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Title: Christian Count.....Just Curious
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Published: Feb 2, 2010
Author: AKA
Post Date: 2010-02-02 12:48:21 by A K A Stone
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Just curious who would consider themselves a christian. Under this definition. That there is a God and he did write the Bible. Or that it was inspired by him. That his word is perfect and without flaws. That Jesus is Gods only son and the only way to heaven.

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Just curious who would consider themselves a christian. Under this definition. That there is a God and he did write the Bible. Or that it was inspired by him. That his word is perfect and without flaws. That Jesus is Gods only son and the only way to heaven.

Yes, I follow Christ the best I can. As Lod pointed out, the two great commandments are what anyone really needs to focus on. Everything else takes care of itself after that. The rest is bait and I'll bite.

That there is a God and he did write the Bible. Or that it was inspired by him. That his word is perfect and without flaws.

Is really one question, and a loaded one at that. Until the invention of the printing press, it was rare for the common person to possess a copy of Scripture. I doubt most local parishes would have had complete copies either. An awful lot of people got "saved" during those days did they not? Amazing how many people were churched up without a pocket Bible being toted around for many, many centuries. Hit any Catholic or Orthodox forum and you'll find healthy debates to whether or not the Canon of Scripture has ever been fully closed. Then there is the whole separate issue regarding the deuterocanonicals. Holy Scripture makes it clear "Scripture Alone" does not contain the whole of divine revelation, BUT, it IS the supreme expression of God's revelation to the human race. St Paul states in his letters to remember the traditions handed down/taught by word of mouth or by letter by the Apostles themselves. St Paul mentions the two Egyptian magicians by name who stood against Moses, but their names are not recorded in the Old Testament. St Luke in the Book of Acts records St Paul quoting Christ saying it is better to give than receive. Good luck finding that one in the Gospels. As for contradictions or flaws, that makes for an interesting Google search. St Mark and St John record two different times for the crucifixion. Of course none of this begins to touch the many Bibles out there today with the vast array of translations and all the flaws therein.

That Jesus is Gods only son and the only way to heaven.

Yes and it depends. To whom much is given, much is expected. If you take things literally without any proper context, then you have to come to the conclusion a South American tribe who has never had any contact with the outside world are all condemned to an everlasting Hell because they cannot/did not acknowledge Christ and none are without an excuse. Do you really want to take that stand? Do you really want to turn God into a sadistic, evil, wrathful, vengeful deity who looks forward to punishing His creation just because He can? So said South American tribesman comes to God and says I've never heard of your or Christ. I never had the opportunity. God says off to Hell with you, you sorry slothful person! (I) said Christ is the only way to heaven and you never got that message from Me. No exceptions. Well, it sure sucks to be you today. Hell awaits, off you go! Really? Really? I tried defending that position at one time and it fails miserably on it's face as the atheists are dead on in this regard.

scooter  posted on  2010-02-03   1:30:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

If you take things literally without any proper context, then you have to come to the conclusion a South American tribe who has never had any contact with the outside world are all condemned to an everlasting Hell

Actually there is somewhere in scripture that mentions that those who have not received the word and do the things in the word naturally would be saved. That is a paraphrase.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-03   8:02:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

never mind

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