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Title: Christian Count.....Just Curious
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Published: Feb 2, 2010
Author: AKA
Post Date: 2010-02-02 12:48:21 by A K A Stone
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Just curious who would consider themselves a christian. Under this definition. That there is a God and he did write the Bible. Or that it was inspired by him. That his word is perfect and without flaws. That Jesus is Gods only son and the only way to heaven.

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#3. To: A K A Stone (#0)

I deny the Old Testament. I cannot accept a god who preaches genocide. I accept the idea of the New Testament that Jesus was the first born of many brethren. We are to become like Jesus. I also believe in reicarnation. I also believe those Zionists who kill millions of innocents for Israel will suffer greatly when the dollar collapses and will suffer even more during their next life or two.

Horse  posted on  2010-02-02   13:22:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I also believe in reicarnation.

As did early Christians and the Nestorian Church still does today.

I refuse to be drawn into theological discussions because the ones posing them inevitably fit Churchills description of a fanatic - as "someone who can't change their mind and won't change the subject".

As well one is usually confronted with the "If'n you don't believe exactly as I do the you's a heathen" argument. Another one of those interminably boring, close minded, and aggravating lines of discussion.

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-02-02   15:21:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I refuse to be drawn into theological discussions because the ones posing them inevitably fit Churchills description of a fanatic - as "someone who can't change their mind and won't change the subject".

I'm with you on this one !!!

noone222  posted on  2010-02-02   15:28:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-03   9:37:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#66. To: Eric Stratton, noone222, christine, Rotara, TwentyTwelve, wudidiz, all (#46)

But if anything, and while there are many many supposed christians that are woefully inept at describing/explaining why/what they even believe,

I would think that frequently describes the "rank and file" of most religions. People often take up a religion for no reason other than that they were raised in it by their parents etc., ... Given that Christianity, per Ian Punnit's comment on his radio program, has thirty some odd thousand different Christian Sects each with their own interpretation it is not surprising to me that people get confused about what exactly Christian beliefs are. There are some, the Hageeistians come to mind, who even deny the divinity of Christ. If one studies a bit of history and what early Christians believed then what it has become the two are related but not that closely. The Nestorian Church is probably the closest to the original Christianity. Since the Council of Nicea in 325 we've had interpretations, reinterpretations, modifications, and and entire litany of differing personal beliefs hung on to the Christ Mass Tree (a tradition founded upon the Roman Church's attempts to convert the Pagans who celebrated the Winter Solstice).

They get their "info" from people, such as here, with someone floating some nonsensical notion that is supposedly Biblical yet far from it, yet the context in which it is understood, or even the principle itself, are far from reality or truth yet have been cemented as facts in that person's mind.

I think Josh Billings aptly summed that up: (from memory so may not be exact):

"The problem is not what people don't know but what they do know that ain't so."

Most of the most ardent believers that I've come across, including myself, have a religious history but have forsaken it at some point to have become agnostic or otherwise inactive in matters of faith as it were, but have over the years of their lives studied diligently the Scriptures, history otherwise, and have questioned their own existence and come to the only logical conclusion that exists leaving all of the others sounding like trite fairy tales.

What I do know with certainty, and I will go no further, is:

There is a God.

Christ once walked the earth delivering a message of love and eternal life.

If one leads one's life with consideration of others, and acknowledges the Father to his realm and place then the rest is dogma and details, and frequently mis-interpreted dogma and details.

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-02-03 13:32:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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