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Title: Fate of Obama's Aunt in Judge's Hands
Source: Fox News
URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201 ... 6:g2:r2:c0.136936:b30243392:z0
Published: Feb 4, 2010
Author: AP
Post Date: 2010-02-04 11:40:47 by scrapper2
Keywords: Obama, Obama
Views: 1501
Comments: 87

BOSTON -- President Barack Obama's African aunt is going before an immigration judge for a second time to argue she should be allowed to stay in the United States.

Kenya native Zeituni Onyango is scheduled to appear Thursday in U.S. Immigration Court in Boston.

Onyango moved to the United States in 2000. Her first asylum request was rejected. She was ordered deported in 2004. But she didn't leave the country and continued to live in public housing in Boston.

Her status as an illegal immigrant was revealed just days before Obama was elected.

Obama says he didn't know his aunt was living in the country illegally. He says laws covering the situation should be followed.

A judge agreed to reopen the asylum case.

Poster Comment:

"She was ordered deported in 2004. But she didn't leave the country and continued to live in public housing in Boston."

Obama's aunt has disregarded a deportation decision from a JUDGE and continued to live ILLEGALLY in this country for 6 years on the US TAXPAYERS' DIME. How many of us could ignore a judge and live happily ever after without paying a cent for our upkeep?

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Aren't Obama and the missus multi-millionaires?

So how come they are not financially on the hook re: Obama's aunt while she waits her 2nd court appearance to challenge the deportation order?

Why are we paying for the upkeep of this Kenyan illegal when Obama has previously admitted that she is his aunt? She is not our financial responsibility. She is her family's financial burden.

This is ridiculous. Don't the people at INS have any common sense? This moocher should have been forcibly put on a one-way flight to Kenya 6 years ago. "Asylum" my foot - since when has Kenya become a hot bed of political persecution?

scrapper2  posted on  2010-02-04   11:47:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Here's your Obama upstanding family link. Lying must be an inherited disease for him and for her.

scrapper2  posted on  2010-02-04   11:52:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I notice he is not pulling any string for her to stay and is letting the legal system relating to this take it's course.

I don't see any big controversy here. I mean, if he shows deference and helps, he would be wrong. And he might even endanger his extended family when bad people take the cue he is pulling strings and helping any of them.

I mean, because of this, I don't see him ever visiting his father's homeland again until after he exits the White House for security reasons.

His aunt is not a citizen here and likely will go back. President Obama on the other hand was born in Hawaii and is the head of the Executive Branch of the U.S. Government. He is going nowhere and should not have his citizenship questioned.

That is a dumb game that has no traction and that I never cared for.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-04   13:42:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I notice he is not pulling any string for her to stay and is letting the legal system relating to this take it's course.

Yeah,that's why she was allowed to keep drawing welfare checks and living in public housing,and then moved to another state and put up there with a high-powered lawyer sitting in the wings to defend her and act as her spokescritter.

Hell,she even managed to come up with enough money and the invitation to attend the inaugural .

sneakypete  posted on  2010-02-04   18:16:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm sorry, I like the guy, and I don't apologize for it. The personal level stuff doesn't matter to me, and it sounds like a level of relationship that breaks no laws and is not hurting anyone.

I am more concerned with the harpy he appointed to the DEA and other things he does that annoys me. I expected him to call for nuclear power if elected and I was not surprised when he did, and I oppose him on this.

I have a higher comfort level with President Obama then I did with Bush, and he so far is pretty much what expected to see. I see him working a learning curve in the job now, and see him moving toward the center as the elections get near, and he'll really do a Bill Clinton in movement if he sees the House become Republican controlled in November, though I don't expect to see this happen.

I do actually appreciate your perspectives, even when I do not agree, otherwise I would not be reading you here. Hey, if I am wrong and he really loses it, I'll live with having made an error.

All of us have been wrong in our opinions on things on these boards, it's just usually no one admite to it when this happens,

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-04   20:10:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The personal level stuff doesn't matter to me, and it sounds like a level of relationship that breaks no laws and is not hurting anyone.

Are you kidding?

This "personal stuff" involves Obama's dear auntie who btw he referenced in his autobiography - she's not a 8 degree removed cousin he doesn't know very well. Obama's auntie is a lawbreaker multiple times - immigration laws and ignoring a Judge's court decision - and he knew about it and did ZERO to encourage to get her freeloading as* back to Kenya where she belonged and was ordered to go.

As for your comment that this "personal stuff" was not hurting anyone - really? - what about hurting the US taxpayer who has supported this Medicaid Freeloading Welfare Queen for all these years and despite the fact that the Courts ordered her deportation in 2004?

The President is the highest elected officer in the USA, a nation that abides by rule of law, or so we rubes are told. By tolerating his dear auntie's lawless behavior, Obama is basically telling us that he and his family members are above the laws that everyone else in the USA is obliged to follow. Why doesn't that bother you?

And furthermore, as a columnist for the Boston Herald pointed out in an article published today, this Obama family "personal stuff" that you claim is not hurting anyone [ illegal aliens living off the dole stateside] in fact is hurting Americans greatly.

"...Aunt Zeituni’s case puts the lie to the old canard that all criminal immigrants are here to work. She gets a stipend from a city program, along with her housing. In fact, as the Center for Immigration Studies points out, illegal immigrant households are far more likely to be on the dole than the average American. She also highlights the obvious truth of the Heritage Foundation study that our 12 million illegal immigrants are a $2.2 trillion net drain on the taxpayers over the course of their lifetimes..."

news.bostonherald.com/new...ding/srvc=home&position=1

“Obama’s auntie still freeloading”

scrapper2  posted on  2010-02-04   21:11:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm sorry, but the people who hurt the original inhabitants greatly by rubbing them out to destroy the beauty and greatness of the various biomes of this Continent's crisis about immigration is just high comedy to me.

I have even lost work in the woods planting trees sooner then I wanted because of immigration from the south and I still don't give a rip. Not in the very least.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-05   10:32:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm sorry, but the people who hurt the original inhabitants greatly by rubbing them out to destroy the beauty and greatness of the various biomes of this Continent's crisis about immigration is just high comedy to me.

?????

Speak English, please.

scrapper2  posted on  2010-02-05   11:25:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

This was paradise before Columbus, it is a nightmare here since then. Our culture has zero respect for the land, it's plants and animals.

Simple enough?

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-05   11:29:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

This was paradise before Columbus, it is a nightmare here since then. Our culture has zero respect for the land, it's plants and animals.

Say what? How are the crimes of Columbus era explorers against Native American Indians relevant to the subject under discussion - ie welfare freeloading illegal immigrants like Auntie Zeituni costing American taxpayers, like you and me, $2.2 TRILLION over their lifetimes?

Postscript: If environment is so important to you, then you should care about the very real deleterious effects of illegal immigration on our environment - excessive pollution, over use of fossil fuels, population congestion, wanton ecological destruction on the southern borders, etc, etc.

scrapper2  posted on  2010-02-05   11:50:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

"Postscript: If environment is so important to you, then you should care about the very real deleterious effects of illegal immigration on our environment - excessive pollution, over use of fossil fuels, population congestion, wanton ecological destruction on the southern borders, etc, etc."

Propaganda and whinage.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-05   22:03:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

scrapper2: If environment is so important to you, then you should care about the very real deleterious effects of illegal immigration on our environment - excessive pollution, over use of fossil fuels, population congestion, wanton ecological destruction on the southern borders, etc, etc.

Ferret Mike: Propaganda and whinage.

Uh...got it...you are unable to answer my question because your pro-illegal immigration stance is in conflict with your pro-greenie position.

That's fine. Carry on.

scrapper2  posted on  2010-02-05   23:57:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Mine is a perspective of motivation for making the mess. Desperate people on the move is different to me than those despoiling out of greed.

It is a perspective of degree, size and scope of damage. On the whole, the mess they make is ugly, but easily cleaned. Not so with pollution, over building and other desecration of the landscape that is deep, persistent and permanently destroys everything.

It is a perspective of why the pollution is publicized. Namely, those publishing the pictures and whining don't give a shit about the pollution, their target is people.

I spent a long time on LP posting in good faith trying to present my belief system, opinions and views honestly in a way that contributed.

I was banned because I dared disagree with Sally that illegal immigration was the horror and crime of the era.

I am so fucking sick of whining and hair shirt fashions, and hate and ignorance in regard to immigration.

Someone does not like Mexicans, fuck them. That is my perspective. Fuck them, I am sick of the idiotic issue.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-06   0:26:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I am so fucking sick of whining and hair shirt fashions, and hate and ignorance in regard to immigration.

Desperate people on the move is different to me than those despoiling out of greed.

Yet you have no problem whining about water shortages and over development that is detrimental to the earth.

How noble that you make distinctions on what sore of despoiling is okay and what is not. How about those illegal aliens who commit crimes against citizens? How about those who are desperate to form gangs and sell dope?

How about Americans who are desparate to find work? Why should the desparate illegal aliens despoil opportunities for citizens to feed their families? You do realize we have 20 million out of work and about 20 million illegals in the country, right?

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-06   18:00:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Well you see, I look at it from a different perspective. We are all on this blue bubble of a planet together and I don't feel anyone of any nationality is better or worse than any other hairless primate wandering around on the one fifth the planet that is land.

I am only concerned with humans getting their population in check. I care to see the growth in numbers to reverse and for us to get down to a reasonable presence on this planet.

I view people whining about illegals as someone worrying about the horses getting out of the paddock and into the field through a small side gate they want shut while all the time the main gate is wide open.

All this side bar issues concerning where people go takes care of itself if humans lived in harmony with other life forms and stopped being a cancerous blight on this mud ball.

Not only that, but many of these folks are enticed into the U.S. by well capitalized and empowered people who want to play one population off on another to reduce what they pay anyone to work any job, and to reduce the threat of unionization.

And until I see people like you taking after these folks that are left alone as their connections, power and money make them a threat to anyone taking them on with at least the same vigor as the relatively powerless and poor Mexicans, you don't have a whit of sympathy from me on the issue.

I have no patience with the game of cowardly bullying people. make it a well informed, all out fight that takes on the political and business interests that encourage illegal immigration, and I suddenly would take that very serious.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-06   18:17:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Not only that, but many of these folks are enticed into the U.S. by well capitalized and empowered people who want to play one population off on another to reduce what they pay anyone to work any job, and to reduce the threat of unionization.

By virtue of supporting people being in this country ILLEGALLY to work, you support these greedy corporations you claim to despise.

You support the power play instead of support the laws of the land, just as the corporations that want cheap labor do. When you support illegals being in this country to work these jobs, you support suppressed wages for the Americans. When you support desparate illegals being in this country to work these jobs, you support non-unionization because illegals can't unionize.

Until people like you see that your bleeding heart position supports exactly what you claim to despise, you don't have a whit of sympathy from me on the issue.

I have no patience with paying for illegals. And amnesty will not even begin to address this issue. Nor will it address the 20 million Americans out of work who could use those jobs AND help bring in better wages.

BTW, I support e-verify wherein corporations pay for hiring illegals.......do you? Or do you oppose making these corporations abide by the law because they hire desparate illegals?

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-06   18:24:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#81. To: abraxas (#79)

Well, you see I planted trees and did other work in the forest up here that used to pay well. My job was taken by immigrants and this game the politicians, businessmen and bankers played pitting me against my brothers from the south has lowered the wage dramatically.

I am too damn smart to be engaged in a tail chasing game of self infuriated resentment and rage at someone who is the other side of the coin of victim hood on this situation.

I am good friends with several who were part of the early influx costing me my job and know them and their lovely families well. I don't let the power elite manipulate me into becoming a hostage to the emotions of jealousy and rage.

And I am here to tell you, that will never happen. I support amnesty too by the way.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-06 18:36:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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