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Title: CPAC - Where Are Conservatives Going?
Source: townhall.com
URL Source: http://townhall.com/columnists/Jill ... _where_are_conservatives_going
Published: Feb 20, 2010
Author: Jillian Bandes
Post Date: 2010-02-20 08:05:59 by Eric Stratton
Keywords: None
Views: 527
Comments: 10

CPAC - Where Are Conservatives Going?
Jillian Bandes
Friday, February 19, 2010

What does it say that Ron Paul enjoyed a bigger audience than anyone else at CPAC?

"Let us take this opportunity to address those of you who disagree: all I ask you to do is think seriously about it," said Paul. "Think about it and study it and put it in context."

What does want them to think about?

Abolishing the fed. Abolishing the income tax. Leaving the United Nations. And abolishing all but a shell version of the military.

People clapped for the fiscal stuff. They also clapped for the defense stuff — unenthusiastically.

"I hope [my speech] is challenging, because we are in challenging times," said Paul.

Paulism, and other forms of back-to-basics conservatism, are either part of the undercurrent of CPAC 2010, or the main event. No one seems to be able to decide. J.D. Hayworth and Marco Rubio — two Republicans who are bucking the mainstream GOP and venturing out on their own — found welcoming arms here. But so did Mitt Romney, and Rep. Mike Pence, two establishment politicos who are nothing if not reflective of establishment Republicanism.

The situation at CPAC is a perfect mirror for the question everyone is asking: what the heck is going on with the GOP?

"I am the Republican Senator from Massachusetts," said Scott Brown, in a surprise appearance yesterday. "Let me say that again: I am the Republican Senator from Massachusetts."

If CPAC was held in mid-January before the election, Brown wouldn't have said that. Identifying with hard-core, CPAC Republicanism would've been the quickest way to make his Senate bid a failure. Brown's moderate appeal won because it stayed undercover, with secret help from the National Republican Campaign Committee.

The common theme at CPAC was: "Let's keep the real conservatives in the party, and kick the RINO's out."

"Three years ago, Republicans didn't just lose the majority: they lost their way," said Pence. "I warned them."

"The good news is that the core conservatives, in Congress... they are beginning to listen," said talk show host Herman Cain.

That theme was reiterated by Mitt Romney, John Boehner, and Tom Price. But they all seemed to capitalize on recent victories where either the moderate Republican won, where the Democratic incumbent simply wasn't reliable, or in states that traditionally swing against the party in power after that party's approval ratings drop below 50 percent.

"I think when we've achieved the kinds of results we've achieved in places like Virginia, New Jersey, and Massachusettes, the sky is the limit here. I think 2010 is going to be a phenomenal year. And I think Barack Obama is a one-term President," said Liz Cheney.

It may be a phenomenal year. But the GOP needs to figure out how it's going to spin it.

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-20   8:13:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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Freedom = good

Party Politics = bad

Constitution = litmus test

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-20   8:34:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-20   8:38:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

People clapped for the fiscal stuff. They also clapped for the defense stuff — unenthusiastically.

There is an intelligence and integrity gap in what used to be known as the 'Conservative Movement' which is now nothing but NEOCON fodder...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-20   9:15:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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noone222 = brilliant


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-20   9:17:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-20   10:31:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

CPAC -Where Are Conservatives Going?

They are being replaced by big government, war mongering establishment Republicans like this:

The only way the Tea Party folks can get any credibility is to ditch the Paultards and the losers like Baldwin.

Sven Golly posted on 2010-02-19 22:04:22 ET Reply Trace

Then of course there is yukon and Magician.

They are also being replaced by the ignorant like out damned spot, Sweetjustusnow, Mad Dog and many others on LP who bitch left and right about the Republican Party while at the same time embracing their agenda. I haven't figured out what they have to bitch about. They are all pro war and pro-police state. It seems that for them the whole issue boils down to the fact that they do not want to pay the taxes required to fund the perpetual wars and police state infrastructure they support. They seem to be intellectually incapable of grasping the FACT that you cannot have small government and perpetual war and a police state infrastructure. Period. It cannot be done.

Very few on either side of the aisle seem able to understand that the warfare-welfare state is not sustainable without massive amounts of taxes to pay for it. We cannot borrow the money forever and we cannot continue to print money out of thin air. The laws of economics are not going to go away just because they refuse to face reality. The scarcity principle is alive and well and no amount of wishing on the part of the ignorant or legislation on the part of Congress is going to change that.

There is no such thing as a free lunch.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-02-20   11:15:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-20   14:15:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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They are also being replaced by the ignorant like out damned spot, Sweetjustusnow, Mad Dog and many others on LP who bitch left and right about the Republican Party while at the same time embracing their agenda. I haven't figured out what they have to bitch about. They are all pro war and pro-police state. It seems that for them the whole issue boils down to the fact that they do not want to pay the taxes required to fund the perpetual wars and police state infrastructure they support. They seem to be intellectually incapable of grasping the FACT that you cannot have small government and perpetual war and a police state infrastructure. Period. It cannot be done.

As a perfect example of what I mean, look at this post from Moldi-Box. It's all part of making America part of the NAFTA borderless region.

By making all of our business and commercial interests co-dependant on other nations, we cannot exert our NATIONAL SOVEREIGNTY.

It's all a plan to destroy our National Sovereignty.

We need to extricate ourselves from all foreign interests.

The easiest way to get out of this carefully woven entrapment would be to:

* give huge tax breaks to all American companies, and those without any subsidiaries overseas (No Taxes at all)

* Then to scale it down by 50% for those who have subs overseas, . (50% corporate taxes

* Zero tax break for those based overseas

*International companies operating here would get no tax break,

* those who were just importing their products here would get an International Sales tax attached to the selling price.

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That tax structure would be step 1.

This woman is just one giant mass of confusion. She is and has been avidly pro-war (as all Israeli-firsters are), yet in this post she talks about "extricating ourselves from all foreign interests," as if the wars she support aren't foreign interests. Then she talks about cutting taxes.

She is a complete moron who is mentally incapable of seeing the logical inconsistencies in her statements. She wants perpetual war and a police state while at the same time bitching about taxes. She also routinely bitches about deficits and the fed printing money. Of course she gives no hint of how she wants to pay for her wars and police state.

If people like her didn't have such a negative influence on the country, I'd feel sorry for her. Instead, I feel nothing but loathing and disgust that someone this stupid is allowed to vote.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-02-21   19:03:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-21   20:24:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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