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Title: Debra Medina agrees that 9/11 truthers' beliefs are 'despicable' (AUDIO)
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Debra Medina agrees that 9/11 truthers' beliefs are 'despicable' (AUDIO) After being interviewed by Glenn Beck and characterized by the talk show host as a '9/11/ Truther', Debra Medina issued a statement Feb. 11 on her website regarding the Beck interview. She stated in part, "I have never been involved with the 9/11 truth movement, and there is no doubt in my mind that Muslim terrorists flew planes into those buildings on 9/11. I have not seen any evidence nor have I ever believed that our government was involved or directed those individuals in any way.... The real underlying question here, though, is whether or not people have the right to question our government. I think the fact that people are even asking questions on this level gets to the incredible distrust career politicians have fostered ..." Questioned by Dallas talk show host Mark Davis last week, Medina had stronger and more derisive views of 9/11 truthers, agreeing with the host that anyone who dare would believe that the U.S. government was involved in the 2001 attack is "despicable'. Partial transcript: Davis: "...it would have been over in a day, if after the Beck thing, you'd have said boy, I'm sorry, I messed up. I should've identified this 9/11 truther movement as the despicable paranoid cult that they are, what a horrible hateful belief to have in your head that 9/11 was an inside job. Why didnt you do that? [ARTICLE CONTINUES HERE
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The only reason Beck mentioned this was to discredit Medina and lure votes into RINO Rick Perry's camp. Sheesh, Beck lost all credibility backing that POS who wanted a Gardisil mandate for all young girls in Texas........of course, Beck doesn't mention this criminal and crap on the constitution stance. Oh no, why would that be relevant to THIS election?
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Other information below: What Really Caused World War 1? History books record that World War I started when the nations went to war to avenge the assassination of the Archduke Francis Ferdinand, the heir to the Habsburg throne, on June 28, 1914. This is the typical explanation. But the "revisionist historian" knows just what caused and what the purpose was of the conflagration of World War I. Up until America's entry into this war, the American people had followed the wise advice of President George Washington given in his farewell address, delivered to the nation on September 17, 1796. President Washington said: "It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliance with any portion of the foreign world.... Why, by interweaving our destiny with that of any part of Europe, entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of European ambition, rivalship, interest, humour or caprice?' President Washington attempted to warn the American people about getting embroiled in the affairs of Europe. But in 1914, it was not to be. There were those who were secretly planning America's involvement in World War I whether the American people wanted it or not. The pressure to involve the American government started in 1909, long before the actual assassination of the Archduke. Norman Dodd, former director of the Committee to Investigate Tax Exempt Foundations of the U.S. House of Representatives, testified that the Committee was invited to study the minutes of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace as part of the Committee's investigation. The Committee stated: "The trustees of the Foundation brought up a single question. If it is desirable to alter the life of an entire people, is there any means more efficient than war.... They discussed this question... for a year and came up with an answer: There are no known means more efficient than war, assuming the objective is altering the life of an entire people. That leads them to a question: How do we involve the United States in a war. This is in 1909." So the decision was made to involve the United States in a war so that the "life of the entire people could be altered." This was the conclusion of a foundation supposedly committed to "peace." The method by which the United States was drawn into the war started on October 25, 1911, when Winston Churchill was appointed the First Lord of the Admiralty in England. Winston Churchill is an interesting individual, as he later came to the conclusion that there was indeed a master conspiracy at work in the major events of the world, when he wrote the following in 1920: "From the days of Spartacus—Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, to those of Trotsky (Russia)... this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization... has been steadily growing." The second key appointment made during the pre-war period was the appointment of Franklin Delano Roosevelt as Assistant Secretary of the Navy by President Woodrow Wilson. Roosevelt is also on record as concluding that there was a conspiracy, at least in the United States. He once wrote to Colonel Edward Mandell House: "The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson, and I am not wholly excepting the administration of W.W. (Woodrow Wilson.) The country is going through a repetition of Jackson's fight with the Bank of the United States—only on a far bigger and broader basis." The next step in the maneuvering of the United States into the war came when the Cunard Lines, owner of the ocean liner, the Lusitania, turned the ship over to the First Lord of the Admiralty, Winston Churchill. It now became a ship of the English Navy and was under the control of the English government. The ship was sent to New York City where it was loaded with six million rounds of ammunition, owned by J.P. Morgan & Co., to be sold to England and France to aid in their war against Germany. It was known that the very wealthy were interested in involving the American government in that war, and Secretary of State William Jennings Bryan was one who made note of this. "As Secretary [Bryan] had anticipated, the large banking interests were deeply interested in the World War because of wide opportunities for large profits. On August 3, 1914, even before the actual clash of arms, the French firm of Rothschild Freres cabled to Morgan and Company in New York suggesting the flotation of a loan of $100,000,000, a substantial part of which was to be left in the United States, to pay for French purchases of American goods." England broke the German war code on December 14, 1914, so that "By the end of January, 1915, [British Intelligence was] able to advise the Admiralty of the departure of each U-boat as it left for patrol...." This meant that the First Lord of the Admiralty, Winston Churchill, knew where every U-boat was in the vicinity of the English Channel that separated England and France. The ocean liner was set to sail to England already at war with Germany. The German government had placed advertisements in the New York newspapers warning the American people considering whether or not to sail with the ship to England that they would be sailing into a war zone, and that the liner could be sunk. Secretary Bryan promised that "he would endeavor to persuade the President (Woodrow Wilson) publicly to warn the Americans not to travel [aboard the Lusitania]. No such warning was issued by the President, but there can be no doubt that President Wilson was told of the character of the cargo destined for the Lusitania. He did nothing... ." Even though Wilson proclaimed America's neutrality in the European War, in accordance with the prior admonitions of George Washington, his government was secretly plotting to involve the American people by having the Lusitania sunk. This was made public in the book The Intimate Papers of Colonel House, written by a supporter of the Colonel, who recorded a conversation between Colonel House and Sir Edward Grey of England, the Foreign Secretary of England: Grey: What will America do if the Germans sink an ocean liner with American passengers on board? House: I believe that a flame of indignation would sweep the United States and that by itself would be sufficient to carry us into the war. On May 7, 1915, the Lusitania was sunk off the coast of County Cork, Ireland by a U-boat after it had slowed to await the arrival of the English escort vessel, the Juno, which was intended to escort it into the English port. The First Lord of the Admiralty, Winston Churchill, issued orders that the Juno was to return to port, and the Lusitania sat alone in the channel. Because Churchill knew of the presence of three U-boats in the vicinity, it is reasonable to presume that he had planned for the Lusitania to be sunk, and it was. 1201 people lost their lives in the sinking. This sinking has been described by Colin Simpson, the author of a book entitled The Lusitania, as "the foulest act of wilful murder ever committed on the seas." But the event was not enough to enable President Wilson to declare war against the German government, and the conspirators changed tactics. They would use other means to get the American people involved in the war, as the "flame of indignation" did not sweep the United States as had been planned. Robert Lansing, the Assistant Secretary of State, is on record as stating: "We must educate the public gradually — draw it along to the point where it will be willing to go into the war." After the sinking of the Lusitania, two inquiries were held, one by the English government, in June, 1915, and one by the American government in 1918. Mr. Simpson has written that "Both sets of archives... contain meager information. There are substantial differences of fact in the two sets of papers and in many cases it is difficult to accept that the files relate to the same vessel." But in both inquiries, the conclusions were the same: torpedoes and not exploding ammunition sank the Lusitania, because there was no ammunition aboard. The cover-up was now official. But there have been critics of these inquiries. One was, of course, the book written by Colin Simpson, who did the research necessary to write his book in the original minutes of the two inquiries. The Los Angeles Times reviewed Mr. Simpson's book and concluded: "The Lusitania proves beyond a reasonable doubt that the British government connived at the sinking of the passenger ship in order to lure America into World War I. The Germans, whose torpedo struck the liner, were the unwitting accomplices or victims of a plot probably concocted by Winston Churchill." President Wilson was seeking re-election in 1916. He campaigned on his record of "keeping us out of the War" during his first term of office from 1912 to 1916. Next: The Real Reason for World War 1 continued... 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or you're lying. I don't support our attack on Afghanistan. Ron Paul did. I don't support our attack on Iraq. Now on the other hand. From the sidelines. I can see why Israel feels threatened by Iran. So I can understand why they might do something about it. Justifiably so. But I am not a globalist. At this point I don't think it is necessarily our fight. However a nuclear Iran is a threat to our country. Any muslim nation that has nukes is a threat to us. We should however watch Iran like a hawk. Something may need to be done at some point.
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Thank you for your participation in the OWM's selection charade. We couldn't do it without YOU ! Sincerely, The Bilderberg Society Membership
Amen to that. It is a litmus test issue for EVERY politickian everywhere and all the time.
not according to our intelligence services. not according to common sense. not according to the iranians. the only people who are pushing this "iran is a threat to america" business are the izzies and izzie-firsters like you.
But you voted for-supported You always swore up and down and bragged you hadn't voted since like Buchanan or something. Now you say you would have voted for her. Then you talked about giving her money. Sounds like you feel suckered. I mean coming out and considering voting for a candidate for the first time in more then a decade. then give her money. Then Beck brought you back to reality.
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If I am such an Obamabot, why oh why then would I not only prefer to see Ron Paul as POTUS, I would work for him and vote for him if he ran against him in 2012 and got the GOP nod; or even made a third party run? I may be left to you politically, Stone; but I am anything but a fool or a useful and unwitting tool. I may not always be right in my take on things politically, but I always keep an open mind and have a deep passion for justice and the search for real truth and leaders who serve the people. Instead of one that expect people to serve them.
That's because Ron Paul doesn't understand what really happened on 911 or he doesn't have the stones to really go after the TRUTH...
...and pakistan ?
IN the charitable spirit which is upon me today, I'm going to pretend I didn't see this cycle start over again...
Correct. The election of the Marxist has forced me to
change strategy. Now, stop yelling at me and lets agree on what we agree
on and push the rest to the side. Time is short.
Sure did. McCain/Palin vs Obama/Biden....I saw it to be a wash on the war issue. issue. They would both continue the war. Only difference on social and domestic issues. I saw Palin and McCain as far superior on that front. My instincts turned out to be right on the war issue. My instincts usually are right. Also turned out to be right on Obamas domestic agenda. Now you on the other hand. You looked in the mirror and said this is what I want the President to think like. They have to agree with me on everything. And they have to hate Jews. So you sat home on your ass. If you wouldn't have and voted for Palin. The war would still be going on. But we wouldn't have this new massive debt and acceleration on the social issues.
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want to explain why only izzies, izzie-firsters like you, and their golems like hillary want war with iran?
Admittedly I may be too much a pragmatist for my own good, but your point is duly noted and I do appreciate where you are coming from here.
Now, stop yelling at me and lets agree on what we agree on and pust the rest to the side. Time is short. Ok. Fair enough. If you changed strategy then why can't you admit that Beck is in favor of a lot of the stuff that we have been asking for and wanting? He falls short on the war issue, but neither party is stopping it. He seems passionate and true about his beliefs that he does champion. I can see it in his face and hear it in his voice. And the things that he agrees with me on are many. The dems agree with me on zero.
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If beck won't call out the 911 conspirators, then he has no value whatsoever and in fact is working for our enemies. Many of which you can't see because you are blind and your pastor ain't helping you I bet...
want to answer Rotara's question about pakistan and its nukes? and maybe you could answer the following: if the mommies' boys in israel are entitled to throw a temper tantrum and kill as many people as possible with their samson option as they go under, is pakistan entitled to do the same thing?
Sir Lod... In my long political life, I have been snookered, slickered, conned, flim flammed and lied to. It goes with the territory. You might recall, I have stated here many times that in nearly 40 years of back room politics, I met but one honest politician, just one. The rest were dishonest and or had money, booze, drug and sex problems. Politics attracts those kind. We go with what we have, at least Paul got into the starting gate, even if it was backwards.
...or are you secure in the belief that the "war on terror", which you supposedly oppose, will result in pakistan's nukes being neutralized? or are you just flat lying through your teeth about opposing these israeli wars fought by their american proxies?
We either work with the concepts that created the nation and made it the greatest ever or we try our own way. We've tried 'our own way' (?) in spades now and have the tangible, sickening results. We have to get back to basics (Constitution, Individual Responsibility, Lawful Taxation and 'currency', minding our own business, ending redistribution and entitlements, etc.) or else we end up supporting the mcCains, obamalamadingdongs, bushies, clintons, et al the puppets that work the matrix. I'd like to see you understand this while we all have time to work together. But you have a lot of (even recent) mileage that's pretty rough for many of us to fathom in contrast to posts like this one copied above. FWIW
Your a stupid fuck aren't you. I am an American firster. People like you are poison. If someone doesn't hate Israel then they are called an Israeli firster. Sorry buddy but I am an American first second and thirder. You are also a liar. Where did I say I wanted war with Iran? That would be terrible. The price of Gas would go to 5 dollars overnight. The economy would be fuirhter destroyed. Here is what I want. The UN burnt to the ground. I want restoration of the constitution. I want NAFTA GATT and other globalist bills repealed. I want our wars ended and our troops brought home. I want us to say fuck the national debt. The children aren't paying for all you dumb mother fuckers that ran up the debt. Guess what the debt is transferred to you assholes voted for it. You and your family can pay it. No one else is going to pay for it. Because guess what from now on congress can only spend FOR THEIR TERM. That is the only power they really ever had anyways. Then all you people who want to murder babies in the womb. Guess what. If you do it again you will be tried for murder and executed. No more murderers will be tolerated. Guess what. Corporations that want to send your jobs overseas. Go ahead. Get the fuck out. But if you want to sell here your going to pay a huge tariff to get it back. WTO..Shut the fuck up we will represend ourselves. China.. You are the fucking enemy. Get the fuck out of our shipyard in California and take your shoddy slave laobr products with you. Change your ways and we may let you sell here again. Iran. Use your nuclear energy for peacefull purposes. We are watching you very closely.
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First time I have ever done that. If I had sent her any money I would be doing the same. And it would be a first for me also.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. anybody who cant scrounge up guts enough to condemn izzies, izzie-firsters and their supporters cannot be an "american firster", in view of the damage being done to america by these wars instigated by israel and its supporters. so let's hear a little realism about israel, the izzie-firsters, and their golems, who are driving us into these wars that even you have to admit are damaging america. otherwise, we're gonna have to conclude you're lying. simple
James... When Beck raised his slimy head I said Medina needed to attack him at once. She did'nt and we see the result.
are you finally going to go fight you USNATOrael war mongering tool ?
IMO, with Beck it isn't just one issue. Honestly? I think his ADD is a real drawback to his personal and professional life. His amusement value for me has ended. Had he stayed in teaching mode (impossible; see his ADD) afa the constitution, the Fed, etc. and stopped the damn crying, and references to his alcoholism, he would have made a difference. Like Medina, he damaged himself especially since his speech Saturday at CPAC. It will take months for me to know if I'm right, but I'm thinking his rally on 8/28 will flop as will his events that precede it.
Sure did... voted for Palin. You're a fucking moran of the highest odor. Ignorant can be fixed, but not stoooooopid...
to say i'm disappointed is a vast understatement. 9/11 is a litmus test for me too though, in this case, i could swallow a candidate's disbelief for the state's issues she would bring to the table. yeah, i'm choosing the lesser of 3 evils-- something i swore i'd never do again. well, my vote's been cast and i'm back in the f'ing system. and what's really chapping my rear end is that Medina thinks i'm despicable. that means she also thinks that the families of the 9/11 victims who are asking questions are despicable too.
I haven't said anything new there. My opinion has not changed and is not going to change. It is set in STONE!
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Check your PM
Yeah, we know you moran. "Bomb-bomb-bomb, bomb-bomb Iran..." But you won't go fight with your USNATOrael comrades, will you dough boy ?
Well if she feels that people who want the truth in regards to the 9/11 attacks are despicable, then what does she think of those who LIE about the 9/11 attacks and conceal the truth, and what does she think of politicians who call the 9/11 victim's families "despicable"?
Exactly. Yet few people out there, including Medina apparently, are bright enough to realize that.
Some things I just decided I will not compromise on and obviously that is why I don't see, even if there were time (there isn't), a political solution. Remember where Governors from TX end up eventually...you got 3 losers in the pubbie-wing primary.
it helps to think of politicians as golems... once they've had their brain and spirit transplants, they're not fully human anymore... ...i mean, an AK47 is lethal, but it really isnt the AK's fault, it's just a tool, made by people who need to kill other people... i spose we could have hoped that medina had enough balls and smarts to maintain herself against beck and the rest of the izzie-first machinery, but i guess not. too bad
If it wasn't for Beck. You would have been less informed about your candidate. You should thank him for opening your eyes. ;) After all that. I would probably vote for Medina too. If it was just Medina, Perry and who is it Hutchison? I would vote Medina. So now you like Tull has opened this pandoras box. You have both voted or given money to a lesser of two evil candidates. I have a prediction. At least one of you votes for the R nominee in 2012. So it is Romney, Palentry(or whatever his name is), Palin, Jeb, Cheney. Who you going to vote for? Or if not who is the lesser evil in your opinion. I left Ron Paul out because he isn't going to run. Unfortunately he is to old.
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Whether the truthers are right or wrong is not relevant. They have the RIGHT to question the government any time this wish, on any subject. To say I am disappointed in Medina is an understatement. Once again we see that money talks (one way or another) and BS walks. (thats us)
true, eh ?
You have a reading comprehension problem.
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#66. To: Jethro Tull (#55)
Germany took out ads in US papers to warn passengers they knew what was going on and not to board the Lusitania if they didn't want to be buried at Sea. ONLY, IIRC, the Des Moines Register (out of some 3 dozen papers nationally, IIRC) ran the warning advertisement.
http://www.threeworldwars.com/world-war-1/ww1.htm The True Cause of World War 1
The Plan to Involve America in World War 1
The Sinking of the Lusitania
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#67. To: groundresonance (#63)
so you must also be against the israelis' relentless push to expand the war to iran.
#68. To: A K A Stone (#56)
You're a sit there and take it kind of guy. A lot of talk but no action.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#69. To: Ferret Mike (#57)
9-11 was an inside job, and until the truth is freely known and the criminals caught, prosecuted and hung there is no freedom in the United States. make no mistake about it.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#70. To: A K A Stone (#67)
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a nuclear Iran is a threat to our country
#71. To: A K A Stone (#61)
Against it from day 1.
mcCain palinsky, yes ??
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#72. To: Jethro Tull (#64)
I would have voted - I did contribute money - for her before she became Christian-like and showed herself to be a fraud. Now I hope she flip-flops on abortion so she can help pare down the ghetto dwellers and Hageeites.
#73. To: A K A Stone (#62)
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Toruk Makto
#74. To: A K A Stone (#67)
I don't support our attack on Afghanistan. Ron Paul did.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#75. To: A K A Stone (#67)
However a nuclear Iran is a threat to our country. Any muslim nation that has nukes is a threat to us.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#76. To: Ferret Mike (#73)
If I am such an Obamabot, why oh why then would I not only prefer to see Ron Paul as POTUS, I would work for him and vote for him if he ran against him in 2012 and got the GOP nod; or even made a third party run?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#77. To: A K A Stone (#72)
You always swore up and down and bragged you hadn't voted since
like Buchanan or something. Now you say you would have voted for her
#78. To: Rotara (#71)
But you voted for-supported mcCain palinsky, yes ??
#79. To: A K A Stone (#78)
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#80. To: Rotara (#76)
Toruk Makto
#81. To: Jethro Tull (#77)
Correct. The election of the Marxist has forced me to change strategy.
#82. To: A K A Stone (#81)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#83. To: A K A Stone (#81)
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However a nuclear Iran is a threat to our country. Any muslim nation that has nukes is a threat to us.
#84. To: Lod, Jethro tull (#46)
#85. To: A K A Stone (#81)
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want to answer Rotara's question about pakistan and its nukes?
#86. To: Ferret Mike (#80)
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If I am such an Obamabot, why oh why then would I not only prefer to see Ron Paul as POTUS, I would work for him and vote for him if he ran against him in 2012 and got the GOP nod; or even made a third party run?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#87. To: groundresonance (#79)
want to explain why only izzies, izzie-firsters like you, and their golems like hillary want war with iran?
#88. To: Cynicom (#15)
I am looking for an email addy to ask for my money back.
Lord Acton
#89. To: A K A Stone (#87)
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someone doesn't hate Israel then they are called an Israeli firster.
#90. To: James Deffenbach (#88)
#91. To: A K A Stone (#87)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#92. To: A K A Stone (#81)
#93. To: A K A Stone (#78)
But you voted for-supported mcCain palinsky, yes ??
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#94. To: Rotara, Ferret Mike, A K A Stone, Lod, Cynicom, PSUSA, noone222, Jethro Tull, Eric Stratton, Artisan, Esso (#69)
Amen to that. It is a litmus test issue for EVERY politickian everywhere and all the time.
#95. To: Rotara (#91)
are you finally going to go fight you USNATOrael war mongering tool ?
#96. To: christine (#94)
#97. To: A K A Stone (#95)
My opinion has not changed and is not going to change. It is set in STONE!
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#98. To: Artisan (#0)
Debra Medina agrees that 9/11 truthers' beliefs are 'despicable'
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#99. To: christine (#94)
that means she also thinks that the families of the 9/11 victims who are asking questions are despicable too.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#100. To: christine (#94)
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"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#101. To: christine (#94)
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to say i'm disappointed is a vast understatement
#102. To: christine, jethro tul (#94)
and what's really chapping my rear end is that Medina thinks i'm despicable.
#103. To: FormerLurker (#99)
Exactly. Yet few people out there, including Medina apparently, are bright enough to realize that.
#104. To: A K A Stone (#102)
If it wasn't for Beck. You would have been less informed about your candidate. You should thank him for opening your eyes. ;)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#105. To: Rotara (#97)
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