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Title: Christian Count.....Just Curious
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Published: Feb 2, 2010
Author: AKA
Post Date: 2010-02-02 12:48:21 by A K A Stone
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Comments: 243

Just curious who would consider themselves a christian. Under this definition. That there is a God and he did write the Bible. Or that it was inspired by him. That his word is perfect and without flaws. That Jesus is Gods only son and the only way to heaven.

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a single discussable bit

I think that the Trinity is a single discussable bit.

Oh, so now the scipture presented is "shit stuck to the wall." Is that a step up or a step down from mud slop?

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-07   17:00:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Can you please provide the references

Why waste my time tediously posting scripture when you have deemed all scripture I've posted thus far as mud slop of shit on the wall?

You have done no homework for me Eric. You can't even answer the simplest of questions because all questions are beneath you and your superior knowledge and understanding in which you refuse to enlighten the rest of us with.

What is silly is that I've posted plenty of contradiction and ALL has been ignored by you while you claim I'm not posting the verses. Why do you carry on with these circular arguments?

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-07   17:04:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-07   17:05:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Eric's a good guy for the most part, but you cannot win an argument with any person if they invoke faith. In general, the limit of their logical abilities extends to "that's the way it is because that's the way God made it."

They've drawn their lines in the stone and are going to defend that fairy tale like it's the only thing they have.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-02-07   17:11:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Have a good day Eric....sincerely, I don't hold grudges or get all emotional about Internet discussions.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-07   17:11:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-07   17:16:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Eric's a good guy for the most part, but you cannot win an argument with any person if they invoke faith. In general, the limit of their logical abilities extends to "that's the way it is because that's the way God made it."

Thanks Sam, and I know, I've had plenty of good discussions with Eric on various topics.

Lol...there's a reason why they say avoid conversations about sex, religion and politics. But that's all we talk about around here. : )

People just can't seem to help getting emotional about it and, yes, there are limits upon logical abilities......mostly self inflicted.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-07   17:17:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

why you're not on bozo

You would miss me if you put me on bozo. : )

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-07   17:18:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-07   17:20:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I didn't ask you to trust my heart. I asked you to refrein from judgment of the hearts of others.....

This is precisely why your judgeless philisophy is so wrong. You are for very evil things. Let me list just a couple of them. Killing senile old people. Killing babies because they are inconvenient. Same sex "marriage". With you the list goes on and on.

In your warped mind you wouldn't have anyone judge anything. You would have a parent have their kids in the care of child molesters. I mean you can't judge right?

Your fruit stinks like cat shit.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-07   19:45:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

No, there is contradictory criteria regarding getting saved--endure to the end, batism, belief to name thee, born of water and spirit, call upon the name of the Lord, confess that "Jesus is Lord," and Acts states that "Those God calls to himself will be saved."

Then post chapter verse and tell us what the contradictions are and why. Are you capable of that little task? I seriously doubt it.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-07   19:48:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You voted for a pissant, John McCain. I never recognized the same.

He wasn't as bad as Obama. You thought high enough of Obama to not vote against him.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-07   19:51:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You voted for John McCain a known treasonous anti-USA Constitutional son-of-a bitch. The punk isn't even a Republican as he claims.

Your vote shows your true colours.

"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977

buckeroo  posted on  2010-02-07   20:04:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

People just can't seem to help getting emotional about it and, yes, there are limits upon logical abilities......mostly self inflicted.

You are one of the very few I would discuss these things with, knowing ahead of time that it is not a waste of time.

You are honest, whether we agree or not. That's rare. Very rare.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-02-07   20:18:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Then post chapter verse and tell us what the contradictions are and why. Are you capable of that little task?

Start with post 71. This was the first time I posted chapter and verse to which you chimed in with a response despite not knowing what the hell you were talking about.

Chapter and verse is written in the text......although we both know how poor your reading comprehension is.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-07   21:18:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You are for very evil things. Let me list just a couple of them. Killing senile old people. Killing babies because they are inconvenient. Same sex "marriage". With you the list goes on and on.

Your fruit stinks like cat shit.

Really? Supply the posts that support this bovine excrement.

Your breath stinks like cat shit. : )

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-07   21:19:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You are one of the very few I would discuss these things with, knowing ahead of time that it is not a waste of time.

Thanks PSUSA. I don't think we are supposed to agree on everything.....how are we to learn from one another if we only discuss issues within an echo chamber?

I don't claim to have all the answers and its okay with me if you disagree. I will still respect your POV.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-07   21:26:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

although we both know how poor your reading comprehension is.

my observation is that Stone doesn't read most of what others post. he thinks he's always right and righteous and is unwilling to earnestly consider information that doesn't gel with his preconceptions.

christine  posted on  2010-02-07   21:46:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Astute observations Christine. : )

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-07   21:50:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Start with post 71.

Quit being an asshole. That is a laundry list you cut and pasted. I'm not going to jump through your hoops answer 50 questions.

Pick one verse out of your pea sized brain. Quote that verse. Tell me another verse you think contradicts it. Tell me why you think it contradicts it. Then we can go from there. Are you capable of that?

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-08   8:06:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

my observation is that Stone doesn't read most of what others post. he thinks he's always right and righteous and is unwilling to earnestly consider information that doesn't gel with his preconceptions.

Don't be silly. How could you possible know what I read. Impossible.

I think it is abraxass and pussussr who thinks they are always right. That is why they are incapable of pointing out a verse and saying what is wrong with it. Instead abraxass cuts and pastes a group of things someone else said was contradictions. The pervert didn't even say what the contradictions were.

Now a question to you. You said I know it all. Well lets see how much you know.

Find me one verse in the King James Bible that you think is contradicted by some other verse. All you did was post someones version of the history of the King James version. Which doesn't matter if God was ultimately behind it.

Chapter and verse please.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-08   8:10:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Astute observations Christine. : )

Don't get to close dyke. I don't think christine swings that way.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-08   8:11:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I think it is abraxass and pussussr who thinks they are always right.

Wrong, numbnuts.

I never said any such thing. In fact, I know and explicitly admit I am not always right.

That is the difference between us. I admit it, and you can't.

And what is the point in pointing out these contradictions to you? It's already been done. You only call that person names and ignore what is posted. That is your style.

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Live free or die kill ~~ Me

PSUSA  posted on  2010-02-08   8:22:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Quit being an asshole.

This is where threads on religious topics always end up.

It's ludicrous.

Threads like these should be avoided like the plague.

randge  posted on  2010-02-08   8:30:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

This is where threads on religious topics always end up.

No.

Take 2 people out of these discussions and there is no problem. Or maybe it is just one person and his sock puppet. Who knows.

Everyone else has the capacity to disagree while remaining civil and calm.

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Alex Jones is the Robert Tilton of the conspiracy world. ~Mister Clean

Live free or die kill ~~ Me

PSUSA  posted on  2010-02-08   8:45:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Why do you REFUSE to comment when I site the words of Jesus?

I have come to the conclusion that you love what Jesus called

The Synagogue of Satan Revealed at Last!!

www.reformation.org/synagogue-of-satan.html

The Lord Jesus Christ said:

"I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan." (Revelation 2:9).

"Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee." (Revelation 3:9).

The symbol for ancient Israel was the Menorah . . . not the hexagram!!

Originally, the hexagram was an Egyptian good luck charm to protect from evil and put curses on enemies. Its origin dates back to the time of the Pharaohs.

The Arabs found the hexagram in Egypt and it became a common Muslim symbol.

Both Muslims and Khazars were/are mercenaries to defeat the enemies of Old Rome.

Today, their leaders use the Pentagon funding of the Khazar state to fill the Muslims with hatred toward the United States and its Triune God given Constitution.

and that you don't the the REAL ISRAELITES FROM THE KHAZARS

Itistoolate  posted on  2010-02-08   8:46:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You are absolutely right about that.

The problem is that there always seems to be one or two or three of those sorts of knuckleheads in the mix.

What might otherwise be an interesting and instructive exchange ends in a childish slugfest.

I hate banning, but some wise guys with their own forums should stay the hell over there.

randge  posted on  2010-02-08   8:50:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I hate banning, but some wise guys with their own forums should stay the hell over there.

Agreed. It's not as if he didn't provoke the banning. Christine is a sweetheart. I guess it takes a lot to rile her ;)

I thought of putting AKA on bozo along with the other, but he amuses me at times.

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Alex Jones is the Robert Tilton of the conspiracy world. ~Mister Clean

Live free or die kill ~~ Me

PSUSA  posted on  2010-02-08   9:04:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

"I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan." (Revelation 2:9).

"Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."

First off let me say I'm sorry for saying I think you are not a christian on another thread

Are you saying all the jews in Israel are fake Jews? If not then tell me this. Is there leader Netanyahu a real jew or one of these fake jews you talk about?

Do you support a Palestinians state where mosques are all over Gods holy land. Do you really think that God wants Muslims there building mosques? Really? B

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-08   10:11:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The problem is that there always seems to be one or two or three of those sorts of knuckleheads in the mix.

You talking about me giving abraxass a spankin?

Well I will say this in regard to that.

You shall know them by their fruit.

Her fruit is abortion, euthenasia, fag marriage. It stinks like cat shit. Her moral compass is broken.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-08   10:13:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

i think you know who I'm talkng about

abraxas has been pretty temperate on this thread

i'm not familiar with abraxas' opinions on the topics you mention

they haven't come up here & have no direct bearing on this dust up

randge  posted on  2010-02-08   12:27:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I think it would shock him to know his forum has its share of O'Piles, abortionists and anti-Christians - everything he rails against here.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-02-08   12:34:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Find me one verse in the King James Bible that you think is contradicted by some other verse. All you did was post someones version of the history of the King James version. Which doesn't matter if God was ultimately behind it.

i have zero interest or desire in getting into this with you. what i care about is your constant ad hominems, vulgarity, and obnoxious arrogance. just curious, why didn't you post this on your own forum?

christine  posted on  2010-02-08   13:05:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

he's bored playing in his own sandbox & he'a looking for fresh victims to torment

there's not a lot that is particularly christian in his approach

and look, i'm bumping this stupid thread again, dammit!

randge  posted on  2010-02-08   13:32:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Don't get to close dyke.

You are no Christian......and I'm no dyke.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-08   19:45:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

he's bored playing in his own sandbox & he'a looking for fresh victims to torment

there's not a lot that is particularly christian in his approach

and look, i'm bumping this stupid thread again, dammit!

Well, look who he lets in his forum. Merde Log, yuktard, and a few others of LP's "brain trussed". Fuckin' psychos. I can only hope he's just letting them in to gather info from their IP addresses to wreak mayhem in their lives.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-02-08   20:50:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Ok there are some Jews who say they are Jews and are not. Who are they?

Is Netanyahu and the previous say 5 leaders real Jews?

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-17   7:49:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

do a search for 'Netanyahu ashkenazi' and read about him

Itistoolate  posted on  2010-02-17   7:53:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Just tell me if you think him and the previous leaders of Israel are real Jews.

I can google bill clinton is the antichrist and I will get lots of hits. Because it is on the net doesn't make it true. Especially with so many out there who would like to see the Bible destroyed.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-17   7:58:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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