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Title: Troops teach gay Afghans how to impregnate wives
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FOXNews.com
URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201 ... e-sexual-identity-study-finds/
Published: Jan 28, 2010
Author: FOXNews.com
Post Date: 2010-01-28 16:54:53 by randge
Keywords: Afghanistan, Homosexuality, Pashtuns
Views: 198
Comments: 14
Updated January 28, 2010 Afghan Men Struggle With Sexual Identity, Study Finds FOXNews.com As if U.S. troops and diplomats didn't have enough to worry about in trying to understand Afghan culture, a new report suggests an entire region in the country is coping with a sexual identity crisis. An unclassified study from a military research unit in southern Afghanistan details how homosexual behavior is unusually common among men in the large ethnic group known as Pashtuns -- though they seem to be in complete denial about it. The study, obtained by Fox News, found that Pashtun men commonly have sex with other men, admire other men physically, have sexual relationships with boys and shun women both socially and sexually -- yet they completely reject the label of "homosexual." The research was conducted as part of a longstanding effort to better understand Afghan culture and improve Western interaction with the local people. The research unit, which was attached to a Marine battalion in southern Afghanistan, acknowledged that the behavior of some Afghan men has left Western forces "frequently confused." The report details the bizarre interactions a U.S. Army medic and her colleagues had with Afghan men in the southern province of Kandahar. In one instance, a group of local male interpreters had contracted gonorrhea anally but refused to believe they could have contracted it sexually -- "because they were not homosexuals." Apparently, according to the report, Pashtun men interpret the Islamic prohibition on homosexuality to mean they cannot "love" another man -- but that doesn't mean they can't use men for "sexual gratification." The group of interpreters who had contracted gonorrhea joked in the camp that they actually got the disease by "mixing green and black tea." But since they refused to heed the medics' warnings, many of them re-contracted the disease after receiving treatment. The U.S. army medic also told members of the research unit that she and her colleagues had to explain to a local man how to get his wife pregnant. The report said: "When it was explained to him what was necessary, he reacted with disgust and asked, 'How could one feel desire to be with a woman, who God has made unclean, when one could be with a man, who is clean? Surely this must be wrong.'" The Pashtun populations are concentrated in the southern and eastern parts of the country. The Human Terrain Team that conducted the research is part of a military effort to learn more about local populations. The report also detailed a disturbing practice in which older "men of status" keep young boys on hand for sexual relationships. One of the country's favorite sayings, the report said, is "women are for children, boys are for pleasure." The report concluded that the widespread homosexual behavior stems from several factors, including the "severe segregation" of women in the society and the "prohibitive" cost of marriage. Though U.S. troops are commonly taught in training for Afghanistan that the "effeminate characteristics" of Pashtun men are "normal" and not an indicator of homosexuality, the report said U.S. forces should not "dismiss" the unique version of homosexuality that is actually practiced in the region "out of desire to avoid western discomfort." Otherwise, the report said, Westerners could "risk failing to comprehend an essential social force underlying Pashtun culture." Poster Comment: We've found a splendid place to do our nation building. There's just centuries of work ahead of us. The Yankee spirit of progress will no doubt prevail here as it has in so many other places. I know you're all ready to shoulder the load.
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The report said: "When it was explained to him what was necessary, he reacted with disgust and asked, 'How could one feel desire to be with a woman, who God has made unclean, when one could be with a man, who is clean? Surely this must be wrong.'" Ef 'em, explain nothing! They will die out in one more generation if left to their own devices.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Fortunately/unfortunately, this is probably the norm throughout muslim society. We are discovering this trend in Afghanistan because it is the first country we have been able to do sociological research in without being beheaded. The key factors of complete segregation of women and the prohibitive cost of marriage are the common threads throughout islam. When the Pashtun man said men are clean and women unclean, that is quite funny.
Send in NAMBLA. They can teach too. And think of the gay recruiting possibilities! They might do away with the "dont ask don't tell". It will be fag heaven!
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The level of misogyny in this culture and in many other places in that region of the world is so high that one wonders how the human race survives there. But somehow it does. I offer the term gynophobia for it. It's remarkable how prolifically these folks reproduce. It's all about the imperatives of social duty above consideration for the individual or something like that. It's all quite comical when viewed from afar. Less so when one has to deal with it on a day to day basis.
The attitudes of the "men" in those societies makes me wonder why any woman would put up with them for one minute, let alone long enough to raise kids that he "roughed in." For if their attitude is exemplified by those talked about in this article, "roughing in" is about all they could do.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. No wonder the neocons wanted in.
It's not socialism if it's the white man's money.
It's an Islamic Paradise, women need not apply for recognition as human beings.
_________________________________________________________________________ I once thought of writing an essay along the lines of "The Persistence of Culture" when I was over there, but found myself too underschooled in the depths of history or social science to write something that heavy. These folks live under the geologic weight of centuries of historical conditioning that we can scarcely imagine given our much more dynamic histories and our ingrained sense of progess. Their brains absorb the ancient archetypes of personality as it is presented to them and their religion early forms the bedrock of everything that they perceive. They like modernity when it means that you can stick a key into the ignition and zip around anywhere you want or open a can of vegetables and have a meal, but other than the material stuff, most other aspects of that world are suspect. And, BTW, the neocons love Islam. It's one of their most deadly instruments.
Yeah, amazing.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. SNOORT! Good one.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" Yeah, and there is that old saying about choosing your enemies carefully for you will end up being what they are. I think proof of that is the torture carried on at Abu Ghraib and the waterboarding, etc., that the neocons think of as "good, clean fun." Not that they would think of it that way if they were the ones having the alleged "fun."
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. One can only wonder what grim tasks stained these filthy fingernails.
I try not to spend too much time thinking about it. Just the amount we heard about was bad enough.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Show Me Obama's Birth Certificate!
The U.S. army medic also told members of the research unit that she and her colleagues had to explain to a local man how to get his wife pregnant.
Lord Acton
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#3. To: randge (#0)
have sexual relationships with boys and shun women both socially and sexually ... The U.S. army medic also told members of the research unit that she and her colleagues had to explain to a local man how to get his wife pregnant.
#4. To: James Deffenbach (#1)
They will die out in one more generation if left to their own devices.
#5. To: randge (#4)
Lord Acton
#6. To: randge (#0)
#7. To: James Deffenbach (#5)
The attitudes of the "men" in those societies makes me wonder why any woman would put up with them for one minute, let alone long enough to raise kids that he "roughed in."
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#8. To: James Deffenbach, Prefrontal Vortex (#5)
#9. To: X-15 (#7)
It's an Islamic Paradise, women need not apply for recognition as human beings.
Lord Acton
#10. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#6)
No wonder the neocons wanted in.
#11. To: randge (#8)
And, BTW, the neocons love Islam. It's one of their most deadly instruments.
Lord Acton
#12. To: James Deffenbach (#11)
#13. To: randge (#12)
Lord Acton
#14. To: randge, Dakmar (#0)
The group of interpreters who had contracted gonorrhea joked in the camp that they actually got the disease by "mixing green and black tea."
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