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Title: Debra Medina on KLIF after the Beck Show (YouTube)
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Post Date: 2010-02-11 23:42:19 by christine
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I just sent a polite e-mail to my local radio station that carries Glenn Beck asking them to cancel Glenn Beck due to his vicious attack on Debra Medina and bring back G. Gordon Liddy to the DFW airwaves (he used to be on this station in the 1990's).
_________________________________________________________________________ good. thank you.
I need some help here. What happened? Who is she? Did Beck do/say something in addition to this? I'm not a Beck apologist by any means. In all sincerity, I don't understand what's going on/what happened. Thanks!!
"What began in Russia will end in America."- 1930, Elder Ignatius of Harbin, Manchuria.
I liked Medina's answer - it was right on for me --- the government is not giving us the "whole truth" on 9/11 (of course they are hiding all questions involving Israel). She is right to question the government. However, I thought that the radio guy who was interviewing Medina, was not honest and that he twisted her response. He made it sound like she was not questioning the "whole" official story.
Glenn, Your treatment of Debra Medina yesterday was an abomination quite similar to the hatchet job you did on Ron Paul prior to the Republican primaries. Talking out of both sides of your foul mouth has become your modus operandi. I knew you were prepping for a throat slitting when after she had described herself once, you asked her to describe herself again, looking for an openning, a chance to sucker punch an inexperienced political candidate that doesn't fit the two party joke that pays asshats like you and your crew of laughing hyenas. I thought Debra held her own as an ordinary citizen being attacked by a media snake such as yourself. She opted for the people's RIGHT to question the government, as you disingenuously espouse on a regular basis, especially with regard to 9-11, where 3000 people were murdered and so many questions have gone unanswered or not even addressed. (Like why did building 7 fall into its own footprint without having been hit by an airplane at all / no black boxes / a complete stand down of NORAD / Pentagon Plane in the air 88 minutes prior to impact / 15 "drills" simulating an attack by aircraft at the exact same time and place as 9-11 was taking place ?) It seems like you might have an inexplicable obsession with discrediting truthers and birthers or anyone that simply asks real questions about 9-11 or the Constitutional (natural born citizen) requirements be proven by a man that has hidden his entire past from public scrutiny and yet sits in the White House. Are you anti-constitution now, Glenn ? America didn't get where it is today because the government AND THE MEDIA were honest with us. I have been somewhat of an apologist for your shortcomings like attacking birthers, truthers and Ron Paul, because I thought it expedient to have your voice pointing out the unconstitutional treason taking place in America, but those days are over. You have inserted yourself into Texas politics again intending to de-rail Debra Medina. I smell a rat, Beck, and it's you. I'll close by telling you that your puppet masters have made another mistake in judgment by trying to use the truther argument against Debra Medina, who has never spoken publicly about the truth of 9-11. Personally, I don't think Medina should back away from the fact that a real investigation and report are owed the American people and not another Warren Report whitewash. You have under estimated the American people, and hopefully it will be your undoing. You are a wolf in sheep's clothing, Beck, and America cannot afford your ilk if it wants to be free again. Doug Scheidt
Whoever would return government to the "will of the people" must first return the United States to the use of CONSTITUTIONAL COINAGE as a medium of exchange and through it return the Constitution as law in the United States.
I think she handled that interview very well. Thanks for the ping.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. That was a great letter.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Thanks JD. Beck's constant attack on truthers, birthers and anti-establishment or 3rd party candidates should make it clear that he's one of the bad guys.
Whoever would return government to the "will of the people" must first return the United States to the use of CONSTITUTIONAL COINAGE as a medium of exchange and through it return the Constitution as law in the United States.
I can guarantee you that G. Gordon Liddy, wherever he is, is loving the Beck attack if he's heard of it. There is no more fierce neocon warmonger on the planet outside of Israel than Mr. Liddy.
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
I have no use for Beck. I will admit that I used to watch his show sometimes, but I haven't watched him in a good while. His antics are a bit over the top and makes me doubt his sincerity and his attacks on good people leave me cold.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. You would think that is where* they would put him judging by his antics of the last year or two. *in a nutshell.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. The Faux News Fakers are running full speed ahead in an attempt to blind side the grass roots effort to dethrone the oligarchs and plutocrats. Malkin, O'Reilly, Beck, Hannity, Palin, Morris, Gingrich, and North are all pretending to support conservative ideals but are in fact supporting the status quo.
Whoever would return government to the "will of the people" must first return the United States to the use of CONSTITUTIONAL COINAGE as a medium of exchange and through it return the Constitution as law in the United States.
Me too !!!
Whoever would return government to the "will of the people" must first return the United States to the use of CONSTITUTIONAL COINAGE as a medium of exchange and through it return the Constitution as law in the United States.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
LimpJaw doesn't work for FAUX NEWS ... the others do ! (That's why I left him out !)
Whoever would return government to the "will of the people" must first return the United States to the use of CONSTITUTIONAL COINAGE as a medium of exchange and through it return the Constitution as law in the United States.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
I've been "off" of Limp-Jaw since the very early 90's ... the only benefit that Limbaugh supplies is that occasionally someone becomes interested enough to begin their own determined investigation.
Whoever would return government to the "will of the people" must first return the United States to the use of CONSTITUTIONAL COINAGE as a medium of exchange and through it return the Constitution as law in the United States.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
Well said. Well done. My email to him was far briefer but it expressed a similar disdain for his treatment of Medina. After listening to the beginning of his show, he was flooded with them. It's very possible this ambush backfired badly. PS: Hutchinson is running an ad in TX saying Beck supports her. Go figure.
Great ... he deserves an e-mail from every American expressing the same disdain and I hope you're right concerning the "backfire" !
Whoever would return government to the "will of the people" must first return the United States to the use of CONSTITUTIONAL COINAGE as a medium of exchange and through it return the Constitution as law in the United States.
All hypocrites !!! Hutchinson is also running ads badmouthing Perry on the NAFTA HIGHWAY / Trans Texas Corridor that Michael (the Russian Jew commie) Medved has been denying for years !!!
Whoever would return government to the "will of the people" must first return the United States to the use of CONSTITUTIONAL COINAGE as a medium of exchange and through it return the Constitution as law in the United States.
I totally concur.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" www.medinafortexas.com/ freedom4um.com/cgi- bin/re...ArtNum=114526&Disp=24#C24 (listen to the youtube iitl posted in #24 to hear the interview)
your letter to beck. A+++
Thanks (blushing) !
Whoever would return government to the "will of the people" must first return the United States to the use of CONSTITUTIONAL COINAGE as a medium of exchange and through it return the Constitution as law in the United States.
Well done up there. Are there no micro-broadcasters in the area? Yesterday was the first time I'd ever heard dreck's radio show, and don't even know if it airs here.
Brilliant letter from the High Plains - thanks for sharing it here.
Nice!
Anyone who listens (and believes) to dreck, is one fry short of a Happy Meal.
I have Beck on in the background at present and he just said about Medina that "I've never witnessed anyone end their political career firsthand, but Medina might have ended her career on this show yesterday."
We'll see - I'm sure that someone's polling the populace as we type.
Beck is a Denier. When one denies that Israel is at the center of our foreign policy & it's war machine, they become NTBT - not to be trusted.
100pc true. In fact, they have to conspire to deny, or withhold the truth from the mullets.
Thanks Lod, ... Go Medina !!!
Whoever would return government to the "will of the people" must first return the United States to the use of CONSTITUTIONAL COINAGE as a medium of exchange and through it return the Constitution as law in the United States.
Methinks Beck will be humbled ! Truth will out !
Whoever would return government to the "will of the people" must first return the United States to the use of CONSTITUTIONAL COINAGE as a medium of exchange and through it return the Constitution as law in the United States.
You're both correct there. I like G. Gordon Liddy because he treats his guests like "Guests" and engages in good conversation without getting hysterical like Glenn Beck does. I also like his views on guns and listening to his old war- stories from his FBI days.
_________________________________________________________________________ The ones I've found aren't interesting, they're fairly NPR-ish and all ate up with multi-culturalism and "community activism" of the Obummer variety.
_________________________________________________________________________ Here's the reply I got from 570 KLIF: "Good morning, Mike, Thank you for your message about Beck’s ambush of Debra Medina. I hope that you are/were listening to Jeff Bolton this morning as he railed against Glenn Beck for his unnecessary attack. I’ve encouraged Jeff to take off the gloves and tell it like he sees it! Over the next few days I will have discussions with our management team to determine our range of options in dealing with the events of yesterday. (my bold-type - X-15) In the meantime, I hope that you will continue to listen to 570 KLIF at the times you find appropriate. Thank You for listening! Steve"
_________________________________________________________________________ Read his bio and you will understand his being hysterical. The man is a bomb with a short fuse sitting on a keg of dynamite.
Jeff to take off the gloves and tell it like he sees it! wow, excellent.
Jeff Bolton's bio: As a dynamic, nationally recognized talk radio show host in his third year at the Legendary 570 KLIF in Dallas, Jeff offers a vibrant Middle American perspective on both local and national issues with a combination of independent thought, scathing humor and a tireless commitment to broadcasting "on the scene" where news and talk collide. Not content with sitting in the studio seat and pontificating, Bolton has been nationally recognized and honored for his international groundbreaking talk radio broadcasts from Iraq, Afghanistan and Sri Lanka, and for his national broadcasts from New York after 9-11 and New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina. In 2003, he was the first talk show host in America to broadcast full-length talk shows from the Middle East war zones, and also completed the first ever live talk radio broadcasts at sea with the U.S. Navy aboard the aircraft carrier Carl Vinson. In 2006, Jeff took 570 KLIF listeners into the deserts and cities of Iraq for an extraordinary two weeks of broadcasts. Jeff is a proud Texan, born and raised in Mesquite, Emory and Garland. He is the only adopted (and spoiled) son of Travis and Neta Bolton, who have been nominated for sainthood. After graduating from South Garland High School in 1982, Bolton attended Texas A&M for two years before transferring to Southern Methodist University in Dallas where he earned a BFA in 1986. A husband and father, Jeff and his wife Blaine have been married for 18 yrs and have two children: Evan, 13 and Rachel, 11. Bolton established his talk radio career at legendary stations 1200 WOAI-AM in San Antonio, Texas and 1110 KFAB-AM in Omaha, Nebraska. He has been seen and heard nationally as a host and guest on hundreds of talk radio programs across America including The Rush Limbaugh Program, The Sean Hannity Show, The Glenn Beck Program, The Savage Nation, The Rusty Humphries Show and The Jerry Doyle Show. He has also appeared on the NBC, FOX, and MSNBC television networks. With television, radio and print as launching pads for his philanthropic efforts, Jeff has helped raise hundreds of thousands of dollars for charities including the Freedom's Family Fund for military families, Operation Comfort and Defenders of Freedom for wounded military members, Easter Seals and Make-A- Wish. Jeff loves to talk – to old people, young people and everyone in between – book him to speak to your group filling out the contact form on the top left side of this page. Jeff also recently completed a 90-minute documentary titled America's Marine Aviators for PBS that tells the story of one of America's smallest and most valiant fighting forces. He is one of the few civilians in the world to complete the U.S. Navy's grueling water survival training program for pilots, enabling him to fly front line military aircraft at sea in the carrier environment with the Navy and Marine Corps. Bolton has flown in more than twenty current and vintage fixed and rotary wing combat aircraft including the FA-18D Hornet, the AV-8B Harrier, the F-16 Viper and the EA-6B Prowler and has completed carrier deployments at sea with multiple catapult launches and arrested landings. As a writer and photographer, Jeff has produced newspaper and magazine features from the seats of Ferraris and fighters for publications such as MediaNews Group Inc., Wings of Gold, The Hook and SMOKE magazine. Jeff is heard exclusively on Talk Radio 570 KLIF, weekdays from 5:00am to 9:00am.
A most impressive bio - thank you. (Back when, KLIF, was a rock station: we were listening on our HS lunch-break when programming was interrupted on November 22, 1963.)
Hope you don't mind but I used a good bit of your letter in my letter to Beck. I added a bit to it (about WTC 7 and how no steel skyscraper had ever fallen due to fire before or since 9/11) and a few other things. Here is the email I got back, guess you got one just like it: "Thanks so much for the email. Due to the volume of mail this may be the only response you see. While I do not always see it in a timely fashion I do try to read all of my mail. However, I average over 4000 letters a day and there is no way I can respond to most letters. I am glad you are watching/listening and even though you may not see a response, I want you to know that I am listening as well." Thanks, Glenn Beck P.S. To keep up with everything that's happening on the show, make sure you're signed up for my free email newsletter. Sign up here: http://www.glennbeck.com/content/newsletter/signup Yeah, right. I won't be signing up for any agitprop from someone who is in bed with the establishment.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. But did you click on the ProFlowers link and use "Beck666" for your special Patriotic American discount???
_________________________________________________________________________ uh....no. And if Beck is what is regarded as a "Patriotic American" with all the un-American shenanigans he has pulled lately, I guess I am not one.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Thanks, Glenn Beck P.S. To keep up with everything that's happening on the show, make sure you're signed up for my free email newsletter. Sign up here: www.glennbeck.com/content/newsletter/signup Yeah, I got the same response ... in less time than it would take to read the original e-mail. Hahaha !!
Whoever would return government to the "will of the people" must first return the United States to the use of CONSTITUTIONAL COINAGE as a medium of exchange and through it return the Constitution as law in the United States.
ha ha. 'she hasn't seen such evidence', but it's ok to ask questions. pat ron paul type response. she gave a pretty good answer. plus, she didnt want to alienate what SHE KNOWS is her true support base. look what this guy says about 9/11, depending on what the weather is, i guess. ;- ) "if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 glenn beck says 'i dont think shes the answer for texas' 911 questions begin at minute 6:17 -------------------------- Debra Medina self-destructs on Glenn Beck radio show Texas gubernatorial candidate Debra Medina appeared on the Glenn Beck radio show this morning and made a lot of news when she wouldn't take a position on whether the US government was behind the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Center. Beck: "Rick, I think you and I could French kiss right now," he said of Texas's current governor, Rick Perry who is running for re-election. "Wow," Beck continued. "Wow. The fastest way back to four percent," he said of Medina's one-time standing in the polls. A recent survey showed her only four points behind Hutchison with 24 percent of the vote. What I meant to say was... Medina quickly put out a statement clarifying what she meant, which just so happens not to sound anything like what she said. "I was asked a question on the Glenn Beck show today regarding my thoughts on the so-called 9/11 truth movement. I have never been involved with the 9/11 truth movement, and there is no doubt in my mind that Muslim terrorists flew planes into those buildings on 9/11. I have not seen any evidence nor have I ever believed that our government was involved or directed those individuals in any way. No one can deny that the events on 9/11 were a tragedy for all Americans and especially those families who lost loved ones."
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 must see 2 minutes: GLENN BECK SAYS 9/11 TRUTHERS ARE DESTROYING AMERICA , CONTINUES FOX’S SHILL CAM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWYNG3sJViQ
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 When Beck derides truthers and birthers as dangerous people he may be guilty of inciting a riot should they become violent ... or maybe he's a prophet trying to make his prophesy come true. Or maybe he's compiling a list for his zio-nazi handlers from the e-mails he receives.
Whoever would return government to the "will of the people" must first return the United States to the use of CONSTITUTIONAL COINAGE as a medium of exchange and through it return the Constitution as law in the United States.
Beck has a point of view worth mentioning, birther and truthers are crazy. These same folks beg speculation upon inconsequential details that don't go anywhere. I there was any truth to their claims, why hasn't there been more investigations?
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
you discredit yourself with that statement. if the govt did something you think they would investigate it? and the lone nut killed JFK too, right? eegads.
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 So how does Glenn Beck square his french-kissing with Rick Perry who continues to push for a Trans-Texas Corridor?? Or Kay Hutchison continuing support for private toll roads if she becomes governor?? Or Rick Perry's slick move to force Gardasil vaccines on young girls?? Glenn Beck is a horses' ass and a complete fraud.
_________________________________________________________________________ flat world society thinking.
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
How the ef would Glenn Beck know what's the answer for Texas? Debra Medina sounds like she would make a pretty good governor to me. If I lived in Texas I would vote for her unless she has some skeletons in her closet I don't know about. What Glenn Dreck says about her would not influence me to vote against her.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Have another drink (or another fifth). You're worse off than I thought.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Nah, buck can't "discredit" himself. You have to have some credibility before you can discredit yourself. That latest statement of his, alleging that the "birthers and truthers are crazy" seems to put him in the "government can do no wrong" camp. No wonder he is always yammering on and on about Al Gore's thoroughly discredited "glowbull warming" bs.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. These same folks beg speculation upon inconsequential details that don't go anywhere. The terms birther and truther may be crazy, but the fact that people are asking questions related to 9-11 or Obama's "constitutional" legitimacy aren't crazy simply because they ask for answers to relevant questions that have serious consequences to freedom. The speculation of which you speak was Beck's speculation. Beck insinuated that anyone that doesn't believe the fairy tale spun by the witch doctors in D.C. MUST BELIEVE THAT OUR GOVERNMENT DID IT. While I do believe that elements within the CIA and MOSSAD DID DO IT and that Bush and others knew it, I wasn't the one being interviewed, Debra Medina was. Debra Medina could think that there are important questions that need to be addressed without believing that the government did it. It's really that simple.
Whoever would return government to the "will of the people" must first return the United States to the use of CONSTITUTIONAL COINAGE as a medium of exchange and through it return the Constitution as law in the United States.
ya just never know. wide world out there. ;-/
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 Medina doesn't give any credit to either of these two groups. At least can say it like it is: government has hushed up reports and deserves investigation over the same. But not you. If you can't find a birther article on WorldNetDaily, you find articles to "prove" your viewpoint written by hysterical self-important wannabes. But never any truth. Just God damned knee-slapping laughter.
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
buck, are you insane? Is the truth not the truth no matter who publishes it? I would just go ahead and bozo you but then I wouldn't see your whining and bitching about global warming and how much you hate humanity and wishing most people would die.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. don't use the name of the Lord in vain. Thanks
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 You are way too kind, my friend; way, way too kind.
Well, that was an ambush if I've ever seen one. It was a question/set up likely given to him by someone who works directly or indirectly for either Perry or Hutchinson. And is looks like Beck is still doing his level best to torpedo her campaign and to be honest, he's probably succeeded. Hutchinson and Perry are going to send out their acolytes to do their dirty work in the media and she'll have to continue defending and defining her position on this. It will be interesting to see what the polls have to say after the fact. My guess is she will drop quite a bit. The good news is, is this is not a national election. Millions probably heard the interview and immediately wrote her off because of Beck and fortunately most of them are outside the state of Texas. The only thing that matters is how Texans viewed this. If the YouTube comments are any indication, Texans like her even more now. I hate this had to come at her expense, but this is a wake up call to those like Medina who are running for office that they'd better be prepared to answer this question and expect ambushes if they get on any national media outlet like Beck in the future. It sounded to me like she was caught off guard by the question, but I thought she answered it pretty well. The only place I hear/see Beck anymore is on YouTube. It's one step forward and 10 steps backward with him. He's had good info about the Fed and he does this. Then I'm reminded why I quit listening to him in the first place. Oh yeah- read the sig line...
"What began in Russia will end in America."- 1930, Elder Ignatius of Harbin, Manchuria.
In 2006 the NYT and CBS conducted a poll about 9/11 and at that time only 16% of Americans believed the government's "official story." www.angus-reid.com/polls/view/13469 Unless things have changed radically, it would appear that the majority of Americans, including Texans, would side with Medina. Beck may have enhanced Medina's popularity not taken away from it. Postscript: Medina's popularity continues to rise even after the Beck show tempest in the teapot. Medina is overtaking Hutchinson. We live in interesting times indeed.
The question wasn't the problem, her answer was the problem.
Mister Clean: The question wasn't the problem, her answer was the problem. Medina's answer was only "a problem" to those who want the rubes to forget nagging unanswered questions about 9/11 as well as their discomfort about the gubment's whitewash official explanation. Medina is running for elected office. She - unlike Hutchison and Hairdo Perry - recognizes that elected office means that she should be RESPONSIVE to the concerns of the electorate and one of those gnawing concerns appears to be that 9/11 needs to be re-investigated. Medina's answer is reflective of the public's discontent with the story presented by gubment. As I noted in msg #70, just 4 years ago when the NYT and CBS did a poll regarding 9/11, only SIXTEEN PERCENT of Americans believed the gubment's official story. Medina's position is in line with the majority of Americans, including Texans. Beck is a flame throwing talking head entertainer. His ratings depend on generating controversy. In this case the controversy Beck created has actually generated good publicity for Medina. Not exactly what Beck had planned on happening, though he has no room to complain because the Medina controversy has also given a boost to his ratings. I don't watch or listen to Beck often. On the occasion I catch him on my car radio, he's actually kind of mesmerizing - like a goofy bowling ball in a china shop. His ratings are high, not because listeners agree with him, but rather because Beck is unpredictable. Medina got herself a ton of free publicity by being a guest on his show and handling herself in poised, direct, no BS manner.
Good for Medina. As I understand this race, anyone of the three who received 50% or more wins outright. Perry is at 45% (+/-). A failure to do 50% places the 1st and 2nd place candidates in a runoff in April. If Medina can beat Hutchison (she's within the margin of error) it's Perry & Medina and lots o' fun for a month :P
{{{applaud}}} and we know Mister Clean is one of those.
Six and a half years after the tragic events of September 11, 2001, many conspiracy theories exist as to what really happened that day. Tonight on the program we welcome Barrie Zwicker, media critic and author of "Towers of Deception: The Media Cover-Up of 9/11." Zwicker is a self-professed 9/11 "truther" and very proud to be part of the 9/11 Truth Movement. Another group that doesn't believe the U.S. government's official report on what happened on 9/11 is the Scholars for 9/11 Truth. Zwicker, and members of these groups, are not few and far between. A piece from The Nation magazine in December 2006 cited a July 2006 poll conducted by Scripps News Service that found that "one-third of Americans think the government either carried out the 9/11 attacks or intentionally allowed them to happen in order to provide a pretext for war in the Middle East." I was suprised to find that so many people believe their own government was responsible for the deaths of thousands of Americans. What makes people question events like 9/11, the Kennedy assassination, and the death of Princess Diana? Are these larger than life events and people not worthy of the explanations of their demise? Is it too far-fetched to believe that a lone gunman could have killed President Kennedy? While I do believe that terrorists were behind the attacks in America on September 11, 2001, conspiracy theories out there - mainly online - force you to ask questions. The Pentagon has released a video of a plane hitting the building. Please watch it. I'd love to know what you think about it. Other online productions such as Zeitgeist and Loose Change have become cult- like success stories. Zeitgeist, as I write this blog post, is the number one ranked video on Google Video, not only in Canada, but in the entire world. It attacks Christianity, the offical account of 9/11, and the Federal Reserve System. Have you seen Zeitgeist and/or Loose Change? What did you think? In both cases, I heard about the videos through word of mouth. On YouTube, Zeitgeist has been viewed hundreds and thousands of times. The correlation between the power of the internet and the spread of conspiracy thinking cannot be ignored. Do you think society craves conspiracy thinking? If so, why? What is it about conspiracy thinking and conspiracy theories that is letting them thrive today? What are your thoughts on 9/11? Do you believe the official story from the U.S. government and the 9/11 Commission?
How can Beck scream about "questioning" authority on every issue except Obama's Birth Cert or 9-11 ??? Is he an Obama supporter ??? I've listened to him for a long time and I'd say he IS an Obama supporter to a certain extent (as a right gatekeeper). By that, I mean Obama was the selection this past election cycle and the so- called conservative talk pundits did their jobs by getting rid of Ron Paul and keeping the likes of John McNeedsaCane in the race.
Whoever would return government to the "will of the people" must first return the United States to the use of CONSTITUTIONAL COINAGE as a medium of exchange and through it return the Constitution as law in the United States.
We need to get the Truther stigma turned around. I am proud to want to learn the truth wherever it is to be found. I try to be truthful and honest in all my affairs. Is there anyone here who believes differently? Thanks.
What are your thoughts on 9/11? Do you believe the official story from the U.S. government and the 9/11 Commission? Conspiracy theories abound because conspiracies are plentiful. Conspiracies thrive today because law enforcement are busied shaking down little old ladies or enforcing non-crimes while the real culprits are legislating to make their illegal activities - legal / or taking bribes to make their lobbyist friend's crimes - legal. [Hitler is a known criminal but everything he did was legal]. My actual thoughts are that certain factions within and without the U.S. Government did it and continue to cover it up. I also believe that people within the government charged with investigating events such as 9-11 are hesitant to do their jobs, fearing repurcussions. Further, I think the controlling voices in media (operation mockingbird) are all owned by the CIA or whomever they actually work for.
Whoever would return government to the "will of the people" must first return the United States to the use of CONSTITUTIONAL COINAGE as a medium of exchange and through it return the Constitution as law in the United States.
I am proud to want to learn the truth wherever it is to be found. I try to be truthful and honest in all my affairs. Is there anyone here who believes differently? Nope ... not me. I believe the same as you do. I think far more people recognized what Beck was doing to Medina than Beck's handlers or even Beck himself considered. He screwed the pooch.
Whoever would return government to the "will of the people" must first return the United States to the use of CONSTITUTIONAL COINAGE as a medium of exchange and through it return the Constitution as law in the United States.
noone: How can Beck scream about "questioning" authority on every issue except Obama's Birth Cert or 9-11 ??? Is he an Obama supporter ??? I've listened to him for a long time and I'd say he IS an Obama supporter to a certain extent (as a right gatekeeper). By that, I mean Obama was the selection this past election cycle and the so- called conservative talk pundits did their jobs by getting rid of Ron Paul and keeping the likes of John McNeedsaCane in the race. I don't listen to Beck often enough to answer your questions with any authority. I will say this though. I personally would never associate myself with the Birther or 9/11 Truther movements. Both have been corrupted by disinformation agents. Look who is a leading figure in the Birther movement - a dentist turned lawyer former real estate agent and full fledged Zionist, Orly Taitz. Shish. Orly Taitz has damaged the credibility of the Birther movement beyond repair. Read this haaretz interview with Orly the Magic Lawyer and you'll see what I mean: www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1108 110.html
#2. To: Esso, Critter, Jethro Tull, X-15, Sam Houston, randge, Deasy, Lod, Cynicom, noone222, your_neighbor, Sonofademocrat, groundresonance, buckeroo, Kamala, James Deffenbach, Rotara, Horse, Eric Stratton, Texans (#0)
#3. To: christine (#2)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#4. To: X-15 (#3)
#5. To: christine (#4)
#6. To: christine (#2)
#7. To: christine (#0)
(Edited)
LETTER TO BECK:
#8. To: christine (#2)
Lord Acton
#9. To: noone222 (#7)
Lord Acton
#10. To: James Deffenbach (#9)
#11. To: X-15 (#3)
#12. To: noone222 (#7)
#13. To: James Deffenbach, noone222 (#9)
#14. To: noone222 (#10)
(Edited)
Beck's constant attack on truthers, birthers and anti-establishment or 3rd party candidates should make it clear that he's one of the bad guys.
Lord Acton
#15. To: Eric Stratton (#12)
That pretty much sums up Beck in a nutshell.
Lord Acton
#16. To: Eric Stratton (#13)
#17. To: James Deffenbach (#14)
His antics are a bit over the top and makes me doubt his sincerity and his attacks on good people leave me cold.
#18. To: noone222 (#16)
#19. To: Eric Stratton (#18)
#20. To: noone222 (#19)
#21. To: Eric Stratton (#20)
#22. To: noone222 (#21)
#23. To: christine (#1)
#24. To: noone222 (#7)
#25. To: Jethro Tull (#24)
It's very possible this ambush backfired badly.
#26. To: Jethro Tull (#24)
PS: Hutchinson is running an ad in TX saying Beck supports her. Go figure.
#27. To: Sam Houston (#11)
I can guarantee you that G. Gordon Liddy, wherever he is, is loving the Beck attack if he's heard of it. There is no more fierce neocon warmonger on the planet outside of Israel than Mr. Liddy.
#28. To: scooter (#5)
#29. To: noone222 (#26)
#30. To: christine (#29)
#31. To: X-15 (#3)
#32. To: noone222 (#7)
#33. To: Eric Stratton (#20)
Either way, he and the rest seem to think that leaving our own nation all but entirely undefended in principle, except for defending it against her own citizens of course, while traipsing around the globe killing anyone and anything in sight indiscriminately at times, ... well, that says enough right there.
#34. To: Jethro Tull. all (#24)
PS: Hutchinson is running an ad in TX saying Beck supports her. Go figure.
#35. To: Lod (#34)
#36. To: Samuel Gray (#35)
#37. To: Lod (#34)
Anyone who listens (and believes) to dreck
#38. To: Jethro Tull (#37)
#39. To: Lod (#32)
#40. To: Samuel Gray (#35)
I have Beck on in the background at present and he just said about Medina that "I've never witnessed anyone end their political career firsthand, but Medina might have ended her career on this show yesterday."
#41. To: Sam Houston, tom007 (#11)
I can guarantee you that G. Gordon Liddy, wherever he is, is loving the Beck attack if he's heard of it. There is no more fierce neocon warmonger on the planet outside of Israel than Mr. Liddy.
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#42. To: Lod (#31)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#43. To: christine (#4)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#44. To: X-15 (#41)
getting hysterical like Glenn Beck
#45. To: X-15 (#43)
railed against Glenn Beck for his unnecessary attack. I’ve encouraged
#46. To: X-15 (#43)
#47. To: christine, X-15, all (#46)
#48. To: noone222 (#7)
Lord Acton
#49. To: James Deffenbach (#48)
Yeah, right. I won't be signing up for any agitprop from someone who is in bed with the establishment.
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#50. To: X-15 (#49)
But did you click on the ProFlowers link and use "Beck666" for your special Patriotic American discount???
Lord Acton
#51. To: James Deffenbach (#48)
"Thanks so much for the email. Due to the volume of mail this may be the only response you see. While I do not always see it in a timely fashion I do try to read all of my mail. However, I average over 4000 letters a day and there is no way I can respond to most letters. I am glad you are watching/listening and even though you may not see a response, I want you to know that I am listening as well."
#52. To: christine, noone222, lod (#0)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#53. To: christine, noone222, lod, original_intent (#0)
full transcript: http://www.g lennbeck.com/content/articles/article/196/36197/
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#54. To: All, noone222 (#53)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#55. To: Artisan (#54)
#56. To: noone222 (#55)
When Beck derides truthers and birthers as dangerous people
#57. To: buckeroo (#56)
Beck has a point of view worth mentioning, birther and truthers are crazy
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#58. To: Artisan (#53)
glenn beck says 'i dont think shes the answer for texas'
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#59. To: Artisan (#57)
if the govt
#60. To: Artisan (#53)
glenn beck says 'i dont think shes the answer for texas'
Lord Acton
#61. To: buckeroo (#56)
Beck has a point of view worth mentioning, birther and truthers are crazy. These same folks beg speculation upon inconsequential details that don't go anywhere. I there was any truth to their claims, why hasn't there been more investigations?
Lord Acton
#62. To: Artisan, buckeroo (#57)
you discredit yourself with that statement. if the govt did something you think they would investigate it? and the lone nut killed JFK too, right? eegads.
Lord Acton
#63. To: buckeroo (#56)
Beck has a point of view worth mentioning, birther and truthers are crazy.
#64. To: James Deffenbach (#62)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#65. To: James Deffenbach (#62)
#66. To: buckeroo (#65)
Lord Acton
#67. To: buckeroo (#65)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#68. To: X-15 (#58)
Glenn Beck is a horse's ass and a complete fraud.
#69. To: all (#68)
#70. To: scooter (#69)
(Edited)
It will be interesting to see what the polls have to say after the fact. My guess is she will drop quite a bit. The good news is, is this is not a national election. Millions probably heard the interview and immediately wrote her off because of Beck and fortunately most of them are outside the state of Texas. The only thing that matters is how Texans viewed this. If the YouTube comments are any indication, Texans like her even more now.
#71. To: scooter (#69)
It was a question/set up likely given to him by someone who works directly or indirectly for either Perry or Hutchinson.
#72. To: Mister Clean, scooter (#71)
scooter: It was a question/set up likely given to him by someone who works directly or indirectly for either Perry or Hutchinson.
#73. To: scrapper2, all (#70)
#74. To: scrapper2 (#72)
Medina's answer was only "a problem" to those who want the rubes to forget nagging unanswered questions about 9/11 as well as their discomfort about the gubment's whitewash official explanation.
#75. To: scrapper2 (#72)
www.tvo.org/cfmx/tvoorg/t...&post_id=6884&blog_id=323
#76. To: scrapper2 (#72)
Beck is a flame throwing talking head entertainer. His ratings depend on generating controversy.
#77. To: noone222, Truthers, all (#76)
#78. To: christine (#75)
Do you think society craves conspiracy thinking? If so, why? What is it about conspiracy thinking and conspiracy theories that is letting them thrive today?
#79. To: Lod (#77)
We need to get the Truther stigma turned around.
#80. To: noone222 (#76)
scrapper: Beck is a flame throwing talking head entertainer. His ratings depend on generating controversy.
Orly Taitz: Obama policies are 'clear and present danger to Israel':The driving force behind the 'birther' movement has found her star is rising in Israel.
As for the Truther movement, here's a website that shows how the Truther movement has also been irreparably compromised.
www.truthmove.org/content/disinformation/
I'm not justifying Beck's cheap shot baiting of Dr. Paul and Medina. But I am saying that I can understand why Beck has not aligned himself with Truthers or Birthers. I wouldn't either. And it has nothing to do with being afraid to question authority. It has more to do with common sense and protecting one's career from being tainted by clearly "damaged goods."
Anyways, I think Medina handled Beck's questions perfectly. She stated that questions remain unanswered about 9/11 - which is fact - Medina's response mirrored the 86% of Americans who disbelieve the gubment's official story - and she did not bite Beck's bait by going on at length about what those questions might be. She answered his question directly and then matter-of-factly pointed out to Beck that his focus of questions had veered off topic because he said the interview was supposed to be about getting to know Medina's Governor campaign positions and 9/11 was outside the purview of state governors' responsibilities.
#81. To: James Deffenbach (#61)
Sorry, I am not a crap player; you figured the wrong man.
Have another drink (or another fifth). You're worse off than I thought.
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
#82. To: James Deffenbach (#66)
I guess taking an assuming a glimpse at your piss-poor posts as me begging about the world is my personal fault/ Hey! ... do you know how to do personal knickers, ensuring you really know the ideas of individual freedoms?
are you insane?
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
#83. To: Artisan (#67)
Such a nice detail. And where have you seen otherwise?
don't use the name of the Lord in vain. Thanks
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
#84. To: buckeroo (#82)
I deduce there is a question in there somewhere since there is a question mark at the end of it. Want to try again and use English this time?
I guess taking an assuming a glimpse at your piss-poor posts as me begging about the world is my personal fault/ Hey! ... do you know how to do personal knickers, ensuring you really know the ideas of individual freedoms?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#85. To: Lod (#77)
I am proud to want to learn the truth wherever it is to be found. I try to be truthful and honest in all my affairs. Is there anyone here who believes differently? I agree with you 100%. I don't feel stigmatized when someone calls me a "truther." I believe in being honest and believe in other people being honest with me. And I don't believe the official account of what happened on 9/11. To me, that (the official explanation) is the wackiest conspiracy theory I ever heard.
We need to get the Truther stigma turned around.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#86. To: James Deffenbach (#84)
Yeah... and here you are ensuring the love of "birthers" and God only knows what the HELL you want to ensure a stable America. What do you do besides eating a McDonalds cheesesburger on a Saturday evening? Nice fries and a strawberry shake?
Want to try again and use English this time?
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
#87. To: buckeroo (#86)
Well, let's see--tonight I had fraldinha, some rice and black beans, some home fries that I did myself, etc. No strawberry shake and no McDonald's anything. Guess I leave the crap to you.
What do you do besides eating a McDonalds cheesesburger on a Saturday evening? Nice fries and a strawberry shake?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#88. To: James Deffenbach (#87)
Yeah, and no matter what you eat the calories went to your fat fat head believing in "truthers" and "birthers." You don't have your eye on the ball believing in common gossip.
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
#89. To: noone222 (#63)
You are defending "keeping your eye off the ball" by lack of fact and plenty of fiction. Both the birther and truther movements have helped lose America. Since 2001, America has subdued more personal rights while our mutual and respective tax base(s) have gone up. I might add, the nation is near dead because of poor government and petty political nuisances nothing to do with birthers or truthers.
The terms birther and truther may be crazy, but the fact that people are asking questions related to 9-11 or Obama's "constitutional" legitimacy aren't crazy simply because they ask for answers to relevant questions that have serious consequences to freedom.
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
#90. To: buckeroo, noone222 (#89)
Since 2001, America has subdued more personal rights while our mutual and respective tax base(s) have gone up. I might add, the nation is near dead because of poor government and petty political nuisances nothing to do with birthers or truthers. You are defending "keeping your eye off the ball" by lack of fact and plenty of fiction. Both the birther and truther movements have helped lose America.
"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831
#91. To: buckeroo (#89)
yeah, Buck, try saying that to the families of the 9/11 victims who want answers and not that sham of an investigation offered up by the perps...and, by the way, in 2006 the NYT and CBS conducted a poll about 9/11 and at that time only 16% of Americans believed the government's "official story." Both the birther and truther movements have helped lose America.
#92. To: farmfriend (#90)
"Well, Aren't We Just A Ray of Fucking Sunshine"
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
#93. To: buckeroo (#92)
LOL
"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831
#94. To: christine (#91)
christine, christine.... christine. Are you aware that those same families opted to get "their" quarter million dollars from the US government, signing away their capabilities forever? Don't tell me you are becoming a socialist too, believing in being bought by keeping your eye off the ball.
yeah, Buck, try saying that to the families of the 9/11 victims who want answers and not that sham of an investigation offered up by the perps
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
#95. To: Mister Clean (#71)
I may be wrong on this, but from what I understand, that was the first time she's been asked the 9/11 question. Not during dozens, if not hundreds, of local and regional interviews has she been asked to address this. If my understanding is correct, the question wasn't consistent with other interviews. A CBSNews Article with comments is interesting about 1/3 of the way down. Someone claims they and several they knew where contacted by "robo calls" shortly after the Beck interview by the Hutchinson and Perry campaigns. I know the turnaround on robo calls is pretty quick, in that you can craft a statement and get it out there in a hurry if you need to. But in a political landscape, you need to get the message down, vet for maximum advantage, edit and release it and that can take a little bit of time. Beck has made some quasi-positive statements about Perry apparently previous to the Medina interview. Given this, yeah, it smells like someone(s) under the Perry umbrella figured Medina has sympathy for the 9/11 movement that they could exploit and gave Beck this angle and he went after it. It's a move that someone pulled out of their back pocket in the event things got too close in order pick off and marginalize a candidate. And like I said, it will probably work. I thought she was caught off guard and answered pretty well. Do I think she could have managed the answer better? Yes.
The question wasn't the problem, her answer was the problem.
"What began in Russia will end in America."- 1930, Elder Ignatius of Harbin, Manchuria.
#96. To: scooter (#95)
but...HOW in the WORLD could she go on the beck pogrom and NOT expect to get the Ron Paul 911 treatment ??? not prepared, REALLY ???
OK
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#97. To: scooter (#95)
btw, good to see you. it seems to have been awhile. but, it's been so long i can't remember if i miss you or not...LOL
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#98. To: Rotara (#97)
Thanks! I have a lovely two year old girl who my wife and I adore and I post more infrequently than ever before. I lurk and read every day though. To answer your question, someone has to be the "fall guy" for the rest of us to learn not to do that again. Beck ambush Paul and has then more or less warmed up to him. Between then and now, I can see how someone like Medina (or anyone) would allow their guard to be down. For those paying attention and in Medina's shoes in the future, this won't and shouldn't happen again. It's unfortunate it happened now. Hutchinson supported an illegal war killing thousands more than died on 9/11 (hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis) and supports the inhumane practice of torture and now she has the gall to lecture Medina about dishonoring the troops and the 9/11 families. If the world were fair, Hutchinson would be in prison. I don't know where to begin with Perry, though I'm sure Christine would have a good idea of where to start.
btw, good to see you. it seems to have been awhile. but, it's been so long i can't remember if i miss you or not...LOL
"What began in Russia will end in America."- 1930, Elder Ignatius of Harbin, Manchuria.
#99. To: buckeroo (#89)
I'll respond to your post even though I hesitate to waste the time. The birther and truther "movements" (if they can be called movements)are aimed at transparency in a government established upon a constitution that has been overtly ignored for such a long time that an idiot like you might dare attempt to blame the decline of America on those adherents to the very principles upon which the nation achieved whatever greatness it ever enjoyed. You mention that I defend "keeping one's eye off the ball" ... how so ? What exactly is the "ball" that one should keep his/her eye upon ? I have resisted calling you out for the obvious moron that you are, out of respect for Christine's effort to provide a forum for intelligent dialogue. I think she should make everyone take an I.Q. Test before becoming a 4UM member so that dipshits like you could be avoided. I might add, the nation is near dead because of poor government and petty political nuisances nothing to do with birthers or truthers. The above statement contradicts your initial response and causes me to wonder why you posted anything at all unless you're just a troublemaker without the intellect necessary to avoid publicly arguing with yourself. Besides that, the reason the country is in the condition presently enjoyed is criminal government, not poor government. Spending trillions of dollars of American people's pensions funds and retirements is not petty nuisance it's GRAND FUCKING LARCENY. Killing millions of innocent people in our name internationally is not a petty nuisance, it's MASS MURDER by PROXY. Someone killed 3000 Americans on September 11, 2001. The U.S. spends some 40 billion dollars of taxpayers hard earned money on intelligence annually (probably more), and some people are interested enough in their families, their fellow citizens and their posterity to DEMAND SOME FUCKING ANSWERS. I can see by your post that you are not one of these folks. I guess it would be nearly impossible for you to see the relevance of legally requiring the compliance of all candidates with constitutional mandates, especially those running for office on issues such as transparency in government as did Obubba. [The phrase "you can lead a horses ass to water but you can't make it think", reminds me of you.] If the U.S. Govt. cannot operate within the framework upon which it was founded then it should be abolished and another established with the changes necessary to the nation's betterment. The continued cooperation of the general public in support of an out of control police state makes no sense. To facilitate ones own demise "IS THE DEFINITION OF SUICIDE".
You are defending "keeping your eye off the ball" by lack of fact and plenty of fiction. Both the birther and truther movements have helped lose America.
Whoever would return government to the "will of the people" must first return the United States to the use of CONSTITUTIONAL COINAGE as a medium of exchange and through it return the Constitution as law in the United States.
#100. To: noone222, christine (#99)
I see you are sensitive and responsive to understanding the world around yourself. And I want to thank you for the reply. Let me be a caring kinda a fella that sez your remarcks are known and understood. Now, think... just think for a minute or two .... Both movements have been distractions to America. Where are the obvious outcomes? Name them ... laying dead? I'll respond to your post even though I hesitate to waste the time.
The birther and truther "movements" (if they can be called movements)are aimed at transparency in a government established upon a constitution that has been overtly ignored for such a long time that an idiot like you might dare attempt to blame the decline of America on those adherents to the very principles upon which the nation achieved whatever greatness it ever enjoyed.
I have resisted calling you out for the obvious moron that you are, out of respect for Christine's effort to provide a forum for intelligent dialogue. I think she should make everyone take an I.Q. Test before becoming a 4UM member so that dipshits like you could be avoided.
Christine's web channel has little to do with me. I stand on my own laurels. If christine wants to kick me out of here again, she has the power. But, I ask you ... why are you raising that same power? You created a BIG picture post. Give me some time to consider your other comments; I will say this: you seem sincere and you have a lot to say.
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
#101. To: noone222 (#99)
yeah .. "internationally" meanwhile the US government holds more local yokels in prison cells than any other country on the planet.
Killing millions of innocent people in our name internationally is not a petty nuisance, it's MASS MURDER by PROXY.
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
#102. To: noone222 (#99)
Methods of government waste. High fallutting politicians that come out to the county and shine their teeth.
What exactly is the "ball" that one should keep his/her eye upon ?
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
#103. To: noone222 (#99)
How? Here we are on a little Internet chit-chat channel. I really think you need to think about to redo your concepts. C'mon at least you can give 4um some chat about to make "America all better."
If the U.S. Govt. cannot operate within the framework upon which it was founded then it should be abolished and another established with the changes necessary to the nation's betterment. The continued cooperation of the general public in support of an out of control police state makes no sense.
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
#104. To: scooter (#95)
The reason she could be marginalized is because 9/11 "truth" is equated with the nutjob conspiracy fringe. If 9/11 "truth" was taken seriously by people outside the conspiracy fringe, political candidates would be embracing it fully.
Given this, yeah, it smells like someone(s) under the Perry umbrella figured Medina has sympathy for the 9/11 movement that they could exploit and gave Beck this angle and he went after it. It's a move that someone pulled out of their back pocket in the event things got too close in order pick off and marginalize a candidate.
#105. To: buckeroo (#100)
9-11 is most likely responsible for millions of American's awakening and in the end may even be responsible for completely destroying the left-right paradigm. Someone please remind me to never try to speak again to the deaf and dumb.
Both movements have been distractions to America. Where are the obvious outcomes? Name them ... laying dead?
Whoever would return government to the "will of the people" must first return the United States to the use of CONSTITUTIONAL COINAGE as a medium of exchange and through it return the Constitution as law in the United States.
#106. To: noone222 (#105)
Millions eh? Did you take a poll or is this what Alex Jones claims? If MILLIONS of people are "awake" because of 9/11, where is the independent political figure who embraces 9/11 "truth?"
9-11 is most likely responsible for millions of American's awakening and in the end may even be responsible for completely destroying the left-right paradigm.
#107. To: noone222 (#99)
They admit to $75 billion a year now. That means it's probably at least $150 billion. The U.S. spends some 40 billion dollars of taxpayers hard earned money on intelligence annually (probably more)
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
#108. To: scooter, christine (#98)
I don't know where to begin with Perry, though I'm sure Christine would have a good idea of where to start. LOL. THIS is always a fun place for me to start with that foking Globalist Traitor.
Great to see you and nice to hear such great things are going on for you guys...
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
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