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Title: Debra Medina agrees that 9/11 truthers' beliefs are 'despicable' (AUDIO)
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Debra Medina agrees that 9/11 truthers' beliefs are 'despicable' (AUDIO) After being interviewed by Glenn Beck and characterized by the talk show host as a '9/11/ Truther', Debra Medina issued a statement Feb. 11 on her website regarding the Beck interview. She stated in part, "I have never been involved with the 9/11 truth movement, and there is no doubt in my mind that Muslim terrorists flew planes into those buildings on 9/11. I have not seen any evidence nor have I ever believed that our government was involved or directed those individuals in any way.... The real underlying question here, though, is whether or not people have the right to question our government. I think the fact that people are even asking questions on this level gets to the incredible distrust career politicians have fostered ..." Questioned by Dallas talk show host Mark Davis last week, Medina had stronger and more derisive views of 9/11 truthers, agreeing with the host that anyone who dare would believe that the U.S. government was involved in the 2001 attack is "despicable'. Partial transcript: Davis: "...it would have been over in a day, if after the Beck thing, you'd have said boy, I'm sorry, I messed up. I should've identified this 9/11 truther movement as the despicable paranoid cult that they are, what a horrible hateful belief to have in your head that 9/11 was an inside job. Why didnt you do that? [ARTICLE CONTINUES HERE
February 21, 11:57 PM
LA County Libertarian Examiner Martin Hill
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Related: Glenn Beck does a hit job on Debra Medina on his show this morning
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 She should have left well enough alone and said that all she told Beck was that people still had questions about it. And if she had wanted to go just a bit farther than that she could have said that even some of the commissioners of the 9/11 Commission had called for a new, independent investigation (and then be prepared to name them and source the quotes). She could have done herself some good but as it is she is shooting her own foot. At least that is how it seems to me.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Another politician falls to the Jewish - end of story.
These talk show pundits are propaganda specialists. Medina's handlers are telling her to back away from the 9-11 truth issue altogether. Listening to this Talk pundit (Mark Davis) begin the interview, he loads the conversation with the Beck-Medina 9-11 truther stuff commenting that he only wants to clarify her position and then he throws in the "despicable" terminology twice ... he guided the conversation and she followed. It would not have done her any good to begin that interview with an argument with the host, however I do think she may have handled the issue without sounding as if truthers were "despicable" ... The host introduced the despicable term as applying to anyone that would even think that George Bush and Dick Cheney would SLAUGHTER 3000 Americans as an excuse to enter war against Iraq. While many of us here may think that's exactly what happened (I'm one of those "despicable" types) many truthers are simply asking for a new and complete investigation to get at the truth, which a majority on the 9-11 Commission admitted was incomplete and error filled because the intel agents and agencies lied. I'd like to see Medina get elected and start an intense investigation into the Kennedy Assassination focusing on George Herbert Walker Bush. All of the terror that has taken place since Kennedy was murdered is related and has been orchestrated by the same rogue elements of the CIA-MOSSAD-MI-6 ... banker owned Intelligence Agencies with old man Bush directing much of it. That bastard needs to be tried and hung.
Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.
Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
Well, I have a poor track record of donating money to Texas politicians, first Paul and now Medina. On the surface it seems Medina is also all hat and no cattle like Paul, or am I reading this wrong?
You're not reading anything wrong, OM. Same song, second verse, a little bit louder, and a whole lot worse. Edit: That little stunt RP pulled on us cured me of ever donating to a politician ever again, TX or elsewhere. That really busted my onions. I'll not be fooled again.
I was just up and a tad foggy. Awake now and read the transcript. I am not a full time truther in many asp;ects but I do believe our government was involved in some fashion. Beyond that, how can she run on an anti government platform if she would deny millions of Americans the right to question the government. I suspect the "influence" has arrived. When the Beck ambush happened I said the only thing she could do was to attack Beck, when she did not I suspected we had been had yet again. Oh, well, I am not a virgin at this.
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My donating threshold will be raised much higher. Lod and Christine were convinced and that was good enough for me.
Agreed. The only question is not if, but when. I wont be here to see it or live it, just as well.
Medina: "Yeah I um, I agree with ya Mark, I laughed it off whenever he said I was a truther cause I thought it was so absurd and i should have just said NO, absolutely I'm not a truther. I think it's abundantly clear I'm not a truther; um ya know those things happen to us and we pick up say should've done that better, move on, and that's what we've done." Later the host continues "someone walking around with the belief that America would do this to its' own people .. that president Bush and those around him would slaughter our own citizens in order to justify war , is a despicable thing to believe. Medina: "Agreed!" Davis: "And you want to be on record as agreeing with that?" Medina: "Agreed . yeah"...I'm..I...I was thinking in terms of the commission report, not in terms of what, ya know, individuals are out there doing, and the commission report is the thing that I was getting back to. Oh boy, time to send in ANOTHER 100 bux everyone ??? /s
This is why we need to start our own economy, totally apart from the "official" economy. But it won't happen until more are feeling the pain.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Alex Jones is the Robert Tilton of the conspiracy world. ~Mister Clean Live free or I am looking for an email addy to ask for my money back. First time I have ever done that.
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Heart.
Right, it's time to disband the federal government. That's the ONLY solution I'll get behind. I've had it with politics. The crooks deliberately creating the problems have no intention of changing their course, and anyone who can't see that by now, is functionally retarded.
Your heart good enough to aim and squeeze a few more times ?
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Medina: "Agreed!" I hope all the 2010er believers wake up pretty soon themselves...
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No Sir. Day to day.
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I don't get you folks. She clearly dissed you and you still support her. You say he did a hatchet job on her. What the fuck are you talking about. He gave her the opportunity before a large audience to talk about 911 truth. And you guys call it a hatchet job. Then she calls you idiots and you still want to vote for her. I can maybe understand wanting to vote for her. But why dis Beck for bringing up a relevant question?
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Oddly enough, it once was, now I just dont know. At this station in life, nothing looks the same as in the past, and that is just what one does...review the past, in doing so there is much more clarity, more understanding. Actually it gives one a vantage point beyond others. All that was trivial and meaningless is swept away, the truth stands out.
I got an early vibe on this one. Red flag when you don't have 911 figured out in 2010 OR don't have the courage of standing up to the mother fuckers...which category medina falls into I don't know but it's one of the two.
When Beck did his thing, I made the statement that the only recourse Medina had was to attack Beck. Issuing clarifying "statements" is a sure sign of a loser. Still looking for my money back.
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Can you quote my exactly what Beck said that was so upsetting to you? By the way. Bless your heart.
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"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
Day to day. don't give up Cyni. Curing With Cayenne - Amazing healing power of cayenne pepper and bump to what Eric Stratton said.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
She should have followed her instincts, and stayed with them.
I want my money back. Lets see if she remits.
Hey, Lod, is this the person you forwarded one of my posts to? THANKS A LOT!!! [lol....just kidding....i have a feeling i was on their list before that.]
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
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Ron Paul just committed political suicide on CNBC a little bit ago, going on about how we shouldn't be in the Middle East fighting Izzy's wars, and how we should leave Iran alone, etc. He won't be pulling the ye olde switcheroo on us this next election.
I resemble that remark...
Ron Paul actually put this out there ? He's not going to be the media darling no mas...
I wonder if all future politicians can be asked their thoughts on Pearl Harbor?
...and the Lusitania ?
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Lord Acton
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Debra Medina agrees that 9/11 truthers' beliefs are 'despicable'
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#7. To: Eric Stratton (#6)
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#8. To: Cynicom (#7)
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...or am I reading this wrong?
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
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#10. To: Esso, Cynicom (#8)
#11. To: Esso, Lod, christine (#8)
That really busted my onions. I'll not be fooled again.
#12. To: Eric Stratton, Esso (#10)
Rather, I see millions of deaths for one reason or another, some self induced like martial law, perhaps others from starvation or nukes, who knows, but I'm more and more starting to see little if anything positive ever for us as a civilization.
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Davis: "...it would have been over in a day, if after the Beck thing, you'd have said boy, I'm sorry, I messed up. I should've identified this 9/11 truther movement as the despicable paranoid cult that they are, what a horrible hateful belief to have in your head that 9/11 was an inside job. Why didnt you do that?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#14. To: Eric Stratton (#10)
People looking for work now aren't going to find it for years. That's simply too long for people not prepared to live that long on what they now have. I expect those problems to begin burgeoning to unignorable levels by the end of the year.
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Oh boy, time to send in ANOTHER 100 bux everyone ??? /s
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#17. To: Eric Stratton (#16)
#18. To: Eric Stratton, Cynicom (#10)
I'm tellin' ya, the only thing that's gonna save current generations of Americans is a redeal of our nation's government, "abolishing it" as the Declaration of Independence states.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
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"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
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#21. To: Cynicom (#15)
Later the host continues "someone walking around with the belief that America would do this to its' own people .. that president Bush and those around him would slaughter our own citizens in order to justify war , is a despicable thing to believe.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
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#23. To: Rotara (#19)
Your heart good enough to aim and squeeze a few more times ? Your heart good enough to aim and squeeze a few more times ?
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#25. To: noone222, lod, christine (#4)
#26. To: Eric Stratton (#22)
Your faith is in Christ, correct?
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funtionally retarded
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
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When Beck did his thing, I made the statement that the only recourse Medina had was to attack Beck.
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#32. To: Cynicom, Eric Stratton (#23)
No Sir.
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#35. To: Artisan, Lod (#0)
Debra Medina agrees that 9/11 truthers' beliefs are 'despicable' (AUDIO)
#36. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Cynicom (#32)
#37. To: Cynicom (#34)
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#38. To: Cynicom (#28)
Issuing clarifying "statements" is a sure sign of a loser.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#39. To: Esso (#37)
going on about how we shouldn't be in the Middle East fighting Izzy's wars
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#40. To: Cynicom (#34)
#41. To: Jethro Tull (#40)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
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