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Title: Christian Count.....Just Curious
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Published: Feb 2, 2010
Author: AKA
Post Date: 2010-02-02 12:48:21 by A K A Stone
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Just curious who would consider themselves a christian. Under this definition. That there is a God and he did write the Bible. Or that it was inspired by him. That his word is perfect and without flaws. That Jesus is Gods only son and the only way to heaven.

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That his word is perfect and without flaws.

Nonsense. Which version is the perfect one?

I'm a heretic.

I don't want to be lumped in with people that call themselves christians.

PSUSA  posted on  2010-02-02   14:55:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Nonsense. Which version is the perfect one?

Why his version, of course. Need you even ask? LOL!

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-02-02   15:20:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-03   9:29:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Are you guys familiar with the historicity and translation history of the Bible?

Just ask because it doesn't sound like it.

Which version is the perfect one?

That is what I asked, because I am somewhat familiar with the translation history of the Bible.

So, since you are evidently so familiar with this, since you question my familiarity with it, I'll ask you which one is the perfect "inerrant" version?

Now I fully expect you to ignore that question by trying to distract by asking about the "Magna Carta for example? Do you believe that they mean what they say? If so, then why, in contrast? What about "ancient Egyptian writings?" Same questions. "...

You won't answer because you can't. That's the real reason why. Because your answer will lead to more questions that you will find somewhat uncomfortable to contemplate and will tend to piss you off.

Here it is again: which version is the perfect "inerrant" version?

PSUSA  posted on  2010-02-03   10:26:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-03   10:27:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Well, sorry, I cannot sum up years of personal study in a single post on a thread for you.

I'll take your answer to have been no then.

And quit getting so emotional. It's unbecoming.

It's a very simple question.

Which version of the Bible is the perfect inerrant version?

It only takes a one line response. No need to "sum up years of personal study in a single post on a thread for you." What a wonderful distraction that was. Very creative. But not unexpected.

See? I told you that you would not answer it. Perhaps you'll reconsider??? For the benefit of the others here? Do it for them, not for me.

PSUSA  posted on  2010-02-03   11:07:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-03   12:14:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

BTW, your position has been made more than clear over the years.

We know that you disbelieve in the Living God and that will rarely if ever (never say never) provide much specific objective or otherwise hard data spawned by your personal knowledge or study of the Bible.

So how is it that you're an expert on it/them?

Well well well. What have we here?

BTW, your position has been made more than clear over the years.

Really? I didn't know I have been on this board for that long. How time flies!

We know that you disbelieve in the Living God

"We"?

and that will rarely if ever (never say never) provide much specific objective or otherwise hard data spawned by your personal knowledge or study of the Bible.

Answer my question and I will be happy to. I just need to know what the perfect version is.

So how is it that you're an expert on it/them?

I never said or hinted that I was an expert. Since when does it take an expert?

You continue to distract.

PSUSA  posted on  2010-02-03   12:50:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-03   13:34:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Then, what you'll notice is how easily explainable any perceived differences in the texts are reconciled.

Jeremiah 8:8 How can you say, "we are wise, for we have the law of the Lord," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?

Jeremiah 23: 26-27 How long shall this be in teh heart of the prophets that prophesy lies? Yea, they are prophets of deceit in their own heart.

Luke 24:25 Then he (Jesus) said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart, to believe all that the prophets have spoken.

Ezekiel 14:9 And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a think, I the Lord have deceived the prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.

Scirpture is clear that man is far from infallible in translation.

Moreover, the Bible is rife with contradictions. Because a story is told by man, the telling has discrepencies from one to the next. This is obvious in the telling of the story of Jesus, for example.

Such as the telling of the Trinity, the bible actually confuses teh Godhead multiple times:

John 1:1 Jesus and God are one. John 1:14 Jesus is God incarnate. Mark 1: 1 Jesus is the Son of God. Acts 2:22 Jesus was a man approved by God. John 10:30 Jesus and the Father are one. John 14:28 The Father is greater than Jesus. John 3:17 Jesus does NOT judge or condemn. John 5: 27,30, Acts 10:42, Cirubtguabs 5:10, God the Father has passed it to Jesus to judge. John 8:15 Jesus does not judge mankind but God the Father does. John 9:39 Jesus came into the world to judge. John 12:47 Jesus did not judge mankind but God the Father does. John 5:22 God does NOT judge. Romans 2:2-5, Peter 1:17, Revelation 20: 12-13 God does judge. Jude 1:14-15, God judes with ten thousand of his saints. John 5:24 Believers DO NOT come into judgment. Mathew 12:36-37, 2 Corinthians 5:10, Hebrews 9:27, 2 Timithy 4:1, All persons (believers and non-believers) come into judgement. John 5:31 Jesus says that if he bears witness to himself, ,his testimony is not true. John 8:14 Jesus says that even if he bears witness to himself, his testimony is true. John 6:44 No one can come to Jesus unless he is drawn by the Father. John 10: 27-29 None of Jesus' followers will be lost. 1 Timothy 4:1 Some of them will be lost.

Apparently, there was NO harmony among Biblical writers. From this selection of scriputures, one cannot discern if there is or is not a Trinity. One must cherry pick to take a stance.

And this is just ONE example........I can provide hundreds more where one writer contradicts another. It's not even the differnces in the texts that cannot be reconciled but the text ITSELF when comparing one writer to the next.

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-03   14:20:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-07   11:13:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Eric. She isn't going to accept the simple truth of Gods word that you have reavealed to her.. Her heart is harder then diamonds. She is a hater of the truth. She wants to keep her murderous attitude and sexual pervertedness. It is everything to her. You are being far to kind to her.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-07   11:17:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-07 11:26:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Her heart is harder then diamonds. She is a hater of the truth. She wants to keep her murderous attitude and sexual pervertedness. It is everything to her. You are being far to kind to her.

Substantiate your bovine excrement, AKA. Wow....setting that Christian example so early in the morning by gossiping and telling lies about other poster. You must be so proud.

Yes, Jesus would surely banish Eric to hell for being kind to me or any other poster whom YOU find disagreement with.

Heart harder than diamonds....lol.

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-07 12:36:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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