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Title: Fate of Obama's Aunt in Judge's Hands
Source: Fox News
URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201 ... 6:g2:r2:c0.136936:b30243392:z0
Published: Feb 4, 2010
Author: AP
Post Date: 2010-02-04 11:40:47 by scrapper2
Keywords: Obama, Obama
Views: 783
Comments: 87

BOSTON -- President Barack Obama's African aunt is going before an immigration judge for a second time to argue she should be allowed to stay in the United States.

Kenya native Zeituni Onyango is scheduled to appear Thursday in U.S. Immigration Court in Boston.

Onyango moved to the United States in 2000. Her first asylum request was rejected. She was ordered deported in 2004. But she didn't leave the country and continued to live in public housing in Boston.

Her status as an illegal immigrant was revealed just days before Obama was elected.

Obama says he didn't know his aunt was living in the country illegally. He says laws covering the situation should be followed.

A judge agreed to reopen the asylum case.


Poster Comment:

"She was ordered deported in 2004. But she didn't leave the country and continued to live in public housing in Boston."

Obama's aunt has disregarded a deportation decision from a JUDGE and continued to live ILLEGALLY in this country for 6 years on the US TAXPAYERS' DIME. How many of us could ignore a judge and live happily ever after without paying a cent for our upkeep?

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#38. To: Ferret Mike (#36)

I'm sorry, I like the guy, and I don't apologize for it.

No reason to apologize. People should be allowed their delusions in a free country.

The personal level stuff doesn't matter to me, and it sounds like a level of relationship that breaks no laws and is not hurting anyone.

ROFLMAO! You mean other that than abuse of office,fraud,and immigration laws?

I expected him to call for nuclear power if elected and I was not surprised when he did, and I oppose him on this.

Yeah,who needs all that cheap,clean power,anyhow?

I have a higher comfort level with President Obama then I did with Bush,

Of course you do. He is a far left fascist,as opposed to a mere leftist fascist.

and he so far is pretty much what expected to see.

Me,too. Bush 4.0

I see him working a learning curve in the job now, and see him moving toward the center as the elections get near, and he'll really do a Bill Clinton in movement if he sees the House become Republican controlled in November,

He's just not that smart. Smarter than Al Gore was maybe,but so are my socks.

All of us have been wrong in our opinions on things on these boards, it's just usually no one admite to it when this happens,

I still remember the last time I was major-league wrong. It was when Boy Jorge was elected,and I said, "So what if he is Poppy Bush Jr? He CAN'T be worse than Clinton was!"

I learned a valuable lesson then. Notice you haven't heard me say that Bubba Barry can't be worse than Boy Jorge? That's because I am now convinced there is no bottom to how bad a president can be,and don't want to be that wrong again.

sneakypete  posted on  2010-02-04   21:48:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: scrapper2 (#37)

I'm sorry, but the people who hurt the original inhabitants greatly by rubbing them out to destroy the beauty and greatness of the various biomes of this Continent's crisis about immigration is just high comedy to me.

I have even lost work in the woods planting trees sooner then I wanted because of immigration from the south and I still don't give a rip. Not in the very least.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-05   10:32:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: sneakypete (#38)

"I still remember the last time I was major-league wrong. It was when Boy Jorge was elected,and I said, "So what if he is Poppy Bush Jr? He CAN'T be worse than Clinton was!"

My worst call was in 1996 when Ford vanquished Reagan in the primaries and convention and I thought, "Well, that's that for that douche bag."

He went on to become one of the epic worst presidents we have ever had, and until Bush the younger, I had felt his status as the worst in my lifetimne would never be challenged.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-05   10:36:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Ferret Mike (#40)

He went on to become one of the epic worst presidents we have ever had, and until Bush the younger, I had felt his status as the worst in my lifetimne would never be challenged.

Obama is worse--far worse--than Reagan. All you need to understand is that they get worse every election. The Kenyan you voted for and love so much is the worst yet. I don't look forward much to the next farce of an election because I don't know what they can possibly get that will be worse than Obama unless it is the anti-Christ.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-05   10:41:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: James Deffenbach (#41)

Overall, I expect Barack Obama to be a decent president, and do not share your aggravation over his presidency. And trying to turn this American Christian into a Kenyan Muslim is one of the best ways to kill criticism of him.

As the vast majority of Americans believe their eyes and ears on this first, not the conspiracy theory you love so much.

He's only worshiped in a Christian Church with his family for many years and there is zero evidence the newspaper and government proof of where he was born is false.

Before you are going to get anywhere with your desire to get rid of him, first you must do something about your love of these fairy tales about him.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-05   11:00:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Ferret Mike (#40)

My worst call was in 1996 when Ford vanquished Reagan in the primaries and convention and I thought, "Well, that's that for that douche bag."

No,your worse call was not recognizing that Reagan was the best president this country has had in the last 200 years,and the only president in either of our lifetimes that put America first. Was he perfect? Hell,no! He was clearly heads and shoulders above whatever loser came in 2nd,though.

sneakypete  posted on  2010-02-05   11:06:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: James Deffenbach, Ferret Mike (#41)

The Kenyan you voted for and love so much is the worst yet.

Mike will never accept that. In his mind,Bubba Barry HAS to be better because he is both a Dim and black. Believing anything else would destroy the whole foundation his political beliefs rests on.

sneakypete  posted on  2010-02-05   11:10:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Ferret Mike (#42)

He's only worshiped in a Christian Church with his family for many years

Yeah,"The First Church of Kill All the Honkies!",where he sat in the front pew for over 20 years and claims to have never heard anything. A church whose mission statement page was dedicated to being Africans and not Americans.

A black Stormfront.

Yup,much to admire there,huh?

sneakypete  posted on  2010-02-05   11:13:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: sneakypete (#45)

I listened to President Obama's long talk on his former pastor and church -- which is still on You Tube -- back when and then again last week.

As he said in it, he does not buy Wright's diatribes that are very objectionable, and it is very common an experiance for many to not agree with everything their pastor says and believes.

No sale on that point. The argument you cite was made and successfully rebuked by the president a long time ago.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-05   11:20:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Ferret Mike (#39)

I'm sorry, but the people who hurt the original inhabitants greatly by rubbing them out to destroy the beauty and greatness of the various biomes of this Continent's crisis about immigration is just high comedy to me.

?????

Speak English, please.

scrapper2  posted on  2010-02-05   11:25:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Ferret Mike (#42)

Mike, you seem somewhat blind to reality. Unless it is your argument that your hero is quite insane then you have to know that there is something very wrong somewhere in his obstinate refusal to produce his long form birth certificate. Do sane people who have to prove their qualifications, and who know that before they apply for the job, then spend 2 million dollars or more to keep from proving their qualifications? Not unless they are insane.

As for the "Christian Church" he attended, that is one of the biggest lies he has told--he is NOT an "American Christian" or any kind of Christian. Actual Christian pastors do not stand in the pulpit (or anywhere else) and take God's name in vain like Jeremiah Wright did (and probably does with some regularity). His violation of his oath of office and his expansion of wars that we shouldn't even be fighting anyway proves that he is not a Christian. And I strongly suspect that if there is another farce of an election in 2012 and your hero gets (s)elected again, he will most likely announce that he is a Muslim.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-05   11:27:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: scrapper2 (#47)

This was paradise before Columbus, it is a nightmare here since then. Our culture has zero respect for the land, it's plants and animals.

Simple enough?


Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-05   11:29:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: sneakypete, Ferret Mike (#44)

Mike will never accept that. In his mind,Bubba Barry HAS to be better because he is both a Dim and black. Believing anything else would destroy the whole foundation his political beliefs rests on.

He does seem to have an unusually large blind spot where his hero is concerned. Even trying to make people believe that he (Obama) attended a "Christian church." There doesn't seem to be any verifiable record of that (since that building where Jeremiah Wright does all that whitey hating is not a "Christian church"--not even close).

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-05   11:32:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: James Deffenbach (#50)

I reject the notion that because you hate Barack Obama and because Jeremiah Wright has opinions not ready for prime time that the church he belonged to in Chicago was evil.

Your hyperboyle makes an amusing read, but is shy on reality.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-05   11:37:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Ferret Mike (#51)

I don't "hate" your hero, just think know he is a con man and a fraud who should be impeached and put in prison like other criminals. Neither do I think the pastor of his so-called "church" is a Christian.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-05   11:39:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Ferret Mike (#49)

This was paradise before Columbus, it is a nightmare here since then. Our culture has zero respect for the land, it's plants and animals.

Say what? How are the crimes of Columbus era explorers against Native American Indians relevant to the subject under discussion - ie welfare freeloading illegal immigrants like Auntie Zeituni costing American taxpayers, like you and me, $2.2 TRILLION over their lifetimes?

Postscript: If environment is so important to you, then you should care about the very real deleterious effects of illegal immigration on our environment - excessive pollution, over use of fossil fuels, population congestion, wanton ecological destruction on the southern borders, etc, etc.

scrapper2  posted on  2010-02-05   11:50:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Ferret Mike (#49)

Here's a little taste of Mexico, Mike.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-02-05   11:55:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: scrapper2 (#53)

If environment is so important to you

Save your breath, scrapper. It's not the "environment" that is of importance to all those that holler about it. The "environment" is just a drum they beat to drown out the process of reasonable thought. It has nothing to do with the environment per se.

randge  posted on  2010-02-05   12:01:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Ferret Mike (#46)

I listened to President Obama's long talk on his former pastor and church -- which is still on You Tube -- back when and then again last week.

As he said in it, he does not buy Wright's diatribes that are very objectionable, and it is very common an experiance for many to not agree with everything their pastor says and believes.

No sale on that point. The argument you cite was made and successfully rebuked by the president a long time ago.

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Oh,BullBarack! I KNOW you are too smart to really believe that shit. The Rev-Rund Wright is nothing more than a off-white version of David Duke,and you know it. You only excuse it because he is semi-black and your dogma demands you accept it.

That whole freaking church was nothing more than a moca Stormfront with a tax exemption.

sneakypete  posted on  2010-02-05   17:42:14 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Ferret Mike (#49)

This was paradise before Columbus, it is a nightmare here since then. Our culture has zero respect for the land, it's plants and animals.

Simple enough?

ROFLMAO! Where did you get your history education from,Disney and Karl Marx?

You obviously don't have the first bleeping clue as to the reality that existed here,including slavery,organized genocide,etc,etc,etc.

sneakypete  posted on  2010-02-05   17:45:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: James Deffenbach, Ferret Mike (#50)

He does seem to have an unusually large blind spot where his hero is concerned.

He is so dogmatic PC he married a black woman. They are divorced now,but you just KNOW they married to make a political statement.

sneakypete  posted on  2010-02-05   17:46:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Ferret Mike (#49)

Simple enough?

I'm sure you can be even simpler. Or should I say simplistic?

It is as fully simple as all the other deconstructionist and mal-thusian nonsense that we are subjected to on a regular basis from your quarter.

Lay it on. We're getting quite used it.

randge  posted on  2010-02-05   18:06:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: sneakypete (#58)

He is so dogmatic PC he married a black woman. They are divorced now,but you just KNOW they married to make a political statement.

Yeah, I imagine so. Sad that someone thinks they have to go that far to make a statement.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-05   18:26:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: scrapper2 (#53)

"Postscript: If environment is so important to you, then you should care about the very real deleterious effects of illegal immigration on our environment - excessive pollution, over use of fossil fuels, population congestion, wanton ecological destruction on the southern borders, etc, etc."

Propaganda and whinage.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-05   22:03:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Ferret Mike (#61)

Propaganda and whinage.

I didnt think so.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-02-05   22:19:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Ferret Mike (#61)

scrapper2: If environment is so important to you, then you should care about the very real deleterious effects of illegal immigration on our environment - excessive pollution, over use of fossil fuels, population congestion, wanton ecological destruction on the southern borders, etc, etc.

Ferret Mike: Propaganda and whinage.

Uh...got it...you are unable to answer my question because your pro-illegal immigration stance is in conflict with your pro-greenie position.

That's fine. Carry on.

scrapper2  posted on  2010-02-05   23:57:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: scrapper2 (#63)

Mine is a perspective of motivation for making the mess. Desperate people on the move is different to me than those despoiling out of greed.

It is a perspective of degree, size and scope of damage. On the whole, the mess they make is ugly, but easily cleaned. Not so with pollution, over building and other desecration of the landscape that is deep, persistent and permanently destroys everything.

It is a perspective of why the pollution is publicized. Namely, those publishing the pictures and whining don't give a shit about the pollution, their target is people.

I spent a long time on LP posting in good faith trying to present my belief system, opinions and views honestly in a way that contributed.

I was banned because I dared disagree with Sally that illegal immigration was the horror and crime of the era.

I am so fucking sick of whining and hair shirt fashions, and hate and ignorance in regard to immigration.

Someone does not like Mexicans, fuck them. That is my perspective. Fuck them, I am sick of the idiotic issue.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-06   0:26:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Ferret Mike (#64)

Tell us how good illegal immigration is, Mike.

"The most terrifying words in the English language are, I'm from the government and I am here to help." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1976

buckeroo  posted on  2010-02-06   0:31:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Ferret Mike (#64) (Edited)

I am so fucking sick of whining and hair shirt fashions,

Weasel, do us (Hell, do the world a favor) a favor and drink a gallon of bleach

You'll feel better, I guarantee it

Show Me Obama's Birth Certificate!

Flintlock  posted on  2010-02-06   0:43:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Ferret Mike (#46)

successfully rebuked

That is one of the most delusional comments I have ever read.


The only real restraint on gummints is people who say "live free or die" ... and mean it. - Enderby

Critter  posted on  2010-02-06   7:20:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Flintlock (#66)

Fuck your Mom.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-06   15:46:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: buckeroo (#65)

Well you like illegal immigration. I mean, if our ancestors didn't invade these contenents and destroy the cultures already here, overbreed like flies and destroy most of the land and it's plants and animals you couldn't whine at me right now very well; now could you?


Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-06   15:49:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Critter (#67)

Well Critter, he was getting heat, he rebuked it well enough to defuse the issue enough to get elected by a landslide. Perhaps by the standard of your belief system that stands as 'delusional,' but not on the basis of results.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-06   15:52:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Ferret Mike (#64)

I am so fucking sick of whining and hair shirt fashions, and hate and ignorance in regard to immigration.

You're just sick of getting your butt whipped.

Why do you hang around??

randge  posted on  2010-02-06   16:03:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: randge (#71)

Heh, Butt whipped? When did that happen? I don't go into a full bore argumentive modality because the demographic of who posts here. So I never ever feel stomped on.

I like some of the folks in here whether I agree with them or not, and I get perspective here I can't get at DU, Smirking Chimp or KOS.

That quote was from a rare vent post I have not done in here for a long time. I wouldn't take something I wrote late at night when tired with low blood sugar with ferrets out of the ferret run making attack sorties on my bare feet too seriously. I am the fire and forget sort of venter anyway.

;-D


Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-06   16:48:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Ferret Mike (#72)

Vent on, Mike.

It's still a free country of a sort.

randge  posted on  2010-02-06   16:58:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Ferret Mike, the Weasel mudboy (#68)

Fuck your Mom.

Weasel

Sorry, my Mom never screwed mudpeople, I know, I asked her.

Now, your Mom...well that was an entirely different story.

ROTFLMAO at you mudboy

Show Me Obama's Birth Certificate!

Flintlock  posted on  2010-02-06   17:45:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Ferret Mike (#64)

I am so fucking sick of whining and hair shirt fashions, and hate and ignorance in regard to immigration.

Desperate people on the move is different to me than those despoiling out of greed.

Yet you have no problem whining about water shortages and over development that is detrimental to the earth.

How noble that you make distinctions on what sore of despoiling is okay and what is not. How about those illegal aliens who commit crimes against citizens? How about those who are desperate to form gangs and sell dope?

How about Americans who are desparate to find work? Why should the desparate illegal aliens despoil opportunities for citizens to feed their families? You do realize we have 20 million out of work and about 20 million illegals in the country, right?

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-06   18:00:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Ferret Mike (#64)

Someone does not like Mexicans, fuck them.

I have a Mexican friend who's a great bass player. I asked him (just last week) why all Mexicans couldn't be like him. He laughed like it was the funniest thing he'd ever heard. Imagine if all of Compton were to be placed in Mexico and Mexicans were told that the horde in their midst were "Americans".

If this was Bush's aunt or Cheney's aunt, would Obama's army be as relaxed about the whole thing?

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2010-02-06   18:04:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: abraxas (#75)

Well you see, I look at it from a different perspective. We are all on this blue bubble of a planet together and I don't feel anyone of any nationality is better or worse than any other hairless primate wandering around on the one fifth the planet that is land.

I am only concerned with humans getting their population in check. I care to see the growth in numbers to reverse and for us to get down to a reasonable presence on this planet.

I view people whining about illegals as someone worrying about the horses getting out of the paddock and into the field through a small side gate they want shut while all the time the main gate is wide open.

All this side bar issues concerning where people go takes care of itself if humans lived in harmony with other life forms and stopped being a cancerous blight on this mud ball.

Not only that, but many of these folks are enticed into the U.S. by well capitalized and empowered people who want to play one population off on another to reduce what they pay anyone to work any job, and to reduce the threat of unionization.

And until I see people like you taking after these folks that are left alone as their connections, power and money make them a threat to anyone taking them on with at least the same vigor as the relatively powerless and poor Mexicans, you don't have a whit of sympathy from me on the issue.

I have no patience with the game of cowardly bullying people. make it a well informed, all out fight that takes on the political and business interests that encourage illegal immigration, and I suddenly would take that very serious.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-06   18:17:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Ferret Mike (#77)

but many of these folks are enticed into the U.S. by well capitalized and empowered people who want to play one population off on another to reduce what they pay anyone to work any job, and to reduce the threat of unionization.

On this, you're utterly correct. Since the beginning of the 20th century, the money powers have used population transfer (in all its forms) as a means of financing the debt of their debtor nations and as a means of political control.

The best means of population control is war as it also entails increasing the debt of the vassal states while also getting rid of those pesky nations that are onto the scam: kulaks, Muslims, Eastern European Jews (they were Jewish hillbillies in the eyes of their Zionist Bankster cousins), certain Americans, etc.

I don't fault poor ass Mexicans for being forced into their economic lot. I do fault them when they act like criminals in their host nation.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2010-02-06   18:22:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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