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Title: Austin, Texas Plane Crash 'Oddities'
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Citizens for Legitimate Government
URL Source: http://www.legitgov.org/austin_texas_plane_crash_oddities.html
Published: Feb 19, 2010
Author: Lori Price
Post Date: 2010-02-19 00:24:14 by Original_Intent
Keywords: False, Flag, suicide, pilot
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Comments: 33
Austin Plane Crash Witness: Hazmat, Fire Department In Place Before Crash (Austin News / KXAN.com) 18 Feb 2010 Witness account of the plane crash in NW Austin --'I know that the Fire Department got here real fast, because they actually had an engine sitting over there [pointing] that just happened to be doing something with Hazmat, so they were over here, like, right away.' (Video) Second body found inside Texas building hit by plane --At least 13 people were injured, with two reported in critical condition. 18 Feb 2010 A software engineer furious with the Internal Revenue Service launched a suicide attack on the agency Thursday by crashing his small plane into an office building containing nearly 200 IRS employees... Emergency crews recovered two bodies from the wreckage. The pilot was presumed dead and one worker in the building had been missing. The FBI tentatively identified the pilot as A. Joseph Stack III. "It felt like a bomb blew off," said Peggy Walker, an IRS revenue officer who was sitting at her desk. Andrew Jacobson, an IRS revenue officer who was on the second floor when the plane hit with a "big whoomp" and then a second explosion, said about six people couldn't use the stairwell because of smoke and debris. Manifesto of Joseph Andrew Stack 18 Feb 2010 'If you’re reading this, you’re no doubt asking yourself, 'Why did this have to happen?' The simple truth is that it is complicated and has been coming for a long time... Why is it that a handful of thugs and plunderers can commit unthinkable atrocities (and in the case of the GM executives, for scores of years) and when it’s time for their gravy train to crash under the weight of their gluttony and overwhelming stupidity, the force of the full federal government has no difficulty coming to their aid within days if not hours? Yet at the same time, the joke we call the American medical system, including the drug and insurance companies, are murdering tens of thousands of people a year and stealing from the corpses and victims they cripple, and this country’s leaders don’t see this as important as bailing out a few of their vile, rich cronies... The recent presidential puppet GW Bush and his cronies in their eight years certainly reinforced for all of us that this criticism rings equally true for all of the government.' Man identified as suicide plane pilot used San Marcos address 18 Feb 2010 A man being identified as the pilot of a plane that crashed into an office building used by Internal Revenue Service in Austin this morning has used San Marcos addresses in the past but the extent of his connections to the city are unclear. The Associated Press is quoting a federal law enforcement official saying a man named Joseph Stack flew his Piper Cherokee plane into the Echelon 1 building on Research Boulevard. Stack posted an apparent suicide note to www.embeddedart.com, since removed from the Internet found here, in which he railed against the IRS and other entities. Stack used a San Marcos address, 925 E Hwy 80, when he registered the domain name in 2003. That address corresponds with the SanMar Plaza retail center that is home to a Dollar General, Hastings and Hobby Lobby. Texas crash does not appear to be terrorism-W.House 18 Feb 2010 The White House said the crash of a small plane in the Texas state capital Austin on Thursday did not appear to be terrorism and that President Barack Obama had been briefed about the incident. The Homeland Security Department is looking at investigating all angles of the incident, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs told reporters on board Air Force One before leaving on a trip to Colorado. "It does not appear" to be terrorism, Gibbs said. Small Plane Crashes Into I.R.S. Building in Texas 19 Feb 2010 A man crashed a small plane Thursday morning into a seven-story office building in Austin, Tex., that houses offices of the Internal Revenue Service, the authorities said. The pilot was killed. Two people were hospitalized, and one person was still unaccounted for Thursday afternoon. President Obama was briefed on the situation by his counterterrorism adviser, John O. Brennan, at 12:35 p.m., according to Robert Gibbs, the White House press secretary. But while the Department of Homeland Security was investigating the crash, federal officials emphasized that they did not consider the case to be a terrorist attack. [?] Officials said the crash was being investigated as a crime [because his name is 'Stack' and not ''Muhammad']. Small plane 'intentionally' crashes into Austin, TX, building with FBI, IRS, Echelon offices --Official: Pilot intentionally hit Texas building --Two injuries reported, officials say --199 IRS employees worked in building 18 Feb 2010 FAA officials tell CNN the plane was a Piper Cherokee PA-28. A federal law enforcement official tells CNN that they believe the plane belonged to Joseph Andrew Stack. The Internal Revenue Service in Dallas, Texas, told CNN that the building is a federal IRS outsourced building. It said 199 of its employees work there. CLG: Federal Bureau of Investigation: Austin Resident Office 9420 Research Blvd # Iii400, Austin, TX; Echelon Holdings Ltd 9420 Research Boulevard, Austin, TX. Pilot deliberately crashed into Texas building, official says 28 Feb 2010 The pilot of a small plane that slammed into a building Thursday morning in Austin, Texas, set his house on fire beforehand and then intentionally crashed the aircraft, a federal official told CNN. Federal officials told CNN the plane was a Piper Cherokee PA-28 they believe belonged to Joseph Andrew Stack. Two F-16 fighter jets were sent from Houston as a precaution, but federal authorities said preliminary information did not indicate any terrorist connection to the crash. IRS releases statement on plane crash 18 Feb 2010 A small plane crashed into an office complex occupied mostly by the local Internal Revenue Service this morning on the 9400 block of Research Boulevard. "We can confirm a small plane hit a building in Austin, Texas that includes IRS offices in Echelon Building I that houses about 190 IRS employs. We are still in process accounting for all employees and will update as information is available, " the IRS said in a statement. The city confirmed the Echelon Building at 9430 Research Blvd. was hit.
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Lori said she will post updates on the linked page as they become available.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
that struck me as odd when i read that too.
Eyewitness: Hazmat Teams In Place Before Plane Crash Prison Planet.com Thursday, February 18, 2010 At 2:55, the girl says that Hazmat teams and fire trucks were in place across the street before the building was hit by the plane – a very lucky coincidence indeed.
www.infowars.com/source-f...stin-attack-was-coming-2/ Source: FBI Knew Austin Attack Was Coming Paul Joseph Watson Prison Planet.com Thursday, February 18, 2010 Source: FBI Knew Austin Attack Was Coming A trusted source has told this office that the FBI knew Austin was going to be attacked today and had dispatched officers from its Dallas headquarters yesterday afternoon to be in place for today’s incident. The source claims that a confidential memo was circulated yesterday detailing that a building in Austin was going to be the target of an attack today. He was told this by an informant who works in the Dallas FBI office. Four FBI agents hurriedly left the Dallas office yesterday to be ready and on the scene for the aftermath of the incident, according to the informant, who was shaken when he saw events unfolding today and put two and two together. We cannot confirm the accuracy of the claim but the source is known to us and has no motivation for inventing the story. The fact that pilot Joe Stack changed his manifesto at least 27 times before the final version suggests that he had been writing it for days and this could have been what tipped off the FBI in the build up to the attack. The claim dovetails with reports we are receiving from Austin residents that the FBI were immediately on the scene after the plane crash and were filming both the building and eyewitnesses. A separate witness told KXAN News that there were Hazmat teams and fire trucks in place across the street before the plane struck the building. Infowars reporters who spoke to neighbors at Stack’s house, which he had burned down before crashing the plane, expressed surprise at how quick emergency services responded to the fire. One neighbor, named Elbert, said that emergency crews arrived five minutes after he made the 911 call. Whether the attack was the work of a lone individual or part of a larger set-up, the aftermath is being exploited to the full by the corporate media and people like Glenn Beck, who are blaming the incident on Constitutionalists and the liberty movement, implying that anyone who shares any of the grievances outlined in Stack’s lengthy manifesto are also intent on crashing planes into buildings. Of course, the previous staged terror attack, the Christmas Day underwear bomber incident, was proven to be a set-up and the authorities repeatedly had to change their cover story after eyewitness Kurt Haskell, who was initially derided by the media, was eventually proven right in the fact that the bomber was allowed to board Flight 253 by order of the State Department. Authorities were similarly prepared in advance of the 9/11 attacks in New York City. As part of the Tripod II exercise, FEMA deployed on September 10 to set up a command post at Pier 29 supposedly in preparation for a biowarfare exercise scheduled for September 12. We are providing the following tip line for people in Austin to send their eyewitness and news tips about this incident to us. The number is 512-646-4444.
that struck me as odd when i read that too. As with any incident like this look to the earliest accounts - before the spin is put in to try to get the most reliable data. Yes, as far as the comment it is almost like one of those Imus "what doesn't fit and why" spoofs.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
This is one of those "Stay Tuned" type of events. It could be legit but it could also be another PsyOp.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
I totally agree. We may know more in the near future.
If it was a psyop, it would be classified as terrorism rather than a crime. This story will be buried in short time. Psyops drag on for years. We're still hearing about Hitler, for instance.
There is more than one kind of PsyOp for more than one kind of effect. While I have nothing definite to support it my thoughts were playing with if it was a PsyOp was it done as a pressure relief valve PsyOp - with the delayed effect of getting people to tell themselves "nope I'm not going to do anything like that".
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
interesting, thanks
#4. To: mcgowanjm (#2) # # CNN: Pilot set fire to his home in Austin and then stole plane from airport. KXAN: Tentatively identified at Joseph Stack. Somebody was pissed at the IRS. But definitely not terror. We know that for sure. He wasn't Muslim for starters. 8D The reason Stack's attack does not appear to be terrorism is simple. It was successful. Had Joe Stack failed, only then would it be billed as terrorism. Can't have the DHS actually failing to protect anyone from terrorism, can we?
Had Stack mentioned Jews instead of Catholics, and referenced illegals rather than downtrodden immigrants, he'd currently be in Timothy McVeigh territory today. That he didn't use those words in his note and that he lived in a mixed N. Austin neighborhood, makes Mr Stack hard to ID with the political right, hard as they might. Stack was neither right or left, he was simply dead on with his assessment of the state of American government as it exists today.
I also found it a little odd that the guy's home was burnt down. You don't suppose it was to cover up his murder, perhaps, do you, or maybe the fact there was nothing to tie him to this other than the online posting, which any of the spooks could have put up. [I don't have an opinion at this point, just wondering.] I was watching the jewtube this morning where this "selfish" man killing innocent people [this being said just before they launched into the news of ZOG's "successes" in Afghanistan and Iraq, where ZOG has murdered millions of innocents], was said to cause complete surprise in his fellow band-members, who said he showed no signs of animosity toward anyone. Next they had an FBI profiler on. Maybe they're going to work up to mandating "preventative detention" for anyone who has ever posted an angry word against ZOG, "ISRAEL", Banksters, IRS, or the Jews [has anyone commented on the "POUND OF FLESH" comment? I found that one a little odd, as well.]. Shylock - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Neo-British Empire of the Crown - 500 Year Chronology ....still, what? TAKING THEIR POUND OF FLESH? ".....This brief identifies the chains with which they, the Merchants of Venice, their direct descendants and their lackeys, have used to make, we the people of North America into debt slaves. The Merchants of Venice bastardized the many courts of Europe during the Middle Ages so as to effect their continued control, which they had established during the period after the collapse of the Roman Empire, up to the Dark Ages and through the Middle Ages period. In 1776 (as indicated on the symbolic pyramid on the Federal Reserve $1.00 note), the continuation of their control was revealed as the Illuminati. This was the grand organization (or, re-organization, as they would have us believe) of the Masonic Lodge. The direct effect on us was their influence in the various mixings of the Law of the Sea with the Law of the Land in the British Limited Monarchy system. The situation is as a frog immersed in cold water brought slowly to a boil; the poor creature doesn't recognize the temperature change and cooks unaware. In the latter half of another webpage I have posted on the internet, I explain how the British Monarchy has exchanged the Anglo-Saxon Common Law, based solely upon God's Law - the Golden Rule - 'Do not unto others as you would not have them do unto you', for British (so-called) Common Law, a form of Roman Civil Law. Find it here: Treason The "Founding Fathers" of the USA were all Masons, a commonly known fact. A recent revelation shows that the Constitution of the USA is "Ultra Vires" because it was never ratified -- by either the Committee of The States, or, more appropriately, by the People. Those signing as "witness" after Article VII were members of a committee to draft the Constitution. Witnessing would be the procedure to show unanimous approval of the draft by the committee members involved. The next step should have been "approval" by the Committee of the States, the representative organization of the States mandated in the Articles of Confederation, Section 5 (AD1777). The final step should have been a "ratification" vote by the eligible voters in all the States concerned. There is no evidence that the latter two steps ever took place, thus making the present Constitution of the USA an unratified draft. Instead, it was only ratified by the corporate officers (Legislatures) of the incorporated States. Americans have been deceived into believing that those they elect into State legislatures and Congress are 'representatives' of the people. They are only 'representatives' of that portion of the deck (voting district) of the make-believe ship - corporate body politic for which they become corporate officers. Their total allegiance is to the 'captain' - governor of the make-believe ship. The Protocols of Zion, the gameplan of the Illuminati and their One World Government movement was apparently brought to public attention as early as 1785. In that program, the plans were set forth to thwart nationalism and common law societies by many devious ways, including the use of Masonry. Were George Washington and his close associates -- all Masons -- involved in the plan to scuttle the Union and the Common Law society destined for the People of North America? It is quite obvious that the Government of Canada has been using similar tactics to enslave the people of Canada; and, to turn over this country's raw materials to the Overlords who hold the economic strings which control it. The BNA Act of 1867 did not confederate Canada. It only combined four British colonies into one colony, the Dominion (Colony) of Canada. The government was a dictatorship, a Governor General and Council (Canada's Parliament). The status of Canada was similar to that of a ship of the British Admiralty. The status of the people of Canada was similar to sailors on a ship of the British Admiralty; not that of an English freeman. In 1931, the Statute of Westminster effectively decommissioned the colonies of the British Empire just as they would decommission outdated ships of the Admiralty. Canada was taken over by a usurper clique of financial barons (with Rothchild empire connections and allegiances) at that time, supposedly under the "right of salvage": and, no change has taken place since then. . . . . At the time of writing of this document, the author was obviously unaware of the status of "US citizen". As originally conceived, the States were independent countries tied together by a pact or treaty in which certain sovereign states rights were given over to a federal government; first in the Articles of Confederation, and then more succinctly in the Constitution of the USA. Each person born within a State or naturalized in a State was a citizen of that State; and then by the "commonality clause" of the Constitution, a citizen of the other States -- a citizen of the USA. For eminent domain purposes, so that the Federal Government could purchase land (Louisiana Purchase and Alaska Purchase) and enter into international treaties, a piece of land (a Federal State) was provided for in the Constitution (a necessity arising out of the rules governing eminent domain). Since the Federal Government was not given any Saxon Common Law jurisdiction in the Constitution (whether this was by oversight or by designing scheme, considering later circumstance, remains for conjecture) -- but only Maritime jurisdiction, the people within such a federal state (Washington, DC) come under Maritime law. In legal terms, United States only means the District of Columbia, some territories, and navy bases. The United States of America is the combined 50 States. The 14th Amendment to the US Constitution was supposedly inserted to give the black slaves citizenship which was denied to them by the States; but, in fact, what the 14th Amendment did was just transfer ownership from the private slave owners to the US Federal Government. It seems that the schemers have multi-layered the traps to ensnare the unwary People into Admiralty jurisdiction. Beyond what the author has revealed in his research within this paper, later research shows other methods. The result would be that one argument would clip one strand of the noose; but, two or three others would still be fatal in and before a Court of Admiralty. For example: Through interpretations of the Fourteenth Amendment and the Social Security Act (the act of applying for and receiving a Social Security Number being the binder of the contract), a USA citizen also becomes a US citizen. The former has Common Law RIGHTS, the latter has Maritime PRIVILEGE. The author adequately covers the differences in Common Law and Maritime Law. The former citizenship you were born or "naturalized" into; the latter, you were hoodwinked into. In the USA, you have the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC). You should become "very" familiar with UCC 1-207; as well as UCC 1-103.6. Therein lies your protection and recourse when you are subject to any issue that falls into Admiralty jurisdiction on land - that is, unless the judge, whom you confront, decides that it is for the 'good' of the ship - the body politic that he invoke the 'notwithstanding clause' and disregard even this protection clause. END..." Part Thirteen of the British System http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/cmlaw13.htm Revelation 17:12-13 - Part I: Reconstructing the Tower of Babel If "they" killed him, I sincerely hope it back-fires on them.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
Here we go again. Is there nothing the FBI isn't aware of? This is pure rumor and has the best chance of being "psy-op" material. A trusted source? Please... Okay, so they supposedly knew a building in Austin was going to be attacked, so they "circulated a memo" about it in their office. The gov works on a "need to know" basis in distributing/handling confidential info. I've held a security clearance in the military half a lifetime ago (or maybe a whole lifetime ago) and I know that circulating a memo like that is poor security. Another "pull- ease...". Who are we trusting here? Okay, it tipped them off, even though the final manifesto doesn't mention any details of the nature of the attack he would conduct. So how did they know a building would be attacked from the manifesto? On it's face, there would be no reason for Joe Stack to mention attack details. Okay, so we went from knowing a building in Austin would be attacked to knowing exactly *which* building would be attacked. How did they know, and which Austin residents report this? More anonymous sources? It could easily be the case. Firemen do training on occasion. Big deal. How far away is the fire station? No offense, TT, but if everything is called a conspiracy, then nothing is a conspiracy. It just wrecks the credibility of incidents where there is real credibility of government schemes, and there's none here. I think we have to use some common sense in discerning the likelihood of each incident being something other than it appears, and I don't believe the FBI is all knowing. Consider Joe Stack was a software engineer. In typing this up, he certainly would have been prudent in ensuring he could do so on his PC without any risk of the FBI getting wind of it through spyware or anything else. He somehow had it posted on the net, and it's my guess he had a software program put it on line only after a certain delay to ensure his attack would be a surprise. Obviously he would have had to xfer his manifesto over the net at some point, but basic encryption would have worked, and frankly, there's really no keywords in his manifesto that would have likely triggered any alarms in the NSA even if it was unencrypted (is there?)
griffi94 (1000+ posts) Fri Feb-19-10 05:17 AM His name was Joe Stack I won't defend what he did because there's no defense of it, but Joe wasn't a teabagger he wasn't left or right wing. He very obviously had some serious problems and it's a real tragedy especially for the innocent victims, but the manifesto was all over the board politically. Joe played in my band for about 3 years and was mostly apolitical. I hate what he did and had no idea at the level of dispair he was feeling. I've now spent the last 30 hours answering questions about what he was like. He obviously cracked....severly, but any political militancy he had was recent and seems to suggest mental illness rather than activism. Again I'm not defending what he did I'm just telling you what it looks like from my end. People who say they knew him are spinning on places like DU. Just thought you might find this interesting.
I agree. His manifesto is extremely lucid, and will challenge anyone who reads it fairly.
I also found it a little odd that the guy's home was burnt down. Considering that the victims would sue his estate for damages, it kinda makes sense to leave no value in the estate. He was already broke otherwise, and the bank likely has first dibs on what's left of the property.
That makes sense. I just figured maybe he didn't want to leave anything for the IRS.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
Interesting point. Yes, bad for the ongoing Scarrorism PsyOp, not to mention justifying the existence of the American Stasi, to admit failure.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
That raises a couple of questions. Did he have any kids? Anyone who would have noted a change in character in the run-up to this? Someone with few connections would be easier to put a post-hypnotic implant into and not have it noticed. Not saying that is what it was but just examining the different facets. We know he was estranged from his wife.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
We know he was estranged from his wife. hmmm....now that you mention it, i think they did say something about his wife complaining to her family about him...but i don't remember if it was about his mental state becoming "lethal", or just plain frustration with the government. wish i could remember exactly what they said about that....i don't remember which station it was...i was watching for a little while before i noticed it was cnn and switched to faux....and i didn't know he was estranged from his wife.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
Agreed.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
I believe it was mentioned in passing in one of the articles tha twas posted yesterday.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
wild thought.... Mossad has been licensed to kill in US and allied countries.... ".. Mysterious Killing of CIA's Roland Carnaby ... was a Mossad hit, just like the one on the Austin professor who was suicided, ... " - infowars. Wayne Madsen has said Houston is a Mossad cess-pool....how far to Austin?....what do we know about Georgetown Municipal Airport? or his mechanic? Just thinking, Flight 77 made a blip over Rockefeller's WVA, where there is a commercial-MILITARY airport. I read somewhere there was a similar airport near the towers. What's Dov Zakheim up to these days?
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
I believe it was mentioned in passing in one of the articles tha twas posted yesterday. i'm just playing catch-up...yesterday i was reading some stuff i've had on here for a couple of days....stuff like how the church was infiltrated by the Jews with their leaven, long before Scofield, how their corrupted Bible revisions were distributed throughout the world, and evidence of how the PTB were plotting to make Palestine a homeland for the Jews back in 1816.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
I think a daughter was mentioned. Mainstream media was quoting band member associates as saying they never had any clue he had any issues with the IRS. Not a word. Two possibilities: He kept it all to himself because that's just what he wanted to do, or his associates are simply claiming ignorance to protect themselves in the aftermath.
Ditto for our local government shill on WBAP 820, Mark Davis. He's been damning Stack and his grievances and practically cursing any callers who dared to disagree with him.
_________________________________________________________________________ Small plane 'intentionally' crashes into Austin, TX, building with FBI, IRS, Echelon offices --Official: Pilot intentionally hit Texas building --Two injuries reported, officials say --199 IRS employees worked in building 18 Feb 2010 FAA officials tell CNN the plane was a Piper Cherokee PA-28. A federal law enforcement official tells CNN that they believe the plane belonged to Joseph Andrew Stack. The Internal Revenue Service in Dallas, Texas, told CNN that the building is a federal IRS outsourced building. It said 199 of its employees work there. CLG: Federal Bureau of Investigation: Austin Resident Office 9420 Research Blvd # Iii400, Austin, TX; Echelon Holdings Ltd 9420 Research Boulevard, Austin, TX. note to self.....lose windows and check this out.... Congress Holdings Group - Austin, Texas (TX) | Company Profile "...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
Ditto for our local government shill on WBAP 820, Mark Davis. He's been damning Stack and his grievances and practically cursing any callers who dared to disagree with him. I can feel the friction everywhere.
one of two radio stations I listen to Republic Broadcasting Network the other is Rule of Law Radio
Even if it wasn't a planned PsyOp they are sure making use of it for PsyOps now. The growing sense of rebellion is almost palpable in its increasing presence. The PTB want to nip this before it grows beyond their control. Why people might even get the silly notion that they are and of rights ought to be free. And you can see where that kind of thinking leads. "One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Considering that the victims would sue his estate for damages, it kinda makes sense to leave no value in the estate. He was already broke otherwise, and the bank likely has first dibs on what's left of the property. http://www.insurancejournal.com/ While Stack apparently acted alone, terrorism exclusion issues might arise in the course of determining insurance liability for both the plane and the damaged building, said an attorney with expertise in insurance coverage issues. Exclusions might apply if the act is considered to be domestic terror or an "attack based on some form of civil disobedience/political oriented mischief," said Brian Martin, an attorney with the Texas-based law firm, Thompson, Coe, Cousins and Irons. He said an attack on the IRS might be construed as being politically oriented. As to the house, even if it is determined that the fire was started as an intentional act by the homeowner, the spouse may not be without recourse when it comes to insurance coverage. Texas has an "innocent spouse" rule, said Beth D. Bradley, an attorney with Tollefson Bradley Ball & Mitchell L.L.P., who also has a specialty in insurance coverage. As long as the spouse is not found to be complicit in the intentional act or try to cover it up, she should be eligible for half of the coverage amount under Texas' community property law, Bradley said.
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The recent presidential puppet GW Bush and his cronies in their eight years certainly reinforced for all of us that this criticism rings equally true for all of the government.'
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The recent presidential puppet GW Bush and his cronies in their eight years certainly reinforced for all of us that this criticism rings equally true for all of the government.'
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This is one of those "Stay Tuned" type of events. It could be legit but it could also be another PsyOp.
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"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
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Texas crash does not appear to be terrorism-W.House 18 Feb 2010 The White House said the crash of a small plane in the Texas state capital Austin on Thursday did not appear to be terrorism and that President Barack Obama had been briefed about the incident. The Homeland Security Department is looking at investigating all angles of the incident, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs told reporters on board Air Force One before leaving on a trip to Colorado. "It does not appear" to be terrorism, Gibbs said.
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Plane Crash 'Oddities'
In The Merchant of Venice, Shylock is a Jewish moneylender who lends money to his Christian rival, Antonio, setting the bond at a pound of Antonio's flesh. ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shylock
Shakespeare writes the "Merchant of Venice" to humanize Jews and cautiously soften attitudes toward Jews who are still ..... http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/update03.htm
It is this same debt-money system that the merchants of Venice use to rule and impoverish the world today .... The distinction between the "Black Nobility", specifically the British Royal Family, ..... www.biblebelievers.biz/bb980304.htm
#15. To: TwentyTwelve (#4)
Source: FBI Knew Austin Attack Was Coming
A trusted source has told this office that the FBI knew Austin was going to be attacked today and had dispatched officers from its Dallas headquarters yesterday afternoon to be in place for today’s incident.
The source claims that a confidential memo was circulated yesterday detailing that a building in Austin was going to be the target of an attack today. He was told this by an informant who works in the Dallas FBI office.
Four FBI agents hurriedly left the Dallas office yesterday to be ready and on the scene for the aftermath of the incident, according to the informant, who was shaken when he saw events unfolding today and put two and two together.
We cannot confirm the accuracy of the claim but the source is known to us and has no motivation for inventing the story.
The fact that pilot Joe Stack changed his manifesto at least 27 times before the final version suggests that he had been writing it for days and this could have been what tipped off the FBI in the build up to the attack.
The claim dovetails with reports we are receiving from Austin residents that the FBI were immediately on the scene after the plane crash and were filming both the building and eyewitnesses.
A separate witness told KXAN News that there were Hazmat teams and fire trucks in place across the street before the plane struck the building.
Infowars reporters who spoke to neighbors at Stack’s house, which he had burned down before crashing the plane, expressed surprise at how quick emergency services responded to the fire. One neighbor, named Elbert, said that emergency crews arrived five minutes after he made the 911 call.
#16. To: christine (#2)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=7747831&mesg_id=7747831
Toruk Makto
#17. To: Jethro Tull (#13)
Stack was neither right or left, he was simply dead on with his assessment of the state of American government as it exists today.
#18. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#14)
#19. To: Pinguinite (#18)
Considering that the victims would sue his estate for damages, it kinda makes sense to leave no value in the estate. He was already broke otherwise, and the bank likely has first dibs on what's left of the property.
#20. To: Pinguinite (#12)
Had Joe Stack failed, only then would it be billed as terrorism. Can't have the DHS actually failing to protect anyone from terrorism, can we?
#21. To: Pinguinite, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#18)
Considering that the victims would sue his estate for damages, it kinda makes sense to leave no value in the estate. He was already broke otherwise, and the bank likely has first dibs on what's left of the property.
#22. To: Original_Intent (#21)
Anyone who would have noted a change in character in the run-up to this?
#23. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#14)
If "they" killed him, I sincerely hope it back-fires on them.
#24. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#22)
...and i didn't know he was estranged from his wife.
#25. To: Original_Intent (#0)
#26. To: Original_Intent (#24)
...and i didn't know he was estranged from his wife.
#27. To: Original_Intent (#21)
Did he have any kids? Anyone who would have noted a change in character in the run-up to this?
#28. To: TwentyTwelve (#4)
(Edited)
aftermath is being exploited to the full by the corporate media and people like Glenn Beck, who are blaming the incident on Constitutionalists and the liberty movement, implying that anyone who shares any of the grievances outlined in Stack’s lengthy manifesto are also intent on crashing planes into buildings.
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#29. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#0)
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#30. To: X-15 (#28)
aftermath is being exploited to the full by the corporate media and people like Glenn Beck, who are blaming the incident on Constitutionalists and the liberty movement, implying that anyone who shares any of the grievances outlined in Stack’s lengthy manifesto are also intent on crashing planes into buildings.
#31. To: X-15, all (#28)
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#32. To: TwentyTwelve (#30)
"When in the course of human events ..."
#33. To: Pinguinite, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#18)
I also found it a little odd that the guy's home was burnt down.
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