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Title: Christian Count.....Just Curious
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Published: Feb 2, 2010
Author: AKA
Post Date: 2010-02-02 12:48:21 by A K A Stone
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Just curious who would consider themselves a christian. Under this definition. That there is a God and he did write the Bible. Or that it was inspired by him. That his word is perfect and without flaws. That Jesus is Gods only son and the only way to heaven.

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#155. To: farmfriend (#154) (Edited)

Organized religions are not the same thing as individuals. If I say I am Christian do you then hate me? Or do you judge me by what I post here?

I never said it was the same thing as individuals. But it is made up of individuals that enable the "leaders" to do what they do. They have willingly attached themselves to these "leaders". I already said that it was their actions that led me to hate them. They either do these actions themselves or they aid and abet them by acting as a willing propaganda arm of whatever idiocy their teachers teach.

They can believe whatever they want. But they better stay away from me.

If I say I am Christian do you then hate me? Or do you judge me by what I post here?

It's related. I judge you by what you post, same as you and others judge me. I have no reason to hate you. I believe we are on the same side here. If I did hate you, you'd know it and I'd give the reasons for it. Test me by turning into a blithering idiot neocon or a starry eyed obama socialist and see the reaction you get.

If I say I am American, do you judge me by the actions of my country?

Only of you support what they are doing. Evidently you don't, from what you post. It's based on actions, not ancestry or country you're born in.

I know what you are doing. You are trying to use your own substitutions for "israel" by personalizing it by using both you and the US. "israel" and the jews and christians that support them are not sacred cows. A world without "israel" would be a better world. A world without this organized religion crap would be even better, IMO, because it's a farce at best and a mass murderer at worst.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-02-06   20:30:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: PSUSA (#155)

Test me by turning into a blithering idiot neocon or a starry eyed obama socialist and see the reaction you get.

Thanks but I'll pass.


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farmfriend  posted on  2010-02-06   22:25:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: abraxas (#122)

So, are you claiming there is no contradiction between Matthew and John?

I don't know why I waste my time on people like you. You know nothings who think they know something. Anyway there are no contradictions. You keep talking about contradictions but you fail to point any out. You speak and say a lot of words but you just spin in the mud.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-06   23:35:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: abraxas (#141)

My only explantation is that contradictions abound.

But you still sit on your fat ass stuffing your face with donuts and cannot point out any. What a fat ass loser.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-06   23:36:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: buckeroo (#134)

The scriptures don't provide modern methods; the Bible is out-of-date.

Your such a silly one buck.

Thou shall not kill is out of date.

So is not lying.

So is not stealing.

You must love our government they are regularly at odds with the values God gave us in his word the Bible.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-06   23:39:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: A K A Stone (#158)

Yummm.... donuts, figures you'd mention hol(e)y food.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-06   23:39:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: A K A Stone (#159)

Thou shall not kill is out of date.

So is not lying.

So is not stealing.

Tell that to that your presidential BS artist, John McCain.

"The most terrifying words in the English language are, I'm from the government and I am here to help." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1976

buckeroo  posted on  2010-02-06   23:47:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: A K A Stone (#158)

But you still sit on your fat ass stuffing your face with donuts and cannot point out any. What a fat ass loser.

I hate donuts (sic).

I've pointed out PLENTY of contradictions on this thread.

Say, are you going to answer the Trinity question or not? Who is supposed to do the judging......I found no reference to AKA Stone in the scriptures.

Fat ass loser......lol. Is that the best you can do? Do try to make your silly ASSumptions applicable AKA. Say are lame ASSumptions and insults part of your Christian faith since you are such a stellar example of all that is Christianity?

Way to set an example!!

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-07   0:14:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: A K A Stone (#157)

I don't know why I waste my time on people like you

Neither do I. Guess you have to find some stranger on the Internet to spew your bovine excrement and I happen to be the unlucky poster at the moment.

You are so self righteous that you really should find posters who are more self righteous than 4um posters to waste your time with. Doesn't anybody post on YOUR website? Seems like that site would draw the self righteous and arrogant like flies to crap. Isn't that working out for you? Can't you waste your time over there where the site is filled with "know somethings" like yourself?

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-07   0:20:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: abraxas (#162)

I've pointed out PLENTY of contradictions on this thread.

You haven't pointed out any. You made some vague references. But go ahead and take your best shot.

I don't expect it to be a good shot though.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-07   10:15:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: buckeroo (#161)

Tell that to that your presidential BS artist, John McCain.

Your the fool from Kalifornia that believes in Globull warmin. Just like McCain. You didn't even care enough about our country to vote against Obama. Your boy Obama believes in Globull warmin too.

You are two peas in a pod.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-07   10:17:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: abraxas (#163)

Doesn't anybody post on YOUR website?

Lots of people do. Take a look. www.libertysflame.com.

I don't think you could make the cut there though.

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A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-07   10:18:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: Ferret Mike (#160)

Yummm.... donuts, figures you'd mention hol(e)y food.

Mike your not holy because you eat donuts. Even if you put on one of those net shirts you wont be holy. To be holy you have to pray to God and ask for forgiveness and follow him.

There is hope for you Mike.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-07   10:20:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: abraxas (#82)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-07   10:53:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: abraxas (#82)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-07   10:57:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: Eric Stratton (#168)

Really 'nuff said there. But that renders the rest of your argument moot.

Gotta hand it to you on this thread. Your words were wise and only a fool would disagree.

abraxass and puss usa consider themselves to be God. They look at themselves as God in their own eyes.

Take abraxass for example. She is so godly that she supports murdering old people because they are depressed. She has the same disrespect for babies that are about to be born. She thinks that it is hunky dory to kill them too. She is also a pervert that thinks it would be ok for her to marry another woman if she wanted to. Sounds more like a demon then God. Satan did want to be like God. They are very deceived. I pity them. Poor fools.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-07   10:59:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: abraxas (#71)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-07   11:13:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: A K A Stone (#170)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-07   11:16:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: Eric Stratton (#171)

Eric. She isn't going to accept the simple truth of Gods word that you have reavealed to her.. Her heart is harder then diamonds. She is a hater of the truth. She wants to keep her murderous attitude and sexual pervertedness. It is everything to her. You are being far to kind to her.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-07   11:17:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: A K A Stone (#173)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-07   11:20:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: A K A Stone (#173)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-07   11:25:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: Eric Stratton (#174)

Perhaps, but it does no good for me to be unkind to her, eh.

I guess I am not as nice as you are. :)

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-07   11:25:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: A K A Stone (#173)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-07   11:26:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: A K A Stone (#176)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-07   11:26:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: Eric Stratton (#175)

When people like her start calling you a "zionist". Like they do me. Then in other posts saying all the zionists should be dead. Those few people here my gloves are off and brass knuckles are on.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-07   11:27:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: A K A Stone (#176)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-07   11:27:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: A K A Stone (#179)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-07   11:29:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: Eric Stratton (#178)

Well, you've had your issues with me as well, eh.

; )

Yeah, I thought you were someone else at first. I get confused who thinks what sometimes.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-07   11:29:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: A K A Stone (#182)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-07   11:30:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: A K A Stone, abraxas, Eric Stratton (#170) (Edited)

Gotta hand it to you on this thread. Your words were wise and only a fool would disagree.

abraxass and puss usa consider themselves to be God. They look at themselves as God in their own eyes.

@abraxas

Pinged because you're mentioned above. Evidently they don't have the balls to ping people they are writing about...

Sorry to interrupt Eric and AKA in your little circle-jerk love in... Its too emotional for me...

Being called "wise" by AKA should be downright scary. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

They are very deceived. I pity them. Poor fools.

Time will tell. But I appreciate what you said. Really, I do. When I see things differently that you do, I know I am on the right track.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-02-07   11:33:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: PSUSA (#184)

Being called "wise" by AKA should be downright scary. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

And trusting you enough to click on your preparedness list is donwright dangerous to patriots everywhere isn't it MR. Govt agent.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-07   11:38:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: A K A Stone (#165)

You voted for a pissant, John McCain. I never recognized the same.

"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977

buckeroo  posted on  2010-02-07   11:57:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: A K A Stone (#185)

Oh hell. My cover is blown. All agents: Commence Operation Falcon!


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-02-07   12:03:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: Eric Stratton (#168)

"Hearts" are no objective. If God exists, and wants us to know about Him, then He sure can find a way, via man, or "rocks that would rise up and speak," even less sensical according to you, would/could/did do precisely that.

So, why should people accept only one text regarding God and what he wants us to know about Him? The Vedas precede the Bible, yet you discount them. Yet, these texts are living in the sense that the volume of Vedas continues to grow to this day. These texts reveal much about the spirit in relation to time and quantum physics--did God not reveal such awesome information or was it just multiple coincidences? The Dammapada precedes the New Testament and is quite similar to the Sermon on the Mount--God inspired or again a big ol' happenstance? The Mayans are viewed as savages, yet God provided them with a calandar far superior to Western thinkers that is accurate to a third of a second. They also knew of all the outer planets long before Western "discovery" of them. Again, God inspired or simply good luck? Shall you claim to know all the ways in which God reveals himself?

Does God not and has He not revealed Himself and what he wants for all humans? Or is this God so cold as to simply banish these souls to hell for lack of knowledge? Could God be capable of revealing Himself in multiple ways, as is evident in the various perspectives of the 12 diciples?

Yes, He uses man....but this is an imperfect vessel. Do you not grasp this point? Even in the Bible, God manifests Himself to the people of Israel and even in His presense they cannot abide by what He wants. How much more can you? To attempt to understand the OT, one must also read the Kabballah--have you read that text?

You have not rendered my argument moot. Can God be perfect and man imperfect? If so, how can man perfectly scribe what He wants? We haven't even broached what has been lost in translations for the original languages to fit into English.

My argument is not that God does not exist, nor that he doesn't want us to know about Him. He surely exists and he surely wants us to know him. My argument is that MAN, being imperfect, is incapable of PERFECT translation and PERFECT telling of events, which naturally leads to confusion and contradiction. My argument is solely based on your contention that the Bible is perfect and infallible when transcribed and translated by imperfect humans.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-07   12:03:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#189. To: A K A Stone (#179)

people like her

lol.......now you're a prophet too, eh? Back to you ASSupumptions so early in the morning.

Please post where I've said all Zionists should be dead after you find your brass knuckles of course. Hmmmmmm.....brass knuckles must be what Jesus preached about, right?

Keep throwing those planks, AKA.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-07   12:08:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#190. To: A K A Stone (#179)

When people like her start calling you a "zionist".

Gee, I don't recall ever calling anybody on the 4um that.....maybe you are referring to people like somebody else. You can't even make an applicable analogy.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-07   12:32:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#191. To: A K A Stone (#173)

Her heart is harder then diamonds. She is a hater of the truth. She wants to keep her murderous attitude and sexual pervertedness. It is everything to her. You are being far to kind to her.

Substantiate your bovine excrement, AKA. Wow....setting that Christian example so early in the morning by gossiping and telling lies about other poster. You must be so proud.

Yes, Jesus would surely banish Eric to hell for being kind to me or any other poster whom YOU find disagreement with.

Heart harder than diamonds....lol.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-07   12:36:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#192. To: A K A Stone (#166)

If YOUR site is so great......why aren't you posting there? It is completely disrespectful to Christine for you to waltz over here and continuously advertise for your lame site that can't get any traffic.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-07   12:38:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#193. To: Eric Stratton (#172)

As to abraxas being a she, that certainly explains much. She carbon units are definitely more focused around the "heart"/emotional.

Sheesh Eric, you are sitting here gossiping and talking crap about other posters like a middle school girl and yet you think your silly sexist argument has merit......comical.

I'm offering very rational and pragmatic, not in the least bit emotional, discourse on various theological issue relating to the Bible. In fact, I have carefully presented information to you WITHOUT stating my beliefs at all. You can't get much more removed from emotion that to discount your own feelings-- maybe you should try to do the same.

Look, carry on with your gossip and your judgment and your silly explanations. Honestly, I thought you had more integrity, but I guess I overstated your virtues.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-07   12:44:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#194. To: Eric Stratton, AKA Stone (#171)

26 He who trusts in his own heart is a fool, But he who walks wisely will be delivered.

Eric, I didn't ask you to trust my heart. I asked you to refrein from judgment of the hearts of others......I didn't even mention trusting my own heart for crying out loud. Are your emotions clouding your judgment Eric?

Look, you ignore my valid posts regarding the Trinity. I'm happy to engage in quit pro quo-----but you haven't held up your end of the bargain. When you do, I will address the scriptures presented in this post.

Of course, I'll understand if you are too busy comparing and contrasting your judgment of me with AKA Stone.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-07   12:49:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#195. To: Eric Stratton (#169)

There's only one way. No writer of the Bible says that there are two ways, not one. John 14:6

No, there is contradictory criteria regarding getting saved--endure to the end, batism, belief to name thee, born of water and spirit, call upon the name of the Lord, confess that "Jesus is Lord," and Acts states that "Those God calls to himself will be saved."

I'm merely asking you which verses are correct and which are not, Eric. Unlike you, I'm not claiming to have the answers. I'm asking the questions.....of course you respond with "lack of knowledge" diversions. I don't think Jesus would respond that way, do you?

Gee, Eric, if there was agreement and no contradiction.....wouldn't we have one UNITED Christian family rather than thousands of sects?

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

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