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Title: Christian Count.....Just Curious
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Published: Feb 2, 2010
Author: AKA
Post Date: 2010-02-02 12:48:21 by A K A Stone
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Just curious who would consider themselves a christian. Under this definition. That there is a God and he did write the Bible. Or that it was inspired by him. That his word is perfect and without flaws. That Jesus is Gods only son and the only way to heaven.
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#12. To: Horse (#3)
He never preaches genocide. This is what Jesus was telling others... Mark 10: 2 And the Pharisees came to him, and asked him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife? tempting him. 3 And he answered and said unto them, What did Moses command you? 4 And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away. 5 And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept. In other words, the laws he gave them including those through Moses were to help them control their acts, laws etc. But it was often taken too far. An "eye for an eye" doesn't mean you must take an eye for an eye, it means you must never go beyond that. Remember who the committed the first murder? Cain! Genesis 9:6 "Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man." He was telling them that this is the maximum, but that it doesn't mean that it must be. That is what is wrong with those use this to support capital punishment. They assume it must always be. But Jesus repeatedly reminded them that do assume so was wrong. This is what HE told them also... Matthew 5: 46 or if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
I have been told by many doctors (neurologists) that I am without a doubt a miracle. In 2002 I went down on my Harley trying to avoid a car that was cutting into me and I split my skull open. I was in a coma for over a month and then when I came out of the coma I was in a "vegetative" state. I was in Barrows (here in AZ) for almost 4 months in this state and my family was told I would never be anything except a "vegetable".... would never talk, walk, be aware of what was around me and that I would require constant care. Cigna, our insurance, advised my family and the hospital that since there was no hope of recovery they were no longer going to provide coverage for me to remain at Barrows and it was suggested that I be placed in AZ State Hospital and the odds where less than 3% that I would live/survive more than a year. July 6, 2002 I had the experience 99%+ will only have one time and I was declared. I was told later that it was 21 minutes and that they had gvien up and decided nothing else could be done... in other words "History". After 21 minutes they said my heart started on up on its own and that I began breathing again. I have been told that it was appx 3 hours later that I opened my eyes and tried to ask "where am I". I vaguely remember it.... had tubes all over, some machine pushing air into my lungs etc. My wife said "needless to say the doctors were shocked and they cannot expalain it". My family was told that even though for the first time in 4 months I was awake/alert that I would never talk in complete sentences again, would never walk etc..... On July 17th, 2002 they had a big party for me and let me go home. I walked out to the car with my wife and she drove us home. Since then I have seen numerous neurologists and all have been let's say stunned when they look at my MRI and CT scans as well as EEGs and other tests. More than once I have been asked if I would consider undergo different types of exams/tests. According to the doctors, the tests and med records almost all of the front half of my brain was destroyed. I have no activity in parietal, temporal or frontal lobes (both sides) and they cannot explain it. I just smile when they say these things because I still remember the light, seeing my grandmother who passed away in 1978, her telling me "not yet, too soon, Penny (my wife) needs you". I also remember as if it was just a few minutes ago hearing "GO BACK, YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE YET. I HAVE THINGS FOR YOU TO DO, GO BACK". I have been asked many times to speak at different churches and to different Christian groups and it has been suggested that I should write a book about my experiences - there have been many more than just what I talk about here. some people ask me if I am a believer.... I just smile and say NO... I AM KNOWER - I HAVE NO DOUBT".
I disagree with Hitchens characterization of himself as an atheist. On the contrary, his writings prove beyond a reasonable doubt that his god is the government. Christians have stoutly opposed women's sovereignty over their own bodies, tyrannising public policy on abortion, as the atheists would see it. I also disagree with this "atheists believe this" and "atheists believe that" BS. Like Christians themselves, atheist beliefs are all over the board. For instance, I am against abortion, yet I am an atheist, or at least highly agnostic. I am against abortion because I believe that "life liberty and the pursuit of happiness" applies to the unborn as much as it does the born. I believe that "pro-choice" is a euphemism for "irresponsibility." The choice was made when the legs were spread. Living with the consequences of that choice is called responsibility. A woman should have no more right to murder an unborn baby than I do to murder a liberal.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
An interesting experience, a worthy story, and a lesson all in one. I think this type of experience should settle one thing, but the scoffers will still scoff, that you are not your body you are your spirit, and you reside within a body, but that body is not you the person. That also was the message of the resurrection. You are your spirit and you do not HAVE a soul, you ARE your soul. You are a spiritual being in a material world, as are we all. The scoffers may well scoff but that does not change the reality. I am also reminded of a young englishman, a Cambridge Graduate in Mathematics (and still living so far as I know), who drove the establishment Brainologists to distraction because he had no brain. Literally he was born without a brain and which was proved by x-rays. Yet there he was, as happy as any other person with a brain and significantly brighter than most, and yet he had no brain. The best the "you are your body and your brain" crowd could come up with is that "it's all being done in his brain stem". Uh huh. Sure.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Excuse me? Babies are innocents and are presumed to be without guilt.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Atheist, bordering on militant, in that I believe the world would be infinitely better governed by reason than by idiotic adherents to Bronze Age fairy tales. My philosophy is that of Epicurus: "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" Quod erat demonstrandum. Let me add to that, that if he does exist, he's a monstrous great bastard and I want nothing to do with him.
Babies are innocents and are presumed to be without guilt. I have to say that your point is well taken.
Whoever would return government to the "will of the people" must first return the United States to the use of CONSTITUTIONAL COINAGE as a medium of exchange and through it return the Constitution as law in the United States.
Is that from the Avatar movie?
"Satan / Cheney in "08" My philosophy is that of Epicurus: "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" Quod erat demonstrandum. And with any such logically fallacious argument of this category presenting another alternative invalidates the argument to whit: God specifically does not intervene because we were granted free will and self determinism. It is our responsibility to rise above the evil and to create a civilization worthy of the name. To demand of God that he solve our problems for us is abdicate responsibility for our actions. That is why I am so derisive of the rupture nuts as theirs is simply another excuse for avoiding responsibility. Q.E.D.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Most humans from back in antiquity until now, prefer to believe in or desire there be a divine being. The degree of their belief is the dividing point, from atheism to extremism. Religion and science agree on one point of their arguments, that is, very basic religion God always was, the scientist says matter always was, and from there they diverge.
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"The most terrifying words in the English language are, I'm from the government and I am here to help." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1976
The extremes on any subject are often times equally wrong. From rejection to ecstasy is one point on the same circle.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Whoever that is is going just a wee bit heavy on that black gunk on her eyes. Speaking of eyes, what's up with those rectangular pupils? That's weird.
Once had two friends, one a scientist, the other a PHD in theology. One knew there was no such thing as a God, the other knew full well there was. The scientist friend was fairly regular at church however, his explanation, I want to make sure.
It really isn't so much about "Christians" or the false prophets that is imbued in contemporary ministries. Nope. Nothing to do with any of that. It is about the people that believe in false prophets; similar to the political charlatans that believe in "Democrats" or "Republicans."
"The most terrifying words in the English language are, I'm from the government and I am here to help." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1976
That's an awesome story...thank you for sharing.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Atheism was probably the biggest mistake I made in my younger years (college and about 5-6 years afterwards). It made one family relationship much more stressful than it ever should have been and it was my own sense of infallible knowledge that was at fault. Now I am agnostic but I respect Christianity.
Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle
Hedging your bets is never a bad idea.
I believe that loving God with one's being and treating my neighbor as I desire to be treated are the two supreme laws.
Perfect point - those are the only two laws that Christ added to the Ten Commandments. If followed, there would be no need for any other of our rules, laws, or regulations.
Amen, brother. It's simple common sense, eh?
As stupid as we became after eating from the tree of knowledge, He had to make it pretty simple for us. And even today, we still don't get it.
Thanks. There is much more but it would take numerous posts. One of these days I am going to write the whole thing down and save it so I can just post it. One of the things I believe HE has for me to do is share my testimony. There have been a few odd things.... like I can no longer smell or taste food because the olfactory (sp) nerves were all severed. The one thing that probably bothers me more than anything is the doctors explained that the damage destroyed the function of the amygdala, hypothalamus and all the parts of the frontal lobes that control emotions. It has gotten better over the years but I still have problems with anger and depression. The anger will quickly come in less than a few seconds and sometimes I become outraged and quite vocal (as one of my bosses learned a few years ago as well as a few of those on the Organizing For America-Obama site LOL) but fortunately it usually subsides within a minute or so. The saddness and depression often last much longer. But, to be honest, I have virtually no regret with respect to the accident and what happened. As I said before, I no longer just believe - I am 100% sure/positive. Take care.
If you follow those two it is not possible to break any of the 10 Commandments.
Yes, I follow Christ the best I can. As Lod pointed out, the two great commandments are what anyone really needs to focus on. Everything else takes care of itself after that. The rest is bait and I'll bite. Is really one question, and a loaded one at that. Until the invention of the printing press, it was rare for the common person to possess a copy of Scripture. I doubt most local parishes would have had complete copies either. An awful lot of people got "saved" during those days did they not? Amazing how many people were churched up without a pocket Bible being toted around for many, many centuries. Hit any Catholic or Orthodox forum and you'll find healthy debates to whether or not the Canon of Scripture has ever been fully closed. Then there is the whole separate issue regarding the deuterocanonicals. Holy Scripture makes it clear "Scripture Alone" does not contain the whole of divine revelation, BUT, it IS the supreme expression of God's revelation to the human race. St Paul states in his letters to remember the traditions handed down/taught by word of mouth or by letter by the Apostles themselves. St Paul mentions the two Egyptian magicians by name who stood against Moses, but their names are not recorded in the Old Testament. St Luke in the Book of Acts records St Paul quoting Christ saying it is better to give than receive. Good luck finding that one in the Gospels. As for contradictions or flaws, that makes for an interesting Google search. St Mark and St John record two different times for the crucifixion. Of course none of this begins to touch the many Bibles out there today with the vast array of translations and all the flaws therein. Yes and it depends. To whom much is given, much is expected. If you take things literally without any proper context, then you have to come to the conclusion a South American tribe who has never had any contact with the outside world are all condemned to an everlasting Hell because they cannot/did not acknowledge Christ and none are without an excuse. Do you really want to take that stand? Do you really want to turn God into a sadistic, evil, wrathful, vengeful deity who looks forward to punishing His creation just because He can? So said South American tribesman comes to God and says I've never heard of your or Christ. I never had the opportunity. God says off to Hell with you, you sorry slothful person! (I) said Christ is the only way to heaven and you never got that message from Me. No exceptions. Well, it sure sucks to be you today. Hell awaits, off you go! Really? Really? I tried defending that position at one time and it fails miserably on it's face as the atheists are dead on in this regard.
"What began in Russia will end in America."- 1930, Elder Ignatius of Harbin, Manchuria.
Actually there is somewhere in scripture that mentions that those who have not received the word and do the things in the word naturally would be saved. That is a paraphrase.
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hey stone do Jews believe in Christ?
Hey tolate is the Bible true?
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never mind
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
I have the same attitude toward my accident and also agree with the rest of your statement here. I have to say it made me LESS fundamentalist, though. I had been attending a Southern Baptist church for a long time prior to that, but the experiences I had when I left my body were all about entering a realm of pure love which really cannot be described by the earthly religion I had been caught up in. I also thank you for sharing that amazing story of what happened to you. I suffered no permanent damage from what happened to me and I only lost consciousness for a brief period of time. In fact, the guy who had heard the thud and came out of his house to see what had happened out in the street (he was watching a pro football game at the time; it was a Sunday afternoon) said he had to keep me from trying to get up out of the ditch I'd landed in. That's what my body reflexively wanted to do. I have no memory of that and wouldn't have been able to get far with a pelvis broken in three places anyhow. Then the collapsed lung began to affect the oxygen level in my brain and that's when I probably lost consciousness for a while.
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
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Right on ... it's hypocrites that have so dulled the two-edged sword.
Whoever would return government to the "will of the people" must first return the United States to the use of CONSTITUTIONAL COINAGE as a medium of exchange and through it return the Constitution as law in the United States.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latestcannot accept a god who preaches genocide.
#13. To: Sam Houston (#5)
#14. To: 2big2fail (#11)
and god is not Great (Christopher Hitchens).
#15. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#13)
#16. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#14)
A woman should have no more right to murder an unborn baby than I do to murder a liberal.
#17. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#18. To: Original_Intent (#16)
Excuse me?
#19. To: buckeroo (#10)
#20. To: Samuel Gray, all (#17)
Atheist, bordering on militant, in that I believe the world would be infinitely better governed by reason than by idiotic adherents to Bronze Age fairy tales.
#21. To: Original_Intent (#20)
#22. To: tom007 (#19)
#23. To: Cynicom (#21)
#24. To: buckeroo (#10)
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#25. To: Original_Intent (#23)
#26. To: Esso (#24)
#27. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#13)
#28. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#29. To: Cynicom. all (#25)
The scientist friend was fairly regular at church however, his explanation, I want to make sure.
#30. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#31. To: bluegrass (#30)
#32. To: Lod (#31)
#33. To: bluegrass. all (#32)
#34. To: abraxas (#27)
#35. To: Lod (#31)
#36. To: A K A Stone (#0)
Just curious who would consider themselves a christian. Under this definition. That there is a God and he did write the Bible. Or that it was inspired by him. That his word is perfect and without flaws. That Jesus is Gods only son and the only way to heaven.
That there is a God and he did write the Bible. Or that it was inspired by him. That his word is perfect and without flaws.
That Jesus is Gods only son and the only way to heaven.
#37. To: scooter (#36)
If you take things literally without any proper context, then you have to come to the conclusion a South American tribe who has never had any contact with the outside world are all condemned to an everlasting Hell
#38. To: A K A Stone (#37)
#39. To: Itistoolate (#38)
#40. To: A K A Stone (#37)
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die kill ~~ Me
#41. To: Horse, All (#3)
#42. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#34)
But, to be honest, I have virtually no regret with respect to the accident and what happened. As I said before, I no longer just believe - I am 100% sure/positive.
#43. To: PSUSA (#4)
#44. To: F.A. Hayek Fan, PSUSA (#6)
#45. To: F.A. Hayek Fan, PSUSA (#6)
#46. To: noone222, Original_Intent (#8)
#47. To: buckeroo (#10)
#48. To: Samuel Gray, All (#17)
#49. To: Samuel Gray (#17)
#50. To: Eric Stratton (#47)
Seriously, she's also the precise type that both Jesus and Paul spoke about negatively who were false sheep/prophets.
#51. To: Esso (#24)
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