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Title: Lindsey Graham: White House mulling indefinite detention
Source: Politico
URL Source: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0210/32998.html
Published: Feb 17, 2010
Author: JOSH GERSTEIN
Post Date: 2010-02-17 08:56:27 by bush_is_a_moonie
Keywords: None
Views: 126
Comments: 6

The White House is considering endorsing a law that would allow the indefinite detention of some alleged terrorists without trial as part of efforts to break a logjam with Congress over President Barack Obama’s plans to close the Guantanamo Bay prison, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said Monday.

Last summer, White House officials said they had ruled out seeking a “preventive detention” statute as a way to deal with anti-terror detainees, saying the administration would hold any Guantanamo prisoners brought to the U.S. in criminal courts or under the general “law of war” principles permitting detention of enemy combatants.

However, speaking at a news conference in Greenville, S.C., Monday, Graham said the White House now seems open to a new law to lay out the standards for open-ended imprisonment of those *** alleged *** to be members of or fighters for Al Qaeda or the Taliban.

“We’re beginning to look at the idea we need to change our laws, come up with better guidance” for judges handling cases of enemy combatants, Graham said. “I’ve been talking to the administration for the last couple of days. I’m encouraged that we’re going to sit down and do some of the hard things we haven’t done as a nation after Sept. 11.”

“I think we need to change our laws to give our judges better guidance — rules of the road,” Graham said. “We need a statute to deal with that.”

Asked whether the White House is again considering a preventive detention statute, spokesman Ben LaBolt said: “Sen. Graham has expressed interest in habeas reform and other policy ideas. We will review constructive proposals from Sen. Graham and other members of Congress that are consistent with the national security imperative that we close Guantanamo and ensure the swift and certain justice the families of victims have long deserved.”

Graham also suggested that administration officials who recently completed the review of all prisoners at Guantanamo believe that a new law would be a better way to keep those inmates locked up if they are transferred to the U.S.

“I think the Obama administration, after they looked at the cases at Guantanamo Bay, understands the need for a statute like that,” he said.

In Germany they first came for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.

Then they came for me — and by that time no one was left to speak up

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#1. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)

The White House is considering endorsing a law that would allow the indefinite detention of some alleged terrorists without trial as part of efforts to break a logjam with Congress over President Barack Obama’s plans to close the Guantanamo Bay prison, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said Monday.

Clearly unconstitutional. Graham is despicable. I wish he was eaten alive by hungry ants.

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A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-17   9:01:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: A K A Stone (#1)

While I agree completely with your opinion of Graham, I find it curious that you would say such a thing after your comments concerning what people were saying about Lautenberg.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-02-17   9:23:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)

However, speaking at a news conference in Greenville, S.C., Monday, Graham said the White House now seems open to a new law to lay out the standards for open-ended imprisonment of those *** alleged *** to be members of or fighters for Al Qaeda or the Taliban.

This will be yet another topic the Os avoid :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-02-17   9:28:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#2)

While I agree completely with your opinion of Graham, I find it curious that you would say such a thing after your comments concerning what people were saying about Lautenberg.

You kind of got me there don't you. Oh well I'm not completely consistent.

Let me add this though. It was reported that Lautenbert was dead. After they are dead I tend to give then a little of a break because it is in Gods hand at that point.

I also know more about Graham. He had such potential, and I have come to despise him.

Hope that makes sense.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-17   9:40:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone (#4)

You kind of got me there don't you. Oh well I'm not completely consistent.

I wasn't trying to get you. It was just something I noticed. I don't think any of us is 100% consistent with our beliefs.

Let me add this though. It was reported that Lautenbert was dead. After they are dead I tend to give then a little of a break because it is in Gods hand at that point.

Understandable. I was once told by a devout Christian whom I respected that (at least in his eyes) it's OK to badmouth the dead as long as you don't wish hell upon them. He considered that to be a no-no because that would be a type of judgment that he had no right to make. I have no idea what the correct answer is.

I also know more about Graham. He had such potential, and I have come to despise him.

Yes, he definitely is not the same Graham that he was during the Clinton impeachment era. He was a hero then.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-02-17   10:14:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-17   15:06:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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