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All our conventional politicians have put this country on a bandwagon to nowhere, so that wouldn't be much of a change in course now, would it?.
Setting aside taxes, which I think we can all agree are too high, I would like to know what the conventional politicians have done to you personally? Are you going nowhere or do you just see the country as going nowhere?
Setting aside taxes, which I think we can all agree are too high, I would like to know what the conventional politicians have done to you personally? Are you going nowhere or do you just see the country as going nowhere?
Doing fine thanks, and so is the area of the country where I live - at least for the time being - as unemployment is just beginning to take a bite out of our well-being.
In most of the rest of the country, things aren't so rosy, and people in parts of the country that I've lived are really bitchin' about the state of affairs they're in. Our debt to GDP is just about 100% and growing, and we're looking at deficits far into the forseeable future. Right now, it looks like we're about to do what the Japanese have done and are locking ourselves into a permanent state of recession.
Given the two-party death dance taking place in DC, nothing's going to be fixed soon.
Okay so you're doing fine but you never pass up a chance to whine about, bitch about, complain about or criticize the status and direction of the nation.
Okay so you're doing fine but you never pass up a chance to whine about, bitch about, complain about or criticize the status and direction of the nation.
So by this comment can we assume that you are happy with the status and direction of the nation?
It seems to me that the country has been moving slowly, but steadily leftward since the late thirties, with the exception of a few small speed bumps along the way (Eisenhower and Reagan), and some would argue that I'm wrong on their account and there have been no speed bump at all.
From where I stand, conservatives, libertarians, paleoconservatives and classical liberals all have something to "whine about, bitch about, complain about or criticize."
The only ones that do not have anything to bitch about are neoconservatives and liberals, who, in actuality, one and the same.
So by this comment can we assume that you are happy with the status and direction of the nation?
America isn't perfect but it's definitely not the nightmare some on this forum make it out to be.
The only ones that do not have anything to bitch about are neoconservatives and liberals, who, in actuality, one and the same.
What are you talking about? Liberals bitch and whine more than anyone!
I asked randge the question because I believe that most people who bitch, whine and complain about the country aren't being personally harmed by the things they bitch about. Randge confirmed that.
What are you talking about? Liberals bitch and whine more than anyone!
Right. Anyone that doesn't sing the glories of the state is a liberal. Gotcha.
I asked randge the question because I believe that most people who bitch, whine and complain about the country aren't being personally harmed by the things they bitch about. Randge confirmed that.
You do not believe that Kelo vs. New London affects you? You do not believe free drugs for geezers effects you? You do not believe the governmental abuses of the commerce clause affect you? The continued infringements upon the Bill of Rights in the name of the War on X, Y, or Z affects you? There are literally hundreds, if not thousands of decisions made by the government that affect you. You do not have to be lying dead in a field or rotting in prison to be affected by the decisions of government.
Right. Anyone that doesn't sing the glories of the state is a liberal. Gotcha.
Spend 15 seconds on democraticunderground.com and you'll see nothing but liberal whining and complaining. The same is true for the dailykos and huffington post. Whining and complaining is the default position of a liberal.
You do not believe that Kelo vs. New London affects you?
It could one day but today, no.
You do not believe free drugs for geezers effects you?
No.
You do not believe the governmental abuses of the commerce clause affect you?
Care to enlighten me by telling me how it's affecting me?
The continued infringements upon the Bill of Rights in the name of the War on X, Y, or Z affects you?
No.
There are literally hundreds, if not thousands of decisions made by the government that affect you. You do not have to be lying dead in a field or rotting in prison to be affected by the decisions of government.
Could you explain how you are affected personally by everything you don't like about government. I would really like to read that. But I stress, I want to know what is affecting you, not a list of general complaints. How has YOUR life been harmed by government actions.
Spend 15 seconds on democraticunderground.com and you'll see nothing but liberal whining and complaining. The same is true for the dailykos and huffington post. Whining and complaining is the default position of a liberal.
Spend 15 seconds on ANY political forum, regardless of the ideology and you will see the same thing.
How has YOUR life been harmed by government actions.
Let me paraphrase a famous poem to answer that:
"First they came for the homeowners and I did not speak out because it did not affect me.
Then they came for the businessmen and I did not speak out because it did not affect me.
Then they came for the gun owners and I did not speak out because it did not affect me.
Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me."
You do not believe free drugs for geezers effects you?
No.
Hell, you can't even recognize the harmful effect deficit spending has on you, so no, I do not believe I will waste anymore of my time. This is America and you are free to believe whatever you want.
How has YOUR life been harmed by government actions.
Let me paraphrase a famous poem to answer that:
A poem is not an answer. What a cop out. I'm not surprised. You are unable to list how you have been personally harmed by the things you complain about.
A poem is not an answer. What a cop out. I'm not surprised. You are unable to list how you have been personally harmed by the things you complain about.
You're such a statist slave that you can't even understand (or admit to yourself) how something as simple as deficit spending affects you on a personal level. If you cannot understand that then going any further is a waste of my time. You go ahead and continue to ignore what is going on around you and sing the joys of government.
You're such a statist slave that you can't even understand (or admit to yourself) how something as simple as deficit spending affects you on a personal level. If you cannot understand that then going any further is a waste of my time.
I asked YOU how are actions/policies of the government effecting YOU personally.
Why are you having so much trouble responding to that question?
I asked YOU how are actions/policies of the government effecting YOU personally.
Why are you having so much trouble responding to that question?
For one I have already answered your question. Anytime the government policies abuse ANY citizen, it affects you or me. Secondly, I'm not here to teach you economics.
If, for example, the Kelo decision (which you referenced earlier) has harmed you, you would be able to say that you lost property to the state because of that law. See, that's what an example looks like. Here's another: if you were unfairly placed on the no-fly list, that would be an example of how you personally have been effected by government policy. Do you understand what a personal example is now?
A poem does not explain how you personally have been harmed. You won't answer the question because you can't and I knew you couldn't.
Rarely are people who complain about the government able to provide a personal example of how they've been harmed.
If, for example, the Kelo decision (which you referenced earlier) has harmed you, you would be able to say that you lost property to the state because of that law. See, that's what an example looks like. Here's another: if you were unfairly placed on the no-fly list, that would be an example of how you personally have been effected by government policy. Do you understand what a personal example is now?
A poem does not explain how you personally have been harmed. You won't answer the question because you can't and I knew you couldn't.
Rarely are people who complain about the government able to provide a personal example of how they've been harmed.
I am personally harmed by the Kelo Decision by the simple fact that the government now has the ability to take my property from me and give it to someone else in order to provide them with more tax revenue. The fact that it hasn't happened does not remove the threat.
As I have stated on this site before, my name IS on the no fly list. Considering there are several hundred people in this country with my exact name, we are ALL personally affected. This is my payment for fifteen years of military service and my dad's payment for thirty years.
As for how free drugs for geezers affects me, take an economics class or Google deficit spending, federal debt and inflation.
The War on X,Y and Z affects me because the government has given itself the authority to do things it was never meant to have the authority to do. For instance, we all live under the threat of some level of law enforcement mistakenly busting into our houses in the middle of the night and terrorizing and/or murdering us in the name of the War on Drugs. We all live under the threat of the government secretly entering our homes without our knowledge and not even having to tell us in the name of the War on Terror. Many of us are paying confiscatory taxes in order to pay for income redistribution in the name of the war on poverty.
I guess in your eyes those Russians not murdered or sent to the Siberian gulags were not personally affected by the actions of their government either.
The fact that you think that you are immune to any abuses of government because you are "Mister Clean" does not mean that you have not been personally harmed, even if you are incapable of seeing it. Everyday this site, LP, FR and hundreds, if not thousands, of political forums post articles with examples of how the government at all level is abusing American citizens and you sit there are state that none of this affects you?
That poem is an answer. A direct answer to your attitude that just because the government isn't targeting you personally yet that you are not going to be personally affected at some point in the future.
As I have stated on this site before, my name IS on the no fly list.
Finally, an answer to my question.
The others were answers also. The difference between you and I appears to be that you believe that the foot of government on the neck of another has no bearing on your life, whereas I recognize that the foot that today rests on the neck of another very well may one day be the foot that rests on my own neck.
Also, I have refused to fly since the government implemented the TSA. I will not be treated like a criminal by overpaid and undereducated goons on power trips. Over the years I have driven everywhere I have needed to go. The only reason I know that my name is on the no-fly list is because my father was not allowed to fly and we have the same name. Therefore, according to your standard, I'm not being affected.
Also, I have refused to fly since the government implemented the TSA. I will not be treated like a criminal by overpaid and undereducated goons on power trips. Over the years I have driven everywhere I have needed to go. The only reason I know that my name is on the no-fly list is because my father was not allowed to fly and we have the same name. Therefore, according to your standard, I'm not being affected.
If you're voluntarily refusing to fly it doesn't matter if your name is on the no-fly list.