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Title: First Medina, now Shami unsure about U.S. government involvement in 9/11 attacks
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URL Source: http://m.statesman.com/statesman/db ... 4oe0xE&detailindex=1&pn=0&ps=3
Published: Feb 13, 2010
Author: Corrie MacLaggan
Post Date: 2010-02-13 17:14:23 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 1147
Comments: 121

Democrat Farouk Shami became the second gubernatorial candidate in two days to say it’s unclear whether the U.S. government was involved in the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center.

Shami’s comments today — which follow Republican Debra Medina’s yesterday — came during an interview on WFAA-TV in Dallas/Fort Worth. When a reporter told Shami he wanted to ask him the same question Medina was asked — whether the U.S. government was involved in the attacks — this was Shami’s response:

“I’m not sure. I am not going to really judge or answer about something I’m not sure about. But the rumors are there that there was a conspiracy. True or not? You know, it’s hard to believe, you know, what happened. It’s really hard to comprehend what happened. Maybe. I’m not sure.”

You can see the full interview with the Houston businessman here.

In the same interview, Shami also says that most of his factory workers are Hispanic because “you don’t find white people who are willing to work in factories.”

Historically, he said, when “white people come to work in a factory, they either want to be supervisors or they want to be, you know, paid more than the average person. And unfortunately they exit.”

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#82. To: christine (#81)

sooner or later, politicians will catch up with the voters on this 9/11 business.

i guess then it will be time for martial law, concentration camps, and shooting a few million intellectuals.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-13   20:24:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: randge (#34)

James, I'm coming to dislike the word "truth" in this regard. We should talk about facts and the documentation of facts. Truth is sometimes used synonymously with fact, as distinguishable from conclusions or opinions.

The conclusions or opinions held by officialdom on many matters that has been impeached. The "truth" of what happened on 911 has not been ascertained with any reasonable degree of certainty.

that's an astute observation.

christine  posted on  2010-02-13   20:24:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: wudidiz (#11)

thanks, wud. ;)

christine  posted on  2010-02-13   20:28:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Mister Clean (#64)

Fires caused structural failure.

None ever before or since. And you don't think that is strange?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-13   20:29:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: christine (#2)

ha ha ha! that guy is cool.

some of his replies to questions about 911 inside job:

"maybe theres no smoke without fire.

"i dont trust politics.

"we still dont know who killed john f kennedy

"...thats a very dangerous subject

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-02-13   20:30:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: tom007 (#78)

But other than that, there is surely no reason not to believe the 9-11 commission's findings.

Yeah, other than those things (and quite a few more I didn't even post) there is no reason not to believe the official fairy tale.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-13   20:35:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: tom007 (#79)

That had to be the most psychotic assertation of this century - so far anyway.

Yep. Obama might tell one to match it or beat it but so far I believe that one takes the cake.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-13   20:39:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: James Deffenbach, christine (#87)

s (and quite a few more I didn't even post) there is no reason not to believe the official fairy

There is a bucketfull - including the professional video guy who filmed from across the bay, with a very high caliber camera, the tremendous explosions emminating from one of the towers prior to its collapse.

Did I mention tremendous?

Chris posted this a few times - it is nearly a smoking gun.

A pretty unsettleing video for the status quo.

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tom007  posted on  2010-02-13   20:57:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: christine. all (#0)

Good on Shami.

The self-made billionaire is telling the truth and asking the correct questions.

Lod  posted on  2010-02-13   21:11:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Mister Clean, Rotara (#28)

but these type of events come from higher places than selected puppets.

Yeah but who planted the explosives in the buildings? Got their names?

Twenty-Five Ways To Suppress Truth: The Rules of Disinformation

14. Demand complete solutions. Avoid the issues by requiring opponents to solve the crime at hand completely, a ploy which works best with issues qualifying for rule 10.

Example: 'Since you know so much, if James Earl Ray is as innocent as you claim, who really killed Martin Luther King, how was it planned and executed, how did they frame Ray and fool the FBI, and why?'

Proper response: You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. It is not necessary to completely resolve any full matter in order to examine any relative attached issue. Discussion of any evidence of Ray's innocence can stand alone to serve truth, and any alternative solution to the crime, while it may bolster that truth, can also stand alone. Why do you refuse to address the issues by use of such disinformation tactics (rule 14 - demand complete solutions)?

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-02-13   21:22:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Original_Intent (#91)


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-02-13   21:25:16 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Mister Clean (#64)

Fires caused structural failure.

Are you this dipshit?


The only real restraint on gummints is people who say "live free or die" ... and mean it. - Enderby

Critter  posted on  2010-02-13   21:41:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: James Deffenbach (#45)

Despite the worst failure in history of the military to protect American civilians, and the worst alleged engineering failures in history, there were no consequences for the responsible authorities, and no honest investigations.

* Air Defense Failures No one was held to account for the numerous unprecedented failures in air defense.

* General Richard Myers, Acting Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff on September 11th, was confirmed as Chairman on September 13th in spite of being unable to provide any meaningful answers to questions regarding the air defense failures.

* General Richard Eberhart, commander of NORAD on September 11th, was promoted to head the newly created NORTHCOM.

* NORAD's press release contradicted early statements by high-ranking officials that no interceptors had been scrambled on 9/11/01.

* NORAD's vague timeline raises far more questions than it answers, yet officials have never been required to give a full account.

* The 9/11 Commission advanced a new timeline which contradicts NORAD's earlier timeline and the testimony of military officials to the commission itself.

A close examination of the "NORAD Record" has to make any rational, spined, red- blooded American start to say WHAT THE FUCK ?? !

Add WTC 7 and you'd have to be the biggest pussy in the nation to cower to reality and/or be dumber than a box of rocks to continue swallowing the official illegal shadow government story on 9/11/01 - the precipitant to "THE PATRIOT ACT", "THE LONG WAR", ET AL.

I suggest hanging everyone involved, right down to the online shills...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-13   21:57:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: tom007 (#89)

There is a bucketfull - including the professional video guy who filmed from across the bay, with a very high caliber camera, the tremendous explosions emminating from one of the towers prior to its collapse.

Anyone who believes the official version of what happened on 9/11 needs some serious medication and to be watched around the clock. Meds adjusted as needed.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-13   22:08:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Rotara (#94)

I suggest hanging everyone involved, right down to the online shills...

That doesn't sound like a bad plan.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-13   22:09:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Rotara (#94)

right down to the online shills...

Especially the online shills.


The only real restraint on gummints is people who say "live free or die" ... and mean it. - Enderby

Critter  posted on  2010-02-13   22:10:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Original_Intent (#91)

The NEOtards do everything but deal honestly and seek truth. They're agenda is the antithesis of ours. They will swallow and regurgitate bilge but never admit the truth about the Lusitania and WWI, Pearl Harbor and WWII...Korea, Vietnam, Kuwait, Afghanistan, Iraq and who knows for sure which one is next.

Fuck'em. They now know they are going to pay the price too. More power to'em. But they're going down. And they will receive no mercy, no quarter as they give none nor deserve none.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-13   22:17:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: groundresonance, James Deffenbach (#82)

sooner or later, politicians will catch up with the voters on this 9/11 business.

i guess then it will be time for martial law, concentration camps, and shooting a few million intellectuals.

More like a white coat in a padded cell within a mental infirmary for James believing in both birthers and truthers; and all because of speculation, akin of the flat-world society.

"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977

buckeroo  posted on  2010-02-13   22:19:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: James Deffenbach, ALL (#96)


TWO 'ACTS' OF TYRANNY ON THE SAME DAY!


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By Daneen G. Peterson, Ph.D.


December 7, 2006


Latest Update September 21, 2008


On October 17, 2006, 'a date which will live in infamy' . . . there were two acts of tyranny committed.  The first was a public signing of the 'Military Commissions Act of 2006' which suspended habeas corpus allowing the president to declare you an 'enemy combatant' and end your rights to seek legal or judicial relief from unlawful imprisonment.



The second act of tyranny took place in a private Oval Office ceremony, in which the president signed into law the 'John Warner National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) of 2007' which essentially eliminates the protections of the Posse Comitatus Act and re-wrote the Insurrection Act.  The NDAA will allow the president to declare a 'public emergency' and take control of state-based National Guard units without the consent of the governor or local authorities, in order to 'suppress public disorder'!



About The Military Commissions Act of 2006 . . .



"A writ of habeas corpus which is Latin for 'you have the body' [as proof] is a judicial mandate to a prison official ordering that an inmate be brought to the court so it can be determined whether or not that person is imprisoned lawfully and whether or not he should be released from custody."(1)



"The writ of habeas corpus serves as an important check on the manner in which state courts pay respect to federal constitutional rights.  The writ is 'the fundamental instrument for safeguarding individual freedom against arbitrary and lawless state action'."(1)



Bush Speech

Bush Speech


MCA Signing


The Signing of the Military Commissions Act (MCA) of 2006


Expressing the pessimist's view was law professor Jonathan Turley who wrote: "The Congress just gave the president despotic powers and you could hear a yawn across the country [. . . ]  People clearly don't realize what a fundamental change it is about who we are as a country.  What happened today changed us.  And I'm not too sure we're going to change back anytime soon."(2)



Turley also said that:  "What, really, a time of shame this is for the American system.  What the Congress did and what the president signed today essentially revokes over 200 years of American principles and values."(3)



You can watch this MSNBC video where Keith Olbermann and guest Jonathon Turley, Constitutional Law professor at George Washington University discuss the Military Commissions Act here.



About the John Warner National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) of 2007 . . .



The NDAA essentially eliminated the Posse Comitatus Act and re-wrote the Insurrection Act so that the president can declare a 'public emergency' and take control of state-based National Guard units without the consent of the governor or local authorities, in order to 'suppress public disorder'!



"The historic and ominous re-writing of the Insurrection Act, accomplished in the dead of night, which gives Bush the legal authority to declare martial law, is now an accomplished fact."(4)



"In a stealth maneuver, President Bush has signed into law a provision which, according to Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vermont), will actually encourage the President to declare federal martial law.  It does so by revising the Insurrection Act, a set of laws that limits the President’s ability to deploy troops within the United States.  The Insurrection Act (10 U.S.C.331 -335) has historically, along with the Posse Comitatus Act (18 U.S.C.1385), helped to enforce strict prohibitions on military involvement in domestic law enforcement.  With one cloaked swipe of his pen, Bush is seeking to undo those prohibitions."(4)



NDAA Signing


The Signing of the John Warner National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) of 2007


What 'Rights' Have Been Taken From You?



"On September 28, by a vote of 65-34, the Senate formally passed S. 3930, the Military Commissions Act of 2006 (MCA).  The next day, the House of Representatives followed suit, passing the act by a vote of 250-170, . . . [whereby] "alien unlawful enemy combatants ... [to be] subject to trial by military commissions" without the constitutional safeguards American citizens possess against illegal detainment and judicial railroading."(5)



As far as an American citizen is concerned the definition of the term 'unlawful enemy combatant' has ominous import for them.  The law states the following:



"(1) UNLAWFUL ENEMY COMBATANT - (A) The term 'unlawful enemy combatant' means--"(6)

"Notice that this definition contains no exception for Americans; it throws the blanket over citizen and alien alike by using the word 'person' rather than 'alien'."(5)

All Americans should know that the suspension of the 'writ of habeas corpus' by the 'Military Commissions Act of 2006' is a violation of Article 1, Section 9 of the U. S.Constitution which states:  "The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it."



Gonzales:  ‘There Is No Express Grant of Habeas Corpus In The Constitution’



Gonzales & Bush



Yesterday, [1/18/07] during Senate Judiciary Committee hearings, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales . . . was debating Sen. Arlen Specter (R-PA) about whether the Supreme Court’s ruling on Guantanamo detainees last year cited the constitutional right to habeas corpus.  Gonzales claimed the Court did not cite such a right, [Specter disagreed] then [Gonzales] added, “There is no express grant of habeas in the Constitution.”



Specter pushed back.  “Wait a minute.  The constitution says you can’t take it away, except in the case of rebellion or invasion.  Doesn’t that mean you have the right of habeas corpus, unless there is an invasion or rebellion?”



You MUST watch this EXTREMELY DISTURBING video:  http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/videos/GonzalesOnHabeas.html#Title



Ominously, the full text of the 'Military Commissions Act of 2006' was published by the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations).  The fact that the CFR published the 'Act' would appear to be prima facie evidence of the Shadow Government's support for its genesis!(6)



The Center for Constitutional Rights commented that the:  "Congress is now rubber-stamping a bill that was written by the President which gives the President expansive power to detain without judicial oversight.  If the Military Commissions Act is passed, it will grant the President the privilege of kings, allowing him to imprison any critics as alleged ‘enemy combatants,’ never to see the inside of a court room or to have the chance to challenge their detention or their treatment.  What would we say if another country passed a law making it legal to snatch U.S. citizens and detain them indefinitely?”(7)



Sadly, the American Forces Press Service, propagandized the signing by utilizing the most common form of deception . . . omission.  Read how they announced the signing but uttered not one peep about the potentially devastating future it has unleashed.(8)



John Warner


                            Senator John Warner



Martial Law Now Stalks America . . .



On October 17, 2006, "Public Law 109-364, or the 'John Warner National Defense Authorization Act of 2007' (H.R.5122) (2), which was signed by the commander in chief on October 17th, 2006, in a private Oval Office ceremony, allows the President to declare a 'public emergency' and station troops anywhere in America and take control of state-based National Guard units without the consent of the governor or local authorities, in order to 'suppress public disorder'.”(5)



What the National Defense Authorization Act does is end the Posse Comitatus Act of 1787.  Posse Comitatus is Latin for 'power of the country.'  It WAS a "law, [that] was championed by far-sighted Southern lawmakers in 1878.  They had experienced a fifteen year military occupation by the US Army in post-Civil War law enforcement.  They understood the heel of a jackboot."(9)



"In a nutshell, this act bans the Army, Navy, Airforce and Marines from participating in arrest, searches, seizure of evidence and other police-type activity on U.S. soil.  The Coast Guard and National Guard troops under the control of state governors are excluded from the act."(9)



All these new tyrannical laws have been created obsessively to combat the amorphous concept of 'fighting terrorism' . . . an undefined and ever present boogey man.  So not only is the military now permitted to be used around the country, the president can take over the National Guard and the Coast Guard too.  It can happen under ANY pretext, at which time the president will become the dictator-in-chief.



According to Gen. Tommy Franks, martial law will replace the Constitution after the next terror attack.  In an interview with Cigar Aficionado he said:  “It means the potential of a weapon of mass destruction and a terrorist, massive, casualty-producing event somewhere in the Western world – it may be in the United States of America – that causes our population to question our own Constitution and to begin to militarize our country in order to avoid a repeat of another mass, casualty-producing event.  Which in fact, then begins to unravel the fabric of our Constitution.  Two steps, very, very important.”(10)



Written Dissent to the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) of 2007:



No matter your opinion of Cynthia McKinney, her 26 page dissent of the NDAA of 2007 is very compelling and highlights the damage and erosion, of tasks and performance, taking place between the police and the military in direct contradiction of our Constitution.  The following excerpt is from the section concerning the issue of Posse Comitatus [pp. 30-31 .pdf (pp. 528-529)] which can be found here:  (11)



This Authorization should also have reaffirmed the principle of Posse Comitatus for military forces, police and contracted security or combat forces.  This Constitutional principle creates a bright line between military and police functions.



In the wake of the attacks on September 11, 2001, the Bush administration has continued to make widespread and unnecessary changes in laws and administrative powers that undermine the most basic Constitutional principles and protected rights of citizens in a democracy [ours is a Constitutional Republic].



Recently, both President Bush and Senator Mark Warner (VA) have renewed calls to undermine or reverse the Posse Comitatus Act of 1867 [sic - i.e.,1878], which re-established the Constitutional principle and practice of separating military and police functions in a democracy [ours is a Constitutional Republic].



The experience of the founding fathers with the British model that combined the functions was enough to cause them to set that division sharply in administrative powers and civilian command of the military.



The principles began to be eroded in the period following the end of the Civil War, and the effective occupation of areas of the south by federal troops who were holding military tribunals, carrying out executions of citizens and usurping local police and judicial control.  Their excesses came to the attention of the post-war Congress and they passed the Posse Comitatus Act to forbid the military being used to enforce laws.



Further erosion followed the end of the Vietnam War, when police departments were increasingly militarized in training and equipment as well as employing a large number of returning war veterans. SWAT teams were created, a clearly militarized police function, getting training on military bases with advanced weapons.



When President George H.W. Bush came into office in the 1980s, his programs made increased use of military troops and equipment in the war against drugs, supporting police and collecting intelligence in regard to civilian crimes.  Joint Military Task Forces were created that combined DoD, FBI, SWAT, ATF and local police in sieges at Wounded Knee, Waco, Texas and against MOVE in Philadelphia, using tanks and military explosives.:,



President Bush has ample authority under provisions of existing laws on disaster response to mobilize and command any and all federal assets, including military forces. State directed National Guard units have always worked in conjunction with federal troops without being put under federal control themselves.  Both National Guard and regular military forces are authorized under federal and state laws to use force to protect lives, property and public safety during a declared emergency.  Police functions have been wisely left to local police and state National Guard forces, except when the situation was so dire they could not function.



Militarized Police

Helicopter Rescue

Militarized Police


The National Security Presidential Order - NSPD 51



On May 9, 2007 the president signed the National Security Presidential Directive (NSPD) 51 which completes the 'ground work' for nation-wide martial law and a totalitarian police state.  The One World Monopolists are NOT going to take the chance that we future slaves will be able to thwart them as they go forward with their plans for the NAU, so they have created their 'Ace in the hole'.  They can now call for martial law at their WHIM.  Any event that takes place ANYWHERE in the United States can now trigger placing the WHOLE COUNTRY under martial law!  They have essentially 'covered all their bases' and we are now in dire jeopardy.



What the National Security Presidential Directive - NSPD 51 and the Homeland Security Presidential Directive - HSPD-20 have done is CLOSE A LOOP HOLE IN THE NDAA which would have allowed debate, discussion, or demands that an event that happens in California, or some other state, should NOT require martial law in some or ALL other parts of the country.  This Presidential Directive was written to CLOSE THE GAPS IN THE NDAA!

The NSPD 51 directive loosely defines "catastrophic emergency" as "any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions."(39)(40)

Under Those Directives, Nationwide Martial Law WOULD have resulted in the past as follows . . .

So . . . if the event happens in Hawaii or Alaska, it doesn't matter, Martial Law will reign across all America.



Mark Koernke's 'Martial Law' Clarion Call ~ 15 Years Before the Rest of Us Woke Up!

Mark Koernke (Pronounced CornKey) - often referred to by his nickname, "Mark from Michigan" - has been one of the forerunners of the growth of the patriot militia movement.



Through a combination of shortwave radio broadcasts, widely distributed videotapes and personal appearances, the university maintenance worker, with important and relevant governmental experience and credentials, has used his speaking skills to spread a warning about the coming "New World Order".



Koernke is one of the leaders in the growth of the militia movement which gained widespread attention after being "mistakenly" linked to the Oklahoma City bombing.  He believes we MUST prepare for the worst of times because he knows what the government is doing in secret and what the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and the FEMA police, are really all about.



Watch this extremely informative lecture by Mark who exquisitely details HOW the U.N., in collusion with our government, is taking over America, which WILL become a totalitarian police state unless we act.  The video was recorded some time during 1993.  You will be horrified by the FACTS he relates, which are frightening beyond all measure.  By now, it should be evident to all that martial law is imminent, and will be used to 'suppress public disorder' no matter WHO sits in the presidential chair.  WAKE UP!

An addendum:  An interview of Mark Koernke by Sam Donaldson here.

We Are Inexorably Moving Towards A Police State . . . Think Not?

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"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-13   22:23:22 ET  (10 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: James Deffenbach (#96)

That doesn't sound like a bad plan.

Put them up against a wall and shoot them.

Put them on their knees and put a bullet in their head.

Use a guillotine.

I frankly don't care. War is hell and they demand it. SO shall they get.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-13   22:28:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Critter (#97)

Especially the online shills.

The media disinformation units absolutely have to be killed.

Non-negotiable.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-13   22:29:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: christine (#0)

I am convinced that Alberto Gonzalez, and George Bush, are parented by the same father.

I am seeing lots and lots of the same faces, on a lot of different people these days, as if there are clones of people being made.

For instance. Javier Barem, Jeffrey Dean Morgan, and Robert Downey Jr. All three of these men, are nearly all the same age, and look nearly identical to one another.

George Bush, and Alberto Gonzalez have the same voice, same mannerisms, same accent, and I'm willing to bet the same DAD.

If there was any question that there is some kind of boys from Brazil thing going on with people in power, or entertainment, it needs to be asked NOW.

It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2010-02-13   22:31:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: buckeroo (#99)

More like a white coat in a padded cell within a mental infirmary for James believing in both birthers and truthers; and all because of speculation, akin of the flat-world society.

Go give your hero, Al Gore, a big wet kiss you moron.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-13   22:35:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: James Deffenbach (#104)

LOL, "SURPRISE, surprise..." - pickleroo is BOTH a global warmist shill, a 911 Official Fairy Tale sponsor AND believes obamalamachimpdong is Constitutionally qualified to be the selected POTUS ! Go figger...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-13   22:38:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: James Deffenbach (#104)

Go give your hero, Al Gore, a big wet kiss you moron.

You have a problem with identification and traceability of posts. YOU believe in in Al Gore. You talk about him all the time.

I only bring Al up as a point of humour. Only an idiot, such as you would believe in that fat liar.

"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977

buckeroo  posted on  2010-02-13   22:39:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: christine (#4)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-13   22:59:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Rotara (#100)

very informative post. i didn't realize that Koernke had been interviewed on national tv by Sam Donaldson.

christine  posted on  2010-02-13   23:36:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Critter (#93)

Are you this dipshit?

laughing...

christine  posted on  2010-02-13   23:42:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: christine, Dr. Daneen Peterson, ALL (#108)

Thank Dr. D over at StopTheNorthAmericanUnion.com for her tireless research, persistence and other noble efforts, if you would. i encourage everyone that cares to download and read, read, read, digest, digest, digest every single tittle on that website...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-14   1:35:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Rotara (#110)

...and read, read, read, digest, digest, digest

Oh sure. And yet no level of publick suck up has occurred. Similar to 1993, when the US government murdered about 180 people at Waco, Texas.

You are a fucking government suck-up, pal. There is no way to change the crisis with you candy wrapping teenie, tiny little, ittsy-bitsy details based upon your point of view.

"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977

buckeroo  posted on  2010-02-14   1:49:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Critter (#9)

Among other things, the event was necessary for this to happen:

Israel seeks pipeline for Iraqi oil

I am sure this won't cause any problems in the ME.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2010-02-14   6:33:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Critter (#93)

Are you this dipshit?

Here are some questions you can't answer...

Who planted the explosives in building 7?

What explosives were used?

When did they do it?

How did they detonate them?

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-14   9:11:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Original_Intent (#91)

Twenty-Five Ways To Suppress Truth: The Rules of Disinformation

That should read:

Twenty-Five Ways To Avoid Reality: The Rules of Defending Conspiracy Theories

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-14   9:13:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: buckeroo (#99)

More like a white coat in a padded cell within a mental infirmary for James believing in both birthers and truthers

buck, why don't you tell all of us--and surely you can with all your infant wisdumb (and yes, I DO mean DUMB)--exactly what is wrong with being a "truther" and a "birther"? Is it wrong to want to know the truth about the events of 9/11? Or is it wrong to demand that Obama prove he is an actual American citizen when his own grandmother said she was there when he was born in KENYA? If you can't tell us why those positions are wrong then why don't you just snuggle back down with your bottle and put yourself out of your, and everyone else's, misery?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-14   13:58:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: buckeroo (#106)

Only an idiot, such as you would believe in that fat liar.

Apparently you are just about the only one who posts on this board who "believes" in your hero, Al. Your constant yammering and insistence that global warming is a fact, just like him, pretty much proves that.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-14   14:00:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Rotara, pickleroo, . buck the jabroni, imbiber of the special sauce, etc., etc. (#105)

LOL, "SURPRISE, surprise..." - pickleroo is BOTH a global warmist shill, a 911 Official Fairy Tale sponsor AND believes obamalamachimpdong is Constitutionally qualified to be the selected POTUS ! Go figger...

Not really all that much of a surprise. He's usually all over the lot with his opinions, probably having about as much to do with how much sauce he has had on any given day. buck is not someone I would want to stand beside me if push came to shove. He might decide to stop shooting in the same direction, know what I mean?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-14   14:04:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: groundresonance (#72)

thank you for posting that. i have referred people to that article many times. i dont, however agree with you thta the perv scandal was because of the popes resisatnce to the iraq war, although that is an interesting contention. i am Catholic against the iraq war and against pederast priests. a site you might find interesting is rcf.org. several priests have been murdered exposing the perv criminals in the church.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-02-15   20:08:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Artisan (#118)

i dont, however agree with you thta the perv scandal was because of the popes resisatnce to the iraq war

this stuff had been going on for years, maybe forever.

it's interesting, to me at least, that the 24/7 main media coverage didnt get cranked up until the pope called the neocons out.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-15   20:24:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: James Deffenbach (#117)

pickleroo, . buck the jabroni, imbiber of the special sauce, etc., etc.

LOL. And yes I know what you mean.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-16   13:25:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: All (#117)

FYI


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2010-02-16   14:07:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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