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Title: Fate of Obama's Aunt in Judge's Hands
Source: Fox News
URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201 ... 6:g2:r2:c0.136936:b30243392:z0
Published: Feb 4, 2010
Author: AP
Post Date: 2010-02-04 11:40:47 by scrapper2
Keywords: Obama, Obama
Views: 891
Comments: 87

BOSTON -- President Barack Obama's African aunt is going before an immigration judge for a second time to argue she should be allowed to stay in the United States.

Kenya native Zeituni Onyango is scheduled to appear Thursday in U.S. Immigration Court in Boston.

Onyango moved to the United States in 2000. Her first asylum request was rejected. She was ordered deported in 2004. But she didn't leave the country and continued to live in public housing in Boston.

Her status as an illegal immigrant was revealed just days before Obama was elected.

Obama says he didn't know his aunt was living in the country illegally. He says laws covering the situation should be followed.

A judge agreed to reopen the asylum case.

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"She was ordered deported in 2004. But she didn't leave the country and continued to live in public housing in Boston."

Obama's aunt has disregarded a deportation decision from a JUDGE and continued to live ILLEGALLY in this country for 6 years on the US TAXPAYERS' DIME. How many of us could ignore a judge and live happily ever after without paying a cent for our upkeep?

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Aren't Obama and the missus multi-millionaires?

So how come they are not financially on the hook re: Obama's aunt while she waits her 2nd court appearance to challenge the deportation order?

Why are we paying for the upkeep of this Kenyan illegal when Obama has previously admitted that she is his aunt? She is not our financial responsibility. She is her family's financial burden.

This is ridiculous. Don't the people at INS have any common sense? This moocher should have been forcibly put on a one-way flight to Kenya 6 years ago. "Asylum" my foot - since when has Kenya become a hot bed of political persecution?

scrapper2  posted on  2010-02-04   11:47:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Here's your Obama upstanding family link. Lying must be an inherited disease for him and for her.

scrapper2  posted on  2010-02-04   11:52:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I notice he is not pulling any string for her to stay and is letting the legal system relating to this take it's course.

I don't see any big controversy here. I mean, if he shows deference and helps, he would be wrong. And he might even endanger his extended family when bad people take the cue he is pulling strings and helping any of them.

I mean, because of this, I don't see him ever visiting his father's homeland again until after he exits the White House for security reasons.

His aunt is not a citizen here and likely will go back. President Obama on the other hand was born in Hawaii and is the head of the Executive Branch of the U.S. Government. He is going nowhere and should not have his citizenship questioned.

That is a dumb game that has no traction and that I never cared for.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-04   13:42:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I notice he is not pulling any string for her to stay and is letting the legal system relating to this take it's course.

Yeah,that's why she was allowed to keep drawing welfare checks and living in public housing,and then moved to another state and put up there with a high-powered lawyer sitting in the wings to defend her and act as her spokescritter.

Hell,she even managed to come up with enough money and the invitation to attend the inaugural .

sneakypete  posted on  2010-02-04   18:16:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm sorry, I like the guy, and I don't apologize for it. The personal level stuff doesn't matter to me, and it sounds like a level of relationship that breaks no laws and is not hurting anyone.

I am more concerned with the harpy he appointed to the DEA and other things he does that annoys me. I expected him to call for nuclear power if elected and I was not surprised when he did, and I oppose him on this.

I have a higher comfort level with President Obama then I did with Bush, and he so far is pretty much what expected to see. I see him working a learning curve in the job now, and see him moving toward the center as the elections get near, and he'll really do a Bill Clinton in movement if he sees the House become Republican controlled in November, though I don't expect to see this happen.

I do actually appreciate your perspectives, even when I do not agree, otherwise I would not be reading you here. Hey, if I am wrong and he really loses it, I'll live with having made an error.

All of us have been wrong in our opinions on things on these boards, it's just usually no one admite to it when this happens,

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-04   20:10:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The personal level stuff doesn't matter to me, and it sounds like a level of relationship that breaks no laws and is not hurting anyone.

Are you kidding?

This "personal stuff" involves Obama's dear auntie who btw he referenced in his autobiography - she's not a 8 degree removed cousin he doesn't know very well. Obama's auntie is a lawbreaker multiple times - immigration laws and ignoring a Judge's court decision - and he knew about it and did ZERO to encourage to get her freeloading as* back to Kenya where she belonged and was ordered to go.

As for your comment that this "personal stuff" was not hurting anyone - really? - what about hurting the US taxpayer who has supported this Medicaid Freeloading Welfare Queen for all these years and despite the fact that the Courts ordered her deportation in 2004?

The President is the highest elected officer in the USA, a nation that abides by rule of law, or so we rubes are told. By tolerating his dear auntie's lawless behavior, Obama is basically telling us that he and his family members are above the laws that everyone else in the USA is obliged to follow. Why doesn't that bother you?

And furthermore, as a columnist for the Boston Herald pointed out in an article published today, this Obama family "personal stuff" that you claim is not hurting anyone [ illegal aliens living off the dole stateside] in fact is hurting Americans greatly.

"...Aunt Zeituni’s case puts the lie to the old canard that all criminal immigrants are here to work. She gets a stipend from a city program, along with her housing. In fact, as the Center for Immigration Studies points out, illegal immigrant households are far more likely to be on the dole than the average American. She also highlights the obvious truth of the Heritage Foundation study that our 12 million illegal immigrants are a $2.2 trillion net drain on the taxpayers over the course of their lifetimes..."

news.bostonherald.com/new...ding/srvc=home&position=1

“Obama’s auntie still freeloading”

scrapper2  posted on  2010-02-04   21:11:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm sorry, but the people who hurt the original inhabitants greatly by rubbing them out to destroy the beauty and greatness of the various biomes of this Continent's crisis about immigration is just high comedy to me.

I have even lost work in the woods planting trees sooner then I wanted because of immigration from the south and I still don't give a rip. Not in the very least.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-05   10:32:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm sorry, but the people who hurt the original inhabitants greatly by rubbing them out to destroy the beauty and greatness of the various biomes of this Continent's crisis about immigration is just high comedy to me.

?????

Speak English, please.

scrapper2  posted on  2010-02-05   11:25:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

This was paradise before Columbus, it is a nightmare here since then. Our culture has zero respect for the land, it's plants and animals.

Simple enough?

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-05   11:29:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

This was paradise before Columbus, it is a nightmare here since then. Our culture has zero respect for the land, it's plants and animals.

Say what? How are the crimes of Columbus era explorers against Native American Indians relevant to the subject under discussion - ie welfare freeloading illegal immigrants like Auntie Zeituni costing American taxpayers, like you and me, $2.2 TRILLION over their lifetimes?

Postscript: If environment is so important to you, then you should care about the very real deleterious effects of illegal immigration on our environment - excessive pollution, over use of fossil fuels, population congestion, wanton ecological destruction on the southern borders, etc, etc.

scrapper2  posted on  2010-02-05   11:50:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

"Postscript: If environment is so important to you, then you should care about the very real deleterious effects of illegal immigration on our environment - excessive pollution, over use of fossil fuels, population congestion, wanton ecological destruction on the southern borders, etc, etc."

Propaganda and whinage.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-05   22:03:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

scrapper2: If environment is so important to you, then you should care about the very real deleterious effects of illegal immigration on our environment - excessive pollution, over use of fossil fuels, population congestion, wanton ecological destruction on the southern borders, etc, etc.

Ferret Mike: Propaganda and whinage.

Uh...got it...you are unable to answer my question because your pro-illegal immigration stance is in conflict with your pro-greenie position.

That's fine. Carry on.

scrapper2  posted on  2010-02-05   23:57:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Mine is a perspective of motivation for making the mess. Desperate people on the move is different to me than those despoiling out of greed.

It is a perspective of degree, size and scope of damage. On the whole, the mess they make is ugly, but easily cleaned. Not so with pollution, over building and other desecration of the landscape that is deep, persistent and permanently destroys everything.

It is a perspective of why the pollution is publicized. Namely, those publishing the pictures and whining don't give a shit about the pollution, their target is people.

I spent a long time on LP posting in good faith trying to present my belief system, opinions and views honestly in a way that contributed.

I was banned because I dared disagree with Sally that illegal immigration was the horror and crime of the era.

I am so fucking sick of whining and hair shirt fashions, and hate and ignorance in regard to immigration.

Someone does not like Mexicans, fuck them. That is my perspective. Fuck them, I am sick of the idiotic issue.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-06   0:26:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I am so fucking sick of whining and hair shirt fashions, and hate and ignorance in regard to immigration.

Desperate people on the move is different to me than those despoiling out of greed.

Yet you have no problem whining about water shortages and over development that is detrimental to the earth.

How noble that you make distinctions on what sore of despoiling is okay and what is not. How about those illegal aliens who commit crimes against citizens? How about those who are desperate to form gangs and sell dope?

How about Americans who are desparate to find work? Why should the desparate illegal aliens despoil opportunities for citizens to feed their families? You do realize we have 20 million out of work and about 20 million illegals in the country, right?

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-06   18:00:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Well you see, I look at it from a different perspective. We are all on this blue bubble of a planet together and I don't feel anyone of any nationality is better or worse than any other hairless primate wandering around on the one fifth the planet that is land.

I am only concerned with humans getting their population in check. I care to see the growth in numbers to reverse and for us to get down to a reasonable presence on this planet.

I view people whining about illegals as someone worrying about the horses getting out of the paddock and into the field through a small side gate they want shut while all the time the main gate is wide open.

All this side bar issues concerning where people go takes care of itself if humans lived in harmony with other life forms and stopped being a cancerous blight on this mud ball.

Not only that, but many of these folks are enticed into the U.S. by well capitalized and empowered people who want to play one population off on another to reduce what they pay anyone to work any job, and to reduce the threat of unionization.

And until I see people like you taking after these folks that are left alone as their connections, power and money make them a threat to anyone taking them on with at least the same vigor as the relatively powerless and poor Mexicans, you don't have a whit of sympathy from me on the issue.

I have no patience with the game of cowardly bullying people. make it a well informed, all out fight that takes on the political and business interests that encourage illegal immigration, and I suddenly would take that very serious.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-06   18:17:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I am only concerned with humans getting their population in check

What portion of the population has the highest birthrate?

Wouldn't the population of the US be in better check with 12-20 million less people? Why aren't we allowing only highly skilled workers into our nation, as other nations do? Because people like you support the corporations hiring these "desparate" workers so that their wages can be suppressed. If population is your concern, you must be pro-war. Perhaps mother earth will provide more natural disasters to alleviate your population concerns.

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-06   18:29:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

"What portion of the population has the highest birthrate?

Wouldn't the population of the US be in better check with 12-20 million less people? Why aren't we allowing only highly skilled workers into our nation, as other nations do? Because people like you support the corporations hiring these "desperate" workers so that their wages can be suppressed. If population is your concern, you must be pro-war. Perhaps mother earth will provide more natural disasters to alleviate your population concerns."

Yes, I have taken Sociology 101 and know all about how population growth evolved in countries as they get educated and developed, and for example move toward producing goods more then just exporting raw materials.

The Earth's population bomb is everyone's problem, not just ours' or Mexico's'. And yes, we could use less people here, and I would like to see attrition by means of normal human mortality rather then by fomenting wars to kill people off.

I would also say that by going after the immigrants and not the corporations, it is the anti-immigration folks who support what the politicians, businessmen and bankers do because they are cowards and take on the easy to bully targets.

Finger point that way at me all you want, all I have to do is to hold up a mirror to show that is all you are doing on the issue yourself.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-06   18:55:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

By supporting e-verify I am doing something about those corporations, Mike. I note that you ignore that question entirely, as you do supporting these desparate people coming here to work for these corporations and suppressing wages in the process.

I finger point that what you blame others for supporting, you support yourself. You don't want these people to be documented. You wouldn't want them to lose their jobs at these corporations you claim to despise.

You continue to claim others are not going after corporations, but I have stated on three posts now that I support through action going after them.........while you offer nothing but finger pointing on this issue.

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-06   19:02:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I took part in the WTO riots in Seattle, and have been active in several advocacies that deal with what big business does. I also might add that I nearly died when I was pulled out of a tree sit protesting the building of a Nike Store locally too falling 36 feet to the pavement, suffering broken bones, skull and suffering a coma for about a week.

I refuse to get drawn into class warfare like the politicians, businessmen and bankers want be to do.

I have had hard feelings aplenty over my job loss. Fortunately for me however, I am too smart to be made into someone who does the tail chasing of the victims on the other side of the coin.

As far as what I do, I am still an activist and still politically active. I am sure I am read too by people I don't like; so I am not going to get any more specific then this in regards to what I do to pass the time of day in reference to this. Call that a cop out if you wish, it is not going to bother me.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-06   19:21:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I also might add that I nearly died when I was pulled out of a tree sit protesting the building of a Nike Store locally too falling 36 feet to the pavement, suffering broken bones, skull and suffering a coma for about a week.

How did this fiasco impact corporations one iota? Did your falling out of the tree and nearly killing yourself make NIKE turn tale and run? Or did the store open as scheduled?

I think it is much safer and far more productive to harrass your representatives regarding e-verify. Tree sitting--what has that ever accomplished other than making more money for the medical industrial complex when you nearly kill yourself?

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-06   19:32:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I would say this is distilled down into a pissing contest. I know when I was younger I sure had more hope at changing things through strong, pro-active effort then I do at age 55.

But rather then playing my activist penis is larger than yours is games, I would just rather note you do what you feel you can as do I.

One thing I do that is safe to talk about is my work as an anit-recruiter for Oregon Peaceworks. Several veterans and me go out and answer truthfully why military service is a mistake to any youngsters who care to come up to our table and ask.

I do other stuff, but there is nothing like the glow one gets when you save a young life from making the military mistake.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-06   19:40:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I would say this is distilled down into a pissing contest. I know when I was younger I sure had more hope at changing things through strong, pro-active effort then I do at age 55.

No pissing match from me. I should hope your activist penis is larger considering I have no penis to toss into the discussion.

I simply asked what your tree sitting accomplished other than contributing to the medical industrial complex. From your diversion, I will assume that the Nike Store opened on schedule.

In fact, other than addressing the specific issue of activism in relation to corporations and illegal immigration....I've not tooted my own horn at all. Meanwhile, your tales about your tree sitting and WTO sit in and arrests and such continued unabated, which all seem like pissing in the wind to me. : )

Piss on and on and on. Guess you were in a one manned pissing contest, Mike....lol.

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-06   20:11:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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