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Title: 250+ 9/11 'Smoking Guns' Found in the Mainstream Media
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Published: Feb 16, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-02-16 16:34:50 by James Deffenbach
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250+ 9/11 'Smoking Guns' Found in the Mainstream Media
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#43. To: yukon (#37) (Edited) Any driver picked off the street could be placed in a NASCAR prepared vehicle at the Daytona racetrack and crash it. How about take any pilot off the street put him into a multi-engine jumbo jet in which they've never flown, have them navigate across the country without ground control, evade the air defenses of the most powerful military in the world as you fly around many of its airbases, perform amazing aeronautical feats that air traffic controllers believe is being done by a high performance single man fighter, and finally precisely hit a ground target at over 500 knots that most experienced pilots say they only have slight chance of pulling off. And do this three times. The last time is an hour after the first two and your target is the headquarters of the most powerful military in history located in the most heavily defended airspace in the world. Why would you even think for a second that you could accomplish this? OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-02-15 12:48:19 ET Reply Trace
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I recall some of those comments but don't know of a place to access them complete. Anyone know of a compiled listing?
You might want to check out this site:
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Great. Thanks!
The very first thing on this list is Operation Northwoods which has NOTHING to do with 9/11. There is no connection between Operation Northwoods and 9/11.
Drone remote control technology possibly ??
There is no connection between Operation Northwoods and 9/11. "#1962 - US military drafted 'Operation Northwoods', a plan to commit terror acts in US cities, kill innocent people, hijack airplanes, and plant evidence as a way to trick the public into thinking Cuba committed an unprovoked attack against the US in order to support a war against Cuba. (ABC, Natl Security Archives)" About how many bowls, or boxes, of Stupid-O's do you eat on any given day? Substitute Iran or Iraq for Cuba in there and see how rogue elements in the government have planned things like this for years. Just change the date and the player---2001 - US military drafted 'Operation Northwoods', a plan to commit terror acts in US cities, kill innocent people, hijack airplanes, and plant evidence as a way to trick the public into thinking Iraq committed an unprovoked attack against the US in order to support a war against Iraq. (ABC, Natl Security Archives
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. You have no evidence to justify changing the date and the player. You're simply making a ridiculous leap to a ridiculous conclusion. You have no evidence to support the idea that Operation Northwoods is related to 9/11.
You're so full of $#it that the Roto Rooter man couldn't clean you out, even if he had two truckloads of Ex-Lax to help him. The point is that your masters in the government that you love so much have planned things like 9/11 for many years, even as far back as the 60's. Actually even farther than that because most of the wars they have involved us in have been based on false flag ops.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. It's not evidence that 9/11 is an inside job. You can't connect Operation Northwoods with 9/11 because there is no connection.
No single piece of evidence mentioned may prove an inside job. But the preponderance of the evidence strongly suggests it. One thing I have always found curious is how carefree the pilots were. I mean the planes were hijacked and they flew around for an hour and a half or two hours and weren't worried in the slightest about being able to carry out their mission. I mean if it was really box cutter wielding arabs as alleged it seems they wouldn't want to take joy ride across Ohio and risk mission failure. It seems they would have went straight for their targets. And the squadron at Andrews just happened to be out over the atlantic that day.
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I can connect Operation Northwoods with government planning to do those kinds of things. Would a decent government even consider killing its own people in a false flag op to start a war against a country that had nothing to do with the reason(s) stated for the war? Only an evil government would do that. I think that answers Beck's question about whether the government is evil.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Hey Mister Disinfo, let's see you address some or all of the Pentagon anomalies. PENTAGON Sept 10 - Pentagon medic is on the phone with FBI talking about who has command of their emergency plane crash plan. (Army) 9/11 - Emergency equipment for Pentagon's emergency plane crash plans were already out of storage for inventory check before Pentagon crash. (Army) 9/11 - Hours before crash, a Pentagon medic was studying disaster plan based on unlikely scenario of a plane crashing into building. (Washington Post) 9/11 - Flight 77's radar stops near Ohio/Kentucky border and is the only one of the four hijacked planes that wasn't able to be tracked all the way. (Flight Explorer, Washington Post) Flight 77 is piloted by ex-Navy fighter pilot who worked on anti-terrorism strategies in same area of Pentagon hit by his plane and a passenger on board is an ex-Navy Admiral, jet fighter pilot, and American Airlines captain who also worked at Pentagon. (Newsday, Washington Post) 9/11 - Multiple fire and medical units dispatched near Pentagon minutes before crash for high-rise apt. fire that was reported out when 1st responder arrived which allowed most units to proceed to the Pentagon. (Arlington County, Fire Engineering) Pentagon crash happened right in the middle of the only section being renovated to bolster it against an attack which severely limited damage and loss of life. (USA Today, Army) 9/11 - Many key emergency response people arrive at the Pentagon within 5 minutes after the crash. (Arlington After-Action Report) 9/11 - Gas station and hotel's security cameras recorded Pentagon crash, but FBI arrived within minutes and confiscated films. (CNN, National Geographic) 9/11 - Boy on Flight 77 is lectured by military father beforehand about dying who subsequently takes a 'rare day off' from working in same area of Pentagon that son's plane will later crash into. (MSNBC) Pentagon construction worker says on Larry King Live that plane that hit Pentagon had 'fewer engines' than the other 9/11 planes. (CNN) 9/11 - Air traffic controllers thought alleged Boeing 757 flying towards the Pentagon flew like a 'military jetfighter.' (ABC, Washington Post) Alleged Flight 77 hijacker pilot, Hani Hanjour, was described as a horrible pilot by his flight instructors, was the only hijacker who didn't have a passenger number or seat assignment, and was unable to rent a single-engine Cessna 172 one month before 9/11 because he had trouble controlling and landing it during a test flight. (CBS, NY Times, Washington Post, Newsday) Witnesses describing a missile, or other non-Boeing 757 USA TODAY reporter Richard Benedetto says aircraft he saw hit the Pentagon 'sounded like an artillery shell.' (USA Today) Pentagon Renovation project coordinator Michael DiPaula says aircraft that hit the Pentagon 'sounded like a missile.' (Baltimore Sun) Space News editor Lon Rains was 'convinced a missile' hit the Pentagon by the way it sounded and how fast it flew in. (Space News) Pentagon network engineer Tom Seibert said he heard what 'sounded like a missile' crash into the building. (Guardian) Steve Patterson says aircraft he saw crash into pentagon appeared to hold about '8 to 12 people' and sounded like a 'fighter jet.' (Washington Post) USA Today Editor Joel Sucherman says he saw the body and tail of the aircraft that hit the Pentagon, but 'did not see the engines.' (CNN video) D. S. Khavkin says aircraft she and her husband saw fly overheard towards the Pentagon appeared to be a 'small' commercial aircraft. (BBC) Witnessing hardly any plane debris Engineer Steve DeChiaro says he was perplexed that a plane had crashed into Pentagon by seeing only a small hole in the building and seeing 'no tail, wings, no nothing'. (Memphis Online) Army Captain Lincoln Liebner says remarkably there was 'no debris from the airplane' at the Pentagon when he got to the building. (Army) Army Captain Allan Lindsley says he was 100 meters from the Pentagon crash site and didn’t see 'any of the plane.' (Army) Nurse Eileen Murphy upon reaching the Pentagon crash scene says she was real surprised that the plane 'wasn't there.' (Army) Sergeant First Class Maybon Pollock says he was in awe that he saw 'nothing left from the plane' at the Pentagon crash site after being told the size of the plane that had crashed there. (Army) Will Jarvis of the Office of Secretary of Defense tried but failed to see the plane at the Pentagon saying there was just 'nothing left' and couldn’t see a 'tail or a wing or anything.' (U of T Magazine) CNN's Jamie McIntyre live at the Pentagon scene says there's no evidence a plane crashed anywhere near the building other than pieces that are small enough to pick up by hand. (CNN video) Hearing multiple explosions, or smelled explosives Pentagon attorney Gilah Goldsmith said she smelled cordite, or gun smoke near the crash site. (Jewish News Weekly) Don Perkal of the Office of Secretary of Defense said he heard two explosions minutes apart and heard that a bomb had gone off in the building and when he smelled cordite, he says he knew 'explosives had been set off somewhere'. (McSweeney's)
Not interested.
You can't connect it to 9/11 therefore it's not a smoking gun.
Well, you're retarded but that's not a smoking gun either. Nor is it any kind of surprise to anyone who has read your government-defending posts. Only nutjobs try to defend the indefensible. And btw, before I forget, Operation Northwoods proves that the U.S. government is plenty capable of treachery against its own citizens to further the ends of the puppet masters who pull the strings.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. There is still no connection to 9/11.
"northwoods" demonstrates a mindset that is capable of staging 9/11. "northwoods" came down the pike in 1962, was approved by Lyman Lemnitzer, the jewish Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
do you spose that kennedy's rejection of "northwoods" was another nail in his coffin? ...another nail to go along with his insistence on inspections of israel's dimona nuke weapons fabrication plant?
now then... taking into account the fact that global crude oil production peaked in 2005, given the fact that the situation in israel is getting more and more desperate ---as israel's protection is threatened by peak oil... given the fact that israel now controls the american government, media, and political process... given the fact that israel must be secured before its protection collapses from oil shortages... given all that, isnt it likely that the mindset demonstrated by "operation northwoods" might now be acceptable to radical jews, israel-firsters, energy companies and political whores of all stripes?
There is no connection between you and sanity either but it doesn't seem to stop you from talking bs.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. It's not BS to point out that Operation Northwoods has nothing to do with 9/11.
Northwoods proves that the government, at the very least as far back as the 1960's, gave less than two whoops in hell for the American people and would kill any number of them if they thought it served their purpose(s). Now ef off quisling.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. That may very well be true. But Operation Northwoods is not a 9/11 smoking gun.
It's not BS to point out that Operation Northwoods has nothing to do with 9/11. Northwoods is absolutely relevant because it shows that there were/are elements within our government who would kill citizens to justify their personal ambitions. It is absolutely relevant because it demonstrates that the kind of thought that led to a 911 False Flag PsyOp Terror Event previously existed. It proves nothing specific about 911 but it does add background to the criminal profile.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
It proves the depths of indifference to human life the CIA will consider to accomplish political goals. Liberals, all of them...
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject. There is no connection between Operation Northwoods and 9/11. None! Because there is no connection, it's stupid for anyone to claim that Operation Northwoods is a 9/11 smoking gun.
Is that some kind of revelation?
it's not stupid, though, to claim that northwoods is a smoking gun of the mindset that made 9/11 possible, especially as it has become obvious, since american oil production peaked in 1970 and global production peaked in 2005, that america's days are numbered. ...keeping mindful of the fact that america is israel's protection service.
it's about time for you to run off again to hide behind mommy holyhoax's skirts, isnt it?
You're still here? I figured you and badeye would be playing naked twister by now.
Show Me Obama's Birth Certificate!
Of course not. Clean up your spittle, lick.
It is absolutely relevant because it demonstrates that the kind of thought that led to a 911 False Flag PsyOp Terror Event previously existed. It proves nothing specific about 911 but it does add background to the criminal profile. All that is true but you will never get it through to the government lover that has infiltrated the board.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. That I know, but I take joy in depriving it of any effectiveness in its PsyOp function.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
There is no connection between Operation Northwoods and 9/11. None! Because there is no connection, it's stupid for anyone to claim that Operation Northwoods is a 9/11 smoking gun. Most excellent young Sith. Your foaming denial of the relevance of Northwoods as background underscores just how valid it is. I stated clearly that it proves nothing specific about 911. What is does establish is a clear M.O.. Kennedy turned down Northwoods, but then Kennedy was assassinated because he would not "play ball" with the people trying to rape our country and destroy its traditions of liberty. You, on the other hand, are clearly in full alignment with that destructive agenda up to and including denying the literally hundreds of unaccounted for datums, by the Official Fairy Tale, which are ignored or papered over by lackeys such as yourself.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
That I know, but I take joy in depriving it of any effectiveness in its PsyOp function. You people crack me up.
I wonder when (or if) he will ever figure out he is wasting his time on this board. I can't think of anyone who posts here who agrees with him unless it is pickleroo. He was badmouthing the "truthers" and "birthers" the other day so I reckon he has turned government toady too.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. You get a gold star.
And what is that brown spot on your nose?
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
OsamaBinGoldstein is really kicking yukon's @$$.
Lord Acton
#8. To: James Deffenbach (#6)
"Half the commissioners on the damn 9/11 Whitewash Commission have said FEDGOV was lying and engaged in a cover-up."
#9. To: ndcorup (#8)
Lord Acton
#10. To: James Deffenbach (#9)
#11. To: James Deffenbach (#0)
250+ 9/11 'Smoking Guns' Found in the Mainstream Media
#12. To: James Deffenbach (#7)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#13. To: Mister Clean (#11)
#14. To: Mister Clean (#11)
The very first thing on this list is Operation Northwoods which has NOTHING to do with 9/11.
Lord Acton
#15. To: Rotara (#12)
Drone remote control technology possibly ??
Lord Acton
#16. To: James Deffenbach (#14)
Just change the date and the player---2001 - US military drafted 'Operation Northwoods', a plan to commit terror acts in US cities, kill innocent people, hijack airplanes, and plant evidence as a way to trick the public into thinking Iraq committed an unprovoked attack against the US in order to support a war against Iraq. (ABC, Natl Security Archives
#17. To: Mister Clean (#16)
Lord Acton
#18. To: James Deffenbach (#17)
The point is that your masters in the government that you love so much have planned things like 9/11 for many years, even as far back as the 60's.
#19. To: Mister Clean (#18)
It's not evidence that 9/11 is an inside job.
#20. To: Mister Clean (#18)
You can't connect Operation Northwoods with 9/11 because there is no connection.
Lord Acton
#21. To: Mister Clean (#18)
(Edited)
#22. To: Disgusted (#21)
Hey Mister Disinfo, let's see you address some or all of the Pentagon anomalies.
#23. To: James Deffenbach (#20)
I can connect Operation Northwoods with government planning to do those kinds of things.
#24. To: Mister Clean (#23)
Lord Acton
#25. To: James Deffenbach (#24)
And btw, before I forget, Operation Northwoods proves that the U.S. government is plenty capable of treachery against its own citizens to further the ends of the puppet masters who pull the strings.
#26. To: Mister Clean (#25)
#27. To: Mister Clean (#25)
(Edited)
#28. To: Mister Clean (#25)
(Edited)
#29. To: Mister Clean (#25)
Lord Acton
#30. To: James Deffenbach (#29)
There is no connection between you and sanity either but it doesn't seem to stop you from talking bs.
#31. To: Mister Clean (#30)
Lord Acton
#32. To: James Deffenbach (#31)
Northwoods proves that the government, at the very least as far back as the 1960's, gave less than two whoops in hell for the American people and would kill any number of them if they thought it served their purpose(s). Now ef off quisling.
#33. To: Mister Clean, James Deffenbach (#30)
There is no connection between you and sanity either but it doesn't seem to stop you from talking bs.
#34. To: Mister Clean (#30)
It's not BS to point out that Operation Northwoods has nothing to do with 9/11.
#35. To: Original_Intent (#33)
It is absolutely relevant because it demonstrates that the kind of thought that led to a 911 False Flag PsyOp Terror Event previously existed
#36. To: Dakmar (#34)
It proves the depths of indifference to human life the CIA will consider to accomplish political goals.
#37. To: Mister Clean (#35)
(Edited)
it's stupid for anyone to claim that Operation Northwoods is a 9/11 smoking gun.
#38. To: Mister Clean (#36)
#39. To: Mister Clean (#36)
#40. To: Mister Clean (#22)
#41. To: Original_Intent (#33)
Northwoods is absolutely relevant because it shows that there were/are elements within our government who would kill citizens to justify their personal ambitions.
Lord Acton
#42. To: James Deffenbach (#41)
All that is true but you will never get it through to the government lover that has infiltrated the board.
#43. To: Mister Clean (#35)
It is absolutely relevant because it demonstrates that the kind of thought that led to a 911 False Flag PsyOp Terror Event previously existed
#44. To: Original_Intent (#42)
All that is true but you will never get it through to the government lover that has infiltrated the board.
#45. To: Original_Intent (#42)
That I know, but I take joy in depriving it of any effectiveness in its PsyOp function.
Lord Acton
#46. To: Original_Intent (#43)
I stated clearly that it proves nothing specific about 911.
#47. To: Mister Clean (#46)
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