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Title: Debra Medina agrees that 9/11 truthers' beliefs are 'despicable' (AUDIO)
Source: EXAMINER
URL Source: http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x- ... s-beliefs-are-despicable-AUDIO
Published: Feb 22, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-02-22 03:00:31 by Artisan
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Debra Medina agrees that 9/11 truthers' beliefs are 'despicable' (AUDIO)
February 21, 11:57 PM
LA County Libertarian Examiner Martin Hill

After being interviewed by Glenn Beck and characterized by the talk show host as a '9/11/ Truther',

Debra Medina issued a statement Feb. 11 on her website regarding the Beck interview. She stated in part, "I have never been involved with the 9/11 truth movement, and there is no doubt in my mind that Muslim terrorists flew planes into those buildings on 9/11. I have not seen any evidence nor have I ever believed that our government was involved or directed those individuals in any way.... The real underlying question here, though, is whether or not people have the right to question our government. I think the fact that people are even asking questions on this level gets to the incredible distrust career politicians have fostered ..."

Questioned by Dallas talk show host Mark Davis last week, Medina had stronger and more derisive views of 9/11 truthers, agreeing with the host that anyone who dare would believe that the U.S. government was involved in the 2001 attack is "despicable'. Partial transcript:

Davis: "...it would have been over in a day, if after the Beck thing, you'd have said boy, I'm sorry, I messed up. I should've identified this 9/11 truther movement as the despicable paranoid cult that they are, what a horrible hateful belief to have in your head that 9/11 was an inside job. Why didnt you do that?

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#243. To: noone222 (#241)

Alrightee, I read yer memo...but before I answer all yer questions--fwiw, I hadn't heard anything about the circumstances you allege regarding the Bay of Pigs, did the US Navy actually have a ship called the "Barbara"?--just answer me this, "HOO the heck's 'SA Graham W. Kitchel' and is he alive to corroborate this memo?" Furthermore, if this memo was "Unclassified" on 10/15/93, did ANYONE ever try and track down this ex-student at the Univ. of Houston (James Parrott)?

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-24   14:12:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#244. To: noone222 (#242)

"The solution would be to devolve power back to the states, counties, and local governments."

Yep, and the only folks hurt in such a scenario are those who are presently profitting by bleeding us dry, forever sucking on the teat of the Federal Leviathan...'bout time those jokers got a REAL JOB that produces something useful for their fellow man...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-24   14:14:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#245. To: noone222 (#241)

"George Herbert Walker Bush, owner of Zapata Oil Company..."

"Do you know that the Bay of Pigs Operation was named operation Zapata?"

If this is true, and by implication, Bush had a hand in the Bay of Pigs operation or was carrying out some sorta vigilante vengeance fer JFK's failure to liberate the Cuban people from the tyrannical Fidel Castro, why would Dubyuh's daddy call attention to himself in such a way? Is he just STOOOPID or arrogant or did he secretly wanna get caught?

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-24   14:20:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#246. To: Mudboy Slim (#243)

"HOO the heck's 'SA Graham W. Kitchel'

Special Agent Graham Kitchel was the on duty agent that took Bush' call on Nov. 22, 1963

That memorandum didn't come out until long after Kennedy was murdered. It came out with the last bunch of declassified Kennedy documents. (circa 1993)

In 1963 they didn't have caller I.D. (as far as I know). Bush was trying to establish an alibi. I think he got a case of the nerves / heebee jeebees. I also know that he met with J.Edgar Hoover the day after Kennedy was killed.

I do not know anything about Parrot.

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-24   15:42:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#247. To: Mudboy Slim (#243)

did the US Navy actually have a ship called the "Barbara"?

The Bay of Pigs Operation was not a US Navy OP ... it was CIA and they had purchased the ships. Allen Dulles (who later sat on the Warren Commission) was fired by Kennedy for the Bay of Pigs event.

At the time Bush had oil drilling rigs off the coast of Cuba as part of the Zapata Oil Company. He got into that "business" with a (CIA) buddy from his college days at Yale that was also a Skull and Bones member.

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-24   15:46:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#248. To: Mudboy Slim (#245)

If this is true, and by implication, Bush had a hand in the Bay of Pigs operation or was carrying out some sorta vigilante vengeance fer JFK's failure to liberate the Cuban people from the tyrannical Fidel Castro, why would Dubyuh's daddy call attention to himself in such a way? Is he just STOOOPID or arrogant or did he secretly wanna get caught?

Old Man Bush was being interviewed by Sarah McClendon on a national TV Program and she asked him what he thought would be his LEGACY ... Bush responded "Sarah, if the American people ever found out what we Bush's have done they'd chase us down the street and lynch us"

That may not be the exact quote.

One last thing. The headquarters building of the CIA at Langley, Va. is named after George H. W. Bush. At the dedication ceremony, George Tenet gave the dedication speech. In that speech he THANKED Bush for "PRESERVING" the CIA.

The only time the CIA faced extinction was when Kennedy said he was going to break it into a thousand pieces and throw it to the wind.

Think about it. Bush was only the CIA Director for one lousy year. Why would they name their headquarters after him ?

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-24   15:54:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#249. To: Artisan, Christine, ALL (#0)

From: Medina for Texas Campaign

Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010

Subject: Re: AJ says he's withdrawing his support of Medina if she doesn't issue an apology on her comment about truthersSource: [None]

Thank you for contacting the Debra Medina for Governor Campaign.

That interview was last week. No where does Debra say "truthers are despicable people". No where does she say asking questions is despicable. Here's the transcript:

**************************************

M: Then there's just one other thing that's left, because not being a truther is great. I'm thinking, of course you're not, of course you're not, but sometimes the wisdom is defined by knowing whom to praise and whom to, quite frankly, condemn. Someone walkin' around with the belief that America would do this to its own people, that President Bush and those around him would slaughter our own citizens in order to justify war, is a despicable thing to believe.

D: Agreed.

**************************************

We are THIS close to beating the establishment. We have to keep up the pressure, dig in, work hard and we can win this election. The status quo would like nothing better than to derail this campaign and keep one of their own in office. We've seen from their years in office that neither Kay nor Rick have any interest in representing the people of Texas ahead of their own personal agendas. What have they done to make your life better? To protect your rights to life, liberty and property? When have they EVER scaled back the size of government to any meaningful degree?

We not only have the chance to change history in Texas, and restore our rights as a free people, but also the course of the US. The world is watching what we do here in Texas. Are we going to let this stop us? I have placed my faith in the ability of Debra Medina to lead us in this fight, and I will stand by her and fight for our rights with her. I will not cave because the opposition is trying to divide and conquer. No one said this was going to be an easy fight. It's up to us to stay the course, keep our eye on the prize, and keep fighting.

Thank you,

Dustan

Medina for Governor

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2010-02-24   15:58:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#250. To: noone222 (#236)

My distaste for Bush started with his grandfather, increased dramatically with his father and continues to this moment. I have believed that George Herbert Walker Bush was involved in killing Kennedy for approximately 20 years, so my loathing of this family is not a recent development. Whether "w" is a retard or a genius makes little difference to my analysis. I think his entire family are psychopaths.

Nor do I see any difference in the puppets placed in the oval office except in their varying abilities in selling their puppet masters bullshit.

I completely agree with that..

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-24   16:02:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#251. To: James Deffenbach (#250)

I completely agree with that..

Glad to have your support, J.D.

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-24   16:06:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#252. To: noone222 (#233) (Edited)

Oh yeah, no black boxes either ... ho hum !

Well, they are making those out of the wrong material. They should just make them out of passport paper; everyone knows that is indestructible. Or so it would seem.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-24   16:11:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#253. To: TwentyTwelve (#249)

The interviewer led Medina to "agree" with him with respect to the despicable statement ... she offered up the absurd comment on her own.

She blew it and she didn't have to.

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-24   16:11:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#254. To: James Deffenbach (#252)

The Bible says my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. I would add that everyone is destroyed when the majority lack knowledge.

Today, the people that have studied the information for years are nullified by those that remain ignorant.

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-24   16:14:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#255. To: Artisan (#0)

"I have never been involved with the 9/11 truth movement, and there is no doubt in my mind that Muslim terrorists flew planes into those buildings on 9/11.

That statement alone is either proof of brain damage, total ignorance of the subject, or an outright lie.

Whatever the reason is she said that, it disqualifies her as a representative.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2010-02-24   16:17:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#256. To: TwentyTwelve (#249)

**************************************

M: Then there's just one other thing that's left, because not being a truther is great. I'm thinking, of course you're not, of course you're not, but sometimes the wisdom is defined by knowing whom to praise and whom to, quite frankly, condemn. Someone walkin' around with the belief that America would do this to its own people, that President Bush and those around him would slaughter our own citizens in order to justify war, is a despicable thing to believe.

D: Agreed.

**************************************

"... that President Bush and those around him would slaughter our own citizens in order to justify war, is a despicable thing to believe."

"Agreed."

"Agreed."

"Agreed."

"Agreed."

"Agreed."

"Agreed."

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-02-24   16:21:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#257. To: noone222 (#254)

Today, the people that have studied the information for years are nullified by those that remain ignorant.

What is sad (to me) is that they CHOOSE to be ignorant. The information to educate them beyond their ignorance is available. Of course it is "hidden" in things like books and articles online, not in porn shows.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-24   16:22:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#258. To: Mudboy Slim (#245)

See the video JFK II by John Hankey

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-25   6:38:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#259. To: Mudboy Slim, Original_Intent (#217)

Whatchu jabberin' on about now, O_I?! LOL...so tell me truthfully, do you believe Dubyuh KNEW about the impending 9/11/01 attacks prior to them taking place, chose to do nothing, and thereby condemned 3,000 innocent Americans to their untimely deaths?

Bush Saw 1st Plane Hit Tower Before Going Into Florida Classroom

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2010-02-25   7:07:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#260. To: Mudboy Slim (#239)

"I have believed that George Herbert Walker Bush was involved in killing Kennedy for approximately 20 years..."

Hmmm...let's not stray too far from the subject of this thread, but that's the first time I've heard that charge.

FBI memo, photo link Bush Sr to JFK Dallas murder scene

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2010-02-25   7:14:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#261. To: Original_Intent (#256)

www.infowars.com/open-letter-to-debra-medina/

Open Letter To Debra Medina

Via E Mail

Feb 24, 2010

Comment: This is the tone of many of the emails we are receiving, people are upset with Medina’s comments. We would like to offer Medina a chance to clarify what she said and apologize for how she characterized 9/11 truthers. We hope such a clarification will be forthcoming this week.

—————————————–

Dear Ms. Medina,

We are writing you today to express our sincere regret regarding the statements you made on the Mark Davis radio show towards the “despicable” 911 Truth Movement. After careful consideration, we have decided to ask for a refund for the time, effort, energy, and money that we ‘despicable radicals’ have wastefully donated to your campaign. You see Debra, we 911 truthers really didn’t care about your feelings toward this movement, as your supposed cause of limited government, your campaign against the transgressions against our civil liberties and your promotion of less taxation, are answers that most of us ‘truthers’ know are necessary in order to restore the Republic. Your recent comments though, prove that you can’t be trusted and after careful consideration, we have decided that we want a refund.

The most pressing issue in all of this is that you have done a complete 180 on your stance towards the issue of 911. There are numerous interviews where you simply said that the questions regarding 911 were “valid” and that you supported the rights of the citizenry to question Government no matter how hard are pressing the question or issue might be. These answers were good enough for us. No one in this so called ‘despicable’ movement ever pressured you to come out one way or the other on this issue because we simply didn’t care. The only thing we wanted to know is that we had a true Constitutionalists that had a chance to win the Governorship of the State of Texas, that’s it, nothing more. And for that, we were willing to support you in every way that we could, but now, in light of recent events, have decided that we would like a refund.

Perhaps you aren’t aware that there are numerous examples of Government carrying out false flag attacks on America. Certainly you know about that the Reichstag Fire was a false flag event , don’t you? You might have heard about another False Flag, the Gulf of Tonkin? If you dig even deeper you might find a document called ” Operation Northwoods ” where the joint chiefs of Staff promoted blowing up an aircraft full of students and blaming it on Cuba in order to go to War. Knowing that our Government and others have a history of pulling such stunts, how then can you claim our cause is despicable when the official story doesn’t add up from the get go? Maybe you missed the fact that at least 6 of the 911 Commissioners have questioned if the Citizens of the United States were told the whole story regarding the events of that fateful day. Perhaps you aren’t aware that 1,000 Architects and Engineers have put their careers on the line signing a petition saying that collapsing buildings don’t behave the way they behaved on 911, unless of course, they were helped down with demolition. The qualities displayed by these Architects and Engineers are the qualities that build character and trust, not the flip flop tactics recently employed by you and your campaign. Did I mention that we would like a refund?

When Glenn Beck sabotaged you on his show, we were your strongest supporters. The blowback Beck received from our efforts and endless campaign against him since that show, proved that we “despicable” truthers are a force to be reckoned with. We are the true activists, we are the real grass roots, and you will find that we were the major funders and supporters of your campaign, not mainline Neo Cons that have co-opted the Tea Party Movement, and now, it seems, have also co-opted you. Since we don’t support co-opted individuals, could you find it in your heart to be so polite and give us a refund?

We activists are in need of funding so that we can support real issues and real candidates. We are confident that you will comply with our request as holding on to funds given from such a despicable bunch would be horribly for you politically. You certainly don’t want to be associated with such a radical group of souls, so your decision should be an easy one. We actually feel sorry for you and your new advisors, you really could have won this race. You can keep our blood sweat and tears, but our money – we want it back!

We will leave you with two quotes -

” In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot. ” – Mark Twain

“If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”–Samuel Adams

Signed,

A Concerned Movement – Former Medina Supporters

Works Cited:

1. Wikipedia Entry – Reichstag Fire – en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire

2. Report Reveals Vietnam War Hoax – rawstory.com/news/afp/Rep...ar_hoaxes_f_01082008.html

3. U.S. Military Wanted To Provoke War With Cuba – abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1

4. MSNBC Reprint – Alleged Hijackers May Have Trained at U.S. Bases – www.prisonplanet.com/alle...may_trained_us_bases.html

5. 911 Commission Members Doubt Official Story www.infowars.com/911-comm...ers-doubt-official-story/

6. 1,000 Architects and Engineers Have Signed Petition… www.examiner.com/x-36199-...tion-to-reinvestigate-911

7. 911 Truther Controversy Makes Hypocrite of Glenn Beck – www.infowars.com/sarah-pa...-hypocrite-of-glenn-beck/

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2010-02-25   10:21:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#262. To: Mudboy Slim (#217)

so tell me truthfully, do you believe Dubyuh KNEW about the impending 9/11/01 attacks prior to them taking place, chose to do nothing, and thereby condemned 3,000 innocent Americans to their untimely deaths?

Yes, but it's much MUCH worse than that. You can't fathom it, can you ?


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-25   10:40:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#263. To: Rotara, Mudboy Slim (#262)

and thereby condemned 3,000 innocent Americans to their untimely deaths?

Not to overlook the youth sacrificed on the altar of Iraq, the ones with the WMDs, remember !

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-25   10:44:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#264. To: noone222 (#263)

Over a million dead Iraqis and not a Christian left in the entire nation.

Mission Accomplished ! ???


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-25   10:45:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#265. To: Rotara (#264)

Mission Accomplished ! ???

Yes indeed, WW III is underway !

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-25   10:54:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#266. To: Rotara, noone222 (#264)

Over a million dead Iraqis and not a Christian left in the entire nation.

Mission Accomplished ! ???

Top Project Censored Story of 2009: U.S. War Machine Kills Over One Million Iraqis

The human toll exceeds the 800,000 to 900,000 believed killed in the Rwandan genocide in 1994, and is approaching the number (1.7 million) who died in Cambodia’s infamous “Killing Fields” during the Khmer Rouge era of the 1970s.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2010-02-25   11:43:06 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#267. To: Rotara, noone222, Bill D Berger (#262)

"You can't fathom it, can you ?"

Not with the evidence I've been presented with to date...

BTW...do any of y'all got the skinny on whether or not Bush, Sr. received a MAJOR "speaking bonus" (I've heard roughly $18-20 Million) from a now-extinct firm called "Global Crossing"? I know fer a fact that Terry McAuliffe recieved said BRIBE and that the reason Dubyuh couldn't allow the Justice Department to go after TerrythePUNK was becuz Dubyuh's daddy had recieved a similar payoff.

A link to a credible source confirming--or debunking--this allegation would be greatly appreciated...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-25   14:04:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#268. To: noone222 (#263)

"Not to overlook the youth sacrificed on the altar of Iraq..."

Generations of Iraqi youth will be the greatest beneficiaries of America's successful efforts to Liberate Iraq from beneath the Tyranny of Soddom's Insane...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-25   14:07:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#269. To: Mudboy Slim (#268)

Generations of Iraqi youth will be the greatest beneficiaries of America's successful efforts to Liberate Iraq from beneath the Tyranny of Soddom's Insane...MUD

Uh huh. Saddam Hussein "was a bad man, a terrible dictator." But why, if he was really so terrible, did his own people not take him out? How many times have you seen video of him riding in an open car or standing on an open balcony and surrounded by people with full auto Ak-47's and other machine guns? Not just his bodyguards but just people on the street? And if you pay attention you would have noticed that no actual American gets close to any politician in this country with as much as a pair of fingernail clippers.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-25   14:12:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#270. To: Mudboy Slim (#267)

Bush Sr.'s ties to Global Crossing / Bush family values

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-25   14:16:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#271. To: Mudboy Slim (#268)

Generations of Iraqi youth will be the greatest beneficiaries of America's successful efforts to Liberate Iraq from beneath the Tyranny of Soddom's Insane...MUD

UGH, another mind made mush through chemical abuse.

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-25   15:52:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#272. To: Bill D Berger, Mudboy Slim (#259)

Whatchu jabberin' on about now, O_I?! LOL...so tell me truthfully, do you believe Dubyuh KNEW about the impending 9/11/01 attacks prior to them taking place, chose to do nothing, and thereby condemned 3,000 innocent Americans to their untimely deaths?

Bush Saw 1st Plane Hit Tower Before Going Into Florida Classroom

"And of course there was the curious matter of the dog that did not bark in the night."

It is the Secret Service's job to whisk the President to safety at the slightest whiff of danger. Yet they did not. Instead, even after being informed of the second plane impact, Jorge continued to sit their reading "My Pet Goat" to the little kiddies for another 20 minutes.

In theory if nobody knew what was going on for all they knew another plane could be making for the President's location - which had been publicized a week in advance. Yet the Secret Service did nothing. It was almost like they, and Jorge, knew that there was no real danger. How could they know that?

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-02-26   0:11:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#273. To: TwentyTwelve (#261)

Amen.

Let the truth be out and be known.

"The truth is cruel, but it can be loved, and sets free those who have loved it." ~ Albert Camus

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-02-26   0:17:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#274. To: Original_Intent (#272)

Thank you, O_I, yer comments are quite illustrative, however...

"In theory if nobody knew what was going on for all they knew another plane could be making for the President's location - which had been publicized a week in advance. Yet the Secret Service did nothing. It was almost like they, and Jorge, knew that there was no real danger. How could they know that?"

After almost nine (9) years of the 911Truthers trying to check under every stone and follow every lead, the best you can come up with is this theory that the Secret Service response--in Florida--to an attack on NooYawk was somehow not what you'd expect from a professional institution like the SS?

Some would point out that THAT ain't exactly a smoking gun, my friend...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-26   7:15:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#275. To: TwentyTwelve (#261)

"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot." – Mark Twain

I love it...excellent quote!! Now, would you FINALLY explain what's gonna happen in 2012?!

Heh heh heh...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-26   7:18:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#276. To: Original_Intent, Bill D Berger, Mudboy Slim (#272)

Instead, even after being informed of the second plane impact, Jorge continued to sit their reading "My Pet Goat" to the little kiddies for another 20 minutes.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-26   9:34:24 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#277. To: Mudboy Slim (#274) (Edited)

After almost nine (9) years of the 911Truthers trying to check under every stone and follow every lead, the best you can come up with is this theory that the Secret Service response--in Florida--to an attack on NooYawk was somehow not what you'd expect from a professional institution like the SS?

Some would point out that THAT ain't exactly a smoking gun, my friend...MUD

ugh...ya know, Mud. Intellectual dishonesty to cover up for a bunch of NAZIs just because they're repubicans invokes the strong desire in me to bitch slap you until you cry like a little gurl. IOW, one good pop.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-26   9:38:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#278. To: Mudboy Slim (#274)

Some would point out that THAT ain't exactly a smoking gun, my friend...MUD

How about 250+ smoking guns?

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2010-02-26   9:47:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#279. To: Rotara (#276) (Edited)

The upside down American Flag is a distress signal. I wonder if holding that book upside down doing that to the flag on the cover was a Freudian slip?

It shows his mind was elsewhere at the very least. The fact he stayed in the classroom after being told of the hit on the World Trade Center definitely makes that photo opportunity seem like the alibi it was.

He also said later he saw the first impact on a TV at the school, even though footage of that strike wasn't televised until the next day.

Most people who know the truth feel justifiably that he did see covertly filmed/videotaped footage of that strike that day. The dip just plain goofed not realizing his error much as any liar can't keep their facts straight.


Toruk Makto

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-26   9:59:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#280. To: Bill D Berger (#278)

250+ Smoking Guns=excellent

christine  posted on  2010-02-26   10:07:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#281. To: Ferret Mike (#279)

These people are so guilty it's maddening to me...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-26   10:14:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#282. To: Mudboy Slim (#274)

Oh, spare me, I have, at varying times, presented reams of the contradictory physical data, times, observations, and actual events.

At this point the only way someone who has been posting as long as you have could believe the official cover legend to be true is through abysmal invincible willful ignorance or duplicity.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-02-26   12:01:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#283. To: Rotara (#277)

"...the strong desire in me to bitch slap you until you cry like a little gurl."

You ain't man enuff to mess with me, my friend...better set yer sights just a little bit lower...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-26   12:24:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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