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Title: First Medina, now Shami unsure about U.S. government involvement in 9/11 attacks
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URL Source: http://m.statesman.com/statesman/db ... 4oe0xE&detailindex=1&pn=0&ps=3
Published: Feb 13, 2010
Author: Corrie MacLaggan
Post Date: 2010-02-13 17:14:23 by christine
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Democrat Farouk Shami became the second gubernatorial candidate in two days to say it’s unclear whether the U.S. government was involved in the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center. Shami’s comments today — which follow Republican Debra Medina’s yesterday — came during an interview on WFAA-TV in Dallas/Fort Worth. When a reporter told Shami he wanted to ask him the same question Medina was asked — whether the U.S. government was involved in the attacks — this was Shami’s response: “I’m not sure. I am not going to really judge or answer about something I’m not sure about. But the rumors are there that there was a conspiracy. True or not? You know, it’s hard to believe, you know, what happened. It’s really hard to comprehend what happened. Maybe. I’m not sure.” You can see the full interview with the Houston businessman here. In the same interview, Shami also says that most of his factory workers are Hispanic because “you don’t find white people who are willing to work in factories.” Historically, he said, when “white people come to work in a factory, they either want to be supervisors or they want to be, you know, paid more than the average person. And unfortunately they exit.”
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#59. To: James Deffenbach (#56)
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No the attack was planned by some very intelligent Muslim crazies who plotted in Hamburg, Germany and trained in the US.
We're back to the lap-dancing shaheed, are we? Tomorrow's Valentine's Day. I'm off to get my wife some flowers and a movie. Ciao.
Why did the planes crash into the Twin Towers?
Why did WTC 7 fall into its own footprint when no plane hit it?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. it's kinda hard to answer that, seeing as how the wreckage was cleaned up before a real investigation was done. maybe you'd like to explain why the neocons resisted the idea of an investigation, and had to rely on trial by media that convicted your patsies before the dust had settled? maybe you'd like to explain why your neocon friends said they needed a new pearl harbor just before they were installed ---by a phony election recount supervised by a PNAC signatory--- into positions from which they could make their new pearl harbor happen. maybe you'd like to explain how divine neocon intervention caused the neocons' new pearl harbor to happen just a few months after neocons were installed into positions from which they could make it happen.
Fires caused structural failure. Why did the planes crash into the Twin Towers?
because it was a perfect media setup for the "new pearl harbor" that the neocons said they needed. the first tower was hit, ensuring massive live television coverage when the second plane hit the second tower.
Read these slowly... Did somebody fly the planes into the buildings? Or were the planes remote controlled? Or were the planes holograms?
doesnt make much difference how it happened. the fact that it happened is pretty much a given... the fact that it happened at the twin towers can be explained by the media opportunities afforded by a "double whammy" sort of operation, in which live coverage was guaranteed for the second whammy. and it worked perfectly, except apparently millions of people are waking up to the logic of the situation, in which neocons, threatened by peak oil, said they needed a new pearl harbor, then occupied positions from which they could make their new pearl harbor happen... and then their new pearl harbor happened. the fact that israel must be secured before america implodes from oil shortages, the fact that the government is infested with israel-firsters, the fact that oil production peaked in 2005, the fact that, after 9/11, operations have concentrated on the biggest oil patch in the world... ...well, all those facts are not lost on anyone who can still think, apparently including many voters in texas.
Did somebody fly the planes into the buildings? Or were the planes remote controlled? Or were the planes holograms? Hahahahahahaha Mister Clean, you're so evil.
Stupid is more like it.
Whoever would return government to the "will of the people" must first return the United States to the use of CONSTITUTIONAL COINAGE as a medium of exchange and through it return the Constitution as law in the United States.
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evilly stupid
and seeing as how texas has so many mexican americans, who are nominally catholics, we have to assume that those people have figured out that the pope is hamstrung, and they understand exactly what happened when the pope started yapping about the immorality of the iraq war... ...they understand perfectly that the boston globe has a vault full of priestly sexual abuse stories, many of which surfaced just as the pope was complaining about the immorality of the iraq war. take all this together, it's not hard to understand why texans might understand what's going on here. Pope John Paul II calls War a Defeat for Humanity: Neoconservative Iraq Just War Theories Rejected John Paul II stated before the 2003 war that this war would be a defeat for humanity which could not be morally or legally justified.
yeppers !
Whoever would return government to the "will of the people" must first return the United States to the use of CONSTITUTIONAL COINAGE as a medium of exchange and through it return the Constitution as law in the United States.
Oh come on, those are legitimate questions.
then there's haim saban, who bought univision ---which is the largest spanish network in america--- presumably in a belated attempt control information flow to mexican americans... haim, you will no doubt remember, is "a one-issue guy, and that issue is israel".
now then, if you think that mexican americans who live in texas are ignorant of all this, then you probly got another think coming.
It was a remarkable piece of police work that it was in the millions of tons of debris and dust found by the FBI. And we had the pictures and names of a the perps for the next morning's front pages. Just remarkable. Never did find the nearly industructable Voice Data Recorder, did they? Passport, no prob man.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" * Air Defense Failures No one was held to account for the numerous unprecedented failures in air defense. o General Richard Myers, Acting Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff on September 11th, was confirmed as Chairman on September 13th in spite of being unable to provide any meaningful answers to questions regarding the air defense failures. o General Richard Eberhart, commander of NORAD on September 11th, was promoted to head the newly created NORTHCOM. o NORAD's press release contradicted early statements by high-ranking officials that no interceptors had been scrambled on 9/11/01. o NORAD's vague timeline raises far more questions than it answers, yet officials have never been required to give a full account. o The 9/11 Commission advanced a new timeline which contradicts NORAD's earlier timeline and the testimony of military officials to the commission itself. * Building Collapse Inquiry The total collapses of WTC 1, 2, and 7 were the three largest engineering failures in history (based on the official story). How were they investigated? o FEMA was given the sole authority to investigate the collapses even though it is not an investigative agency. o The investigative team assembled by FEMA consisted of unpaid volunteers. o The investigators were not allowed access to Ground Zero. o The investigators were not provided with the blueprints of the buildings. o FEMA's report states the causes of the collapse "remain unknown at this time". (By the time the report was released the steel had been entirely disposed of.) The fact that Building 7 (supposedly) failed in a way that contradicts 100 years of engineering experience makes it the largest and least understood structural failure in history. o The 9/11 Commission Report failed to even mention the existence of Building 7. o The 9/11 Commission Report denied the existence of the Twin Towers' core structures. o NIST's report on the collapse of the Twin Towers purports to provide a "probable collapse sequence" for each Tower but truncates its timelines before the collapses even begin. o NIST avoided even mentioning the earlier findings of sulfidated and evaporated steel, then described then by the New York Times "the deepest mystery uncovered in the investigation". o NIST's Final Report on the collapse of Building 7 abandones the earlier official claims of severe structural damage and diesel-fueled fires, and blames the swift straight-down collapse on a house-of-cards chain reaction triggered by a single beam breaking loose of its connections due to thermal expansion -- a completely novel failure mechanism with no supporting evidence. o NIST proffered disingenuous arguments for failing to test for explosive residues, which it continued to repeat even after responding directly to public comments and correspondence pointing out the fallacies of those arguments. http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/analysis/anomalies.html#military (about 3/4 down the page) Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton James Deffenbach posted on 2010-02-13 18:32:57 ET Reply Trace Private Reply But other than that, there is surely no reason not to believe the 9-11 commission's findings.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" That had to be the most psychotic assertation of this century - so far anyway. The Bush WOPPER.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" None, at least not to my knowledge. I am sure some of the janitors at the pentagon were written up for the attacks.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" maybe you'd like to explain why the neocons resisted the idea of an investigation, and had to rely on trial by media that convicted your patsies before the dust had settled? maybe you'd like to explain why your neocon friends said they needed a new pearl harbor just before they were installed ---by a phony election recount supervised by a PNAC signatory--- into positions from which they could make their new pearl harbor happen. maybe you'd like to explain how divine neocon intervention caused the neocons' new pearl harbor to happen just a few months after neocons were installed into positions from which they could make it happen. good questions, ground.
sooner or later, politicians will catch up with the voters on this 9/11 business. i guess then it will be time for martial law, concentration camps, and shooting a few million intellectuals.
The conclusions or opinions held by officialdom on many matters that has been impeached. The "truth" of what happened on 911 has not been ascertained with any reasonable degree of certainty. that's an astute observation.
thanks, wud. ;)
None ever before or since. And you don't think that is strange?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. ha ha ha! that guy is cool. some of his replies to questions about 911 inside job: "maybe theres no smoke without fire. "i dont trust politics. "we still dont know who killed john f kennedy "...thats a very dangerous subject
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 Yeah, other than those things (and quite a few more I didn't even post) there is no reason not to believe the official fairy tale.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Yep. Obama might tell one to match it or beat it but so far I believe that one takes the cake.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. There is a bucketfull - including the professional video guy who filmed from across the bay, with a very high caliber camera, the tremendous explosions emminating from one of the towers prior to its collapse. Did I mention tremendous? Chris posted this a few times - it is nearly a smoking gun. A pretty unsettleing video for the status quo.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" Good on Shami. The self-made billionaire is telling the truth and asking the correct questions.
Yeah but who planted the explosives in the buildings? Got their names? Twenty-Five Ways To Suppress Truth: The Rules of Disinformation 14. Demand complete solutions. Avoid the issues by requiring opponents to solve the crime at hand completely, a ploy which works best with issues qualifying for rule 10. Example: 'Since you know so much, if James Earl Ray is as innocent as you claim, who really killed Martin Luther King, how was it planned and executed, how did they frame Ray and fool the FBI, and why?' Proper response: You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. It is not necessary to completely resolve any full matter in order to examine any relative attached issue. Discussion of any evidence of Ray's innocence can stand alone to serve truth, and any alternative solution to the crime, while it may bolster that truth, can also stand alone. Why do you refuse to address the issues by use of such disinformation tactics (rule 14 - demand complete solutions)?
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators." Are you this dipshit?
* Air Defense Failures No one was held to account for the numerous unprecedented failures in air defense. * General Richard Myers, Acting Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff on September 11th, was confirmed as Chairman on September 13th in spite of being unable to provide any meaningful answers to questions regarding the air defense failures. * General Richard Eberhart, commander of NORAD on September 11th, was promoted to head the newly created NORTHCOM. * NORAD's press release contradicted early statements by high-ranking officials that no interceptors had been scrambled on 9/11/01. * NORAD's vague timeline raises far more questions than it answers, yet officials have never been required to give a full account. * The 9/11 Commission advanced a new timeline which contradicts NORAD's earlier timeline and the testimony of military officials to the commission itself. A close examination of the "NORAD Record" has to make any rational, spined, red- blooded American start to say WHAT THE FUCK ?? ! Add WTC 7 and you'd have to be the biggest pussy in the nation to cower to reality and/or be dumber than a box of rocks to continue swallowing the official illegal shadow government story on 9/11/01 - the precipitant to "THE PATRIOT ACT", "THE LONG WAR", ET AL. I suggest hanging everyone involved, right down to the online shills...
Anyone who believes the official version of what happened on 9/11 needs some serious medication and to be watched around the clock. Meds adjusted as needed.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. That doesn't sound like a bad plan.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Especially the online shills.
The NEOtards do everything but deal honestly and seek truth. They're agenda is the antithesis of ours. They will swallow and regurgitate bilge but never admit the truth about the Lusitania and WWI, Pearl Harbor and WWII...Korea, Vietnam, Kuwait, Afghanistan, Iraq and who knows for sure which one is next. Fuck'em. They now know they are going to pay the price too. More power to'em. But they're going down. And they will receive no mercy, no quarter as they give none nor deserve none.
i guess then it will be time for martial law, concentration camps, and shooting a few million intellectuals. More like a white coat in a padded cell within a mental infirmary for James believing in both birthers and truthers; and all because of speculation, akin of the flat-world society.
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestDo you believe the attack was planned and carried out by a bunch of Arabs in a cave in Afghanistan who hated us because of our alleged "freedom"?
#60. To: Mister Clean (#59)
#61. To: randge (#60)
We're back to the lap-dancing shaheed, are we?
#62. To: Mister Clean (#61)
Why did the planes crash into the Twin Towers?
Lord Acton
#63. To: Mister Clean (#61)
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Why did the planes crash into the Twin Towers?
#64. To: James Deffenbach (#62)
Why did WTC 7 fall into its own footprint when no plane hit it?
#65. To: Mister Clean (#64)
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Why did the planes crash into the Twin Towers?
#66. To: groundresonance (#65)
because it was a perfect media setup for the "new pearl harbor" that the neocons said they needed.
#67. To: Mister Clean (#66)
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#68. To: Mister Clean, groundresonance, *9-11* (#66)
Read these slowly...
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#69. To: wudidiz (#68)
Mister Clean, you're so evil.
#70. To: noone222 (#69)
Stupid is more like it.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#71. To: noone222 (#69)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#72. To: Mister Clean (#66)
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#73. To: wudidiz (#71)
evilly stupid
#74. To: wudidiz (#68)
Mister Clean, you're so evil.
#75. To: Mister Clean (#74)
#76. To: Mister Clean (#74)
#77. To: randge (#39)
They were piloted by Mohammad Atta whose pristine passport was found in the street at the foot of the wreckage.
#78. To: James Deffenbach (#45)
Despite the worst failure in history of the military to protect American civilians, and the worst alleged engineering failures in history, there were no consequences for the responsible authorities, and no honest investigations.
#79. To: James Deffenbach (#56)
Do you believe the attack was planned and carried out by a bunch of Arabs in a cave in Afghanistan who hated us because of our alleged "freedom"?
#80. To: James Deffenbach (#58)
What brass was even called on the carpet except to drool and blubber before Congress in the wake of September 11, 2001?
#81. To: groundresonance (#63)
it's kinda hard to answer that, seeing as how the wreckage was cleaned up before a real investigation was done.
#82. To: christine (#81)
#83. To: randge (#34)
James, I'm coming to dislike the word "truth" in this regard. We should talk about facts and the documentation of facts. Truth is sometimes used synonymously with fact, as distinguishable from conclusions or opinions.
#84. To: wudidiz (#11)
#85. To: Mister Clean (#64)
Fires caused structural failure.
Lord Acton
#86. To: christine (#2)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#87. To: tom007 (#78)
But other than that, there is surely no reason not to believe the 9-11 commission's findings.
Lord Acton
#88. To: tom007 (#79)
That had to be the most psychotic assertation of this century - so far anyway.
Lord Acton
#89. To: James Deffenbach, christine (#87)
s (and quite a few more I didn't even post) there is no reason not to believe the official fairy
#90. To: christine. all (#0)
#91. To: Mister Clean, Rotara (#28)
but these type of events come from higher places than selected puppets.
#92. To: Original_Intent (#91)
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831
#93. To: Mister Clean (#64)
Fires caused structural failure.
The only real restraint on gummints is people who say "live free or die" ... and mean it. - Enderby
#94. To: James Deffenbach (#45)
Despite the worst failure in history of the military to protect American civilians, and the worst alleged engineering failures in history, there were no consequences for the responsible authorities, and no honest investigations.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#95. To: tom007 (#89)
There is a bucketfull - including the professional video guy who filmed from across the bay, with a very high caliber camera, the tremendous explosions emminating from one of the towers prior to its collapse.
Lord Acton
#96. To: Rotara (#94)
I suggest hanging everyone involved, right down to the online shills...
Lord Acton
#97. To: Rotara (#94)
right down to the online shills...
The only real restraint on gummints is people who say "live free or die" ... and mean it. - Enderby
#98. To: Original_Intent (#91)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#99. To: groundresonance, James Deffenbach (#82)
sooner or later, politicians will catch up with the voters on this 9/11 business.
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