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Title: Debra Medina agrees that 9/11 truthers' beliefs are 'despicable' (AUDIO)
Source: EXAMINER
URL Source: http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x- ... s-beliefs-are-despicable-AUDIO
Published: Feb 22, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-02-22 03:00:31 by Artisan
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Debra Medina agrees that 9/11 truthers' beliefs are 'despicable' (AUDIO)
February 21, 11:57 PM
LA County Libertarian Examiner Martin Hill

After being interviewed by Glenn Beck and characterized by the talk show host as a '9/11/ Truther',

Debra Medina issued a statement Feb. 11 on her website regarding the Beck interview. She stated in part, "I have never been involved with the 9/11 truth movement, and there is no doubt in my mind that Muslim terrorists flew planes into those buildings on 9/11. I have not seen any evidence nor have I ever believed that our government was involved or directed those individuals in any way.... The real underlying question here, though, is whether or not people have the right to question our government. I think the fact that people are even asking questions on this level gets to the incredible distrust career politicians have fostered ..."

Questioned by Dallas talk show host Mark Davis last week, Medina had stronger and more derisive views of 9/11 truthers, agreeing with the host that anyone who dare would believe that the U.S. government was involved in the 2001 attack is "despicable'. Partial transcript:

Davis: "...it would have been over in a day, if after the Beck thing, you'd have said boy, I'm sorry, I messed up. I should've identified this 9/11 truther movement as the despicable paranoid cult that they are, what a horrible hateful belief to have in your head that 9/11 was an inside job. Why didnt you do that?

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#191. To: Mister Clean (#190)

bye bye


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-02-22   21:46:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#192. To: Mister Clean (#183)
(Edited)

If you think 9/11 "truth" is on the brink of wide acceptance you are in for a huge disappointment.

in the very long run, say 500 years, 9/11 is not gonna be that important, because the forces driving this situation are geological.

in the meantime, the most productive thing for you to do is: save your skin while either looting or protecting israel.

maybe you can loot and send the loot to israel... whatever.

it's just too damn bad that the whole 9/11 caper, including the "war on terror" is as bad an idea as israel was, which accounts for the really big dogs' emphasis on looting once it became obvious that the oil acquisition project was a failure.

and the really smart guys, from day one of the project, probably saw PNAC as nothing more than an opportunity to start more wars, which would enhance the opportunities to loot as america disintegrated.

and of course, america will disintegrate no matter what, because the problem is geological.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-22   21:46:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#193. To: Mister Clean (#190)

Because it drives you people nuts.

Obviously. Crazy bastards...

"If you think 9/11 "truth" is on the brink of wide acceptance you are in for a huge disappointment." - Mister Clean 02/22/10

Dakmar  posted on  2010-02-22   21:47:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#194. To: Mister Clean, abraxas (#189)

However, the MSM's credibility is plummeting - along with their advertising revenue. Just look at the scandals in the last year - even the illustrious New York Times got caught padding their circulation to charge higher rates. "Tee Bee" Nooze is speaking to an ever dwindling audience.

People will only stand be lied to for so long and then they tune out.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-02-22   21:47:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#195. To: Mister Clean (#189)

But that dang MSM just keeps blocking it from the people. What a shame.

Oh my, 9 years later and America airs it's first show about 911. One show......nine years.

Wonder why more people aren't aware of building 7 imploding when no plane hit it. Gee, it's just everyday that sky scrapers fall for no good reason at all. Right, Mister Clean? Nothing to see hear Looky Lou........

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-22   21:52:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#196. To: Original_Intent (#188)

If you think 9/11 "truth" is on the brink of wide acceptance you are in for a huge disappointment.

Attaboy! Sling that PsyOps.

Cripes, 84% isn't wide acceptance? Where does "wide acceptance" start, 99.999995%?

The only consensus greater than 84% I've ever seen in this country is the poll that says 86% of the country say the government in this country is fucked.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2010-02-22   21:53:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#197. To: Esso (#196)

Admit it, you enjoy being not the sort of people our governors want, don't you?

"If you think 9/11 "truth" is on the brink of wide acceptance you are in for a huge disappointment" - Misrer Clean 02/22/10

Dakmar  posted on  2010-02-22   21:56:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#198. To: Esso (#196)

Where does "wide acceptance" start, 99.999995%?

lol......no, no, Esso. It starts at 99.9999965. : )

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-22   21:56:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#199. To: Mister Clean (#190) (Edited)

the thing you really have to worry about is the damage being done to judaism and jewishness.

israel and israeli americans are the driving forces behind this operation, and it could be that they're being set up as scapegoats for the disintegration of america... disintegration that's inevitable due to geology.

when you got mommies' boys like perle, kristol, ledeen, netanyahu and the rest of these crybabies leading us into this situation, and then read about israel's suicide option, in which they intend to nuke as many people as possible as they go under... well, you got to wonder about these guys' sanity... are they willingly setting themselves up to be scapegoats, or are they being used?

are they bluffing about their samson option, one of the most immoral concepts of war ever to come down the pike? who knows.

in the meantime, though, israel's and israeli americans' behavior is tearing the jewish community to pieces, which, i spose, is in keeping with time-honored standards of jewish behavior, as little jews stay behind and take it in the shorts as the hive queens get away with the loot.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-22   21:56:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#200. To: abraxas (#195)

Oh my, 9 years later and America airs it's first show about 911. One show......nine years.

It's like the only way for 9/11 "truth" to gain legitimacy is for the MSM to grant it.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-22   21:58:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#201. To: Mister Clean (#200)

It's like the only way for 9/11 "truth" to gain legitimacy is for the MSM to grant it.

and seeing as how the main media is controlled by zionists, there's not much chance of that...

...which probably has a lot to do with the main media's decline.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-22   22:01:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#202. To: Mister Clean (#200)

It's like the only way for 9/11 "truth" to gain legitimacy is for the MSM to grant it.

Uh-huh, and I can make you go all silent by just blinking, and you know it. Go ahead, brother, rage about it. Shed a tear.

"If you think 9/11 "truth" is on the brink of wide acceptance you are in for a huge disappointment" - Mister Clean 02/22/10

Dakmar  posted on  2010-02-22   22:04:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#203. To: Mister Clean (#200)

It's like the only way for 9/11 "truth" to gain legitimacy is for the MSM to grant it.

Only in your small mind, Mister Clean. Plenty of other people read books on the matter and have found plenty of legitimacy within that library. Many actually read peer reviewed scientific analysis on the matter. Oh, and some actually read analysis of high level military brass. So much to read. So much to learn.

You might try reading a book or a scholarly paper sometime......of course, ignorance would no longer be a valid excuse for your goobermint boot licking day in and day out.

Actually, it is quite evident that you have a legitimacy problem Mister Clean. If you actually had any facts, you wouldn't have to divert to insults or diversions or irrelevant beat the messenger tactics.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-22   22:09:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#204. To: christine (#156)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-22   22:23:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#205. To: christine (#157)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-22   22:23:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#206. To: abraxas, All (#176)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-22   22:24:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#207. To: Eric Stratton (#206)

Why do you guys contend with Mr. Queen?

he's a useful idiot

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-22   22:26:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#208. To: Eric Stratton (#206)

If everyone put him on bozo he'd be arguing with himself.

I can't bozo.....it goes against my love of free speech for all.

Still, I digress, knowing that I could stop feeding trolls. lol

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-22   22:27:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#209. To: Eric Stratton (#206)

Why do you guys contend with Mr. Queen?

If everyone put him on bozo he'd be arguing with himself.

What can I say, I like watching him twitch.

"If you think 9/11 "truth" is on the brink of wide acceptance you are in for a huge disappointment" - Mister Clean 02/22/10

Dakmar  posted on  2010-02-22   22:32:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#210. To: abraxas (#208)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-22   22:40:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#211. To: Dakmar (#209)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-22   22:40:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#212. To: Eric Stratton (#210)

Free speech for Mr. Queen does not entail a captive audience by you.

lol......I'm not captive, Eric. However, this is a forum to discuss matters and I welcome all discussions, even with folks I disagree with.

In most buildings I'm not there to chat about issues or discuss matters, so I wouldn't feel obligated to listen. If I did go to a building for that purpose, then I would feel obligated to listen. : )

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-22   22:53:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#213. To: Eric Stratton (#211)

Pulsate or gyrate is more like it.

LOL, no, watch his knees! :)

"If you think 9/11 "truth" is on the brink of wide acceptance you are in for a huge disappointment" - Mister Clean 02/22/10

Dakmar  posted on  2010-02-22   22:56:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#214. To: abraxas (#212)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-22   23:04:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#215. To: abraxas (#203)

Only in your small mind, Mister Clean. Plenty of other people read books on the matter and have found plenty of legitimacy within that library. Many actually read peer reviewed scientific analysis on the matter. Oh, and some actually read analysis of high level military brass. So much to read. So much to learn.

If that's the case why do you whine about the lack of 9/11 "truth" coverage in the media?

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-23   7:26:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#216. To: Mister Clean (#215)

If that's the case why do you whine about the lack of 9/11 "truth" coverage in the media?

How many 9/11 facts have been revealed in the media, versus 9/11 lies?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-02-23   7:32:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#217. To: Original_Intent (#179)

"In the end the evil you represent and support will lose - one way or another, and it will not be long now. The dyke is already leaking and you are running out of fingers. Of course all of us here would like to give you a finger."

Whatchu jabberin' on about now, O_I?! LOL...so tell me truthfully, do you believe Dubyuh KNEW about the impending 9/11/01 attacks prior to them taking place, chose to do nothing, and thereby condemned 3,000 innocent Americans to their untimely deaths?

Regards...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-23   7:33:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#218. To: Original_Intent, christine, Mr. Clean (#159)

"[Mr. Clean] is so obviously on someone's payroll that he is a gauge of the fact that the PTB are still afraid of their exposure on the 911 PsyOp."

BWAHAHAHAHA...so now MC's very existence and demeanor as a poster is yer latest, greatest evidence that the 9/11 Truthers ain't NUTZ?!

ROFLMAO...yer killin' me, O_I...you oughtta do stand-up, dude...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-23   7:38:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#219. To: FormerLurker (#216)

How many 9/11 facts have been revealed in the media, versus 9/11 lies?

This is what I hear from the "truther" crowd:

1. The media is controlled by the government/elite/NWO and can't be trusted

2. The media is deliberately hiding 9/11 "truth" from the public

3. If 9/11 "truth" were taken seriously by the media, more people would wake up

Well, if all that is true, then 9/11 "truth" is definitely never going anywhere. If 9/11 "truth" requires MSM exposure to push it over the top it's never gonna happen.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-23   7:39:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#220. To: abraxas (#203)

Plenty of other people read books on the matter

As I have told people before, "They hide information in those and on the internet."  >(;^{)

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-23   8:03:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#221. To: Mudboy Slim (#217)

Mud let me ask you a serious question. Don't you think it is odd that they took the scenic route over Ohio and didn't go directly to the targets. They seemed pretty sure of themselves not being intercepted to fly around for almost 2 hours.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-23   8:05:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#222. To: Mudboy Slim (#218)

You are our stand-up comic, Slim. Nine Eleven was an inside job.


Toruk Makto

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-23   9:44:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#223. To: Mister Clean (#215)

If that's the case why do you whine about the lack of 9/11 "truth" coverage in the media?

lol.....whine? I merely offered a plausable explanation as to why so many people don't even know that building 7 fell, along with a few other salient questions. Questions that you avoid, dance around and divert to meaningless drivel like this whine accusation.

Then you claimed people weren't interested in consipiracy theories. I responded that Jesse Ventura disagrees with a large viewing audience for ONE show covering the 911 truth movement that aired years later.

Are you just playing stupid or do you have some sort of disability in relation to following along a thread and reading comprehension?

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-23   9:50:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#224. To: Mister Clean (#152) (Edited)

"Gee, it's been 9 years. Why isn't the "truth" freely known yet?"

Mister you can Cleanie my wiener, how nice of you to care to want to bait me in a new thread.

Now go back to your overseer and tell him you want a new forum to work. You ain't going to get anywhere here,


Toruk Makto

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-23   10:03:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#225. To: A K A Stone (#221)

"Don't you think it is odd that they took the scenic route over Ohio and didn't go directly to the targets. They seemed pretty sure of themselves not being intercepted to fly around for almost 2 hours."

Do I think it's "odd" that four amateur pilots had some issues with getting their bearings straight as they flew a passenger jet accross a coupla times zones? Yeah, I think that whole scenario is surreal...how come only one plane's passengers chose to fight back against four puny groups of terrorists? Fact is, I don't see how the heck the Islamofascists pulled off such a caper, but there's a big chasm of doubt between saying THAT and claiming that Dubyuh had foreknowledge of the attack and chose to let it run its course. The evidence I've seen that's purported to support said allegation has been less than convincing, imho.

Regards...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-23   13:54:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#226. To: Ferret Mike (#222)

"Nine Eleven was an inside job."

Lack of any evidence whatsoever supporting yer allegation notwithstanding...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-23   13:56:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#227. To: Ferret Mike (#222)

Hmmm...turns out that the Great&MercifulLordMessiah Obama is an incompetent PUTZ and a hardcore Marxist ideologue, not unlike ALL elected RATS.

Time to flush the DeeCee commode of all the RATS/RINOs in Congress...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-23   13:58:35 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#228. To: abraxas (#223)

Are you just playing stupid or do you have some sort of disability in relation to following along a thread and reading comprehension?

I'm trying to understand why more people aren't buying into 9/11 "truth." You blame the media but then you point out that people can read about it and watch Jesse Ventura's show.

It just sounds to me like you don't think 9/11 "truth" will ever be considered legitimate unless the MSM treats its seriously.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-23   20:04:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#229. To: Ferret Mike (#224)

You ain't going to get anywhere here,

And 9/11 "truth" ain't going to get anywhere, period.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-23   20:05:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#230. To: Mister Clean (#228)

people can read

Therein lies a problem......people, like yourself for instance, CAN read but you don't. The reading rate in this nation is pathetic.

Here's some dismal reading statistics from 2007:

•58% of the US adult population never reads another book after high school

•42% of college graduates never read another book

•80% of US families did not buy or read a book last year.

•70% of US adults have not been in a bookstore in the last five years

•57% of new books are not read to completion.

•Most readers do not get past page 18 in a book they have purchased.

Actually, I posted an article from the Washington Times today discussing the need for another investigation into 911. Seems 1000 architects and engineers have some serious questions regarding the goobermint scenario on that day. Imagine that.....the Washington Times posing the question of another investigation.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-23   20:21:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#231. To: abraxas (#230)

Therein lies a problem......people, like yourself for instance, CAN read but you don't. The reading rate in this nation is pathetic.

So 9/11 "truth" hasn't caught on with most Americans because:

a) The MSM keeps the information from them

b) Not enough people read

Okay!

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-23   20:40:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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