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Title: Debra Medina agrees that 9/11 truthers' beliefs are 'despicable' (AUDIO)
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Debra Medina agrees that 9/11 truthers' beliefs are 'despicable' (AUDIO) After being interviewed by Glenn Beck and characterized by the talk show host as a '9/11/ Truther', Debra Medina issued a statement Feb. 11 on her website regarding the Beck interview. She stated in part, "I have never been involved with the 9/11 truth movement, and there is no doubt in my mind that Muslim terrorists flew planes into those buildings on 9/11. I have not seen any evidence nor have I ever believed that our government was involved or directed those individuals in any way.... The real underlying question here, though, is whether or not people have the right to question our government. I think the fact that people are even asking questions on this level gets to the incredible distrust career politicians have fostered ..." Questioned by Dallas talk show host Mark Davis last week, Medina had stronger and more derisive views of 9/11 truthers, agreeing with the host that anyone who dare would believe that the U.S. government was involved in the 2001 attack is "despicable'. Partial transcript: Davis: "...it would have been over in a day, if after the Beck thing, you'd have said boy, I'm sorry, I messed up. I should've identified this 9/11 truther movement as the despicable paranoid cult that they are, what a horrible hateful belief to have in your head that 9/11 was an inside job. Why didnt you do that? [ARTICLE CONTINUES HERE
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LA County Libertarian Examiner Martin Hill
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#15. To: Rotara (#13)
I am looking for an email addy to ask for my money back. First time I have ever done that.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
Heart.
Right, it's time to disband the federal government. That's the ONLY solution I'll get behind. I've had it with politics. The crooks deliberately creating the problems have no intention of changing their course, and anyone who can't see that by now, is functionally retarded.
Your heart good enough to aim and squeeze a few more times ?
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
Medina: "Agreed!" I hope all the 2010er believers wake up pretty soon themselves...
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
No Sir. Day to day.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
I don't get you folks. She clearly dissed you and you still support her. You say he did a hatchet job on her. What the fuck are you talking about. He gave her the opportunity before a large audience to talk about 911 truth. And you guys call it a hatchet job. Then she calls you idiots and you still want to vote for her. I can maybe understand wanting to vote for her. But why dis Beck for bringing up a relevant question?
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Oddly enough, it once was, now I just dont know. At this station in life, nothing looks the same as in the past, and that is just what one does...review the past, in doing so there is much more clarity, more understanding. Actually it gives one a vantage point beyond others. All that was trivial and meaningless is swept away, the truth stands out.
I got an early vibe on this one. Red flag when you don't have 911 figured out in 2010 OR don't have the courage of standing up to the mother fuckers...which category medina falls into I don't know but it's one of the two.
When Beck did his thing, I made the statement that the only recourse Medina had was to attack Beck. Issuing clarifying "statements" is a sure sign of a loser. Still looking for my money back.
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Can you quote my exactly what Beck said that was so upsetting to you? By the way. Bless your heart.
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"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
Day to day. don't give up Cyni. Curing With Cayenne - Amazing healing power of cayenne pepper and bump to what Eric Stratton said.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
She should have followed her instincts, and stayed with them.
I want my money back. Lets see if she remits.
Hey, Lod, is this the person you forwarded one of my posts to? THANKS A LOT!!! [lol....just kidding....i have a feeling i was on their list before that.]
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
Ron Paul just committed political suicide on CNBC a little bit ago, going on about how we shouldn't be in the Middle East fighting Izzy's wars, and how we should leave Iran alone, etc. He won't be pulling the ye olde switcheroo on us this next election.
I resemble that remark...
Ron Paul actually put this out there ? He's not going to be the media darling no mas...
I wonder if all future politicians can be asked their thoughts on Pearl Harbor?
...and the Lusitania ?
Remember the Maine! To hell with Spain!
I'm sure they all got the same brainwashing in government skools that we all did, more or less, from a curriculum content standpoint. The serious people do their own homework and search for TRUTH so as to know how we all got to this point so that after we win the war, we can effectively lead. IMO
I don't think he actually called them "Israel's wars" but the message was clear. The commutators cut him off by talking over him right on cue. The jew-toobs will be flooding out post haste.
Agreed. But we need a transitional system to get us from point A to point B. That is where our own economy can come in. 9/11 being sustained is the lynchpin in the NWO's hold on liberty. And it helps not at all that people will continue to latch onto a candidate hoping that finally there is someone to represent them. How many fucking times do people need to get raked over the coals before they fucking GET IT! Get it thru your thick skulls that they will never represent you. They dont give a rats ass about you. In fact, they hate you and wish you were fucking dead. Do you get it now? Those that thought this sniveling cunt was going to represent them, do you get it now?!?! You are on your own. Until the next candidate comes along, that is... This is where we are losing the propaganda battle. We preach to the choir, and think everyone in the pews gets it. They don't get it.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Alex Jones is the Robert Tilton of the conspiracy world. ~Mister Clean Live free or Disheartening information - it's amazing how long the official 9/11 fable has existed, and how .gov and their tools have turned it into a political tar-baby to discredit their opposition. When I met Debra, the furthest thing from my mind was asking her what she thought of our New Pearl Harbor type event, and who executed it. My bad.
9/11 Truth is not an issue the state government of Texas can deal with at all. Now if it were the 1960s and we were dealing with the massive conspiracy/coverup that was the JFK assassination, I can see relevance in asking a potential governor about what he or she planned to do about that. Having said that, I am puzzled, first of all, as to why Beck is interested in taking sides in a Texas GOP gubernatorial primary, as he obviously HAS very openly sided with Rick Perry (Beck wants to "French kiss" him), and also why this would be of interest to his audience outside of Texas. IOW, why did he regionalize his show that day and on following days when he continued to talk about the issue as he tried to equate continuing to question 9/11 with "Holocaust denial" or something? Of course, the biggest blunder of all was the decision by Debra Medina to talk with Beck at all. Perhaps she was not wanting to give him a chance to demonize her in another way by saying "Debra Medina refused to go on my show." But that would have been preferable to what happened by accepting his invitation. Why does Beck even have guests? Limbaugh doesn't.
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
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Good point. Though I see public schools failing to teach people how to learn and think for themselves. Which is something people should aggressively do throughout their lives. Public schools are more into socialization that teaches compliance and a flock of sheep mentality. I was lucky to go to a private school, took Latin, had to write long papers complete with footnotes and got points deducted for any lack of attention to detail or made it obvious my thought process was involved in the crafting of it. They punish independent thinkers and people who show spunk and audacity in public schools. Most of which would do the country more good if they were closed then by being allowed to remain open to continue their dirty work.
Neither am I. But I am surprised how eager some are; people that should have known better, get all excited and fired up when a candidate throws them a rotten bone. They know all politicians are scum, yet they will allow themselves to be fooled over and over again. All that politician has to do is say the right words. Never mind that politicians actions. Just words are enough to satisfy them. You can see it right here on this board. They talk about candidates as if they matter.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Alex Jones is the Robert Tilton of the conspiracy world. ~Mister Clean Live free or Here is the way I see it. Beck thinks 911 "truthers" are nuts. That is his right. He caught wind that Medina is a 911 truther. So he thinks she is unfit. So he asks her about it. (freedom of the press and speech) She likely has some 911 truth sympathies. But she is a wisy washy politician (most are). So she calculates and decides not to mention that she is a closet truther. All Beck did was ask a question. You may think it is not relevant to the governors race and others may agree. But the question is out there and she could have answered it anyway she wanted. She could have hit a home run out of the park and said she thinks it was an inside job. But she thought that would minimize her chances. So she chose her path. No sense getting mad at Beck, all he did was ask a question. A question people were interested in. I suspect christine and lodwick wouldn't have supported her if she thought 911 truthers were despicable like she said. She sounds like a typical finger in the wind politician. So here we have it. Her and Beck think the same about 911. But you folks hate Beck and love Medina for that view. It isn't logical.
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Beck's question to Medina is as relevant to Texas politics as is what brand of wacky religion she does or doesn't belong to. Medina's mistake was to not have refered Beck to one hooked nosed Jew, Larry Silverstein, and his "pull it" comment (not to mention the many billions of dollars his $25 million personal investment made him in a mere 6-weeks)
History of The leaders of smaller and less industrialised nations are not madmen (whatever the media claims). They also are generally better informed than their citizens. In a war an attacker does not need equal forces compared to the enemy. The attacker needs a 5-fold local superiority, or better. No one begins wars without very definite objectives and a quick victory in sight. If a war with more even military balance erupts, someone has been mislead and walked into a trap (usually arranged by third party). After the American war of Independence (1776-1779), and an English challenge to that independence (1812-1814) no single nation has planned an offensive war against the USA. It is probable that a strong coalition of Anglo-French-led European nations planned to split the USA into two states through diplomatic recognition of the Confederate states possibly followed up by naval blockade embargoing the Union. At that time the British Empire was the strongest naval power, and the French the second strongest. The events led, however, into the Civil War (1860-1865) and due to the Russian intervention 1863 (1863) on the Union's side, those European plans were quietly abandoned. Mexican wars 1819, 1846-48: Long series of operations, commencing with the annexion of Florida (1819) and followed by a declaration of independence of Texas from Mexico (1836). Provocative troop movements near the U.S. southern border caused an incident which led to war. (It is said the US built a fortification 150 km inside the Mexican border.) The annexation of Texas by the USA and the conquest of California, New Mexico, and nearby territories followed. Mexico had a weak government at that time, because after Napoleon conquered Spain (1809) their former colonies soon revolted. Mexico had been a colony of the Spanish kingdom but now they revolted and formed a republic. There were a series of revolts, not just one. Spanish-American war, 1898: The surprise explosion of the battleship Maine at Havana, Cuba. 255 of the crew died. The Hearst press accused the Spanish, claiming that the explosion was caused by a remote-controlled mine. The USA declared war on Spain, and conquered Philippines, Guam and Cuba. Subsequent investigations revealed that the explosion originated inside the Maine and that it was either an accident, such as a coal explosion, or some type of time bomb inside the battleship. Divers investigating the shipwreck found that the armour plates of the ship were blown bending outwards, not inwards. World War I, 1914-1918: A U-boat torpedo hit ocean liner Lusitania near Britain and some 1200 people, including 128 Americans, on board lost their lives. Subsequent investigations revealed that the major explosions were inside the Lusitania, as it was secretly transporting 6 million pounds of artillery shells and rifle ammunition, as well as other explosives on behalf of Morgan banking corporation to help their clients, the Britain and the France. It was against US laws to transport war materials and passengers in the same ship. World War 2, 1939-1945: A U-boat torpedo hit the ocean liner Athenia near Britain with some 1100 passengers, of which 311 were Americans. The sea was calm and only 118 people on board lost their lives. The ship was sunk because it behaved like a military transport, blackened out and zigzagging. This incident wasn't enough to precipitate war, and the Germans also refused to be provoked by several American acts of war. Americans confiscated German merchant ships, and Americans started to support the British with various lend-lease items, US volunteer pilots joined the RAF and some RAF pilots were trained in the US, US gave the British 50 old but usable WW1 destroyers and 20 modern torpedo boats, tanks, light bombers, fighter aircraft like P-40s and so on. American destroyers also escorted the convoys bound to Britain, and attacked German U-boats even far away from those convoys. The US did not maintain a neutral stance attitude towards the warring nations. The US naval intelligence, chief of Japan desk planned and suggested "8 insults", which should bring Japan into war with the US. President Roosevelt executed this plan immediately and also added some other insults, enraging the Japan. The most serious one was a total blockade of Japanese oil imports, as agreed between the Americans, British and the Dutch. FDR also declared an all-out embargo against the Japan and forbade them the use of Panama canal, impeding Japan's access to Venezuelan oil. The Flying Tigers volunteer air group successfully fighting the Japanese in China with some 90 fairly modern P-40Bs was another effective provocation that is not generally acknowledged by historical accounts of World War 2, most of which fail to mention any air combat action prior to 7th December 1941. But at that time the Japanese had already had lost about 100 military aircraft, mostly bombers, to the Tigers. After Pearl Harbor these squadrons were some of the the hardest-hitting ones in the US service. The attack on Pearl Harbour followed some 6 months later. Having broken the Japanese encryption codes, the Americans knew what was going to happen, when and where, but the president did not dispatch this information to Pearl Harbor. Americans even gave their friends the British 3 Magic decrypting machines which automatically opened encrypted Japanese military traffic. But this same information was not available to the commanders of Hawaii. The movement of the fleet was also visible in the very effective radio direction finding network. Japan had an alliance with Germany, and the Germans upheld their promises by declaring the war against the USA right after the Japanese declaration. Two scapegoats, the navy commander Admiral Husband Kimmel, and the army commander Lt. General Walter Short were found incompetent and demoted as they were allowed to retire. Short died 1949 and Kimmel 1958. In 1995, the US Congress re-examined this decision and endorsed it. Then in 2000 some archive information came to light and the US Senate passed a resolution stating that both hadserved in Hawaii "competently and professionally". In 1941 they were denied vital information, and even on presidential orders purposefully mislead into believing that the Japanese feet could be expected from the southwest. These commanders have yet to be rehabilited by the Pentagon. Korean War, 1950-1953: South Korean incursions (the Tiger regiment etc.) into North Korea (1949) led to contrary claims and into war. The cause of this war propably was covert action involving leaders of Taiwan, South Korea and the US military-industrial complex (John Foster Dulles has been mentioned as an organizer of the hostilities.) After the unpublished hostilities in 1949, the communist powers were strongly backing North Korea. Chiang Kai Sek was being abandoned, isolated and falling prey to the powerful communist Chinese operations. The right-wing South Korean ruler was expected to loose the soon-to-be-elections. The American military-industrial complex went into high gear again, and huge government orders for equipment were flowing in. The American-led UN forces had difficult times early in the war, but after sufficient forces arrived they advanced victoriously and penetrated deep into the North Korea. The strong Chino-Russian intervention into the war once again turned the tides, the Chinese with vast armies on ground, and the Soviets less visibly with large numbers of aircraft, nearly costing the UN forces the war. Finally the front stabilised along the original 38th parallel armistice line. The war resulted in the death of 3 million Korean Chinese and the destruction of virtually all of the Korean cities, and left Taiwan in strong American protection and South Korea firmly in the hands of the right-wing president Syngman Rhee. Some 55,000 Americans lost their lives. Vietnam War: "The Tonkin incident", where American destroyer Maddox was supposedly attacked twice by three North Vietnamese torpedo boats in 1964 in the Gulf of Tonkin never happened. What was happening at the time were aggressive South Vietnamese raids against the North in the same general area. Huge American presence wasn't decisive and President Nixon negotiated a "peace with honour" 1973. This war was lost, when the North Vietnam finally conquered South Vietnam 1975. Grenada invasion: The Grenadian leader favouring the left and having invited Cubans to help building the infrastructure, extending the airport to accomodate long range Soviet aircraft, was replaced at a moment when he was negotiating in the UN, New York for a more open UN UFO policy based on Grenada initiatives. The proffered reason for the immediate invasion was that American medical students studying in the Grenada were in danger due the Cuban presence. The new leader supported by the US favoured more traditional values and the right. War on Drugs: The war was launched by Richard M Nixon sometime around June 17,1971. The drug problem was found bad within the army in Viet Nam around 1968 prompting action was required towards the end of the war. Nowadays it is estimated that the military will never win the War on Drugs. The street prices of illicit drugs did not change significantly in the USA despite the military action in foreign drug-producing countries. The Colombian experience, with local military supported by the US, has shown that peace is more important than war against drugs. The Colombians have successfully negotiated some 1000s of guerrilla fighters back into the society and out of jungle. This "war" actually seems to be a pretext for military invasions into less developed countries, where covert "bad" drug lords on behalf of western intelligence services are producing drugs into US and first world markets. This operation produces huge incomes, generating black budget money for those intelligence services managing the global drug operations. Panama invasion: The incident between American and Panamanian troops led to invasion. The leader Noriega was changed and the earlier Carter administration plan to hand the control of the canal over to Panama was cancelled. The strategic importance of the canal has surpassed any more just thinking in the US global domination policy. US-Israeli sponsored war between Iraq and Iran, 1980-1988: The US has built power bases in the Middle East in Iran starting with the CIA-organised coup 1953, where Iranian prime minister Mossadeq was replaced with the Shah of Iran Reza Pahlavi and he by his son Mohammad Reza Pahlavi. Iran was equipped with the best western military equipment, including the American F-14 fighters with Phoenix missiles and the British Chieftain MBTs. Unfortunately there was in 1979 a coup of ayatollah Khomeini replacing the Shah and founding an Islamite nation. After this, the US warmed up relations with their good Iraqi friend Saddam Hussein, and started to build a nation capable of challenging the Iran. Iraq acquired large numbers of effective weapons including factories able to produce older versions of gas warfare agents. These would later be called WMDs, which of course they were not, being the WW1-vintage weapons. The war broke out and was fought to exhaustion because third-party powers, especially Israel, were carefully monitoring the power balance supplying more weapons to the side which seemed to be loosing. "Too bad they both cannot loose" is how Kissinger evaluated this situation. Desert Storm (First Gulf war), 1991): Hussein asked for permission from the US (via their ambassador April Gillespie) and got an answer that the US does not care Arab quarrels. That was a trap, and after Saddam occupied Kuwait, George Bush Sr. mobilised a coalition of some 40 nations to "liberate Kuwait" and to smash the recently-built Iraqi military power base. This also involved a media hoax, where the daughter of Kuwaiti US ambassador played nurse on TV and testified to "witnessing" Iraqi soldiers throwing babies out of incubators in Kuwait. War on Terror: The war was launched by Bush administration October 2001. The war was claimed to be the response on terrorism, especially the 9-11 incidents. Most of the people in the world today know that these reasons are false and that those events were based on MIH type (make it happen) inside job. Enduring Freedom (Afghanistan invasion), 7.10.2001-: Without any evidence, the former CIA-asset, a Saudi-Arabian Osama bin Laden was claimed to be the mastermind behind the 9/11 strikes at the WTC and the Pentagon. Such a complex operation, if actually executed which it was not, in this case would be much beyond the capabilities of anything in Afghanistan. Only some top ten intelligence services in the world could hope to be successful in such an operation involving forgery, infiltration, living "underground" in a foreign non-Muslim country, coordination of moves, illegal arms, hi-quality flight training, accurate aircraft navigation in no-visibility conditions and so on. Perhaps even less, because the friends of the US (at that time, still most of the world) would also have been interested in stopping the attack. Enduring Justice (Second Gulf war), 20.3.2003-: later known with less irony as Operation Iraqi Freedom The claimed reason of the attack was that Iraq was a clear and present danger to the US with wmd's available within less than an hour after the decision to assemble them has been made. Since no wmd's were found, and after the Iraqi also scrapped some 800 long range Scud style missiles before the US coalition attack, the reason for the invasion was changed into "bringing the democracy into Iraq". Robert B. Stinnett: Day of Deceit: the Truth about FDR and Pearl Harbor, 2000 http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/6315/hullno26.html Fredrick W. Winterbotham: The Ultra secret, 1974 http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/wars/ http://tacklingthetoughtopics.net/default.htm The Best Enemy Money Can Buy by Antony C. Sutton From Major Jordan's Diaries (Google this item)
It is not up to you to decide what is relevant. Your just pissed because Medina turned out to be like the rest of them. She shares Becks view of 911. She is also against abortion like Beck. Beck is right on most conservative issues. Except it bugs you guys and me that he is for the war and disses 911 truthers. Well guess what. You give a pass for Medina for having the same views. Or do you think she is lying about her views on 911?
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestOh boy, time to send in ANOTHER 100 bux everyone ??? /s
#16. To: Cynicom (#12)
#17. To: Eric Stratton (#16)
#18. To: Eric Stratton, Cynicom (#10)
I'm tellin' ya, the only thing that's gonna save current generations of Americans is a redeal of our nation's government, "abolishing it" as the Declaration of Independence states.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#19. To: Cynicom (#17)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#20. To: PSUSA (#14)
#21. To: Cynicom (#15)
Later the host continues "someone walking around with the belief that America would do this to its' own people .. that president Bush and those around him would slaughter our own citizens in order to justify war , is a despicable thing to believe.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#22. To: Cynicom (#17)
#23. To: Rotara (#19)
Your heart good enough to aim and squeeze a few more times ? Your heart good enough to aim and squeeze a few more times ?
#24. To: Esso (#18)
#25. To: noone222, lod, christine (#4)
#26. To: Eric Stratton (#22)
Your faith is in Christ, correct?
#27. To: Esso (#18)
funtionally retarded
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#28. To: Rotara (#27)
#29. To: Cynicom (#26)
#30. To: Cynicom (#28)
When Beck did his thing, I made the statement that the only recourse Medina had was to attack Beck.
#31. To: Cynicom (#17)
#32. To: Cynicom, Eric Stratton (#23)
No Sir.
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#33. To: Artisan (#0)
#34. To: Jethro Tull (#33)
#35. To: Artisan, Lod (#0)
Debra Medina agrees that 9/11 truthers' beliefs are 'despicable' (AUDIO)
#36. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Cynicom (#32)
#37. To: Cynicom (#34)
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#38. To: Cynicom (#28)
Issuing clarifying "statements" is a sure sign of a loser.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#39. To: Esso (#37)
going on about how we shouldn't be in the Middle East fighting Izzy's wars
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#40. To: Cynicom (#34)
#41. To: Jethro Tull (#40)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#42. To: Rotara (#41)
#43. To: Jethro Tull (#40)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#44. To: Rotara (#39)
Ron Paul actually put this out there ?
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#45. To: Eric Stratton, all (#20)
Back to my primary point, the only solution is a complete redeal/abolishment of the current system.
die kill ~~ Me
#46. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Cynicom, Artisan, all (#35)
#47. To: A K A Stone (#25)
But why dis Beck for bringing up a relevant question?
#48. To: PSUSA (#45)
#49. To: Rotara (#43)
"I'm sure they all got the same brainwashing in government skools that we all did, more or less, from a curriculum content standpoint."
Toruk Makto
#50. To: Eric Stratton (#48)
'm under no delusion that everyone in the pews gets it.
die kill ~~ Me
#51. To: Sam Houston (#47)
#52. To: A K A Stone (#51)
#53. To: Jethro Tull (#42)
http://911review.com/articles/anon/false_flag_perations.html
American False Flag Operations References
Why the Pearl Harbor took place
Mark Emerson Wiley: Pearl Harbour - mother of all conspiracies
http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/6315/pearl.html Cordell Hull's Ultimatum to Japan
What the US usually knew in advance (books)
Bradley F. Smith: The Ultra-Magic Deals, 1992
F.H.Hinsley: British Intelligence in the WW2 (4 large volumes), 1988 How to create innocent-looking wars
How wars are made
Especially these items: World War 1, World War 2, Korean War, The Vietnam War How to create distant future wars
Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution by Antony C. Sutton
Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler by Antony C. Sutton
The out-of-print book:
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#54. To: Jethro Tull (#52)
#55. To: Rotara (#53)
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