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Title: First Medina, now Shami unsure about U.S. government involvement in 9/11 attacks
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://m.statesman.com/statesman/db ... 4oe0xE&detailindex=1&pn=0&ps=3
Published: Feb 13, 2010
Author: Corrie MacLaggan
Post Date: 2010-02-13 17:14:23 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 1132
Comments: 121

Democrat Farouk Shami became the second gubernatorial candidate in two days to say it’s unclear whether the U.S. government was involved in the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center.

Shami’s comments today — which follow Republican Debra Medina’s yesterday — came during an interview on WFAA-TV in Dallas/Fort Worth. When a reporter told Shami he wanted to ask him the same question Medina was asked — whether the U.S. government was involved in the attacks — this was Shami’s response:

“I’m not sure. I am not going to really judge or answer about something I’m not sure about. But the rumors are there that there was a conspiracy. True or not? You know, it’s hard to believe, you know, what happened. It’s really hard to comprehend what happened. Maybe. I’m not sure.”

You can see the full interview with the Houston businessman here.

In the same interview, Shami also says that most of his factory workers are Hispanic because “you don’t find white people who are willing to work in factories.”

Historically, he said, when “white people come to work in a factory, they either want to be supervisors or they want to be, you know, paid more than the average person. And unfortunately they exit.”

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#29. To: Mister Clean (#26)

being that you say that, i'm sure there's potentially some there-there.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-13   18:18:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Mister Clean (#28)

Yeah but who planted the explosives in the buildings? Got their names?

I believe the accounts from witnesses and other media which recorded the day do indeed indicate bombs had been prepositioned. For sure for sure in WTC 7.

If I knew for a fact who did it, I'd probably hunt them down and kill them.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-13   18:19:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Mister Clean (#28)

Yeah but who planted the explosives in the buildings? Got their names?

i'd bet a dollar to a dime larry silverSTEIN knows...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-13   18:20:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Mister Clean (#25)

The government is the entity positing the insane conspiracy theory. And anyone who believes it is pitiful.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-13   18:21:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Mister Clean (#22)

Which politicians orchestrated the attacks?

the PNAC guys... cheney, rumsfeld, wolfowitz, zakheim, kristol, perle, abrams, the kagans, and the rest of the israeli americans...

remember our president, crusader bunnypants, bragging about all the guys he recruited from the AEI?

remember that the AEI, PNAC and bill kristol's "weekly standard", the neocon flagship publication, all work from the same building at 1150 17th Street Northwest, Washington, DC?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-13   18:21:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: James Deffenbach (#21)

James, I'm coming to dislike the word "truth" in this regard. We should talk about facts and the documentation of facts. Truth is sometimes used synonymously with fact, as distinguishable from conclusions or opinions.

The conclusions or opinions held by offiialdom on many matters that has been impeached. The "truth" of what happened on 911 has not been ascertained with any reasonable degree of certainty.

We need to keep hammering at the facts.

randge  posted on  2010-02-13   18:22:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Rotara (#30)

If I knew for a fact who did it, I'd probably hunt them down and kill them.

So in other words you got nothing.

Gee, I'm shocked.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-13   18:23:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: James Deffenbach (#32)

The government is the entity positing the insane conspiracy theory. And anyone who believes it is pitiful.

How did the planes crash into the Twin Towers?

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-13   18:23:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Mister Clean (#35)

So in other words you got nothing.

Look who's talking.

randge  posted on  2010-02-13   18:23:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Mister Clean (#35)

norad

I have plenty, queenie.

And I don't care about the bombs other than I believe Barry Jennings (RIP) a lot more than I consider your bilge.

Why waste my time with a partisan knuckle dragger such as yourself ?


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-13   18:25:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Mister Clean (#36) (Edited)

How did the planes crash into the Twin Towers?

They were piloted by Mohammad Atta whose pristine passport was found in the street at the foot of the wreckage.

randge  posted on  2010-02-13   18:26:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Rotara (#38)

And I don't care about the bombs other than I believe Barry Jennings (RIP) a lot more than I consider your bilge.

You mean the bombs in the buildings that were planted by people you have no information about?

Hey, how do you know the bombs were even planted by people? Could have been robots, right?

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-13   18:27:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: All (#38)

KNOWN FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE WARNINGS OF 9/11

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"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-13   18:28:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: randge (#39)

They were piloted by Mohammad Atta whose pristine passport was found in the street at the food of the wreckage.

You don't even believe he was on the plane.

Does that mean you have no clue as to how the planes crashed into the Twin Towers?

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-13   18:28:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Mister Clean (#40) (Edited)

You mean the bombs in the buildings that were planted by people you have no information about?

Hey, how do you know the bombs were even planted by people? Could have been robots, right?

you are a complete and totally intellectually dishonest tool. but you knew that.

Key Witness to WTC 7 Explosions Dead at 53

Emergency coordinator and 9/11 witness Barry Jennings has passed away with controversy about WTC7 still hot– as the BBC hit piece and NIST report have been released to counter Jennings’ exclusive testimony of explosions inside Building 7

Aaron Dykes
Infowars.com
September 16, 2008

UPDATED SEPT 17 4:05 PM CST: NYC Housing Authority spokesman Howard Marder has now officially confirmed that Barry Jennings indeed passed away approximately a month ago after several days in the hospital, matching confirmations from several other employees at the Housing Authority. Marder commented that Jennings was a great man, well liked by everyone at the Housing Authority, and that he would be missed. No other details were available.

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Witness to WTC 7 Explosions Dead at 53
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Explosions Dead at 53

Barry Jennings– now dead at 53– details his eyewitness account while trapped inside WTC7 on 9/11 in a 2007 interview. Jennings told reporters on the day of 9/11, as well as Loose Change cameras in 2007, that he heard repeated explosions inside the building before either Tower 1 or Tower 2 collapsed and testified that he was "stepping over dead bodies" while exiting the ‘blown-out’ lobby to WTC7. 
featured stories   Key
Witness to WTC 7 Explosions Dead at 53

Barry Jennings, a key 9/11 eyewitness who was an emergency coordinator for the New York Housing Authority, has passed away at age 53 from circumstances not yet disclosed.

A spokesperson for the Housing Authority has now confirmed his death, after weeks of rumors circulating online, but refused to give any further details. Several other individuals at the Housing Authority also confirmed that they knew Barry Jennings, and that indeed he had passed away about a month ago. No other details were available.

This office has not yet been able to contact anyone in the Jennings family and the official cause of death is not yet known, but online comments  have reported the date of death as August 19, 2008.

It is very unusual that a prominent — and controversial– 9/11 witness would die only days before the release of NIST’s report on WTC7 and shortly after a firestorm erupted over his testimony that he heard explosions inside the building prior to collapse of either tower and that there were dead bodies in the building’s blown-out lobby.
featured stories 
 Key Witness to WTC 7 Explosions Dead at 53

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Witness to WTC 7 Explosions Dead at 53
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Witness to WTC 7 Explosions Dead at 53

The BBC aired The Third Tower in July in attempt to debunk Barry Jennings’ account– which is both contradictory and damaging to the official 9/11 story– by making issue over whether or not he said he “saw” dead bodies in the lobby.

Yet Jennings own statement in an exclusive interview with Dylan Avery and Jason Bermas– which has not been denied– was: “The fire fighter who took us down kept saying, ‘Don’t look down.’ And I said, ‘Why.’ And we were stepping over people– you know, you can feel when you’re stepping over people.

Now the release of Jason Bermas’ Fabled Enemies is giving further exposure to Jennings’ controversial account. The film features a full interview with Barry Jennings, as well as the statements he and Michael Hess, who was also trapped with him inside WTC7, made to news media on the day of the attacks.

Barry Jennings reiterated in the exclusive interview his confusion over the explanation for WTC7’s collapse– given that he clearly heard explosions inside the building:

“I’m just confused about one thing, and one thing only– why World Trade Center 7 went down in the first place. I’m very confused about that. I know what I heard– I heard explosions. The explanation I got was it was the fuel-oil tank. I’m an old boiler guy– if it was a fuel-oil tank, it would have been one side of the building.”

That interview was not released until June 2008 at the request of Mr. Jennings, who had received numerous threats to his job and asked that it be left out of Loose Change: Final Cut because of those threats.

Jennings statements have lit fire to questions about what really caused the sudden collapse of WTC7 just as NIST had hoped the release of their report would quash widespread beliefs that the building was brought down by controlled demolition.

News of Jennings’ death comes on the heels of losing another 9/11 hero and eyewitness– Kenny Johannemann, who reportedly committed suicide 12 days before the seventh anniversary of 9/11. Johannemann is credited with saving at least one man’s life on 9/11 and was also  a witness to explosions in the towers.

NIST’s report, as well as that of the 9/11 Commission (which did not even mention WTC7), completely ignored statements from the building leaseholder Larry Silverstein as well as numerous police, fire fighters and other eyewitnesses who have testified that they were warned about the building’s collapse and told to get back. One rescue worker even heard a countdown for the building’s implosion.

Unfortunately, Barry Jennings, whose testimony was ignored by the 9/11 Commission, can no longer raise questions personally about his experience inside WTC7, but his account will remain on the record and available in-full on the Fabled Enemies DVD so that what he witnessed about 9/11 cannot be ignored.

The truth about WTC7 will come out, and Barry Jennings’ testimony will not be in vain.
Please contact aaron@infowars.com if you have any information about the circumstances of Barry’s death or any other reports. We extend our condolences to any family or friends reading this for their loss.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-13   18:31:17 ET  (11 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Mister Clean (#40)

You mean the bombs in the buildings that were planted by people you have no information about?

As logical as maintaining they were destroyed by pilots whose whereabouts you have no information about?

randge  posted on  2010-02-13   18:32:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: randge (#34)

We need to keep hammering at the facts.

I agree wholeheartedly. Here are a few.

Despite the worst failure in history of the military to protect American civilians, and the worst alleged engineering failures in history, there were no consequences for the responsible authorities, and no honest investigations.

* Air Defense Failures
No one was held to account for the numerous unprecedented failures in air defense.
o General Richard Myers, Acting Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff on September 11th, was confirmed as Chairman on September 13th in spite of being unable to provide any meaningful answers to questions regarding the air defense failures.
o General Richard Eberhart, commander of NORAD on September 11th, was promoted to head the newly created NORTHCOM.
o NORAD's press release contradicted early statements by high-ranking officials that no interceptors had been scrambled on 9/11/01.
o NORAD's vague timeline raises far more questions than it answers, yet officials have never been required to give a full account.
o The 9/11 Commission advanced a new timeline which contradicts NORAD's earlier timeline and the testimony of military officials to the commission itself.

* Building Collapse Inquiry

The total collapses of WTC 1, 2, and 7 were the three largest engineering failures in history (based on the official story). How were they investigated?

o FEMA was given the sole authority to investigate the collapses even though it is not an investigative agency.
o The investigative team assembled by FEMA consisted of unpaid volunteers.
o The investigators were not allowed access to Ground Zero.
o The investigators were not provided with the blueprints of the buildings.
o FEMA's report states the causes of the collapse "remain unknown at this time". (By the time the report was released the steel had been entirely disposed of.) The fact that Building 7 (supposedly) failed in a way that contradicts 100 years of engineering experience makes it the largest and least understood structural failure in history.
o The 9/11 Commission Report failed to even mention the existence of Building 7.
o The 9/11 Commission Report denied the existence of the Twin Towers' core structures.
o NIST's report on the collapse of the Twin Towers purports to provide a "probable collapse sequence" for each Tower but truncates its timelines before the collapses even begin.
o NIST avoided even mentioning the earlier findings of sulfidated and evaporated steel, then described then by the New York Times "the deepest mystery uncovered in the investigation".
o NIST's Final Report on the collapse of Building 7 abandones the earlier official claims of severe structural damage and diesel-fueled fires, and blames the swift straight-down collapse on a house-of-cards chain reaction triggered by a single beam breaking loose of its connections due to thermal expansion -- a completely novel failure mechanism with no supporting evidence.
o NIST proffered disingenuous arguments for failing to test for explosive residues, which it continued to repeat even after responding directly to public comments and correspondence pointing out the fallacies of those arguments.

http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/analysis/anomalies.html#military
(about 3/4 down the page)

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-13   18:32:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Mister Clean (#36)

How did the planes crash into the Twin Towers?

How do planes usually crash into other things?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-13   18:34:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Rotara (#43)

you are a complete and totally intellectually dishonest tool. but you knew that.

Who planted the explosives? When did they do it? How did they do it? How were the explosives set off? Who set them off?

Questions you can't answer.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-13   18:34:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Barry Jennings RIP, WTC 7 (#43)

bump


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-13   18:35:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: randge (#44)

As logical as maintaining they were destroyed by pilots whose whereabouts you have no information about?

They're dead, that's where they are.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-13   18:35:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: randge (#39)

They were piloted by Mohammad Atta whose pristine passport was found in the street at the foot of the wreckage.

Why didn't they make the black boxes out of the same material that passport was made of?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-13   18:35:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: James Deffenbach (#46)

How did the planes crash into the Twin Towers?

Well I believe those planes were hijacked by suicidal/homicidal Muslim crazies.

What do you think happened?

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-13   18:36:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Mister Clean (#47)

makes no matter to me. there are bigger fish to fry and sooner or later one of them will save their necks or maybe their families' necks and start spilling the beans. it's called turning the tables. all the names will come out eventually.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-13   18:37:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: James Deffenbach (#45)

That's a great summary of all the stuff that we've been talking about for years, and I'm glad you hit on the responsiblity angle.

When Mattias Rust flew across Germany and landed a small plane in Red Square in 1987 without alerting Soviet air defense, heads rolled and generals were sacked. No one was hurt or killed.

What brass was even called on the carpet except to drool and blubber before Congress in the wake of September 11, 2001?

randge  posted on  2010-02-13   18:39:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Rotara (#52)

makes no matter to me. there are bigger fish to fry and sooner or later one of them will save their necks or maybe their families' necks and start spilling the beans. it's called turning the tables. all the names will come out eventually.

And you will be vindicated! Yay!

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-13   18:41:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: queenie troll, All (#51)

Updated: ISI and The Wire Transfers of 9/11

Crimes of the State Blog
http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/
(Revised 5/22/07)

Many people don't understand or choose not to believe that evidence exists of multiple wire transfers in excess of $100,000 to alleged "lead hijacker" Mohammed Atta prior to 9/11, and that these wire transfers are linked to the then head of Pakistani intelligence (ISI). This has blatantly been covered up by the Bush regime, by the Congressional Joint Inquiry, and by the 9/11 Commission, which this article will clearly show.

This is a complex area, and is clearly the subject of a vigorous disinformation campaign. Many aliases have appeared in US newspapers which don't correlate to the names given in previous reports regarding: just who IS this "Al Qaeda paymaster?" [1]

If you have some time, definitely read the Cooperative Research compendium of news accounts regarding Ahmed Omar Sayed Sheikh. [2] As you can imagine, his name can be spelled in numerous ways, as can any of his aliases. This has been a source of much confusion.

Let's clarify what this information about wire transfers proves.

1) At a minimum it proves cover up by high level US government officials, a cover up of the financial sponsors of the September 11th 2001 attacks on America.

a) FBI Director Robert Mueller admitted to the Congressional inquiry that many wire transfers were sent in 2000 and 2001 from several bank accounts in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) to and from alleged 9/11 hijackers. Aliases linked to those bank accounts were provided as well as the specific money amounts.[3]

b) The 9/11 Commission Report stated bluntly:

"To date the U.S. government has not been able to determine the origin of the money used for the 9/11 attacks. Ultimately the question is of little practical significance." -THE 9/11 COMMISSION REPORT, p 172.[4]

c) Senator Bob Graham, chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence has said that "foreign governments," plural, assisted the purported 9/11 attackers.[5] Graham refuses to name these governments.

d) Orwellian transcript-- Condoleezza Rice was confronted by the press on May 16, 2002. The transcript of that encounter has been altered, doctored both on CNN and in the "FDCH Federal Department and Agency Documents REGULATORY INTELLIGENCE DATA." The words "ISI chief" disappeared from history, down the memory hole. This is black and white proof of cover up.[6]

e) Numerous press reports, which were confirmed by US officials, linked the Atta money transfers to "Saeed Sheikh", and then to Pakistani ISI.[7] Yet this has never, ever been addressed by the U.S. government, nor explained by any "investigation" into the 9/11 attacks. They have literally pretended that these news articles were never written.

2) The U.S. State Department confirmed that "Shaykh Sai'id (aka, Mustafa Muhammad Ahmad)" was linked to terrorist funding in Bush's Executive Order 13224,"a powerful tool to impede terrorist funding," in the attached "ANNEX."[8]

The 9/11 Commission Report has no reference to the Mustafa Ahmad alias at all, and it does not address the wire transfers at all. A "Sheikh Saeed" is mentioned on page 251, referenced to Khalid Sheikh Mohammad's interrogations, whose testimony is suspect [9] (reported dead, reported not at location of his alleged capture, held incommunicado and potentially subject to torture for years in secret detention centers). The 9/11 Commission dutifully reports:

"Al Qaeda's chief financial manager, Sheikh Saeed, argued that Al Qaeda should defer to the Taliban's wishes."

"Another [unnamed] source says that Sheikh Saeed opposed the [9/11] operation both out of deference to [Mullah] Omar and because he feared the U.S. response to an attack." --(emphasis added) 9/11 Commission Report, p251.

While this is acknowledgement of Sheikh Saeed's existence as a "chief financial manager", there is no reference to any financial link between Sheikh Saeed and the 9/11 attacks themselves. None.

The only other mention of Shekh Saeed is the following passage referenced in footnote 59 of Chapter 2:

"He [Bin Laden] appointed a new financial manager, whom his followers saw as miserly."

Notice that this supposedly authoritative "investigation" doesn't bother to name this "new financial manager" here, or to explain what he did.

The footnote 59 of Chapter 2 says:

"CIA analytic report, "Shaykh Sa'id: Al Qa'ida's Loyal Senior Accountant," CTC 2003-30072H July 2, 2003."

Notice the name is spelled differently from the version on page 251 of the same report, leaving open the possibility for official denial that they are the same person?

Notice also that a "CTC" Counter Terrorism Center report was written on this man. Can someone file a FOIA request for this report?

The "CTC" is coincidentally where a memo was deliberately withheld from alerting the FBI about two other purported hijackers: Al Mihdhar and Al Hazmi.

Searching for wire transfers in the 9/11 Commission Report turned up the following:

"For Atta and Shehhi's enrolling at Jones Aviation see FBI report, "Hijackers Timeline" Dec. 5 2003 (Sept. 23 2000 entry citing SunTrust Financial records)."

Well I can't "see FBI report" because it doesn't appear to be on the Internet. Another FOIA is needed.

If the 9/11 Commission saw this FBI report, then they are aware of the SunTrust Financial wire transfers, and yet chose not to include them in their "final" report -- at all. This is more evidence of cover up.

This was all right in the Washington Post,[10] just a couple of days before the Indian intelligence service and Indian press threw a monkey wrench into the official 9/11 story:

"U.S. Ties Hijackers' Money to Al Qaeda

Investigators See Cash Trail as Key
By Dan Eggen and Kathleen Day
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, October 7, 2001; Page A01

(...)

The ties to al Qaeda, the group led by Saudi fugitive Osama bin Laden, include transfers of thousands of dollars from hijacking leader Mohamed Atta to al Qaeda's chief financial lieutenant in the Middle East days before the New York and Washington attacks.

(...)

The operation was kicked off with a $100,000 transfer into a U.S. bank account last year that has been traced to the United Arab Emirates. A source familiar with the investigation said the transfer may have been arranged by the financial lieutenant, Mustafa Muhammad Ahmed.

(...)

More than half of the criminal investigation team at FBI headquarters in Washington is dedicated to tracking the money, with many working from folding tables and chairs in the hallways.

(...)

The funding for the attack began at least a year ago with a single deposit of more than $100,000 to a U.S. account controlled by Atta. Dennis M. Lormel, chief of the FBI's financial crimes section, testified at a congressional hearing last week that the transfer has been traced back to an account in the United Arab Emirates.

In the following months, scores of cash infusions flowed into about a dozen accounts at SunTrust Bank in Florida and several other U.S. banks.

(...)

The FBI has told Congress that terrorists rely heavily on wire transfers...

(...)

Another key figure on the money trail is Ahmed, also known as Shaykh Saiid.

(...)

Ahmed is suspected of being the paymaster who oversaw the financial end, sources said. Ahmed was named by Bush as a suspected associate of terrorists, and is the subject of a global manhunt.

Ahmed got as much as $15,000 from Atta and two other hijackers, Al-Shehhi and Waleed M. Alshehri, in the three days before the attacks. Officials in the United Arab Emirates have said they believe Ahmed left there Sept. 11 for Pakistan." (emphasis added)

The FBI has said that the hijackers returned money back to the paymaster so they would not be seen as "thieves" before their martrydom. Seems plausible.

Going back to the Congressional Joint Inquiry report (p 141), we run into obfuscation about "Mustafa Ahmed Alhawsawi", which they present as a different Al Qaeda operative than "Mustafa Ahmad",[11] one who is also mysteriously later "captured" with Khalid Sheikh Muhammad, and never seen again. Witnesses reported that neither man was at the location of this alleged capture.

Another alleged "paymaster," Ali Abdul Aziz Ali, is tied to some wire transfers as well, further clouding the picture.

3) The Pakistani ISI chief, Lt. General Mahmoud Ahmad was fired immediately when the Indian government and press went public with the ISI / Omar Saeed Sheikh / Mohammad Atta connection.[12]

Lt. General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of ISI on 9/11/01

U.S. pressure on Pakistan to remove the ISI chief was cited in the press reports. The ISI chief was never "Wanted by the FBI" however for ordering the funds that reportedly financed the 9/11 attacks. Until this matter is clearly resolved, there has simply been no credible public investigation into the attacks of September 11th 2001.

Indian intelligence exposed (to its own detriment) its surveillance of the ISI chief's cell phone and calls, [12, 13] in order to convince the Americans that Pakistan, and in particular the ISI, was a source of international terrorism (which of course, it is).

Implications: What does it mean?

Either--

a) ISI chief ordered operative Sheikh to wire money to Atta and co.

or

b) Sheikh wired money independently, or at some other intelligence service's direction (CIA or MI6).

or

c) Someone other than Sheikh wired the money, which means that the Pakistani ISI chief was fired right then in an unrelated coincidence.

I'm going to go with a or b. Several press reports confirm Sheikh's involvement, including CNN:

"Indian and U.S. authorities now see a link between that hijacking and the September 11 attacks in the United States.

Freed with Azhar was Ahmed Umar Syed Sheikh, whom authorities say used a pseudonym to wire $100,000 to suspected hijacker Mohammad Atta, who then distributed the money in the United States. (emphasis added)" -CNN, 10/8/2001 [14]

The "hijacking" mentioned was of Indian Airlines 814, in December 1999, by men with knives who "stabbed one hostage to death in the early hours of the hijacking" and gained access to the cockpit. [15]

This method of attack is of course the one reported to have happened on 9/11/01.

While the Indian Airlines incident doesn't prove this is what actually transpired on September 11th, it does provide a proof of concept.

Some people aren't convinced that actual hijackers carried out the 9/11 attacks, and instead the planes were remote controlled, the communications from them faked. I do not take a position on this question due to a lack of irrefutable proof either way. This article deals with evidence, not speculation.

The ISI Chief in DC and the Timeline of the FBI Investigation

ISI Chief Lt. General Mahmoud Ahmad arrived in Washington DC on September 4 -- prior to the 9/11 attacks. He met with CIA Director George Tenet, the National Security Council, Pentagon officials, White House officials and specifically Marc Grossman the Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs[16] and a prominent member of the Project for a New American Century.

This timeline is instructive:

"September 11, 2001:

The World Trade Center is destroyed. That morning, Pakistani ISI Chief Mahmud Ahmad is sitting down for breakfast in Washington, D.C. with Sen. Bob Graham and Rep. Porter Goss - both of whom will later head the Congressional Committee to investigate the events surrounding September 11

September 18, 2001:

CBS News reports: "...agents have uncovered a money trail that they hope will lead to the hijackers' accomplices."

September 30, 2001:

ABC News "This Week" reports that the $100,000 money trail "can be traced directly to people linked to Osama bin Laden."

October 1, 2001:

Judith Miller of the New York Times reveals that the money was wired by someone using the alias "Mustafa Ahmad". The Guardian reports that Mustafa Ahmad is the alias for a "Sheikh Saeed."

That day, an attack is launched on the Kashmiri provincial legislature, increasing tensions between India and Pakistan.

October 3, 2001:

British Prime Minister Tony Blair releases his report detailing the "persuasive case" against bin Laden, yet no explicit mention is made of the "smoking gun" money trail.

New York Newsday reporters Riley and Brune reveal that Mustafa Ahmad is an alias for a "Shaykh Sai-id, who has been identified as a high-ranking bin Laden financial lieutenant." They also identify him as an Egyptian linked to the 1998 Tanzania Embassy bombing.

October 6-8, 2001:

Maria Ressa of CNN reports that 9/11 paymaster Mustafa Ahmad is an alias for a "Sheikh Syed", a 28-year old Pakistani former student at the London School of Economics who was released from an Indian prison in 1999 after being bartered for hostages taken in an airline hijacking that was "strikingly similar to the four hijackings carried out on September 11." Ressa also links "Syed" (hereafter known as Omar Saeed) to the October 1 attack on the Kashmiri legislature.

The invasion of Afghanistan begins.

Pakistani ISI General Mahmud Ahmad (not to be confused with the 9/11 paymaster alias "Mustafa Ahmad") is suddenly dismissed by Pakistani President Musharraf.

October 9, 2001:

The Times of India reports that General Ahmad was dismissed "because of the evidence India produced to show his links to one of the suicide bombers that wrecked the World Trade Center. The U.S. authorities sought his removal after confirming the fact that $100,000 were wired to WTC hijacker Mohammed Atta from Pakistan by [Omar Saeed] at the instance of General Mahmud [Ahmad]."

From this date, an intensive cover-up effort is set in motion. Omar Saeed [Sheikh] mostly disappears from the Western mainstream media until his re-emergence in Britain's Telegraph, January 27, 2002." -TIMELINE: Daniel Pearl and The Paymaster of 9/11, by Chaim Kupferberg [17]



Just who is this Omar Saeed Sheikh / Mustafa Ahmad guy?

Well, he's in a Pakistani prison right now, convicted of murdering Daniel Pearl of the Wall Street Journal.

They were supposed to execute Omar Saeed Sheikh, which would really prevent him from talking about these things, but Omar Saeed Sheikh has powerful allies in Pakistan who want him to remain alive, and even free.

"As the London Times has put it, Saeed Sheikh “is no ordinary terrorist but a man who has connections that reach high into Pakistan’s military and intelligence elite and into the innermost circles of Osama Bin Laden and the al-Qaeda organization.” [London Times, 4/21/02]

"In 1993 he emerged in Pakistan as a member of a militant group fighting for the liberation of Kashmir from India... it appears Saeed [Sheikh] was put on the ISI payroll around this time, to help the Pakistani cause in Kashmir. [ABC News, 2/7/02]

In 1994, Saeed [Sheikh] began training at a training camp in Afghanistan. He soon was teaching the classes. [Los Angeles Times, 2/9/02]

[Saeed Sheikh] developed close ties with al-Qaeda while training there. By the end of the year he was known as Osama bin Laden’s “favored son” or “my special son.” [London Times, 8/21/02, Vanity Fair, 8/02], --The Many Faces of Saeed Sheikh, Paul Thompson [18]

Sheikh went on to prison in India. He was released after other terrorists hijacked an Indian Airlines passenger jet (814) and flew it to Afghanistan. Omar Saeed Sheikh and two other "militants" were traded for the Indian passengers.

An ISI Colonel escorted Saeed Sheikh to a safe house in Pakistan.

Saeed Sheikh then lived openly in Pakistan, attending parties of high level government officials there.

Sheikh then is allowed to return to Britain, twice, in 2000 and 2001, even though he was a known international terrorist who had kidnapped British citizens in 1994.

Pakistani dictator Pervez Musharraf told that Omar Saeed Sheikh worked for British MI6.

"Pakistan's President General Pervez Musharraf has disclosed that Omar Sheikh, who alledgedly kidnapped and murdered American journalist Daniel Pearl and is now facing the death penalty, was actually an agent for the British Secret Agency MI6. Musharraf claims that Omar Sheikh had executed certain missions on MI6's behest before coming to Pakistan and visiting Afghanistan to meet Osama and Mullah Om." --INN World Report, January 16, 2007[19]

Others in Pakistan claim that Omar Sheikh is CIA.

"There are many in Musharraf's government who believe that Saeed Sheikh's power comes not from the ISI, but from his connections with our own CIA." --Pittsburgh Tribune, Did Pearl die because Pakistan deceived CIA?, March 3, 2002 [20]

"There are those who might doubt the word of Musharraf, and who can blame them? But in fact I documented Omar Sheikh Saeed's simultaneous intelligence connections to the CIA, ISI and MI6 in The War on Truth and The London Bombings. Details have come forth from an intriguing combination of American, British and Pakistani government sources." --Nafeez M. Ahmed, Pakistan and the Terror Nexus [21]

Perhaps Omar Sheikh belongs to all three agencies? Four including Al Qaeda? Who knows?

Not the American people. That's for sure. The American people do not know much about Omar Saeed Sheikh / Mustafa Ahmad, although he apparently financed the September 11th attacks, trained some of the hijackers in Afghanistan, worked for Pakistani ISI, British MI6 and U.S. CIA.

And none of this can be talked about in the Congress. Nor in the presidential debates. Nor on mainstream television nor on corporate radio.

Quite a neat trick.

"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."
--Keyser Soze, The Usual Suspects

Notes.

1. Cooperative Research, Mustafa Ahmed Al Hisawi, http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=mustafa_ahmed_al-hisawi

2. Cooperative Research, Sept. 11's Smoking Gun: The Many Faces of Saeed Sheikh, .http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/essay.jsp?article=essaysaeed

3.STATEMENT FOR THE RECORD FBI DIRECTOR ROBERT S. MUELLER III JOINT INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE INQUIRY, http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2002_hr/092602mueller.html

4. 9/11 Commission Report, http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf

5. PBS, Interview with Bob Graham, http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/congress/july-dec02/intelligence_12-11.html

6. Michel Chossudovsky, Center for Research on Globalisation, NEW REVELATIONS ON 9-11, http://www.prisonplanet.com/new_revelations_on_911.htm

7.Cooperative Research, Saeed Sheikh, .http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/essay.jsp?article=essaysaeed

8. US State Department,Executive Order 13224, http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/fs/2002/16181.htm

9. Taking Aim, Ralph Schoenman and Mya Shone, 070320 A Study in Disinformation: The Fake Confession of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, http://takingaimradio.com/mp3/takingaim070320.mp3

10. Washington Post, U.S. Ties Hijackers' Money to Al Qaeda, http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A17934-2001Oct6&notFound=true

11. Congressional Reports: Joint Inquiry into Intelligence Community Activities before and after the Terrorist Attacks of September 11, 2001, page 141, http://www.gpoaccess.gov/serialset/creports/911.html

12. Times of India, India helped FBI trace ISI-terrorist links, 9 Oct, 2001 l 2308 hrs ISTlMANOJ JOSHI/TIMES NEWS NETWORK, http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/articleshow?art_id=1454238160

13. Who Killed Daniel Pearl? (Paperback), by Bernard-Henri Levy, pp. 320-24, http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0974960942/centerforcoop-20

14.CNN, India wants terror spotlight on Kashmir, October 8, 2001, http://archives.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/asiapcf/south/10/08/india.ressa/

15. BBC, Indian hijack drama over, 31 December, 1999, http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/584729.stm

16. Cooperative Research, ISI Director Mahmood Ahmed, http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&the_isi:_a_more_detailed_look=mahmoodAhmed

17. TIMELINE: Daniel Pearl and The Paymaster of 9/11, by Chaim Kupferberg, http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/KUP209C.html

18. Cooperative Research, Sept. 11's Smoking Gun: The Many Faces of Saeed Sheikh, .http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/essay.jsp?article=essaysaeed

19. INN World Report, January 16, 2007, http://www.innworldreport.net/archives/2007/01/2007-01-16.html

20. Pittsburgh Tribune, Did Pearl die because Pakistan deceived CIA?, March 3, 2002, http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_20141.html

21. Nafeez M. Ahmed, Pakistan and the Terror Nexus, http://nafeez.blogspot.com/2006/09/pakistan-and-terror-nexus.html


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-13   18:43:29 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Mister Clean (#51)

Well I believe those planes were hijacked by suicidal/homicidal Muslim crazies.

Do you believe the attack was planned and carried out by a bunch of Arabs in a cave in Afghanistan who hated us because of our alleged "freedom"?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-13   18:43:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: queenie (#54)

you're intellectually dishonest besides being a mental midget.

your purpose has expired.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-13   18:44:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: randge (#53)

What brass was even called on the carpet except to drool and blubber before Congress in the wake of September 11, 2001?

None, at least not to my knowledge.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-13   18:46:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: James Deffenbach (#56) (Edited)

Do you believe the attack was planned and carried out by a bunch of Arabs in a cave in Afghanistan who hated us because of our alleged "freedom"?

No the attack was planned by some very intelligent Muslim crazies who plotted in Hamburg, Germany and trained in the US.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-13   18:48:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Mister Clean (#59)

We're back to the lap-dancing shaheed, are we?

Tomorrow's Valentine's Day. I'm off to get my wife some flowers and a movie.

Ciao.

randge  posted on  2010-02-13   18:51:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: randge (#60)

We're back to the lap-dancing shaheed, are we?

Why did the planes crash into the Twin Towers?

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-13   18:52:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Mister Clean (#61)

Why did the planes crash into the Twin Towers?

Why did WTC 7 fall into its own footprint when no plane hit it?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-13   18:59:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Mister Clean (#61) (Edited)

Why did the planes crash into the Twin Towers?

it's kinda hard to answer that, seeing as how the wreckage was cleaned up before a real investigation was done.

maybe you'd like to explain why the neocons resisted the idea of an investigation, and had to rely on trial by media that convicted your patsies before the dust had settled?

maybe you'd like to explain why your neocon friends said they needed a new pearl harbor just before they were installed ---by a phony election recount supervised by a PNAC signatory--- into positions from which they could make their new pearl harbor happen.

maybe you'd like to explain how divine neocon intervention caused the neocons' new pearl harbor to happen just a few months after neocons were installed into positions from which they could make it happen.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-13   19:02:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: James Deffenbach (#62)

Why did WTC 7 fall into its own footprint when no plane hit it?

Fires caused structural failure.

Why did the planes crash into the Twin Towers?

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-13   19:04:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Mister Clean (#64) (Edited)

Why did the planes crash into the Twin Towers?

because it was a perfect media setup for the "new pearl harbor" that the neocons said they needed.

the first tower was hit, ensuring massive live television coverage when the second plane hit the second tower.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-13   19:14:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: groundresonance (#65)

because it was a perfect media setup for the "new pearl harbor" that the neocons said they needed.

Read these slowly...

Did somebody fly the planes into the buildings?

Or were the planes remote controlled?

Or were the planes holograms?

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-13   19:19:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Mister Clean (#66) (Edited)

doesnt make much difference how it happened.

the fact that it happened is pretty much a given... the fact that it happened at the twin towers can be explained by the media opportunities afforded by a "double whammy" sort of operation, in which live coverage was guaranteed for the second whammy.

and it worked perfectly, except apparently millions of people are waking up to the logic of the situation, in which neocons, threatened by peak oil, said they needed a new pearl harbor, then occupied positions from which they could make their new pearl harbor happen... and then their new pearl harbor happened.

the fact that israel must be secured before america implodes from oil shortages, the fact that the government is infested with israel-firsters, the fact that oil production peaked in 2005, the fact that, after 9/11, operations have concentrated on the biggest oil patch in the world...

...well, all those facts are not lost on anyone who can still think, apparently including many voters in texas.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-13   19:25:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Mister Clean, groundresonance, *9-11* (#66)

Read these slowly...

Did somebody fly the planes into the buildings?

Or were the planes remote controlled?

Or were the planes holograms?

Hahahahahahaha

Mister Clean, you're so evil.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2010-02-13   19:28:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: wudidiz (#68)

Mister Clean, you're so evil.

Stupid is more like it.

Whoever would return government to the "will of the people" must first return the United States to the use of CONSTITUTIONAL COINAGE as a medium of exchange and through it return the Constitution as law in the United States.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-13   19:34:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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