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Title: The Census Is Getting Personal... BOYCOTT or, Video Activism
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/user/minivanjack#p/a/u/0/RsDhkPym01k
Published: Feb 17, 2010
Author: Jerryday.com
Post Date: 2010-02-17 17:29:37 by wakeup
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Views: 13507
Comments: 44
Ohhh, I love the idea of lots of youtube clips of Census Takers replying to a few choice questions? Don't you?
Reward JerryDay by subscribing to his youtube channel then, pass this 4um link along to everyone on your list, specifically asking them to also pass it along... please. Let's run up some numbers while waking up some folks to a great way to deal with the feds when they come a knockin.'
Don't open the door but, if you must, have a tripod and video camera already running. Hell, practice how you will handle the whole scene. Or, just flip your digital camera to video and catch what you can. They are coming and they want your voluntary cooperation.
Don't volunteer, for God's sake. Ask a few questions of your own and catch them on video making fools of themselves. I Love It. You can use the video option of your digital camera as well. Hold it steady.
I will make a DVD for the project which contains this clip and the best clips of these folks at the front door. Oh, baby, this could wake up some folks
"Here is my personal copy of the Constitution, please, show where your authority comes cause' all I find in the document is a head count every ten years. Oh, and please, look into the lens and speak clearly."
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#5. To: wakeup, TommyTheMadArtist, Lod, Give Me Liberty, Disgusted, christine, Cynicom, Jethro Tull, Jerry Day, Prefrontal Vortex, X-15 (#0)
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See Give Me Liberty's #3. It may be that the penalties for answering questions incorrectly are much worse than refusing to answer any questions at all. That should tell you something about the stakes involved. We are seeing evidence of government's unstoppable growth with the new census process, so citizen resistance — perhaps considered a form of civil disobedience — is a given. Video recording of any interactions could be helpful in stirring up opposition to the changes, but one might want to consider heeding the rules of common courtesy. I recommend listening to Jerry Day's list of unanswered questions. In the eyes of this citizen, the Census as practiced today is unconstitutional. It may also be driven out of fear of demographic changes. There must be a perceived need on government's part to try to understand the impact of open immigration.
My occupation: piano player in a whorehouse.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
Mistakes happen. Let the system haul a few million SENIOR/DISABLED citizens into civil court for a mistake some unskilled census taker claims you made. Not going to happen.
Incorrect. Look at the various lawmaker summary sites for details. But since when have American laws had to be actually legal as in clearly constitutional? The empire needs this. And so it is.
Oh, I wish this were true. Unfortunately, in the eyes of most citizens is ignorance and apathy. They haven't a clue what to do when the doorbell rings. This is precisely why each of us must wake up our friends and neighbors with educational tools like the project DVDs. Yes, I just plugged my site.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
I know you're doing tremendous work with your DVD project. I agree: most Americans think it's good citizenship to do whatever the nice Feds say when they come around. We need to show our fellow countrymen that it's wrong on American principle to think that way. Maybe your DVDs are doing more than most of the rest of us in that regard.
I think one of the confusions on the Census is that the Constitution mandates that one be taken every ten years. The additional questions "Christmas Tree'd" onto the Census raise valid concerns. The Census has valid purposes, as do the questions, as regards American civil society. However, like any information collection the government ends up going overboard and there are valid concerns over some of what is asked. Just remember that the poor sucker knocking on your door was hired to collect data and likely has very little real knowledge of what is done with it. Census Enumerators, as they are called, are temps hired just for the one and only purpose of collecting the data. Once that portion of the Census is done it is back to the unemployment line. So, if it upsets you take it out on your Congresscritter not the poor sap just trying to pay the rent and buy some groceries.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
TRIANGLE RESEARCH ... hehehehehehehe !!!
Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.
Absolutely none. One of their people came to our house last time around and I told him how many people lived at that address and that is ALL I told him. He asked me if I wouldn't answer the rest of the questions and I told him I would not, that the census was for the purpose of determining the number of people and that was all. And he already had that. Never heard anything more about it.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. There would seem to be no penalties whatsoever for refusing to answer any question they might have beyond telling them the number of people who live at that particular residence. That is all I told them and they never sent anyone else or anything in the mail and it has been about ten years I guess.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I bet your mama is proud of that. After all, you could have been a lawyer or a politician. But she can hold her head up now that you turned out so well.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
Even so. They may have superpowers. I wonder if these guys are technically agents. I say yes. It is illegal to lie to a Federal agent whether they realize they are agents or not.
Great minds and all that.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Eric: nobody notices. A little rag-time, a little vaudeville.... James, I tell my mother that the job keeps me in practice for the Van Cliburn International Piano Competition.
_________________________________________________________________________ Sure, no need to mention the fringe benefits. >(;^{)
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. It is illegal to lie to a Federal agent whether they realize they are agents or not. I don't know whether they are considered Agents or not but I do recall reading that it is an offense to lie on a Census Form. So, whatever you do don't sleep on one. Other than that last time around they sent me the long form, and so I filled out the short form portion and sent it back. When they sent someone to knock on my door I was very polite but voiced my objections to the snoopy questions and declined to answer. Eventually she gave up.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
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Get camera, lod.
uh..what happens if i never answer my door?
Will you ever come and go? They'll be there, smiling.
i come and go in my car from the garage. i won't be stopping to talk to some stranger if they happen to catch me.
What I don't understand about the census is, if they can mail me a census form with my name and address on it, it seems they already know who I am and where I live - so what's the point?
the point is they know they can get people who don't know any better to answer all the snoopy questions on the form. welcome to 4um, charlie
Good point. My guess is they want us to get used to answering to federal agents.
I'm sure your mom and dad taught you not to talk to, or take candy from, strangers. >(;^{)
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. The first census counted the following categories: Free White males of 16 years and upward (to assess the country’s industrial and military potential), free White males under 16 years, free White females, all other free persons (by sex and color), and slaves.
The only real problem anti-immigration types have with the non-whites already here is that they won't adopt Haitians. They "refuse to assimilate." Their "culture is incompatible." THAT is not our problem. I received via email a job alert from indeed.com which included census "enumerator" positions. The link went to a page with info explaining when, where, what, etc. Included there was the PDF practice entrance exam at the following link. Of particular interest was question #7 and #27.
Greetings - a very cool nic.
PSQ with the applicable law in line with the questions
The PSQ is a must-have for us. Spread it far and wide.
Given the penalties for erroneous answers, and your perspectives on how our tax dollars are being spent, I can understand that. Also, the information gathered may be used against you in the future. From a pro-census source: http://www.opencongress.org/wiki/2010_Census In light of opposition from both the Democrats and Republicans, Rep. Carol Maloney has proposed a bill that would make the U.S. Census Bureau an independent establishment like the NIH or NASA. This legislation is also known as Restoring the Integrity of American Statistics Act of 2009. This bill would reestablish the United States Census Bureau as an independent establishment in the executive branch, effective January 1, 2012. It also requires the Bureau Director to be: (1) appointed by the President without regard to political affiliation for a five-year term; and (2) compensated at level II of the Executive Schedule. In addition, this legislation provides for: (1) the transfer of functions, personnel, assets, and liabilities of the Bureau under the Department of Commerce; (2) transition rules; and (3) appointment of an Inspector General for the Bureau. This bill is cosponsored by 10 other representatives and delegates both from the Republican and Democratic parties. [23] Maloney authored and sponsored this bill because the Census Bureau's work is scientific. She stated that it cannot be a stepchild of a larger organization that is subject to budget whims and political storms. [24] On March 3, 2009 the bill was referred to the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. We are now waiting for the Committee to report back. [25] This bill motivates immigrants or minorities to participate in the Census and to make the data more specific and accurate as possible. This bill states that, "In conducting the 2010 decennial census and every decennial census thereafter, the Secretary of Commerce shall include, in any questionnaire distributed or otherwise used for the purpose of determining the total population by States, a checkbox or other similar option by which respondents may indicate Dominican extraction or descent." This legislation was referred to the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform on March 12, 2009. Currently, we are waiting for the Committee to report back. [26] Along with Bill H.R. 1504, this legislation is also being proposed to make the 2010 Census data and any Census data afterwards more specific and accurate. The bill states, "In conducting the 2010 decennial census and every decennial census thereafter, the Secretary of Commerce shall include, in any questionnaire distributed or otherwise used for the purpose of determining the total population by States, a checkbox or other similar option by which respondents may indicate Caribbean extraction or descent." This legislation was referred to the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform on April 23, 2009. We are still waiting for the Committee to report back like the two previous bills. [27]
"they" do not need to haul millions, just a dozen here and there to scare everyone else into 'voluntary compliance'*. They do not care if it makes no sense. * voluntary compliance see: income tax The very essence of tyranny is defined by the blind enforcement of stupid laws. ~Sheriff Richard Mack Several of the questions allegedly involve toilets in your home, others about sleeping habits...NO KIDDING ! Most of these questions are probably geared to assess new taxes, others are going to be sold to marketing firms.."to recoup costs"
great comments. you're dead on. welcome to 4um, unsheepled. love the screen name.
Given a normal life expectancy, this is my next to last census so they can do what they want to me should I err :P Welcome to the 4um!
#6. To: Deasy (#5)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#7. To: wakeup (#0)
#8. To: Deasy (#5)
It may be that the penalties for answering questions incorrectly
#9. To: Eric Stratton (#7)
#10. To: Deasy (#5)
In the eyes of this citizen, the Census as practiced today is unconstitutional.
#11. To: Deasy (#9)
#12. To: wakeup (#10)
#13. To: X-15, All, *libertarians*, *Destroying the Middle Class*, *The Border* (#6)
Handling a Fed contractor/census
#14. To: wakeup (#0)
#15. To: Deasy (#13)
#16. To: Lod (#2)
14. What will be the effect upon me if I should choose to not answer any part or all of these questions?
Lord Acton
#17. To: Deasy (#5)
It may be that the penalties for answering questions incorrectly are much worse than refusing to answer any questions at all.
Lord Acton
#18. To: X-15 (#6)
My occupation: piano player in a whorehouse.
Lord Acton
#19. To: Original_Intent (#14)
#20. To: James Deffenbach (#18)
#21. To: X-15 (#6)
#22. To: Original_Intent (#14)
Just remember that the poor sucker knocking on your door was hired to collect data and likely has very little real knowledge of what is done with it.
#23. To: Eric Stratton (#20)
Precisely what I was thinking!!
Lord Acton
#24. To: Eric Stratton, James Deffenbach (#21)
What kind of tunes are played there?
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#25. To: X-15 (#24)
James, I tell my mother that the job keeps me in practice for the Van Cliburn International Piano Competition.
Lord Acton
#26. To: wakeup (#22)
... I wonder if these guys are technically agents. I say yes.
#27. To: X-15 (#24)
#28. To: Deasy (#13)
nicely done! bump
#29. To: Deasy (#5)
#30. To: christine (#29)
#31. To: Deasy (#30)
#32. To: wakeup (#0)
Great video!
#33. To: sscharliem (#32)
#34. To: sscharliem (#32)
What I don't understand about the census is, if they can mail me a census form with my name and address on it, it seems they already know who I am and where I live - so what's the point?
#35. To: christine (#31)
i won't be stopping to talk to some stranger if they happen to catch me.
Lord Acton
#36. To: wakeup (#0)
Here is my personal copy of the Constitution, please, show where your authority comes cause' all I find in the document is a head count every ten years.
#37. To: Original_Intent (#14)
Just remember that the poor sucker knocking on your door was hired to collect data
#38. To: Pat Riot (#37)
#39. To: Lod, all (#2)
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#40. To: IRTorqued. all (#39)
#41. To: christine (#31)
i won't be stopping to talk to some stranger if they happen to catch me.
Legislation Regarding the Census
#42. To: Jethro Tull (#8)
#43. To: unsheepled (#42)
#44. To: unsheepled (#42)
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