over the coming weeks as part of a garda initiative against gang-related crime." "One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
And the banksters ultimately control all capital. But that's not the only problem. If people wanted to know more, they would demand more variety of media sources. They don't. I hope there is, at least, a heightened curiosity from the general public - Truther Jim Corr (of the band, The Corrs) appeared on an Irish chat show last night - and a subtle effort to discredit him was made by the host by bringing up HAARP and the Haiti earthquake. Typical strawman tactic of course - pick out the crazier theories floating round. BUT! I went to visit Jim Corr's website, jimcorr.com, straight after - I could not access it, it must have been inundated with hits! At least it shows the Irish public want to know more.
Has martial law been discreetly declared in Ireland? http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0114/garda.html "The Emergency Response Unit have been deployed at checkpoints in Dublin over the coming weeks as part of a garda initiative against gang-related crime." I'm glad I didn't say rotgut/sardine sandwich/fifty yard line... lol
Has martial law been discreetly declared in Ireland? http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0114/garda.html "The Emergency Response Unit have been deployed at checkpoints in Dublin over the coming weeks as part of a garda initiative against gang-related crime." Why is he either? He's making a good living. People love him. They're buying his product. What evidence do you have for suggesting that he's nuts or a provocateur? Because of the shape-shifting alien crap. Ick, while putting out some good information, admixes it with the really kooky stuff for which there is no proof other than his apparent surmises. Knowing how PsyOps operates I thus infer that the association is likely (and I said "likely" not proved) intentional so as to discredit the good information. The tactic is called "Dead Agent" i.e., to refute something so as to reclassify it as unreliable. The tactic has both valid and invalid uses. It would not surprise me to learn that Icke works for MI-5.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
You're still making assumptions.
I don't doubt that, but I'd like to see some proof. Want to put a stop to it? Then people that claim this need to provide proof and expose it. No, I"m not addressing you on this, but website owners that claim this. They have logs that can prove it. So, prove it. I have yet to see that done. Unfortunately in the world of shadows and cybershadows the best one can do is inference from known data then to compare other data to the known. By knowing the tactics employed in PsyOps and Disinformation we can then spot it when it arises and hence it is not illogical to infer cause and effect.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
No, I am making inferences. An inference is a conclusion based on the comparison of known data to incomplete or circumstantial data and then drawing a logical conclusion therefrom. An inference may then, with more complete data, be proven valid or invalid. However, it is a bit more refined that simple speculation. The other possibility is that Icke is simply another good looking huckster who enjoys milking rich women.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
No. If some have been traced back to some .gov organization, then I want to see that proof. Otherwise, you are doing what those in Jonestown do. Anyone that disagrees with them is therefore a COINTELPRO shill. Just because someone has a differing opinion does not mean they are suspect. If these things are happening, then the only way to shut them down is to expose it. I've had a great number of local, state and federal .gov visitors on my blog. Too many to keep track of. They have never posted anything.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Alex Jones is the Robert Tilton of the conspiracy world. ~Mister Clean Live free or Both CENTCOM and the ISRAELI PR Ministry have publicly commented on their existence. The data is there if you wish to look. Just fire up a reliable search engine like ixquick and dig in.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
We're talking about Icke. Is he or isn't he an agent, and why? So far we have your inferences. That's hardly an argument.
His conduct was an embarrassment? To whom? People who still take him seriously?
Dave Ramsay makes a whole lotta sense.
having said that, if he never addresses it or offers an apology (he should have already), that pretty much shows his true character which is megalomania, imo. He's not going to apologize for anything. Can you list the accomplishments of Alex Jones in all his years of "fighting the NWO?" "Waking people up" doesn't count unless you can demonstrate some results of this great "waking up."
Yes, I already know this. We have yet another communication breakdown here. I never said those programs don't exist. It is one think to know that people do this. It's quite another to accuse someone of SPECIFICALLY posting things like this without proof. Notice I said already that having a different opinion than the group does, doesn't mean that a person is working for someone. Jones and his ilk pull that crap all the time. The data is NOT there, at least that I have ever seen. There are only accusations. Website logs tell the story. There is nothing top secret about a fucking log. A person that has access to these logs, and makes that accusation without providing the proof, is blowing smoke. The only way to stop it is to expose it. "Spray and pray" fire, ready, aim accusations are not proof. Both CENTCOM and the ISRAELI PR Ministry have publicly commented on their existence. I signed up for the israhell propaganda BS spewing just to see what they were up to. Nothing ever came of it.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Alex Jones is the Robert Tilton of the conspiracy world. ~Mister Clean Live free or I agree with you.
Jones doesn't wake people up. They come to him when they already know that the MSM is full if shit. The problem is their undying loyalty to him, maybe based on a false sense of gratitude.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Alex Jones is the Robert Tilton of the conspiracy world. ~Mister Clean Live free or They come to him when they already know that the MSM is full if shit. The problem is their undying loyalty to him, maybe based on a false sense of gratitude. Oh I agree totally. And the entire "waking people up" thing is a bunch of crap. For Alex Jones, "waking people up" simply means more DVD sales and membership subscriptions.
I think it goes something like this: AJ's audience is actually replacing their uncritical absorption of mass media information with an uncritical absorption of a "conspiracy researcher" who sounds faintly religious and faintly patriotic, appealing to a whole segment of the population. It's an ingenious marketing mechanism. Of course most of AJ's own research is based on mass media articles that he recycles with his own spin. Really what we need is parents who raise their kids to think for themselves, and educational establishments that encourage independent thinking. We have a lot of the opposite going on.
Well said.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Alex Jones is the Robert Tilton of the conspiracy world. ~Mister Clean Live free or Yes, absolutely. I would add that people should stop looking for a leader or a guru or a spokesperson. I know that won't happen but it should.
Ideally you would be right.
His conduct was embarrassing to me, to the people at the demonstration and to those who appreciate his material. I'm curious, now that we know who you dislike, can you tell us who it is you appreciate?
The only radio show I listen to regularly is Dave Ramsay.
Heard him a few times. Not much to the show after you pay down your debt, cut up your credit cards and tithe 10% of your income to your favorite 501(C)3 'church' so they can continue to keep the sheeple dopey.
The only radio show I listen to regularly is Dave Ramsay. Oh, goody - a NeoCon FauxNews GOP establishment bot. I'm soooooooo surprised.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
The show is not only about getting out of debt, staying out of debt and living within your means but that is the main component. I'd rather listen to that than shows that cover the same old tired political crap any day. Shows that deal in conspiracy theories and other alternative subjects are entertaining but nothing more.
Well if the Neocons advocate staying out of debt and living within your means they're heading in the right direction.
I will be honest. It was wishful thinking, in my case. Did you "wakeup" to the reality that Alex Jones is nothing more than a phony? I am stuck on ego, bad timing, stress and did I say ego. He strutted his rudeness and was way out of line. We all have character flaws. Damn, he is not perfect. What a surprise. Dirty, corrupt, probably not. Frustrated with why it is taking so long for folks to wake the fuck up, he even gets angry with those who are in the know. I love him too much to start hating him, yet. Like I said, I still have a tear for how Rush woke me up to the potential of an alternative talk radio.
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#224. To: PSUSA (#220)
I disagree with you on that. It does make a difference, to their respective audiences. They aren't even a blip on the MSM radar. They aren't meant to be. We are the audience. The difference they make is to us, to distract us into looking into fables. THink of all that wasted energy going into looking into total bullshit that would otherwise go into practical solutions.
#225. To: Original_Intent (#223)
David Ick is either nuts or a plant.
#226. To: Original_Intent (#221)
#227. To: Original_Intent (#221)
Per one article I read the lowball estimate of the number of active paid shills, of one stripe or another, was put at 40,000. PR Agencies advertise for these positions, and some well known shills have been traced back to government owned servers.
die kill ~~ Me
#228. To: PSUSA (#220)
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I was just being sarcastic. I meant nothing by it.
#229. To: Deasy (#219)
However, we do hear rumblings that unstructured media like the Internet could be coming under more rigid control. This too, I doubt.
#230. To: irishthatcherite (#229)
#231. To: Deasy (#230)
But hey, it's a free market. As long as we're free to start our own companies and compete to dominate entire sectors, what could go wrong?
#232. To: irishthatcherite (#231)
#233. To: Original_Intent (#221)
Per one article I read the lowball estimate of the number of active paid shills, of one stripe or another, was put at 40,000.
#234. To: irishthatcherite (#233)
Gah! An entire army of McCain_Rocks!
#235. To: Deasy (#232)
Unlikely. The capital for starting these firms is provided by like-minded investors. But that's not the only problem. If people wanted to know more, they would demand more variety of media sources. They don't.
#236. To: Original_Intent (#234)
#237. To: Deasy (#225)
David Ick is either nuts or a plant.
#238. To: Original_Intent (#237)
#239. To: PSUSA (#227)
Per one article I read the lowball estimate of the number of active paid shills, of one stripe or another, was put at 40,000. PR Agencies advertise for these positions, and some well known shills have been traced back to government owned servers.
#240. To: Deasy (#238)
You're still making assumptions.
#241. To: irishthatcherite (#236)
I'm glad I didn't say rotgut/sardine sandwich/fifty yard line... lol
#242. To: Original_Intent (#239)
die kill ~~ Me
#243. To: PSUSA (#242)
#244. To: Original_Intent (#243)
#245. To: Jethro Tull (#196)
This is a rough house to preach to. We're very capable of making our own minds up. I'm limiting my criticism to Jones based on this incident. I've said his conduct was an embarrassment, but that said, we're human and we all have bad days.
#246. To: noone222 (#197)
With respect to Mr. (ugh) Clean, I'd be more inclined to know who he "likes" as opposed to whom he berates.
#247. To: christine (#207)
i'm not willing to say or believe he's a complete fraud though. for the most part, i listen to his show for the guests he brings on and the discussions of current events.
#248. To: Original_Intent (#243)
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Both CENTCOM and the ISRAELI PR Ministry have publicly commented on their existence. The data is there if you wish to look. Just fire up a reliable search engine like ixquick and dig in.
die kill ~~ Me
#249. To: PSUSA (#248)
#250. To: Mister Clean (#247)
Can you list the accomplishments of Alex Jones in all his years of "fighting the NWO?" "Waking people up" doesn't count unless you can demonstrate some results of this great "waking up."
die kill ~~ Me
#251. To: PSUSA (#250)
Jones doesn't wake people up.
#252. To: Mister Clean, PSUSA (#251)
#253. To: Deasy (#252)
die kill ~~ Me
#254. To: Deasy (#252)
Really what we need is parents who raise their kids to think for themselves, and educational establishments that encourage independent thinking.
#255. To: Mister Clean (#254)
#256. To: Mister Clean (#245)
(Edited)
#257. To: Jethro Tull (#256)
I'm curious, now that we know who you dislike, can you tell us who it is you appreciate?
#258. To: Mister Clean (#257)
The only radio show I listen to regularly is Dave Ramsay.
#259. To: Mister Clean, Jethro Tull (#257)
I'm curious, now that we know who you dislike, can you tell us who it is you appreciate?
#260. To: Jethro Tull (#258)
Heard him a few times. Not much to the show after you pay down your debt, cut up your credit cards and tithe 10% of your income to your favorite 501(C)3 'church' so they can continue to keep the sheeple dopey.
#261. To: Original_Intent (#259)
Oh, goody - a NeoCon FauxNews GOP establishment bot.
#262. To: Mister Clean (#194)
What puzzles me is that some people have been unable - stubbornly unable - to see what a joke Alex Jones is.
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