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Title: Debra Medina on KLIF after the Beck Show (YouTube)
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Post Date: 2010-02-11 23:42:19 by christine
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#53. To: christine, noone222, lod, original_intent (#0)
glenn beck says 'i dont think shes the answer for texas' 911 questions begin at minute 6:17 -------------------------- Debra Medina self-destructs on Glenn Beck radio show Texas gubernatorial candidate Debra Medina appeared on the Glenn Beck radio show this morning and made a lot of news when she wouldn't take a position on whether the US government was behind the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Center. Beck: "Rick, I think you and I could French kiss right now," he said of Texas's current governor, Rick Perry who is running for re-election. "Wow," Beck continued. "Wow. The fastest way back to four percent," he said of Medina's one-time standing in the polls. A recent survey showed her only four points behind Hutchison with 24 percent of the vote. What I meant to say was... Medina quickly put out a statement clarifying what she meant, which just so happens not to sound anything like what she said. "I was asked a question on the Glenn Beck show today regarding my thoughts on the so-called 9/11 truth movement. I have never been involved with the 9/11 truth movement, and there is no doubt in my mind that Muslim terrorists flew planes into those buildings on 9/11. I have not seen any evidence nor have I ever believed that our government was involved or directed those individuals in any way. No one can deny that the events on 9/11 were a tragedy for all Americans and especially those families who lost loved ones."
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 must see 2 minutes: GLENN BECK SAYS 9/11 TRUTHERS ARE DESTROYING AMERICA , CONTINUES FOX’S SHILL CAM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWYNG3sJViQ
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 When Beck derides truthers and birthers as dangerous people he may be guilty of inciting a riot should they become violent ... or maybe he's a prophet trying to make his prophesy come true. Or maybe he's compiling a list for his zio-nazi handlers from the e-mails he receives.
Whoever would return government to the "will of the people" must first return the United States to the use of CONSTITUTIONAL COINAGE as a medium of exchange and through it return the Constitution as law in the United States.
Beck has a point of view worth mentioning, birther and truthers are crazy. These same folks beg speculation upon inconsequential details that don't go anywhere. I there was any truth to their claims, why hasn't there been more investigations?
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
you discredit yourself with that statement. if the govt did something you think they would investigate it? and the lone nut killed JFK too, right? eegads.
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 So how does Glenn Beck square his french-kissing with Rick Perry who continues to push for a Trans-Texas Corridor?? Or Kay Hutchison continuing support for private toll roads if she becomes governor?? Or Rick Perry's slick move to force Gardasil vaccines on young girls?? Glenn Beck is a horses' ass and a complete fraud.
_________________________________________________________________________ flat world society thinking.
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
How the ef would Glenn Beck know what's the answer for Texas? Debra Medina sounds like she would make a pretty good governor to me. If I lived in Texas I would vote for her unless she has some skeletons in her closet I don't know about. What Glenn Dreck says about her would not influence me to vote against her.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Have another drink (or another fifth). You're worse off than I thought.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Nah, buck can't "discredit" himself. You have to have some credibility before you can discredit yourself. That latest statement of his, alleging that the "birthers and truthers are crazy" seems to put him in the "government can do no wrong" camp. No wonder he is always yammering on and on about Al Gore's thoroughly discredited "glowbull warming" bs.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. These same folks beg speculation upon inconsequential details that don't go anywhere. The terms birther and truther may be crazy, but the fact that people are asking questions related to 9-11 or Obama's "constitutional" legitimacy aren't crazy simply because they ask for answers to relevant questions that have serious consequences to freedom. The speculation of which you speak was Beck's speculation. Beck insinuated that anyone that doesn't believe the fairy tale spun by the witch doctors in D.C. MUST BELIEVE THAT OUR GOVERNMENT DID IT. While I do believe that elements within the CIA and MOSSAD DID DO IT and that Bush and others knew it, I wasn't the one being interviewed, Debra Medina was. Debra Medina could think that there are important questions that need to be addressed without believing that the government did it. It's really that simple.
Whoever would return government to the "will of the people" must first return the United States to the use of CONSTITUTIONAL COINAGE as a medium of exchange and through it return the Constitution as law in the United States.
ya just never know. wide world out there. ;-/
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 Medina doesn't give any credit to either of these two groups. At least can say it like it is: government has hushed up reports and deserves investigation over the same. But not you. If you can't find a birther article on WorldNetDaily, you find articles to "prove" your viewpoint written by hysterical self-important wannabes. But never any truth. Just God damned knee-slapping laughter.
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
buck, are you insane? Is the truth not the truth no matter who publishes it? I would just go ahead and bozo you but then I wouldn't see your whining and bitching about global warming and how much you hate humanity and wishing most people would die.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. don't use the name of the Lord in vain. Thanks
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 You are way too kind, my friend; way, way too kind.
Well, that was an ambush if I've ever seen one. It was a question/set up likely given to him by someone who works directly or indirectly for either Perry or Hutchinson. And is looks like Beck is still doing his level best to torpedo her campaign and to be honest, he's probably succeeded. Hutchinson and Perry are going to send out their acolytes to do their dirty work in the media and she'll have to continue defending and defining her position on this. It will be interesting to see what the polls have to say after the fact. My guess is she will drop quite a bit. The good news is, is this is not a national election. Millions probably heard the interview and immediately wrote her off because of Beck and fortunately most of them are outside the state of Texas. The only thing that matters is how Texans viewed this. If the YouTube comments are any indication, Texans like her even more now. I hate this had to come at her expense, but this is a wake up call to those like Medina who are running for office that they'd better be prepared to answer this question and expect ambushes if they get on any national media outlet like Beck in the future. It sounded to me like she was caught off guard by the question, but I thought she answered it pretty well. The only place I hear/see Beck anymore is on YouTube. It's one step forward and 10 steps backward with him. He's had good info about the Fed and he does this. Then I'm reminded why I quit listening to him in the first place. Oh yeah- read the sig line...
"What began in Russia will end in America."- 1930, Elder Ignatius of Harbin, Manchuria.
In 2006 the NYT and CBS conducted a poll about 9/11 and at that time only 16% of Americans believed the government's "official story." www.angus-reid.com/polls/view/13469 Unless things have changed radically, it would appear that the majority of Americans, including Texans, would side with Medina. Beck may have enhanced Medina's popularity not taken away from it. Postscript: Medina's popularity continues to rise even after the Beck show tempest in the teapot. Medina is overtaking Hutchinson. We live in interesting times indeed.
The question wasn't the problem, her answer was the problem.
Mister Clean: The question wasn't the problem, her answer was the problem. Medina's answer was only "a problem" to those who want the rubes to forget nagging unanswered questions about 9/11 as well as their discomfort about the gubment's whitewash official explanation. Medina is running for elected office. She - unlike Hutchison and Hairdo Perry - recognizes that elected office means that she should be RESPONSIVE to the concerns of the electorate and one of those gnawing concerns appears to be that 9/11 needs to be re-investigated. Medina's answer is reflective of the public's discontent with the story presented by gubment. As I noted in msg #70, just 4 years ago when the NYT and CBS did a poll regarding 9/11, only SIXTEEN PERCENT of Americans believed the gubment's official story. Medina's position is in line with the majority of Americans, including Texans. Beck is a flame throwing talking head entertainer. His ratings depend on generating controversy. In this case the controversy Beck created has actually generated good publicity for Medina. Not exactly what Beck had planned on happening, though he has no room to complain because the Medina controversy has also given a boost to his ratings. I don't watch or listen to Beck often. On the occasion I catch him on my car radio, he's actually kind of mesmerizing - like a goofy bowling ball in a china shop. His ratings are high, not because listeners agree with him, but rather because Beck is unpredictable. Medina got herself a ton of free publicity by being a guest on his show and handling herself in poised, direct, no BS manner.
Good for Medina. As I understand this race, anyone of the three who received 50% or more wins outright. Perry is at 45% (+/-). A failure to do 50% places the 1st and 2nd place candidates in a runoff in April. If Medina can beat Hutchison (she's within the margin of error) it's Perry & Medina and lots o' fun for a month :P
{{{applaud}}} and we know Mister Clean is one of those.
Six and a half years after the tragic events of September 11, 2001, many conspiracy theories exist as to what really happened that day. Tonight on the program we welcome Barrie Zwicker, media critic and author of "Towers of Deception: The Media Cover-Up of 9/11." Zwicker is a self-professed 9/11 "truther" and very proud to be part of the 9/11 Truth Movement. Another group that doesn't believe the U.S. government's official report on what happened on 9/11 is the Scholars for 9/11 Truth. Zwicker, and members of these groups, are not few and far between. A piece from The Nation magazine in December 2006 cited a July 2006 poll conducted by Scripps News Service that found that "one-third of Americans think the government either carried out the 9/11 attacks or intentionally allowed them to happen in order to provide a pretext for war in the Middle East." I was suprised to find that so many people believe their own government was responsible for the deaths of thousands of Americans. What makes people question events like 9/11, the Kennedy assassination, and the death of Princess Diana? Are these larger than life events and people not worthy of the explanations of their demise? Is it too far-fetched to believe that a lone gunman could have killed President Kennedy? While I do believe that terrorists were behind the attacks in America on September 11, 2001, conspiracy theories out there - mainly online - force you to ask questions. The Pentagon has released a video of a plane hitting the building. Please watch it. I'd love to know what you think about it. Other online productions such as Zeitgeist and Loose Change have become cult- like success stories. Zeitgeist, as I write this blog post, is the number one ranked video on Google Video, not only in Canada, but in the entire world. It attacks Christianity, the offical account of 9/11, and the Federal Reserve System. Have you seen Zeitgeist and/or Loose Change? What did you think? In both cases, I heard about the videos through word of mouth. On YouTube, Zeitgeist has been viewed hundreds and thousands of times. The correlation between the power of the internet and the spread of conspiracy thinking cannot be ignored. Do you think society craves conspiracy thinking? If so, why? What is it about conspiracy thinking and conspiracy theories that is letting them thrive today? What are your thoughts on 9/11? Do you believe the official story from the U.S. government and the 9/11 Commission?
How can Beck scream about "questioning" authority on every issue except Obama's Birth Cert or 9-11 ??? Is he an Obama supporter ??? I've listened to him for a long time and I'd say he IS an Obama supporter to a certain extent (as a right gatekeeper). By that, I mean Obama was the selection this past election cycle and the so- called conservative talk pundits did their jobs by getting rid of Ron Paul and keeping the likes of John McNeedsaCane in the race.
Whoever would return government to the "will of the people" must first return the United States to the use of CONSTITUTIONAL COINAGE as a medium of exchange and through it return the Constitution as law in the United States.
We need to get the Truther stigma turned around. I am proud to want to learn the truth wherever it is to be found. I try to be truthful and honest in all my affairs. Is there anyone here who believes differently? Thanks.
What are your thoughts on 9/11? Do you believe the official story from the U.S. government and the 9/11 Commission? Conspiracy theories abound because conspiracies are plentiful. Conspiracies thrive today because law enforcement are busied shaking down little old ladies or enforcing non-crimes while the real culprits are legislating to make their illegal activities - legal / or taking bribes to make their lobbyist friend's crimes - legal. [Hitler is a known criminal but everything he did was legal]. My actual thoughts are that certain factions within and without the U.S. Government did it and continue to cover it up. I also believe that people within the government charged with investigating events such as 9-11 are hesitant to do their jobs, fearing repurcussions. Further, I think the controlling voices in media (operation mockingbird) are all owned by the CIA or whomever they actually work for.
Whoever would return government to the "will of the people" must first return the United States to the use of CONSTITUTIONAL COINAGE as a medium of exchange and through it return the Constitution as law in the United States.
I am proud to want to learn the truth wherever it is to be found. I try to be truthful and honest in all my affairs. Is there anyone here who believes differently? Nope ... not me. I believe the same as you do. I think far more people recognized what Beck was doing to Medina than Beck's handlers or even Beck himself considered. He screwed the pooch.
Whoever would return government to the "will of the people" must first return the United States to the use of CONSTITUTIONAL COINAGE as a medium of exchange and through it return the Constitution as law in the United States.
noone: How can Beck scream about "questioning" authority on every issue except Obama's Birth Cert or 9-11 ??? Is he an Obama supporter ??? I've listened to him for a long time and I'd say he IS an Obama supporter to a certain extent (as a right gatekeeper). By that, I mean Obama was the selection this past election cycle and the so- called conservative talk pundits did their jobs by getting rid of Ron Paul and keeping the likes of John McNeedsaCane in the race. I don't listen to Beck often enough to answer your questions with any authority. I will say this though. I personally would never associate myself with the Birther or 9/11 Truther movements. Both have been corrupted by disinformation agents. Look who is a leading figure in the Birther movement - a dentist turned lawyer former real estate agent and full fledged Zionist, Orly Taitz. Shish. Orly Taitz has damaged the credibility of the Birther movement beyond repair. Read this haaretz interview with Orly the Magic Lawyer and you'll see what I mean: www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1108 110.html
full transcript: http://www.g lennbeck.com/content/articles/article/196/36197/
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#54. To: All, noone222 (#53)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#55. To: Artisan (#54)
#56. To: noone222 (#55)
When Beck derides truthers and birthers as dangerous people
#57. To: buckeroo (#56)
Beck has a point of view worth mentioning, birther and truthers are crazy
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#58. To: Artisan (#53)
glenn beck says 'i dont think shes the answer for texas'
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#59. To: Artisan (#57)
if the govt
#60. To: Artisan (#53)
glenn beck says 'i dont think shes the answer for texas'
Lord Acton
#61. To: buckeroo (#56)
Beck has a point of view worth mentioning, birther and truthers are crazy. These same folks beg speculation upon inconsequential details that don't go anywhere. I there was any truth to their claims, why hasn't there been more investigations?
Lord Acton
#62. To: Artisan, buckeroo (#57)
you discredit yourself with that statement. if the govt did something you think they would investigate it? and the lone nut killed JFK too, right? eegads.
Lord Acton
#63. To: buckeroo (#56)
Beck has a point of view worth mentioning, birther and truthers are crazy.
#64. To: James Deffenbach (#62)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#65. To: James Deffenbach (#62)
#66. To: buckeroo (#65)
Lord Acton
#67. To: buckeroo (#65)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#68. To: X-15 (#58)
Glenn Beck is a horse's ass and a complete fraud.
#69. To: all (#68)
#70. To: scooter (#69)
(Edited)
It will be interesting to see what the polls have to say after the fact. My guess is she will drop quite a bit. The good news is, is this is not a national election. Millions probably heard the interview and immediately wrote her off because of Beck and fortunately most of them are outside the state of Texas. The only thing that matters is how Texans viewed this. If the YouTube comments are any indication, Texans like her even more now.
#71. To: scooter (#69)
It was a question/set up likely given to him by someone who works directly or indirectly for either Perry or Hutchinson.
#72. To: Mister Clean, scooter (#71)
scooter: It was a question/set up likely given to him by someone who works directly or indirectly for either Perry or Hutchinson.
#73. To: scrapper2, all (#70)
#74. To: scrapper2 (#72)
Medina's answer was only "a problem" to those who want the rubes to forget nagging unanswered questions about 9/11 as well as their discomfort about the gubment's whitewash official explanation.
#75. To: scrapper2 (#72)
www.tvo.org/cfmx/tvoorg/t...&post_id=6884&blog_id=323
#76. To: scrapper2 (#72)
Beck is a flame throwing talking head entertainer. His ratings depend on generating controversy.
#77. To: noone222, Truthers, all (#76)
#78. To: christine (#75)
Do you think society craves conspiracy thinking? If so, why? What is it about conspiracy thinking and conspiracy theories that is letting them thrive today?
#79. To: Lod (#77)
We need to get the Truther stigma turned around.
#80. To: noone222 (#76)
scrapper: Beck is a flame throwing talking head entertainer. His ratings depend on generating controversy.
Orly Taitz: Obama policies are 'clear and present danger to Israel':The driving force behind the 'birther' movement has found her star is rising in Israel.
As for the Truther movement, here's a website that shows how the Truther movement has also been irreparably compromised.
www.truthmove.org/content/disinformation/
I'm not justifying Beck's cheap shot baiting of Dr. Paul and Medina. But I am saying that I can understand why Beck has not aligned himself with Truthers or Birthers. I wouldn't either. And it has nothing to do with being afraid to question authority. It has more to do with common sense and protecting one's career from being tainted by clearly "damaged goods."
Anyways, I think Medina handled Beck's questions perfectly. She stated that questions remain unanswered about 9/11 - which is fact - Medina's response mirrored the 86% of Americans who disbelieve the gubment's official story - and she did not bite Beck's bait by going on at length about what those questions might be. She answered his question directly and then matter-of-factly pointed out to Beck that his focus of questions had veered off topic because he said the interview was supposed to be about getting to know Medina's Governor campaign positions and 9/11 was outside the purview of state governors' responsibilities.
#81. To: James Deffenbach (#61)
Sorry, I am not a crap player; you figured the wrong man.
Have another drink (or another fifth). You're worse off than I thought.
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
#82. To: James Deffenbach (#66)
I guess taking an assuming a glimpse at your piss-poor posts as me begging about the world is my personal fault/ Hey! ... do you know how to do personal knickers, ensuring you really know the ideas of individual freedoms?
are you insane?
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
#83. To: Artisan (#67)
Such a nice detail. And where have you seen otherwise?
don't use the name of the Lord in vain. Thanks
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
#84. To: buckeroo (#82)
I deduce there is a question in there somewhere since there is a question mark at the end of it. Want to try again and use English this time?
I guess taking an assuming a glimpse at your piss-poor posts as me begging about the world is my personal fault/ Hey! ... do you know how to do personal knickers, ensuring you really know the ideas of individual freedoms?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#85. To: Lod (#77)
I am proud to want to learn the truth wherever it is to be found. I try to be truthful and honest in all my affairs. Is there anyone here who believes differently? I agree with you 100%. I don't feel stigmatized when someone calls me a "truther." I believe in being honest and believe in other people being honest with me. And I don't believe the official account of what happened on 9/11. To me, that (the official explanation) is the wackiest conspiracy theory I ever heard.
We need to get the Truther stigma turned around.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#86. To: James Deffenbach (#84)
Yeah... and here you are ensuring the love of "birthers" and God only knows what the HELL you want to ensure a stable America. What do you do besides eating a McDonalds cheesesburger on a Saturday evening? Nice fries and a strawberry shake?
Want to try again and use English this time?
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
#87. To: buckeroo (#86)
Well, let's see--tonight I had fraldinha, some rice and black beans, some home fries that I did myself, etc. No strawberry shake and no McDonald's anything. Guess I leave the crap to you.
What do you do besides eating a McDonalds cheesesburger on a Saturday evening? Nice fries and a strawberry shake?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#88. To: James Deffenbach (#87)
Yeah, and no matter what you eat the calories went to your fat fat head believing in "truthers" and "birthers." You don't have your eye on the ball believing in common gossip.
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
#89. To: noone222 (#63)
You are defending "keeping your eye off the ball" by lack of fact and plenty of fiction. Both the birther and truther movements have helped lose America. Since 2001, America has subdued more personal rights while our mutual and respective tax base(s) have gone up. I might add, the nation is near dead because of poor government and petty political nuisances nothing to do with birthers or truthers.
The terms birther and truther may be crazy, but the fact that people are asking questions related to 9-11 or Obama's "constitutional" legitimacy aren't crazy simply because they ask for answers to relevant questions that have serious consequences to freedom.
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
#90. To: buckeroo, noone222 (#89)
Since 2001, America has subdued more personal rights while our mutual and respective tax base(s) have gone up. I might add, the nation is near dead because of poor government and petty political nuisances nothing to do with birthers or truthers. You are defending "keeping your eye off the ball" by lack of fact and plenty of fiction. Both the birther and truther movements have helped lose America.
"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831
#91. To: buckeroo (#89)
yeah, Buck, try saying that to the families of the 9/11 victims who want answers and not that sham of an investigation offered up by the perps...and, by the way, in 2006 the NYT and CBS conducted a poll about 9/11 and at that time only 16% of Americans believed the government's "official story." Both the birther and truther movements have helped lose America.
#92. To: farmfriend (#90)
"Well, Aren't We Just A Ray of Fucking Sunshine"
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
#93. To: buckeroo (#92)
LOL
"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831
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