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Title: First Medina, now Shami unsure about U.S. government involvement in 9/11 attacks
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URL Source: http://m.statesman.com/statesman/db ... 4oe0xE&detailindex=1&pn=0&ps=3
Published: Feb 13, 2010
Author: Corrie MacLaggan
Post Date: 2010-02-13 17:14:23 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 5555
Comments: 121

Democrat Farouk Shami became the second gubernatorial candidate in two days to say it’s unclear whether the U.S. government was involved in the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center.

Shami’s comments today — which follow Republican Debra Medina’s yesterday — came during an interview on WFAA-TV in Dallas/Fort Worth. When a reporter told Shami he wanted to ask him the same question Medina was asked — whether the U.S. government was involved in the attacks — this was Shami’s response:

“I’m not sure. I am not going to really judge or answer about something I’m not sure about. But the rumors are there that there was a conspiracy. True or not? You know, it’s hard to believe, you know, what happened. It’s really hard to comprehend what happened. Maybe. I’m not sure.”

You can see the full interview with the Houston businessman here.

In the same interview, Shami also says that most of his factory workers are Hispanic because “you don’t find white people who are willing to work in factories.”

Historically, he said, when “white people come to work in a factory, they either want to be supervisors or they want to be, you know, paid more than the average person. And unfortunately they exit.”

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#1. To: christine (#0)

Democrat Farouk Shami became the second gubernatorial candidate in two days to say it’s unclear whether the U.S. government was involved in the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center.

9/11 "truth" is the kiss of death for politicians.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-13   17:17:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Mister Clean (#1)

9/11 "truth" is the kiss of death for politicians.

Any truth about almost anything is the kiss of death to most of them, or you would think so by their aversion to telling it.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-13   18:03:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: James Deffenbach (#12)

Any truth about almost anything is the kiss of death to most of them, or you would think so by their aversion to telling it.

In this case, the "truth" is a wild conspiracy theory that makes any candidate who supports it unelectable.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-13   18:06:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Mister Clean (#16)

In this case, the "truth" is a wild conspiracy theory that makes any candidate who supports it unelectable.

BS! How is the truth ever a "wild conspiracy theory"? If the truth makes the government look bad does that make it any less the truth? And Debra Medina was right, there are a lot of questions about the events of 9/11, questions that have either been lied about or covered up. The Air Force stand down is one element of proof in a long list. Another being that building 7, the Salomon Brothers building, which was NOT hit by an airplane, fell into its own footprint late in the afternoon of 9/11 allegedly due to fire. But no other steel framed skyscraper has ever collapsed due to fire. And there is the fact that a reporterete from the BBC reported that it had fallen while it was still standing behind her. Now those are things that make normal people, people who aren't in bed with the government, go hmmmmmmmm.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-13   18:13:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: James Deffenbach (#21)

James, I'm coming to dislike the word "truth" in this regard. We should talk about facts and the documentation of facts. Truth is sometimes used synonymously with fact, as distinguishable from conclusions or opinions.

The conclusions or opinions held by offiialdom on many matters that has been impeached. The "truth" of what happened on 911 has not been ascertained with any reasonable degree of certainty.

We need to keep hammering at the facts.

randge  posted on  2010-02-13   18:22:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: randge (#34)

We need to keep hammering at the facts.

I agree wholeheartedly. Here are a few.

Despite the worst failure in history of the military to protect American civilians, and the worst alleged engineering failures in history, there were no consequences for the responsible authorities, and no honest investigations.

* Air Defense Failures
No one was held to account for the numerous unprecedented failures in air defense.
o General Richard Myers, Acting Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff on September 11th, was confirmed as Chairman on September 13th in spite of being unable to provide any meaningful answers to questions regarding the air defense failures.
o General Richard Eberhart, commander of NORAD on September 11th, was promoted to head the newly created NORTHCOM.
o NORAD's press release contradicted early statements by high-ranking officials that no interceptors had been scrambled on 9/11/01.
o NORAD's vague timeline raises far more questions than it answers, yet officials have never been required to give a full account.
o The 9/11 Commission advanced a new timeline which contradicts NORAD's earlier timeline and the testimony of military officials to the commission itself.

* Building Collapse Inquiry

The total collapses of WTC 1, 2, and 7 were the three largest engineering failures in history (based on the official story). How were they investigated?

o FEMA was given the sole authority to investigate the collapses even though it is not an investigative agency.
o The investigative team assembled by FEMA consisted of unpaid volunteers.
o The investigators were not allowed access to Ground Zero.
o The investigators were not provided with the blueprints of the buildings.
o FEMA's report states the causes of the collapse "remain unknown at this time". (By the time the report was released the steel had been entirely disposed of.) The fact that Building 7 (supposedly) failed in a way that contradicts 100 years of engineering experience makes it the largest and least understood structural failure in history.
o The 9/11 Commission Report failed to even mention the existence of Building 7.
o The 9/11 Commission Report denied the existence of the Twin Towers' core structures.
o NIST's report on the collapse of the Twin Towers purports to provide a "probable collapse sequence" for each Tower but truncates its timelines before the collapses even begin.
o NIST avoided even mentioning the earlier findings of sulfidated and evaporated steel, then described then by the New York Times "the deepest mystery uncovered in the investigation".
o NIST's Final Report on the collapse of Building 7 abandones the earlier official claims of severe structural damage and diesel-fueled fires, and blames the swift straight-down collapse on a house-of-cards chain reaction triggered by a single beam breaking loose of its connections due to thermal expansion -- a completely novel failure mechanism with no supporting evidence.
o NIST proffered disingenuous arguments for failing to test for explosive residues, which it continued to repeat even after responding directly to public comments and correspondence pointing out the fallacies of those arguments.

http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/analysis/anomalies.html#military
(about 3/4 down the page)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-13   18:32:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: James Deffenbach (#45)

That's a great summary of all the stuff that we've been talking about for years, and I'm glad you hit on the responsiblity angle.

When Mattias Rust flew across Germany and landed a small plane in Red Square in 1987 without alerting Soviet air defense, heads rolled and generals were sacked. No one was hurt or killed.

What brass was even called on the carpet except to drool and blubber before Congress in the wake of September 11, 2001?

randge  posted on  2010-02-13   18:39:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: randge (#53)

What brass was even called on the carpet except to drool and blubber before Congress in the wake of September 11, 2001?

None, at least not to my knowledge.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-13   18:46:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#80. To: James Deffenbach (#58)

What brass was even called on the carpet except to drool and blubber before Congress in the wake of September 11, 2001?

None, at least not to my knowledge.

I am sure some of the janitors at the pentagon were written up for the attacks.

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