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Title: Debra Medina agrees that 9/11 truthers' beliefs are 'despicable' (AUDIO)
Source: EXAMINER
URL Source: http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x- ... s-beliefs-are-despicable-AUDIO
Published: Feb 22, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-02-22 03:00:31 by Artisan
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Debra Medina agrees that 9/11 truthers' beliefs are 'despicable' (AUDIO)
February 21, 11:57 PM
LA County Libertarian Examiner Martin Hill

After being interviewed by Glenn Beck and characterized by the talk show host as a '9/11/ Truther',

Debra Medina issued a statement Feb. 11 on her website regarding the Beck interview. She stated in part, "I have never been involved with the 9/11 truth movement, and there is no doubt in my mind that Muslim terrorists flew planes into those buildings on 9/11. I have not seen any evidence nor have I ever believed that our government was involved or directed those individuals in any way.... The real underlying question here, though, is whether or not people have the right to question our government. I think the fact that people are even asking questions on this level gets to the incredible distrust career politicians have fostered ..."

Questioned by Dallas talk show host Mark Davis last week, Medina had stronger and more derisive views of 9/11 truthers, agreeing with the host that anyone who dare would believe that the U.S. government was involved in the 2001 attack is "despicable'. Partial transcript:

Davis: "...it would have been over in a day, if after the Beck thing, you'd have said boy, I'm sorry, I messed up. I should've identified this 9/11 truther movement as the despicable paranoid cult that they are, what a horrible hateful belief to have in your head that 9/11 was an inside job. Why didnt you do that?

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#1. To: All (#0)

Related: Glenn Beck does a hit job on Debra Medina on his show this morning

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-02-22   3:09:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Artisan (#0)

She should have left well enough alone and said that all she told Beck was that people still had questions about it. And if she had wanted to go just a bit farther than that she could have said that even some of the commissioners of the 9/11 Commission had called for a new, independent investigation (and then be prepared to name them and source the quotes). She could have done herself some good but as it is she is shooting her own foot. At least that is how it seems to me.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-22   3:28:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Artisan (#0)

Debra Medina agrees that 9/11 truthers' beliefs are 'despicable'

Another politician falls to the Jewish - end of story.

your_neighbor  posted on  2010-02-22   4:15:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Artisan (#0)

These talk show pundits are propaganda specialists. Medina's handlers are telling her to back away from the 9-11 truth issue altogether.

Listening to this Talk pundit (Mark Davis) begin the interview, he loads the conversation with the Beck-Medina 9-11 truther stuff commenting that he only wants to clarify her position and then he throws in the "despicable" terminology twice ... he guided the conversation and she followed.

It would not have done her any good to begin that interview with an argument with the host, however I do think she may have handled the issue without sounding as if truthers were "despicable" ...

The host introduced the despicable term as applying to anyone that would even think that George Bush and Dick Cheney would SLAUGHTER 3000 Americans as an excuse to enter war against Iraq.

While many of us here may think that's exactly what happened (I'm one of those "despicable" types) many truthers are simply asking for a new and complete investigation to get at the truth, which a majority on the 9-11 Commission admitted was incomplete and error filled because the intel agents and agencies lied.

I'd like to see Medina get elected and start an intense investigation into the Kennedy Assassination focusing on George Herbert Walker Bush. All of the terror that has taken place since Kennedy was murdered is related and has been orchestrated by the same rogue elements of the CIA-MOSSAD-MI-6 ... banker owned Intelligence Agencies with old man Bush directing much of it.

That bastard needs to be tried and hung.

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-22   5:57:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Artisan (#0)

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-22   6:00:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Artisan (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-22   7:34:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Eric Stratton (#6) (Edited)

Well, I have a poor track record of donating money to Texas politicians, first Paul and now Medina.

On the surface it seems Medina is also all hat and no cattle like Paul, or am I reading this wrong?

Cynicom  posted on  2010-02-22   7:40:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Cynicom (#7) (Edited)

...or am I reading this wrong?

You're not reading anything wrong, OM.

Same song, second verse, a little bit louder, and a whole lot worse.

Edit: That little stunt RP pulled on us cured me of ever donating to a politician ever again, TX or elsewhere. That really busted my onions. I'll not be fooled again.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2010-02-22   7:47:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Esso (#8)

I was just up and a tad foggy.

Awake now and read the transcript. I am not a full time truther in many asp;ects but I do believe our government was involved in some fashion.

Beyond that, how can she run on an anti government platform if she would deny millions of Americans the right to question the government.

I suspect the "influence" has arrived.

When the Beck ambush happened I said the only thing she could do was to attack Beck, when she did not I suspected we had been had yet again.

Oh, well, I am not a virgin at this.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-02-22   7:54:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Esso, Cynicom (#8)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-22   7:54:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Esso, Lod, christine (#8)

That really busted my onions. I'll not be fooled again.

My donating threshold will be raised much higher.

Lod and Christine were convinced and that was good enough for me.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-02-22   7:56:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Eric Stratton, Esso (#10)

Rather, I see millions of deaths for one reason or another, some self induced like martial law, perhaps others from starvation or nukes, who knows, but I'm more and more starting to see little if anything positive ever for us as a civilization.

Agreed.

The only question is not if, but when.

I wont be here to see it or live it, just as well.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-02-22   7:59:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Artisan, All (#0) (Edited)

Davis: "...it would have been over in a day, if after the Beck thing, you'd have said boy, I'm sorry, I messed up. I should've identified this 9/11 truther movement as the despicable paranoid cult that they are, what a horrible hateful belief to have in your head that 9/11 was an inside job. Why didnt you do that?

Medina: "Yeah I um, I agree with ya Mark, I laughed it off whenever he said I was a truther cause I thought it was so absurd and i should have just said NO, absolutely I'm not a truther. I think it's abundantly clear I'm not a truther; um ya know those things happen to us and we pick up say should've done that better, move on, and that's what we've done."

Later the host continues "someone walking around with the belief that America would do this to its' own people .. that president Bush and those around him would slaughter our own citizens in order to justify war , is a despicable thing to believe.

Medina: "Agreed!"

Davis: "And you want to be on record as agreeing with that?"

Medina: "Agreed . yeah"...I'm..I...I was thinking in terms of the commission report, not in terms of what, ya know, individuals are out there doing, and the commission report is the thing that I was getting back to.

Oh boy, time to send in ANOTHER 100 bux everyone ??? /s


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-22   8:11:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Eric Stratton (#10)

People looking for work now aren't going to find it for years. That's simply too long for people not prepared to live that long on what they now have. I expect those problems to begin burgeoning to unignorable levels by the end of the year.

This is why we need to start our own economy, totally apart from the "official" economy.

But it won't happen until more are feeling the pain.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-02-22   8:11:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Rotara (#13)

Oh boy, time to send in ANOTHER 100 bux everyone ??? /s

I am looking for an email addy to ask for my money back.

First time I have ever done that.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-02-22   8:12:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Cynicom (#12)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-22   8:13:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Eric Stratton (#16)

Heart.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-02-22   8:14:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Eric Stratton, Cynicom (#10)

I'm tellin' ya, the only thing that's gonna save current generations of Americans is a redeal of our nation's government, "abolishing it" as the Declaration of Independence states.

Right, it's time to disband the federal government. That's the ONLY solution I'll get behind. I've had it with politics. The crooks deliberately creating the problems have no intention of changing their course, and anyone who can't see that by now, is functionally retarded.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2010-02-22   8:16:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Cynicom (#17)

Your heart good enough to aim and squeeze a few more times ?


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-22   8:19:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: PSUSA (#14)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-22   8:20:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Cynicom (#15)

Later the host continues "someone walking around with the belief that America would do this to its' own people .. that president Bush and those around him would slaughter our own citizens in order to justify war , is a despicable thing to believe.

Medina: "Agreed!"

I hope all the 2010er believers wake up pretty soon themselves...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-22   8:20:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Cynicom (#17)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-22   8:21:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Rotara (#19)

Your heart good enough to aim and squeeze a few more times ? Your heart good enough to aim and squeeze a few more times ?

No Sir.

Day to day.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-02-22   8:22:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Esso (#18)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-22   8:25:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: noone222, lod, christine (#4)

I don't get you folks. She clearly dissed you and you still support her.

You say he did a hatchet job on her. What the fuck are you talking about. He gave her the opportunity before a large audience to talk about 911 truth. And you guys call it a hatchet job. Then she calls you idiots and you still want to vote for her. I can maybe understand wanting to vote for her. But why dis Beck for bringing up a relevant question?

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-22   8:27:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Eric Stratton (#22)

Your faith is in Christ, correct?

Oddly enough, it once was, now I just dont know.

At this station in life, nothing looks the same as in the past, and that is just what one does...review the past, in doing so there is much more clarity, more understanding. Actually it gives one a vantage point beyond others.

All that was trivial and meaningless is swept away, the truth stands out.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-02-22   8:27:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Esso (#18)

funtionally retarded

I got an early vibe on this one.

Red flag when you don't have 911 figured out in 2010 OR don't have the courage of standing up to the mother fuckers...which category medina falls into I don't know but it's one of the two.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-22   8:27:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Rotara (#27)

When Beck did his thing, I made the statement that the only recourse Medina had was to attack Beck.

Issuing clarifying "statements" is a sure sign of a loser. Still looking for my money back.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-02-22   8:32:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Cynicom (#26)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-22   8:35:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Cynicom (#28)

When Beck did his thing, I made the statement that the only recourse Medina had was to attack Beck.

Can you quote my exactly what Beck said that was so upsetting to you?

By the way. Bless your heart.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-22   8:38:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Cynicom (#17)

no!

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I've known about the benefits of oral chelation for years. Last week I stumbled on this site and spent at least a day there. Why not e-mail him...he says he responds.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-02-22   8:46:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Cynicom, Eric Stratton (#23)

No Sir.

Day to day.

don't give up Cyni.

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and bump to what Eric Stratton said.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-02-22   8:57:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Artisan (#0)

She should have followed her instincts, and stayed with them.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-02-22   9:00:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Jethro Tull (#33)

I want my money back.

Lets see if she remits.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-02-22   9:02:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Artisan, Lod (#0)

Debra Medina agrees that 9/11 truthers' beliefs are 'despicable' (AUDIO)

Hey, Lod, is this the person you forwarded one of my posts to?

THANKS A LOT!!! [lol....just kidding....i have a feeling i was on their list before that.]

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-02-22   9:04:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Cynicom (#32)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-22   9:12:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Cynicom (#34)

Ron Paul just committed political suicide on CNBC a little bit ago, going on about how we shouldn't be in the Middle East fighting Izzy's wars, and how we should leave Iran alone, etc.

He won't be pulling the ye olde switcheroo on us this next election.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2010-02-22   9:15:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Cynicom (#28)

Issuing clarifying "statements" is a sure sign of a loser.

I resemble that remark...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-22   9:16:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Esso (#37)

going on about how we shouldn't be in the Middle East fighting Izzy's wars

Ron Paul actually put this out there ? He's not going to be the media darling no mas...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-22   9:19:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Cynicom (#34)

I wonder if all future politicians can be asked their thoughts on Pearl Harbor?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-02-22   9:19:19 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Jethro Tull (#40)

...and the Lusitania ?


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-22   9:19:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Rotara (#41)

Remember the Maine! To hell with Spain!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-02-22   9:21:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Jethro Tull (#40)

I'm sure they all got the same brainwashing in government skools that we all did, more or less, from a curriculum content standpoint.

The serious people do their own homework and search for TRUTH so as to know how we all got to this point so that after we win the war, we can effectively lead.

IMO


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-22   9:22:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Rotara (#39)

Ron Paul actually put this out there ?

I don't think he actually called them "Israel's wars" but the message was clear. The commutators cut him off by talking over him right on cue.

The jew-toobs will be flooding out post haste.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2010-02-22   9:26:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Eric Stratton, all (#20)

Back to my primary point, the only solution is a complete redeal/abolishment of the current system.

Agreed. But we need a transitional system to get us from point A to point B. That is where our own economy can come in.

9/11 being sustained is the lynchpin in the NWO's hold on liberty.

And it helps not at all that people will continue to latch onto a candidate hoping that finally there is someone to represent them. How many fucking times do people need to get raked over the coals before they fucking GET IT!

Get it thru your thick skulls that they will never represent you. They dont give a rats ass about you. In fact, they hate you and wish you were fucking dead. Do you get it now? Those that thought this sniveling cunt was going to represent them, do you get it now?!?! You are on your own. Until the next candidate comes along, that is...

This is where we are losing the propaganda battle. We preach to the choir, and think everyone in the pews gets it. They don't get it.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-02-22   9:49:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Cynicom, Artisan, all (#35)

Disheartening information - it's amazing how long the official 9/11 fable has existed, and how .gov and their tools have turned it into a political tar-baby to discredit their opposition.

When I met Debra, the furthest thing from my mind was asking her what she thought of our New Pearl Harbor type event, and who executed it.

My bad.

Lod  posted on  2010-02-22   9:59:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: A K A Stone (#25)

But why dis Beck for bringing up a relevant question?

9/11 Truth is not an issue the state government of Texas can deal with at all. Now if it were the 1960s and we were dealing with the massive conspiracy/coverup that was the JFK assassination, I can see relevance in asking a potential governor about what he or she planned to do about that.

Having said that, I am puzzled, first of all, as to why Beck is interested in taking sides in a Texas GOP gubernatorial primary, as he obviously HAS very openly sided with Rick Perry (Beck wants to "French kiss" him), and also why this would be of interest to his audience outside of Texas. IOW, why did he regionalize his show that day and on following days when he continued to talk about the issue as he tried to equate continuing to question 9/11 with "Holocaust denial" or something?

Of course, the biggest blunder of all was the decision by Debra Medina to talk with Beck at all. Perhaps she was not wanting to give him a chance to demonize her in another way by saying "Debra Medina refused to go on my show." But that would have been preferable to what happened by accepting his invitation.

Why does Beck even have guests? Limbaugh doesn't.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2010-02-22   10:13:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: PSUSA (#45)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-22   10:13:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Rotara (#43)

"I'm sure they all got the same brainwashing in government skools that we all did, more or less, from a curriculum content standpoint."

Good point. Though I see public schools failing to teach people how to learn and think for themselves. Which is something people should aggressively do throughout their lives.

Public schools are more into socialization that teaches compliance and a flock of sheep mentality. I was lucky to go to a private school, took Latin, had to write long papers complete with footnotes and got points deducted for any lack of attention to detail or made it obvious my thought process was involved in the crafting of it.

They punish independent thinkers and people who show spunk and audacity in public schools. Most of which would do the country more good if they were closed then by being allowed to remain open to continue their dirty work.


Toruk Makto

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-22   10:24:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Eric Stratton (#48)

'm under no delusion that everyone in the pews gets it.

Neither am I.

But I am surprised how eager some are; people that should have known better, get all excited and fired up when a candidate throws them a rotten bone.

They know all politicians are scum, yet they will allow themselves to be fooled over and over again. All that politician has to do is say the right words. Never mind that politicians actions. Just words are enough to satisfy them.

You can see it right here on this board. They talk about candidates as if they matter.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-02-22   10:25:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Sam Houston (#47)

Here is the way I see it. Beck thinks 911 "truthers" are nuts. That is his right.

He caught wind that Medina is a 911 truther.

So he thinks she is unfit.

So he asks her about it. (freedom of the press and speech)

She likely has some 911 truth sympathies. But she is a wisy washy politician (most are). So she calculates and decides not to mention that she is a closet truther.

All Beck did was ask a question. You may think it is not relevant to the governors race and others may agree. But the question is out there and she could have answered it anyway she wanted. She could have hit a home run out of the park and said she thinks it was an inside job. But she thought that would minimize her chances. So she chose her path. No sense getting mad at Beck, all he did was ask a question. A question people were interested in. I suspect christine and lodwick wouldn't have supported her if she thought 911 truthers were despicable like she said. She sounds like a typical finger in the wind politician.

So here we have it. Her and Beck think the same about 911. But you folks hate Beck and love Medina for that view. It isn't logical.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-22   10:25:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: A K A Stone (#51)

Beck's question to Medina is as relevant to Texas politics as is what brand of wacky religion she does or doesn't belong to. Medina's mistake was to not have refered Beck to one hooked nosed Jew, Larry Silverstein, and his "pull it" comment (not to mention the many billions of dollars his $25 million personal investment made him in a mere 6-weeks)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-02-22   10:32:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Jethro Tull (#42)

http://911review.com/articles/anon/false_flag_perations.html

History of
American False Flag Operations

The leaders of smaller and less industrialised nations are not madmen (whatever the media claims). They also are generally better informed than their citizens. In a war an attacker does not need equal forces compared to the enemy. The attacker needs a 5-fold local superiority, or better. No one begins wars without very definite objectives and a quick victory in sight. If a war with more even military balance erupts, someone has been mislead and walked into a trap (usually arranged by third party).

After the American war of Independence (1776-1779), and an English challenge to that independence (1812-1814) no single nation has planned an offensive war against the USA. It is probable that a strong coalition of Anglo-French-led European nations planned to split the USA into two states through diplomatic recognition of the Confederate states possibly followed up by naval blockade embargoing the Union. At that time the British Empire was the strongest naval power, and the French the second strongest. The events led, however, into the Civil War (1860-1865) and due to the Russian intervention 1863 (1863) on the Union's side, those European plans were quietly abandoned.

Mexican wars 1819, 1846-48: Long series of operations, commencing with the annexion of Florida (1819) and followed by a declaration of independence of Texas from Mexico (1836). Provocative troop movements near the U.S. southern border caused an incident which led to war. (It is said the US built a fortification 150 km inside the Mexican border.) The annexation of Texas by the USA and the conquest of California, New Mexico, and nearby territories followed. Mexico had a weak government at that time, because after Napoleon conquered Spain (1809) their former colonies soon revolted. Mexico had been a colony of the Spanish kingdom but now they revolted and formed a republic. There were a series of revolts, not just one.

Spanish-American war, 1898: The surprise explosion of the battleship Maine at Havana, Cuba. 255 of the crew died. The Hearst press accused the Spanish, claiming that the explosion was caused by a remote-controlled mine. The USA declared war on Spain, and conquered Philippines, Guam and Cuba. Subsequent investigations revealed that the explosion originated inside the Maine and that it was either an accident, such as a coal explosion, or some type of time bomb inside the battleship. Divers investigating the shipwreck found that the armour plates of the ship were blown bending outwards, not inwards.

World War I, 1914-1918: A U-boat torpedo hit ocean liner Lusitania near Britain and some 1200 people, including 128 Americans, on board lost their lives. Subsequent investigations revealed that the major explosions were inside the Lusitania, as it was secretly transporting 6 million pounds of artillery shells and rifle ammunition, as well as other explosives on behalf of Morgan banking corporation to help their clients, the Britain and the France. It was against US laws to transport war materials and passengers in the same ship.

World War 2, 1939-1945: A U-boat torpedo hit the ocean liner Athenia near Britain with some 1100 passengers, of which 311 were Americans. The sea was calm and only 118 people on board lost their lives. The ship was sunk because it behaved like a military transport, blackened out and zigzagging. This incident wasn't enough to precipitate war, and the Germans also refused to be provoked by several American acts of war. Americans confiscated German merchant ships, and Americans started to support the British with various lend-lease items, US volunteer pilots joined the RAF and some RAF pilots were trained in the US, US gave the British 50 old but usable WW1 destroyers and 20 modern torpedo boats, tanks, light bombers, fighter aircraft like P-40s and so on. American destroyers also escorted the convoys bound to Britain, and attacked German U-boats even far away from those convoys. The US did not maintain a neutral stance attitude towards the warring nations.

The US naval intelligence, chief of Japan desk planned and suggested "8 insults", which should bring Japan into war with the US. President Roosevelt executed this plan immediately and also added some other insults, enraging the Japan. The most serious one was a total blockade of Japanese oil imports, as agreed between the Americans, British and the Dutch. FDR also declared an all-out embargo against the Japan and forbade them the use of Panama canal, impeding Japan's access to Venezuelan oil.

The Flying Tigers volunteer air group successfully fighting the Japanese in China with some 90 fairly modern P-40Bs was another effective provocation that is not generally acknowledged by historical accounts of World War 2, most of which fail to mention any air combat action prior to 7th December 1941. But at that time the Japanese had already had lost about 100 military aircraft, mostly bombers, to the Tigers. After Pearl Harbor these squadrons were some of the the hardest-hitting ones in the US service.

The attack on Pearl Harbour followed some 6 months later. Having broken the Japanese encryption codes, the Americans knew what was going to happen, when and where, but the president did not dispatch this information to Pearl Harbor. Americans even gave their friends the British 3 Magic decrypting machines which automatically opened encrypted Japanese military traffic. But this same information was not available to the commanders of Hawaii. The movement of the fleet was also visible in the very effective radio direction finding network. Japan had an alliance with Germany, and the Germans upheld their promises by declaring the war against the USA right after the Japanese declaration.

Two scapegoats, the navy commander Admiral Husband Kimmel, and the army commander Lt. General Walter Short were found incompetent and demoted as they were allowed to retire. Short died 1949 and Kimmel 1958. In 1995, the US Congress re-examined this decision and endorsed it. Then in 2000 some archive information came to light and the US Senate passed a resolution stating that both hadserved in Hawaii "competently and professionally". In 1941 they were denied vital information, and even on presidential orders purposefully mislead into believing that the Japanese feet could be expected from the southwest. These commanders have yet to be rehabilited by the Pentagon.

Korean War, 1950-1953: South Korean incursions (the Tiger regiment etc.) into North Korea (1949) led to contrary claims and into war. The cause of this war propably was covert action involving leaders of Taiwan, South Korea and the US military-industrial complex (John Foster Dulles has been mentioned as an organizer of the hostilities.) After the unpublished hostilities in 1949, the communist powers were strongly backing North Korea.

Chiang Kai Sek was being abandoned, isolated and falling prey to the powerful communist Chinese operations. The right-wing South Korean ruler was expected to loose the soon-to-be-elections. The American military-industrial complex went into high gear again, and huge government orders for equipment were flowing in.

The American-led UN forces had difficult times early in the war, but after sufficient forces arrived they advanced victoriously and penetrated deep into the North Korea. The strong Chino-Russian intervention into the war once again turned the tides, the Chinese with vast armies on ground, and the Soviets less visibly with large numbers of aircraft, nearly costing the UN forces the war.

Finally the front stabilised along the original 38th parallel armistice line. The war resulted in the death of 3 million Korean Chinese and the destruction of virtually all of the Korean cities, and left Taiwan in strong American protection and South Korea firmly in the hands of the right-wing president Syngman Rhee. Some 55,000 Americans lost their lives.

Vietnam War: "The Tonkin incident", where American destroyer Maddox was supposedly attacked twice by three North Vietnamese torpedo boats in 1964 in the Gulf of Tonkin never happened. What was happening at the time were aggressive South Vietnamese raids against the North in the same general area. Huge American presence wasn't decisive and President Nixon negotiated a "peace with honour" 1973. This war was lost, when the North Vietnam finally conquered South Vietnam 1975.

Grenada invasion: The Grenadian leader favouring the left and having invited Cubans to help building the infrastructure, extending the airport to accomodate long range Soviet aircraft, was replaced at a moment when he was negotiating in the UN, New York for a more open UN UFO policy based on Grenada initiatives. The proffered reason for the immediate invasion was that American medical students studying in the Grenada were in danger due the Cuban presence. The new leader supported by the US favoured more traditional values and the right.

War on Drugs: The war was launched by Richard M Nixon sometime around June 17,1971. The drug problem was found bad within the army in Viet Nam around 1968 prompting action was required towards the end of the war. Nowadays it is estimated that the military will never win the War on Drugs. The street prices of illicit drugs did not change significantly in the USA despite the military action in foreign drug-producing countries. The Colombian experience, with local military supported by the US, has shown that peace is more important than war against drugs. The Colombians have successfully negotiated some 1000s of guerrilla fighters back into the society and out of jungle.

This "war" actually seems to be a pretext for military invasions into less developed countries, where covert "bad" drug lords on behalf of western intelligence services are producing drugs into US and first world markets. This operation produces huge incomes, generating black budget money for those intelligence services managing the global drug operations.

Panama invasion: The incident between American and Panamanian troops led to invasion. The leader Noriega was changed and the earlier Carter administration plan to hand the control of the canal over to Panama was cancelled. The strategic importance of the canal has surpassed any more just thinking in the US global domination policy.

US-Israeli sponsored war between Iraq and Iran, 1980-1988: The US has built power bases in the Middle East in Iran starting with the CIA-organised coup 1953, where Iranian prime minister Mossadeq was replaced with the Shah of Iran Reza Pahlavi and he by his son Mohammad Reza Pahlavi. Iran was equipped with the best western military equipment, including the American F-14 fighters with Phoenix missiles and the British Chieftain MBTs. Unfortunately there was in 1979 a coup of ayatollah Khomeini replacing the Shah and founding an Islamite nation.

After this, the US warmed up relations with their good Iraqi friend Saddam Hussein, and started to build a nation capable of challenging the Iran. Iraq acquired large numbers of effective weapons including factories able to produce older versions of gas warfare agents. These would later be called WMDs, which of course they were not, being the WW1-vintage weapons.

The war broke out and was fought to exhaustion because third-party powers, especially Israel, were carefully monitoring the power balance supplying more weapons to the side which seemed to be loosing. "Too bad they both cannot loose" is how Kissinger evaluated this situation.

Desert Storm (First Gulf war), 1991): Hussein asked for permission from the US (via their ambassador April Gillespie) and got an answer that the US does not care Arab quarrels. That was a trap, and after Saddam occupied Kuwait, George Bush Sr. mobilised a coalition of some 40 nations to "liberate Kuwait" and to smash the recently-built Iraqi military power base. This also involved a media hoax, where the daughter of Kuwaiti US ambassador played nurse on TV and testified to "witnessing" Iraqi soldiers throwing babies out of incubators in Kuwait.

War on Terror: The war was launched by Bush administration October 2001. The war was claimed to be the response on terrorism, especially the 9-11 incidents. Most of the people in the world today know that these reasons are false and that those events were based on MIH type (make it happen) inside job.

Enduring Freedom (Afghanistan invasion), 7.10.2001-: Without any evidence, the former CIA-asset, a Saudi-Arabian Osama bin Laden was claimed to be the mastermind behind the 9/11 strikes at the WTC and the Pentagon. Such a complex operation, if actually executed which it was not, in this case would be much beyond the capabilities of anything in Afghanistan. Only some top ten intelligence services in the world could hope to be successful in such an operation involving forgery, infiltration, living "underground" in a foreign non-Muslim country, coordination of moves, illegal arms, hi-quality flight training, accurate aircraft navigation in no-visibility conditions and so on. Perhaps even less, because the friends of the US (at that time, still most of the world) would also have been interested in stopping the attack.

Enduring Justice (Second Gulf war), 20.3.2003-: later known with less irony as Operation Iraqi Freedom

The claimed reason of the attack was that Iraq was a clear and present danger to the US with wmd's available within less than an hour after the decision to assemble them has been made. Since no wmd's were found, and after the Iraqi also scrapped some 800 long range Scud style missiles before the US coalition attack, the reason for the invasion was changed into "bringing the democracy into Iraq".


References

Why the Pearl Harbor took place

Robert B. Stinnett: Day of Deceit: the Truth about FDR and Pearl Harbor, 2000
Mark Emerson Wiley: Pearl Harbour - mother of all conspiracies
http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/6315/pearl.html

Cordell Hull's Ultimatum to Japan

http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/6315/hullno26.html

What the US usually knew in advance (books)

Fredrick W. Winterbotham: The Ultra secret, 1974
Bradley F. Smith: The Ultra-Magic Deals, 1992
F.H.Hinsley: British Intelligence in the WW2 (4 large volumes), 1988

How to create innocent-looking wars

http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/wars/

How wars are made

http://tacklingthetoughtopics.net/default.htm
Especially these items: World War 1, World War 2, Korean War, The Vietnam War

How to create distant future wars

The Best Enemy Money Can Buy by Antony C. Sutton
Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution by Antony C. Sutton
Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler by Antony C. Sutton
The out-of-print book:

From Major Jordan's Diaries (Google this item)


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-22   10:32:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Jethro Tull (#52)

It is not up to you to decide what is relevant. Your just pissed because Medina turned out to be like the rest of them.

She shares Becks view of 911.

She is also against abortion like Beck.

Beck is right on most conservative issues. Except it bugs you guys and me that he is for the war and disses 911 truthers. Well guess what. You give a pass for Medina for having the same views.

Or do you think she is lying about her views on 911?

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-22   10:37:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Rotara (#53)

When Hearst Artist Frederic Remington, cabled from Cuba in 1897 that "there will be no war," William Randolph Hearst cabled back: "You furnish the pictures and I'll furnish the war."

Read more:

HERE

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-02-22   10:39:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Jethro Tull (#52)

Besides you don't even vote. So what do you care. You're a sit there and take it kind of guy. A lot of talk but no action.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-22   10:42:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: A K A Stone (#54) (Edited)

The system is set up to let anyone who looks like they will get a top government job know that they will be toast if they expose the crimes of the false flag operations of 9 11. She still should win as I would rather see someone win who is troubled by lies their arms were twisted to utter then an idiot who has no clue in the first place.

9-11 was an inside job, and until the truth is freely known and the criminals caught, prosecuted and hung there is no freedom in the United States. make no mistake about it.


Toruk Makto

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-22   10:42:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: PSUSA (#50)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-22   10:45:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: A K A Stone (#54)

Except it bugs you guys and me that he is for the war

You don't support the One World Monopolists' (R&D alike) LONG WAR on TER-RAH ??


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-22   10:48:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: A K A Stone (#54)

I'm not pissed. Politicians, like Christians, usually expose themselves.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-02-22   10:48:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Rotara (#59)

Against it from day 1.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-22   10:53:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Ferret Mike (#57)

The system is set up to let anyone who looks like they will get a top government job know that they will be toast if they expose the crimes of the false flag operations of 9 11. She still should win as I would rather see someone win who is troubled by lies their arms were twisted to utter then an idiot who has no clue in the first place.

9-11 was an inside job, and until the truth is freely known and the criminals caught, prosecuted and hung there is no freedom in the United States. make no mistake about it.

Is that why you support Obama?

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-22   10:55:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: A K A Stone (#61) (Edited)

You don't support the One World Monopolists' (R&D alike) LONG WAR on TER-RAH ??

Against it from day 1.

so you must also be against the israelis' relentless push to expand the war to iran.

or you're lying.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-22   10:56:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: A K A Stone (#56)

I would have voted - I did contribute money - for her before she became Christian-like and showed herself to be a fraud. Now I hope she flip-flops on abortion so she can help pare down the ghetto dwellers and Hageeites.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-02-22   10:59:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Artisan (#0)

The only reason Beck mentioned this was to discredit Medina and lure votes into RINO Rick Perry's camp. Sheesh, Beck lost all credibility backing that POS who wanted a Gardisil mandate for all young girls in Texas........of course, Beck doesn't mention this criminal and crap on the constitution stance. Oh no, why would that be relevant to THIS election?

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-22   11:00:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Jethro Tull (#55)

Germany took out ads in US papers to warn passengers they knew what was going on and not to board the Lusitania if they didn't want to be buried at Sea. ONLY, IIRC, the Des Moines Register (out of some 3 dozen papers nationally, IIRC) ran the warning advertisement.

Other information below:
http://www.threeworldwars.com/world-war-1/ww1.htm

What Really Caused World War 1?

The True Cause of World War 1

History books record that World War I started when the nations went to war to avenge the assassination of the Archduke Francis Ferdinand, the heir to the Habsburg throne, on June 28, 1914.

This is the typical explanation. But the "revisionist historian" knows just what caused and what the purpose was of the conflagration of World War I.

Up until America's entry into this war, the American people had followed the wise advice of President George Washington given in his farewell address, delivered to the nation on September 17, 1796.  President Washington said: "It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliance with any portion of the foreign world.... Why, by interweaving our destiny with that of any part of Europe, entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of European ambition, rivalship, interest, humour or caprice?'

President Washington attempted to warn the American people about getting embroiled in the affairs of Europe. But in 1914, it was not to be.  There were those who were secretly planning America's involvement in World War I whether the American people wanted it or not.

The Plan to Involve America in World War 1

The pressure to involve the American government started in 1909, long before the actual assassination of the Archduke.

Norman Dodd, former director of the Committee to Investigate Tax Exempt Foundations of the U.S. House of Representatives, testified that the Committee was invited to study the minutes of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace as part of the Committee's investigation. The Committee stated: "The trustees of the Foundation brought up a single question.  If it is desirable to alter the life of an entire people, is there any means more efficient than war.... They discussed this question... for a year and came up with an answer: There are no known means more efficient than war, assuming the objective is altering the life of an entire people.  That leads them to a question: How do we involve the United States in a war.  This is in 1909."

So the decision was made to involve the United States in a war so that the "life of the entire people could be altered." This was the conclusion of a foundation supposedly committed to "peace."

The method by which the United States was drawn into the war started on October 25, 1911, when Winston Churchill was appointed the First Lord of the Admiralty in England.

Winston Churchill is an interesting individual, as he later came to the conclusion that there was indeed a master conspiracy at work in the major events of the world, when he wrote the following in 1920: "From the days of Spartacus—Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, to those of Trotsky (Russia)... this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization... has been steadily growing."

The second key appointment made during the pre-war period was the appointment of Franklin Delano Roosevelt as Assistant Secretary of the Navy by President Woodrow Wilson.

Roosevelt is also on record as concluding that there was a conspiracy, at least in the United States. He once wrote to Colonel Edward Mandell House: "The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson, and I am not wholly excepting the administration of W.W. (Woodrow Wilson.) The country is going through a repetition of Jackson's fight with the Bank of the United States—only on a far bigger and broader basis."

The Sinking of the Lusitania

The next step in the maneuvering of the United States into the war came when the Cunard Lines, owner of the ocean liner, the Lusitania, turned the ship over to the First Lord of the Admiralty, Winston Churchill. It now became a ship of the English Navy and was under the control of the English government.

The ship was sent to New York City where it was loaded with six million rounds of ammunition, owned by J.P. Morgan & Co., to be sold to England and France to aid in their war against Germany.

It was known that the very wealthy were interested in involving the American government in that war, and Secretary of State William Jennings Bryan was one who made note of this. "As Secretary [Bryan] had anticipated, the large banking interests were deeply interested in the World War because of wide opportunities for large profits. On August 3, 1914, even before the actual clash of arms, the French firm of Rothschild Freres cabled to Morgan and Company in New York suggesting the flotation of a loan of $100,000,000, a substantial part of which was to be left in the United States, to pay for French purchases of American goods."

England broke the German war code on December 14, 1914, so that "By the end of January, 1915, [British Intelligence was] able to advise the Admiralty of the departure of each U-boat as it left for patrol...."

This meant that the First Lord of the Admiralty, Winston Churchill, knew where every U-boat was in the vicinity of the English Channel that separated England and France.

The ocean liner was set to sail to England already at war with Germany.  The German government had placed advertisements in the New York newspapers warning the American people considering whether or not to sail with the ship to England that they would be sailing into a war zone, and that the liner could be sunk.

Secretary Bryan promised that "he would endeavor to persuade the President (Woodrow Wilson) publicly to warn the Americans not to travel [aboard the Lusitania]. No such warning was issued by the President, but there can be no doubt that President Wilson was told of the character of the cargo destined for the Lusitania. He did nothing... ."

Even though Wilson proclaimed America's neutrality in the European War, in accordance with the prior admonitions of George Washington, his government was secretly plotting to involve the American people by having the Lusitania sunk. This was made public in the book The Intimate Papers of Colonel House, written by a supporter of the Colonel, who recorded a conversation between Colonel House and Sir Edward Grey of England, the Foreign Secretary of England:

Grey:  What will America do if the Germans sink an ocean liner with American passengers on board?

House:  I believe that a flame of indignation would sweep the United States and that by itself would be sufficient to carry us into the war.

On May 7, 1915, the Lusitania was sunk off the coast of County Cork, Ireland by a U-boat after it had slowed to await the arrival of the English escort vessel, the Juno, which was intended to escort it into the English port.  The First Lord of the Admiralty, Winston Churchill, issued orders that the Juno was to return to port, and the Lusitania sat alone in the channel.  Because Churchill knew of the presence of three U-boats in the vicinity, it is reasonable to presume that he had planned for the Lusitania to be sunk, and it was. 1201 people lost their lives in the sinking.

This sinking has been described by Colin Simpson, the author of a book entitled The Lusitania, as "the foulest act of wilful murder ever committed on the seas."

But the event was not enough to enable President Wilson to declare war against the German government, and the conspirators changed tactics. They would use other means to get the American people involved in the war, as the "flame of indignation" did not sweep the United States as had been planned.

Robert Lansing, the Assistant Secretary of State, is on record as stating: "We must educate the public gradually — draw it along to the point where it will be willing to go into the war."

After the sinking of the Lusitania, two inquiries were held, one by the English government, in June, 1915, and one by the American government in 1918.  Mr. Simpson has written that "Both sets of archives... contain meager information. There are substantial differences of fact in the two sets of papers and in many cases it is difficult to accept that the files relate to the same vessel."

But in both inquiries, the conclusions were the same: torpedoes and not exploding ammunition sank the Lusitania, because there was no ammunition aboard. The cover-up was now official.

But there have been critics of these inquiries. One was, of course, the book written by Colin Simpson, who did the research necessary to write his book in the original minutes of the two inquiries.

The Los Angeles Times reviewed Mr. Simpson's book and concluded: "The Lusitania proves beyond a reasonable doubt that the British government connived at the sinking of the passenger ship in order to lure America into World War I. The Germans, whose torpedo struck the liner, were the unwitting accomplices or victims of a plot probably concocted by Winston Churchill."

President Wilson was seeking re-election in 1916. He campaigned on his record of "keeping us out of the War" during his first term of office from 1912 to 1916.

 

Next:  The Real Reason for World War 1 continued...

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"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-22   11:00:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: groundresonance (#63)

so you must also be against the israelis' relentless push to expand the war to iran.

or you're lying.

I don't support our attack on Afghanistan. Ron Paul did.

I don't support our attack on Iraq.

Now on the other hand. From the sidelines. I can see why Israel feels threatened by Iran. So I can understand why they might do something about it. Justifiably so. But I am not a globalist. At this point I don't think it is necessarily our fight. However a nuclear Iran is a threat to our country. Any muslim nation that has nukes is a threat to us. We should however watch Iran like a hawk. Something may need to be done at some point.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-22   11:01:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: A K A Stone (#56)

You're a sit there and take it kind of guy. A lot of talk but no action.

Thank you for your participation in the OWM's selection charade. We couldn't do it without YOU !

Sincerely,

The Bilderberg Society Membership


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-22   11:02:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Ferret Mike (#57)

9-11 was an inside job, and until the truth is freely known and the criminals caught, prosecuted and hung there is no freedom in the United States. make no mistake about it.

Amen to that. It is a litmus test issue for EVERY politickian everywhere and all the time.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-22   11:03:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: A K A Stone (#67) (Edited)

a nuclear Iran is a threat to our country

not according to our intelligence services.

not according to common sense.

not according to the iranians.

the only people who are pushing this "iran is a threat to america" business are the izzies and izzie-firsters like you.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-22   11:03:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: A K A Stone (#61)

Against it from day 1.

But you voted for-supported mcCain palinsky, yes ??


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-22   11:04:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Jethro Tull (#64)

I would have voted - I did contribute money - for her before she became Christian-like and showed herself to be a fraud. Now I hope she flip-flops on abortion so she can help pare down the ghetto dwellers and Hageeites.

You always swore up and down and bragged you hadn't voted since like Buchanan or something. Now you say you would have voted for her. Then you talked about giving her money. Sounds like you feel suckered. I mean coming out and considering voting for a candidate for the first time in more then a decade. then give her money. Then Beck brought you back to reality.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-22   11:04:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: A K A Stone (#62) (Edited)

If I am such an Obamabot, why oh why then would I not only prefer to see Ron Paul as POTUS, I would work for him and vote for him if he ran against him in 2012 and got the GOP nod; or even made a third party run?

I may be left to you politically, Stone; but I am anything but a fool or a useful and unwitting tool. I may not always be right in my take on things politically, but I always keep an open mind and have a deep passion for justice and the search for real truth and leaders who serve the people. Instead of one that expect people to serve them.


Toruk Makto

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-22   11:04:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: A K A Stone (#67)

I don't support our attack on Afghanistan. Ron Paul did.

That's because Ron Paul doesn't understand what really happened on 911 or he doesn't have the stones to really go after the TRUTH...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-22   11:05:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: A K A Stone (#67)

However a nuclear Iran is a threat to our country. Any muslim nation that has nukes is a threat to us.

...and pakistan ?


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-22   11:06:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Ferret Mike (#73)

If I am such an Obamabot, why oh why then would I not only prefer to see Ron Paul as POTUS, I would work for him and vote for him if he ran against him in 2012 and got the GOP nod; or even made a third party run?

IN the charitable spirit which is upon me today, I'm going to pretend I didn't see this cycle start over again...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-22   11:08:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: A K A Stone (#72)

You always swore up and down and bragged you hadn't voted since like Buchanan or something. Now you say you would have voted for her

Correct. The election of the Marxist has forced me to change strategy.

Now, stop yelling at me and lets agree on what we agree on and push the rest to the side.

Time is short.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-02-22   11:09:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Rotara (#71)

But you voted for-supported mcCain palinsky, yes ??

Sure did.

McCain/Palin vs Obama/Biden....I saw it to be a wash on the war issue. issue. They would both continue the war. Only difference on social and domestic issues. I saw Palin and McCain as far superior on that front.

My instincts turned out to be right on the war issue. My instincts usually are right. Also turned out to be right on Obamas domestic agenda.

Now you on the other hand. You looked in the mirror and said this is what I want the President to think like. They have to agree with me on everything. And they have to hate Jews. So you sat home on your ass.

If you wouldn't have and voted for Palin. The war would still be going on. But we wouldn't have this new massive debt and acceleration on the social issues.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-22   11:09:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: A K A Stone (#78) (Edited)

want to explain why only izzies, izzie-firsters like you, and their golems like hillary want war with iran?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-22   11:11:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Rotara (#76)

Admittedly I may be too much a pragmatist for my own good, but your point is duly noted and I do appreciate where you are coming from here.


Toruk Makto

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-22   11:12:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Jethro Tull (#77)

Correct. The election of the Marxist has forced me to change strategy.

Now, stop yelling at me and lets agree on what we agree on and pust the rest to the side.

Time is short.

Ok. Fair enough.

If you changed strategy then why can't you admit that Beck is in favor of a lot of the stuff that we have been asking for and wanting? He falls short on the war issue, but neither party is stopping it. He seems passionate and true about his beliefs that he does champion. I can see it in his face and hear it in his voice. And the things that he agrees with me on are many. The dems agree with me on zero.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-22   11:14:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: A K A Stone (#81)

If beck won't call out the 911 conspirators, then he has no value whatsoever and in fact is working for our enemies. Many of which you can't see because you are blind and your pastor ain't helping you I bet...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-22   11:16:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: A K A Stone (#81) (Edited)

However a nuclear Iran is a threat to our country. Any muslim nation that has nukes is a threat to us.

want to answer Rotara's question about pakistan and its nukes?

and maybe you could answer the following: if the mommies' boys in israel are entitled to throw a temper tantrum and kill as many people as possible with their samson option as they go under, is pakistan entitled to do the same thing?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-22   11:17:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Lod, Jethro tull (#46)

Sir Lod...

In my long political life, I have been snookered, slickered, conned, flim flammed and lied to. It goes with the territory.

You might recall, I have stated here many times that in nearly 40 years of back room politics, I met but one honest politician, just one.

The rest were dishonest and or had money, booze, drug and sex problems.

Politics attracts those kind.

We go with what we have, at least Paul got into the starting gate, even if it was backwards.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-02-22   11:19:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: A K A Stone (#81) (Edited)

want to answer Rotara's question about pakistan and its nukes?

...or are you secure in the belief that the "war on terror", which you supposedly oppose, will result in pakistan's nukes being neutralized?

or are you just flat lying through your teeth about opposing these israeli wars fought by their american proxies?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-22   11:19:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Ferret Mike (#80) (Edited)

If I am such an Obamabot, why oh why then would I not only prefer to see Ron Paul as POTUS, I would work for him and vote for him if he ran against him in 2012 and got the GOP nod; or even made a third party run?

We either work with the concepts that created the nation and made it the greatest ever or we try our own way. We've tried 'our own way' (?) in spades now and have the tangible, sickening results.

We have to get back to basics (Constitution, Individual Responsibility, Lawful Taxation and 'currency', minding our own business, ending redistribution and entitlements, etc.) or else we end up supporting the mcCains, obamalamadingdongs, bushies, clintons, et al the puppets that work the matrix.

I'd like to see you understand this while we all have time to work together.

But you have a lot of (even recent) mileage that's pretty rough for many of us to fathom in contrast to posts like this one copied above.

FWIW


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-22   11:21:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: groundresonance (#79)

want to explain why only izzies, izzie-firsters like you, and their golems like hillary want war with iran?

Your a stupid fuck aren't you. I am an American firster. People like you are poison. If someone doesn't hate Israel then they are called an Israeli firster. Sorry buddy but I am an American first second and thirder.

You are also a liar. Where did I say I wanted war with Iran? That would be terrible. The price of Gas would go to 5 dollars overnight. The economy would be fuirhter destroyed.

Here is what I want. The UN burnt to the ground. I want restoration of the constitution. I want NAFTA GATT and other globalist bills repealed. I want our wars ended and our troops brought home. I want us to say fuck the national debt. The children aren't paying for all you dumb mother fuckers that ran up the debt. Guess what the debt is transferred to you assholes voted for it. You and your family can pay it. No one else is going to pay for it. Because guess what from now on congress can only spend FOR THEIR TERM. That is the only power they really ever had anyways. Then all you people who want to murder babies in the womb. Guess what. If you do it again you will be tried for murder and executed. No more murderers will be tolerated. Guess what. Corporations that want to send your jobs overseas. Go ahead. Get the fuck out. But if you want to sell here your going to pay a huge tariff to get it back. WTO..Shut the fuck up we will represend ourselves. China.. You are the fucking enemy. Get the fuck out of our shipyard in California and take your shoddy slave laobr products with you. Change your ways and we may let you sell here again.

Iran. Use your nuclear energy for peacefull purposes. We are watching you very closely.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-22   11:24:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Cynicom (#15)

I am looking for an email addy to ask for my money back.

First time I have ever done that.

If I had sent her any money I would be doing the same. And it would be a first for me also.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-22   11:25:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: A K A Stone (#87) (Edited)

someone doesn't hate Israel then they are called an Israeli firster.

anybody who cant scrounge up guts enough to condemn izzies, izzie-firsters and their supporters cannot be an "american firster", in view of the damage being done to america by these wars instigated by israel and its supporters.

so let's hear a little realism about israel, the izzie-firsters, and their golems, who are driving us into these wars that even you have to admit are damaging america.

otherwise, we're gonna have to conclude you're lying.

simple

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-22   11:28:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: James Deffenbach (#88)

James...

When Beck raised his slimy head I said Medina needed to attack him at once.

She did'nt and we see the result.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-02-22   11:28:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: A K A Stone (#87)

are you finally going to go fight you USNATOrael war mongering tool ?


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-22   11:29:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: A K A Stone (#81)

IMO, with Beck it isn't just one issue. Honestly? I think his ADD is a real drawback to his personal and professional life. His amusement value for me has ended. Had he stayed in teaching mode (impossible; see his ADD) afa the constitution, the Fed, etc. and stopped the damn crying, and references to his alcoholism, he would have made a difference. Like Medina, he damaged himself especially since his speech Saturday at CPAC. It will take months for me to know if I'm right, but I'm thinking his rally on 8/28 will flop as will his events that precede it.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-02-22   11:32:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: A K A Stone (#78)

But you voted for-supported mcCain palinsky, yes ??

Sure did...

voted for Palin.

You're a fucking moran of the highest odor. Ignorant can be fixed, but not stoooooopid...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-22   11:33:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Rotara, Ferret Mike, A K A Stone, Lod, Cynicom, PSUSA, noone222, Jethro Tull, Eric Stratton, Artisan, Esso (#69)

Amen to that. It is a litmus test issue for EVERY politickian everywhere and all the time.

to say i'm disappointed is a vast understatement. 9/11 is a litmus test for me too though, in this case, i could swallow a candidate's disbelief for the state's issues she would bring to the table. yeah, i'm choosing the lesser of 3 evils-- something i swore i'd never do again. well, my vote's been cast and i'm back in the f'ing system.

and what's really chapping my rear end is that Medina thinks i'm despicable. that means she also thinks that the families of the 9/11 victims who are asking questions are despicable too.

christine  posted on  2010-02-22   11:33:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Rotara (#91)

are you finally going to go fight you USNATOrael war mongering tool ?

I haven't said anything new there. My opinion has not changed and is not going to change. It is set in STONE!

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-22   11:33:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: christine (#94)

Check your PM

Cynicom  posted on  2010-02-22   11:35:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: A K A Stone (#95)

My opinion has not changed and is not going to change. It is set in STONE!

Yeah, we know you moran. "Bomb-bomb-bomb, bomb-bomb Iran..."

But you won't go fight with your USNATOrael comrades, will you dough boy ?


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-22   11:36:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Artisan (#0)

Debra Medina agrees that 9/11 truthers' beliefs are 'despicable'

Well if she feels that people who want the truth in regards to the 9/11 attacks are despicable, then what does she think of those who LIE about the 9/11 attacks and conceal the truth, and what does she think of politicians who call the 9/11 victim's families "despicable"?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-02-22   11:37:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: christine (#94)

that means she also thinks that the families of the 9/11 victims who are asking questions are despicable too.

Exactly. Yet few people out there, including Medina apparently, are bright enough to realize that.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-02-22   11:38:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: christine (#94) (Edited)

Some things I just decided I will not compromise on and obviously that is why I don't see, even if there were time (there isn't), a political solution.

Remember where Governors from TX end up eventually...you got 3 losers in the pubbie-wing primary.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-22   11:39:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: christine (#94) (Edited)

to say i'm disappointed is a vast understatement

it helps to think of politicians as golems...

once they've had their brain and spirit transplants, they're not fully human anymore...

...i mean, an AK47 is lethal, but it really isnt the AK's fault, it's just a tool, made by people who need to kill other people...

i spose we could have hoped that medina had enough balls and smarts to maintain herself against beck and the rest of the izzie-first machinery, but i guess not.

too bad

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-22   11:40:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: christine, jethro tul (#94)

and what's really chapping my rear end is that Medina thinks i'm despicable.

If it wasn't for Beck. You would have been less informed about your candidate. You should thank him for opening your eyes. ;)

After all that. I would probably vote for Medina too. If it was just Medina, Perry and who is it Hutchison? I would vote Medina.

So now you like Tull has opened this pandoras box. You have both voted or given money to a lesser of two evil candidates.

I have a prediction. At least one of you votes for the R nominee in 2012. So it is Romney, Palentry(or whatever his name is), Palin, Jeb, Cheney. Who you going to vote for? Or if not who is the lesser evil in your opinion.

I left Ron Paul out because he isn't going to run. Unfortunately he is to old.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-22   11:42:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: FormerLurker (#99)

Exactly. Yet few people out there, including Medina apparently, are bright enough to realize that.

Whether the truthers are right or wrong is not relevant.

They have the RIGHT to question the government any time this wish, on any subject.

To say I am disappointed in Medina is an understatement.

Once again we see that money talks (one way or another) and BS walks. (thats us)

Cynicom  posted on  2010-02-22   11:43:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: A K A Stone (#102)

If it wasn't for Beck. You would have been less informed about your candidate. You should thank him for opening your eyes. ;)

true, eh ?


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-22   11:43:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Rotara (#97)

You have a reading comprehension problem.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-22   11:44:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: A K A Stone (#105)

You have a reading comprehension problem.

No I don't. You're a schizophrenic neocon tool. Therein lies the problem WE have, really...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-22   11:45:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Artisan, ALL (#0)

And according the Ms. Medina, all of THESE people are "despicable" as well...

Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials Question the 9/11 Commission Report


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-02-22   11:46:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: christine (#94)

so the only thing we can do is keep chipping away.

the logic of the situation is becoming so transparent, it's unlikely the gatekeepers will be able to keep this bottled up forever.

the critical thing is peak oil: as the living standard in america deteriorates, people will start trying to figure out what happened, they'll become aware of the neocons' confessed need of a new pearl harbor, they'll see the logic of the ensuing operation, designed to control oil, oil transport routes... designed also to deprive china and india of access to oil.

it's getting too obvious to deny.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-22   11:47:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Cynicom (#103)

To say I am disappointed in Medina is an understatement.

I would say her chances of winning just went down the tubes.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-02-22   11:48:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: christine (#94) (Edited)

so the only thing we can do is keep chipping away.

the logic of the situation is becoming so transparent, it's unlikely the gatekeepers will be able to keep this bottled up forever.

but once a critical mass of americans figures things out, then comes the hard part.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-22   11:48:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: A K A Stone (#102)

If it wasn't for Beck. You would have been less informed about your candidate. You should thank him for opening your eyes. ;)

i have to admit you have a point. ;)

christine  posted on  2010-02-22   11:49:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: All (#53)

I found my notes re: Lusitania sinking and WWI

The Lusitania and World War I

“The same crowd which manipulated the passage of the income tax and the Federal Reserve System wanted America in the war. J. P. Morgan, John D. Rockefeller, "Colonel" House, Jacob Schiff, Paul Warburg and the rest of the Jekyll Island conspirators were all deeply involved in getting us involved. Many of these financiers had loaned England large sums of money. In fact, J. P. Morgan & Co. served as British financial agents in this country during World War I.”

Gary Allen, None Dare Call it Conspiracy

World War I officially began on June 28th, 1914 when members of the Illuminati Black Hand secret society assassinated Archduke Franz Ferdinand. Europe quickly polarized and warred for nearly a year before Americans were given their false flag reason to join. On May 1st, 1915 the British Naval cruiser “Lusitania” was scheduled for Liverpool, taking off from New York harbor loaded with 600 tons of explosives, 6 million pounds of ammunition, 1,248 cases of shrapnel shells, other war materials, and last but not least – American passengers.

 

The German embassy in D.C. was fully aware of the war materials being shipped into England on the Lusitania and tried to warn American travelers.

 

German embassy officials attempted to place full-page ads in 50 U.S. newspapers reading:

“Notice! Travelers intending to embark on the Atlantic voyage are reminded that a state of war exists between Germany and her allies and Great Britain and her allies … travelers sailing in the war zone on ships of Great Britain … do so at their own risk.”

Due to actions taken by the U.S. State Department, 49 of those 50 newspapers never ran the ad.

“The German government took out large ads in all the New York papers warning potential passengers that the ship was carrying munitions and telling them not to cross the Atlantic on it … Yet the sinking of the Lusitania was used by clever propagandists to portray the Germans as inhuman slaughterers of innocents. Submarine warfare was manufactured into a cause célèbre to push us into war."

Gary Allen, “None Dare Call it Conspiracy”

Midday May 7th, off the coast of Ireland, the Lusitania was ordered to reduce speed, and “Juno,” its British military escort vessel, was ordered to withdraw.

Committee of 300, 33rd degree Freemason, and Lord of the Admiralty Winston Churchill knew German U-Boats were in the vicinity and purposely called off Juno, leaving the Lusitania a sitting duck.

“British commander Joseph Kenworthy, on duty when the ship was sunk, later revealed that her military escort was withdrawn at the last minute and her captain ordered to enter at reduced speed an area where a German U-boat was known to be operating. It is clear why Germany attacked this ship, and Britain would have done the same if U.S. munitions were being shipped to Germany. ‘The Germans, whose torpedo struck the liner, were the unwitting accomplices or victims of a plot probably concocted by Winston Churchill,’ concluded author Simpson.”

Jim Marrs, “Rule by Secrecy” (189)

 

“The Lusitania was a ploy. It was packed with some Morgan owned ammunition, had been given over to England as a member of the navy, and despite the warnings of the Germans was sent Into a naval war zone, specifically to be a target the catalyst for America’s entrance to the war …Churchill ordered the Lusitania’s naval escort to return to port, and the fated ship was left unprotected, to be sunk. Rothschild agent Colonel House probably knew of this plot, records point to a discussion of it between him and Sir Edward Grey of England. Historian Colin Simpson called the sinking of the Lusitania the ‘foulest act of willful murder ever committed on the seas.’”

Fritz Springmeier, “Bloodlines of the Illuminati

Churchill’s fellow Committee of 300 member, CFR founder, and Rothschild agent Colonel Mandel House was also President Wilson’s top political advisor. Wilson said,

“Mr. House is my second personality. He is my independent self. His thoughts and mine are one. If I were in his place, I would just do as he suggested.”

This is a man who has also been called the Henry Kissinger of his day. In the book “The Intimate Papers of Colonel House” is a conversation recorded between Colonel House and the Foreign Secretary of England, Sir Edward Grey.

 

Grey asked,

“What will America do if the Germans sink an ocean liner with American passengers on board?” and House answered, “I believe that a flame of indignation would sweep the United States and that by itself would be sufficient to carry us into the war.”

Just as “luck” would have it, that is exactly what happened. Around 1,200 were killed, including 128 Americans.

“This act set off a firestorm of anti-German feeling throughout the United States, fanned by the Rockefeller-Morgan dominated press.”

–Jim Marrs, “Rule by Secrecy” (188)

So Illuminati Morgan owned ammunition was loaded on a ship with American passengers. Committee of 300 and 33rd degree Mason, Winston Churchill, ordered off the ship’s military escort knowing German U-Boats were standing by. Then the Rockefeller-Morgan dominated U.S. press helped stir anti-German sentiment until the people were sufficiently propagated to enter the war.

 

President Woodrow Wilson, like Winston Churchill, the Morgans and Rockefellers, knew of the Lusitania’s preplanned fate, and he knew the decision to sink it was out of his hands.

"There can be no doubt that President Wilson was told of the character of the cargo destined for the Lusitania. He did nothing, but was to concede on the day he was told of her sinking that his foreknowledge had given him many sleepless hours."

Colin Simpson, “The Lusitania”

"Woodrow Wilson was reelected by a hair. He had based his campaign on the slogan: 'He Kept Us Out of War!'. . . Just five months later we were in it. The same crowd which manipulated the passage of the income tax and the Federal Reserve System wanted America in the war. J. P. Morgan, John D. Rockefeller, 'Colonel' House, Jacob Schiff, Paul Warburg and the rest of the Jekyll Island conspirators were all deeply involved."

Gary Allen, “None Dare Call it Conspiracy”

 

 

“World War I was a financial bonanza for the international bankers. But it was a catastrophe of such magnitude for the United States that few even today grasp its importance. The war reversed our traditional foreign policy of noninvolvement and we have been enmeshed almost constantly ever since in perpetual wars for perpetual peace.

 

Winston Churchill once observed that all nations would have been better off had the U.S. minded its own business. Had we done so, he said, ‘peace would have been made with Germany; and there would have been no collapse in Russia leading to Communism; no breakdown of government in Italy followed by Fascism; and Nazism never would have gained ascendancy in Germany.’”

(Social Justice Magazine, July 3, 1939, p. 4.) –Gary Allen, “None Dare Call it Conspiracy”

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Rotara  posted on  2010-02-22   11:50:42 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: A K A Stone (#102) (Edited)

If it wasn't for Beck. You would have been less informed about your candidate. You should thank him for opening your eyes. ;)

i have to admit you have a point. ;)

that's like thanking an assassin for putting you out of your misery.

now debra medina has a hotline just like sarah palin's, direct to bill kristol's desk at the AEI, and debra doesnt have to think anymore.

what a relief that must be.

no wonder she's thankful that beck jumped her.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-22   11:53:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: A K A Stone (#102)

I have a prediction. At least one of you votes for the R nominee in 2012. So it is Romney, Palentry(or whatever his name is), Palin, Jeb, Cheney. Who you going to vote for? Or if not who is the lesser evil in your opinion.

nope. i won't be voting. i shouldn't fret as my vote for Medina almost assuredly went unaccounted anyway.

christine  posted on  2010-02-22   11:54:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: groundresonance (#110)

but once a critical mass of americans figures things out, then comes the hard part.

yes. i just hope i'm prepared enough to survive it.

christine  posted on  2010-02-22   11:56:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: groundresonance (#113)

that's like thanking an assassin for putting you out of your misery.

that made me laugh

christine  posted on  2010-02-22   11:57:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: groundresonance (#110)

but once a critical mass of americans figures things out

How long shall we hold our breath awaiting critical mass? The dumbing down of the masses is working against the critical mass theory, IMHO.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-22   11:58:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: christine (#115)

i just hope i'm prepared enough to survive it.

that's where us codgers have the advantage.

we'll croak anyhow, before the worst gets here.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-22   11:59:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: abraxas (#117)

working against the critical mass theory

ever heard of the internet?

Results 1 - 10 of about 496,000 for PNAC "new pearl harbor".

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-22   12:00:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: abraxas (#117) (Edited)

working against the critical mass theory,

...not to mention the fact that the holyhoax is wearing pretty thin at the edges, and the hive queens are gonna need a replacement pretty soon.

Results 1 - 10 of about 170,000 for auschwitz revised numbers.

Results 1 - 10 of about 46,100 for treblinka radar no graves

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-22   12:03:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: abraxas (#117) (Edited)

so i guess the solution lies in censoring the dogpoop out of the internet, doesnt it?

then we've arrived at such an obvious situation that anyone who's been a potential member of the "critical mass" will become a full-fledged member at the stroke of a pen.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-22   12:07:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: groundresonance (#119)

ever heard of the internet?

Sure, but I don't hear of too many Americans using it as a research resource. Number one use--porn. Number two use--social networking.

It is the very small minority that use the Internet to further educate themselves......sad but true, groundresonance.

We've had a decade of Internet.....do you believe we are closer to critical mass? If so, what evidence can you provide to substantiate this belief?

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-22   12:07:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: groundresonance (#121)

so i guess the solution lies in censoring the dogpoop out of the internet, doesnt it?

Censoring is not a solution. Critical thinking is.....but I don't have a game plan to get the masses interested in it. There is much information at their fingertips, what is lacking is interest.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-22   12:09:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: abraxas (#122)

It is the very small minority that use the Internet to further educate themselves

we're getting closer to critical mass with every person who loses his job, and thus has time to get bored with porn and facebook, and finally becomes bored enough to try to figure out what the fuck happened to him.

the critical mass for staging a replacement for the holyhoax persecution myth... well, that's tough, but it will come from the top, and wont need a critical mass of citizens.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-22   12:11:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: abraxas (#123) (Edited)

Censoring is not a solution.

why do countries censor their internet?

as america descends into totalitarianism, you expect america to be exempt from the tactics used by other police states?

the situation in israel is deteriorating, predictably, seeing as how it was such a bad idea in the first place...

...and the israelis are becoming such shitheads that awareness is leaking out into the mass consciousness.

and it doesnt take a rhodes scholar to figure out how far under israel's thumb the america political system and media are.

take all that, and combine it with the logic of 9/11 and the "war on terror", and we're right back to the hard part.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-22   12:15:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: abraxas (#123)

there's got to be factions of radical jews arguing about the war with iran, thinking about all these things we've been talking about.

they can start their war, gas will go up to $7 or $8 bucks a gallon, the economic crash will accelerate... then what?

shut down the internet? ...declare martial law?

or just forget about the iran war, write israel off, and gas up the gulfstream as you suck the last nickel out of wall street?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-22   12:22:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: abraxas (#123)

the sheeple are starting to see the writing on the wall - and it's a Globalist menu with duh sheeple's names on it. the 'shall eat' list...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-22   12:32:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: All, Morgans, Rockefellers, Houses, Schiffs, Warburgs and of course Rothchilds (#112)

"Woodrow Wilson was reelected by a hair. He had based his campaign on the slogan: 'He Kept Us Out of War!'. . . Just five months later we were in it. The same crowd which manipulated the passage of the income tax and the Federal Reserve System wanted America in the war. J. P. Morgan, John D. Rockefeller, 'Colonel' House, Jacob Schiff, Paul Warburg and the rest of the Jekyll Island conspirators were all deeply involved."

Gary Allen, “None Dare Call it Conspiracy”

Had enough of these people yet ?


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-22   12:35:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: groundresonance (#126)

or just forget about the iran war, write israel off, and gas up the gulfstream as you suck the last nickel out of wall street?

You must remember the goal........to destroy the US Constitution and bring in a New World Order. Anything that promotes this agenda, including war with Iran or even World War III is on the table.

The PTB don't give a rats ass about the price of gas or the US economy. Weaken the economy and the people, who have grown accustomed to Big Brother holding their hand and taking care of them, will throw away their own liberties for temporary security.

The destruction of this economy has been going full speed ahead for since Nixon scappred the gold standard. This isn't a coincidence.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-22   12:43:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: abraxas (#129) (Edited)

The destruction of this economy has been going full speed ahead for since Nixon scappred the gold standard. This isn't a coincidence.

i spose you think it's a coincidence that american oil production peaked in 1970 and nixon dumped the gold standard in 1971.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-22   12:50:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: groundresonance (#130)

i spose you think it's a coincidence

lol.......I don't believe in government coincidences, groundresonance. Do you?

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-22   12:53:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: abraxas (#131) (Edited)

i believe in coincidences if they dont happen too often, and dont consistently favor one agenda or another.

the fact remains: after american oil production peaked, we went off the gold standard, which meant, more-or-less, that we could print enough money to buy oil...

we could build a big enough military to grab oil at gunpoint, or loot as america descended into the third world.

the long term implications, though, were not so pretty good, seeing as how it takes a huge, thriving economy and lots of oil to support that economy, and that economy is, in turn, needed to support the military.

and what it boils down to, is this: these big players had 30 years before 9/11 to plan their endgame... and now the big controversy is this: how crazy are the israelis?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-22   13:00:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: abraxas (#131) (Edited)

in the best of all global looter worlds, jewish division, israel would suffer a false flag nuke attack from exxon or lord-knows-who, which would touch off a big nuke exchange that would kill the five million jews in israel.

israel would be the victim, of course ...five million dead.

...but only five million, not enough to fulfill the legend, but maybe you could string up another million jews in america to make up the six million.

whatever... it might be that enough of the mass media would survive that you wouldnt have to kill six million... after all, it's not as if we dont have a precedent for that.

anyhow, there's your new persecution myth, which would generate sympathy for refugee jews, who just happened to arrive in paraguay with gulfstream stuffed to the gills with gold... which would likely generate even more sympathy.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-22   13:07:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: abraxas (#131) (Edited)

we're getting off into science fiction now... but... how crazy are the israelis? ...are israeli leaders true believers, or are they just going through the motions until the final act and the final big payoff?

who knows?

we can hope that the global leadership, especially big jewish money people, are vain enough to think of their own hides, and the risks they run if they stir up a global nuke war.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-22   13:12:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: Artisan (#0)

Debra Medina never should have come near Mark Davis's show, he's a neocon whore of the lowest order.

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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2010-02-22   14:42:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: christine (#94)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-22   16:46:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: christine, Eric Stratton, Artisan (#94)

and what's really chapping my rear end is that Medina thinks i'm despicable. that means she also thinks that the families of the 9/11 victims who are asking questions are despicable too.

She has a warped view on what is despicable. Perhaps someone will show her a dictionary definition?

Someone should ask this bitch which is despicable: 1) those that have grown weary of .gov lies and want to know what happened on 9/11 through an honest and thorough investigation, or 2) Those that start wars based on known lies.

This political whore has stars in her eyes and cannot imagine her hero, the government, would ever do anything to harm its own citizens. Just based on this, she is too stupid to live.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-02-22   17:43:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: All (#112)

“World War I was a financial bonanza for the international bankers. But it was a catastrophe of such magnitude for the United States that few even today grasp its importance. The war reversed our traditional foreign policy of noninvolvement and we have been enmeshed almost constantly ever since in perpetual wars for perpetual peace.

Winston Churchill once observed that all nations would have been better off had the U.S. minded its own business. Had we done so, he said, ‘peace would have been made with Germany; and there would have been no collapse in Russia leading to Communism; no breakdown of government in Italy followed by Fascism; and Nazism never would have gained ascendancy in Germany.’”

(Social Justice Magazine, July 3, 1939, p. 4.) –Gary Allen, “None Dare Call it Conspiracy”


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-22   17:53:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: PSUSA, christine, Eric Stratton, Artisan (#137)

and what's really chapping my rear end is that Medina thinks i'm despicable. that means she also thinks that the families of the 9/11 victims who are asking questions are despicable too.

Patriots shouldn't be so thin skinned. If you listen to the interview, Davis is putting words into Medina's mouth.

I think she should have been better prepared for the interview so that she could have better answered the questions or better handled truther accusations.

A truther doesn't have to believe the govt did it !!! A truther simply has the opinion that the govt. didn't tell us the truth.

Medina wants to govern "constitutionally", supports the 2nd Amendment right to carry, opposes the trans-Texas corridor, and wants to remove property taxes inlieu of a sales type of tax. These issues are critical to Texans, and to the nation.

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-22   17:57:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: PSUSA (#137)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-22   18:04:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: noone222 (#139)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-22   18:06:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: noone222 (#139)

If you listen to the interview, Davis is putting words into Medina's mouth.

OK lets say you are right.

How weak does one have to be to let someone manipulate her like that?

Now tell me how easy it will be for someone with real power to lead this sow around by her nose.

Dont tell me what she wants to do. She isn't strong enough. You proved that. She will sell out your 2A and other rights in a heartbeat. Because she is so weak she can't hold her own in a conversation with a fucking neocon. Shit! THat should be like shooting fish in a barrel!


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-02-22   18:13:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: PSUSA (#142)

Now tell me how easy it will be for someone with real power to lead this sow around by her nose.

The difference between her and the others is that they are experienced and proven globalists that need no one to lead them.

She wants to be elected and has made her case well in the debates. What she actually does after being elected, if that were to occur, is speculation.

I wasn't happy at all with her performance on either radio interview.

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-22   18:23:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: randge, IRTorqued, Deasy (#0)

would like to get your comments...

christine  posted on  2010-02-22   18:23:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: Eric Stratton (#141)

These fucking morons simply let others dictate the discussion which has me fed up to my eyeballs.

The radio "pros" have control of the microphone and the introduction of the guest. They control the initial stages of the conversation and they're good at it.

That's not to say you're wrong. You're not, you're right. Relative rookies are going to make rookie errors and be a little intimidated. That's not to say that these people won't settle into their job and take the reins.

Beck's been a radio jock for 30 years ... and he's an asshole.

Beck is a foul four letter word !

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-22   18:50:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: noone222 (#143)

She wants to be elected and has made her case well in the debates.

No one wants to be linked to DC. She can make her case by telling pissed off people what they want to hear, just like the other parasites do.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-02-22   19:37:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: PSUSA (#146)

No one wants to be linked to DC. She can make her case by telling pissed off people what they want to hear, just like the other parasites do.

DEBRA MEDINA Early life and business:

Medina was born in Beeville in Bee County in south Texas. She was raised on a farm. She graduated as a registered nurse from Baptist Memorial Hospital System School of Nursing (now Baptist Health System) in San Antonio in 1984. She earned her business degree in 1995 from LeTourneau University in Longview, Texas. In 2002 she founded and managed Prudentia Inc., a medical billing company based in Wharton, Texas.[3]

Political involvement:

Medina got involved in politics in the 1990s and served as the Republican Party county chairman of Wharton County. She was a high-level volunteer for Ron Paul’s 2008 presidential campaign, and served as Interim State Coordinator for the Campaign for Liberty. At the 2008 Republican Party of Texas state convention in Houston, TX, she lost her bid for state GOP vice chairwoman. In 2008, she decided to run for governor.[4]

Prior to the 2008 Republican Party of Texas state convention, Medina sued the party to ensure that the convention would be held in accordance with the Texas Election Code.[5] The case was originally dismissed on an issue of jurisdiction, but the party demanded $14,000 for attorney fees. Medina appealed the case to the 1st Court of Appeals. In January 2010, she won her appeal when the appeals court ruled that the award was improper and dismissed the case.[6]

In December 2009, Medina filed on the Republican ballot for the 2010 Texas gubernatorial race.[7]

Personal life:

Medina grew up on a farm near Beeville, TX. She has three siblings. Her father worked at the telephone company, and her mother was a stay-at-home mom.

Debra met Noe Medina the year she graduated from high school. They married two years later, in 1982.

She and her husband have two grown children, who they home-schooled — Jacob Medina, 20, a student at Texas A&M, and Janise Cookston, 25, an interior designer in Houston.[8]

Political beliefs:

Medina is an advocate for limited government and the restoration of state sovereignty.[9] She has proposed deploying the Texas National Guard along the Texas-Mexico border to help prevent illegal immigration.[10]

She is pro-life [11] and supports gun rights and the elimination of property taxes.[12]

PSUSA, do you have a chip on your shoulder ?

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-22   19:58:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: christine, randge, IRTorqued, Dakmar, Vita Contemplativa (#144)

Deasy  posted on  2010-02-22   20:39:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: Artisan (#0)

Questioned by Dallas talk show host Mark Davis last week, Medina had stronger and more derisive views of 9/11 truthers, agreeing with the host that anyone who dare would believe that the U.S. government was involved in the 2001 attack is "despicable'.

Now that is freaking funny!

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-22   20:43:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: Eric Stratton (#24)

And again, if the 9/11 truth ..., I was going to say "comes out," but it is out, but if it catches fire, and the truth actually becomes widely believed, this Government is finished.

9/11 "truth" is nothing but a pile of ashes.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-22   20:45:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: Deasy, christine (#148)

Hell with all that, write in Woody Harrelson! :)

In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.

Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.

Dakmar  posted on  2010-02-22   20:47:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: Ferret Mike (#57)

9-11 was an inside job, and until the truth is freely known and the criminals caught, prosecuted and hung there is no freedom in the United States.

Gee, it's been 9 years. Why isn't the "truth" freely known yet?

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-22   20:51:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: Mister Clean (#152)

You again? What the hell, did David Horowitz rent you a room here?

In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.

Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.

Dakmar  posted on  2010-02-22   20:55:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: noone222 (#139)

Patriots shouldn't be so thin skinned.

9/11 "truthers" shouldn't be so thin skinned either.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-22   20:56:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: Dakmar (#153)

You again? What the hell, did David Horowitz rent you a room here?

What's taking the 9/11 "truth" movement so long to get anywhere?

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-22   20:57:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: Eric Stratton (#141)

How about talking specifics such as WT7 and then asking the interviewer if they don't think that's odd. If they say "no," then they come across as a moron themselves and lose credibility.

yes! but then we're assuming they know about WTC 7 themselves.

christine  posted on  2010-02-22   20:58:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: Mister Clean (#155)

i'm really getting sick of you.

christine  posted on  2010-02-22   20:59:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: Mister Clean (#155)

What's taking the 9/11 "truth" movement so long to get anywhere?

Dunno, let's hear your best Truther March in C minor.

In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.

Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.

Dakmar  posted on  2010-02-22   20:59:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: christine (#157)

Mostly he is amusing. He is so obviously on someone's payroll that he is a gauge of the fact that the PTB are still afraid of their exposure on the 911 PsyOp.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-02-22   21:00:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: christine, Mister Clean (#157)

i'm really getting sick of you.

He reminds me of the faith healer ladies on channel 98.

It's your site, of course. :)

In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.

Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.

Dakmar  posted on  2010-02-22   21:01:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: christine (#157)

i'm really getting sick of you.

Because you know I'm right that the 9/11 "truth" movement has gone nowhere and done nothing.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-22   21:03:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: Original_Intent (#159)

Mostly he is amusing. He is so obviously on someone's payroll that he is a gauge of the fact that the PTB are still afraid of their exposure on the 911 PsyOp.

Exposure? You people have been "exposing" it for YEARS!

Nobody is buying it.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-22   21:04:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: Mister Clean (#161) (Edited)

Tear each others lives apart you and I
Lets go dancing, got to go dancing in the streets with knives

Oh and you want to know
How feels to cut my soul
You and I were made to fight
A deadly disco dance with knives!
">

for once in my life....

In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.

Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.

Dakmar  posted on  2010-02-22   21:07:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: Dakmar, Meester Kleen (#158)

C Minor? Many of the great symphonies, or most, were written in C Major. It is more euphonious. Of course, when I think about it, in Kleen's case a minor key does seem appropriate.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-02-22   21:07:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: Mister Clean (#162) (Edited)

Nobody is buying it.

lots of shoppers, though.

Results 1 - 10 of about 519,000 for neocons "new pearl harbor".

Results 1 - 10 of about 497,000 for PNAC "new pearl harbor".

when i first started keeping track of this stuff ---in the early days after 9/11, while there was still hope that the machine could keep the knowledge bottled up--- the number of hits for PNAC "new pearl harbor" fluctuated between 20k and 40k hits.

now we're up to half a million.

*shrug*

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-22   21:10:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: Mister Clean (#162) (Edited)

Mostly he is amusing. He is so obviously on someone's payroll that he is a gauge of the fact that the PTB are still afraid of their exposure on the 911 PsyOp.

Exposure? You people have been "exposing" it for YEARS!

Nobody is buying it.

Since the investigation, enforcement, and mass communications are under the Perp's control it is a little unrealistic to expect them to expose and prosecute themselves.

But then you know that - your function is simply to divert from that fact - among others.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-02-22   21:11:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: Dakmar (#163)

Click Me

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-02-22   21:13:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: Original_Intent (#166)

Since the investigation, inforcement, and mass communications are under the Perp's control it is a little unrealistic to expect them to expose and prosecute themselves.

There are dozens if not hundreds of 9/11 "truth" websites. There are numerous videos about 9/11 "truth" online. Alex Jones' sites are among those with the highest traffic. "Loose Change" was a huge hit on the Internet. Spare me the crap about the "perps" having control over "mass communications," it's an absurd claim.

The "truth" movement had it's chance and it's now over.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-22   21:14:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: Original_Intent, Mister Clean (#166)

For once in my life,
I've snared a fool that keeps on fighting
For once...in my life, I see a toothless kike
insists on biting...

In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.

Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.

Dakmar  posted on  2010-02-22   21:16:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: Mister Clean (#168)

Since the investigation, inforcement, and mass communications are under the Perp's control it is a little unrealistic to expect them to expose and prosecute themselves.

There are dozens if not hundreds of 9/11 "truth" websites. There are numerous videos about 9/11 "truth" online. Alex Jones' sites are among those with the highest traffic. "Loose Change" was a huge hit on the Internet. Spare me the crap about the "perps" having control over "mass communications," it's an absurd claim.

The "truth" movement had it's chance and it's now over.

Yes and among those who use the internet for news and information I would guess that you would find a plurality if not a heavy majority who accept that what has been said by the Feral Government about 911 can be summed up in one word: Preposterous.

However, as I pointed out the Major Broadcast Media and Controlled Noozepapers have maintained a nearly uniform blockade on the hundreds of contradictions between the evidence and the Official Fairy Tale.

You know that, and I know that, and you are simply, again, trying to obscure the point.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-02-22   21:23:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: Mister Clean (#161)

uhhhhhh...no. it's because i can't stand government tools which is what you are.

christine  posted on  2010-02-22   21:23:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: Mister Clean (#162) (Edited)

Nobody is buying it.

poor guy loses his job, his house... has to sell the boat, the snowmobile, the 4-wheeler.

cant afford little jaunts to the bahamas... all he can afford is a cheap internet connection and a walmart laptop, and now he's getting scabs on his weenie from jerking off so much.

what to do... what to do...

bored to tears, he stumbles onto a 9/11 truth site, digs a little, and he submerges for a couple weeks... nobody sees him.

guess what's happened to him by the time he surfaces?

i have to grant you that you guys have done a fine job planting confusing, conflicting, and completely loopy alternative theories, but none of them come close to tearing down the basic logic of the situation, which is the following:

israel is a shit idea, has been from day one, israel's protector is collapsing from high oil prices and looters, and it's game over unless you get your oil acqisition project underway, and the way you got it started was to stage a "catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbor".

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-22   21:24:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: Original_Intent (#170)

Yes and among those who use the internet for news and information I would guess that you would find a plurality if not a heavy majority who accept that what has been said by the Feral Government about 911 can be summed up in one word: Preposterous.

However, as I pointed out the Major Broadcast Media and Controlled Noozepapers have maintained a nearly uniform blockade on the hundreds of contradictions between the evidence and the Official Fairy Tale.

Excuses are for the weak but I understand why you need to make them.

The 9/11 "truth" movement is a failure. Just like that loser Joe Stack blamed the government for his failures, you blame the government for the failures of the "truth" movement.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-22   21:25:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: Jethro Tull (#167)

Click Me

Bloody hell,

click ME, mate!

In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.

Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.

Dakmar  posted on  2010-02-22   21:26:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: Mister Clean, Dakmar (#155)

What's taking the 9/11 "truth" movement so long to get anywhere?

Couldn't have anything to do with lack of coverage by the MSM.......

With such complete incompetence, this nation should have scrapped all those useless intelligence agencies 9 years ago. Of course ol' MC has no problem with incompetence within the goobermint........only people who question it.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-22   21:28:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: Mister Clean (#173)

Excuses are for the weak but I understand why you need to make them.

You must be very weak Mister Clean because you continue to make excuses for a complete failure by the federal government.

Most protected airspace on the planet just happens to get hit......but there's nothing to see here Looky Lou. NORAD......forget about it. Wargames....do't mention them. Ignore the fact that the hole is much smaller than the wing span. Speaking of wings.....what the hell happened to them?

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-22   21:31:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: Mister Clean (#173) (Edited)

The 9/11 "truth" movement is a failure.

i have to admit progress is slow, but considering the resources you guys have, and the effort you've put into stifling knowledge of your agenda, it's not so surprising that the progress is so slow.

so it's taken truthers nine years to build awareness from say, 20,000 hits on PNAC "new pearl harbor" to half a million hits.

you can speculate about the number of hits on each of those websites, page views and all that stuff, and you can speculate about google itself, whose president seems to be a big fan of israel... maybe google's returns are biased.

meanwhile, we're making progress...slow but sure.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-22   21:32:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: Dakmar (#174)

Rack 'em up

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-02-22   21:32:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: Mister Clean (#173)

The 9/11 "truth" movement is a failure. Just like that loser Joe Stack blamed the government for his failures, you blame the government for the failures of the "truth" movement.

You are such a delightful bizzaro replicant of intelligent thought.

At no point do you submit or offer any information to support your "point".

You deal only in insults, disinformation, and psychological manipulation to attempt to kill morale among those who oppose the evil you support.

Name the 2, or at most 3, other posters that frequent this site who agree with your preposterous anal-ysis. Your position represents a very very very small percentage of the thinking and aware people who frequent here. They, unlike you, actually are aware of the evidence.

Tsunamis build from what, in the open ocean, looks little more than a ripple and yet when they come to ground are towering and unstoppable walls of Neptune's might.

In the end the evil you represent and support will lose - one way or another, and it will not be long now. The dyke is already leaking and you are running out of fingers.

Of course all of us here would like to give you a finger. Just to help of course.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-02-22   21:35:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: abraxas (#175)

Couldn't have anything to do with lack of coverage by the MSM.......

It has everything to do with the fact that conspiracy theories have limited appeal.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-22   21:35:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: abraxas (#176)

Most protected airspace on the planet just happens to get hit......but there's nothing to see here Looky Lou. NORAD......forget about it. Wargames....do't mention them. Ignore the fact that the hole is much smaller than the wing span. Speaking of wings.....what the hell happened to them?

Ask a "truther."

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-22   21:36:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: Mister Clean (#180)

Bovine excrement.........just ask Jessie Ventura. He has lots of people tuning into his conspiracy theory show and the appeal doesn't seem to be limited at all.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-22   21:37:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: Original_Intent (#179)

In the end the evil you represent and support will lose - one way or another, and it will not be long now. The dyke is already leaking and you are running out of fingers.

If you think 9/11 "truth" is on the brink of wide acceptance you are in for a huge disappointment.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-22   21:37:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: noone222 (#147)

PSUSA, do you have a chip on your shoulder ?

She is a republipuke. Enough said.

She is pro-life [11] and supports gun rights and the elimination of property taxes.[12]

Standard republipuke BS. Pro life? Her party has murdered millions. Gun rights? I dont give a fuck if she supports gun rights. My rights do not depend on her or any other parasite with delusions of grandeur. The day I let some cunt like this fight for me is the day I just give up and die.


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Alex Jones is the Robert Tilton of the conspiracy world. ~Mister Clean

Live free or die kill ~~ Me

PSUSA  posted on  2010-02-22   21:37:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: Jethro Tull (#178)

Dropkick Murphy?

LOL Tull, I feel like Harold, where's them hamburgers?

In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.

Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.

Dakmar  posted on  2010-02-22   21:38:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: Mister Clean (#181)

Gee, I read the Omission Report cover to cover.......why didn't it cover any of these basic questions?

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-22   21:38:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: Mister Clean, A KA Stone, Mudboy Slim (#183)

If you think 9/11 "truth" is on the brink of wide acceptance you are in for a huge disappointment.

Sweet, that's my new tagline.

In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.

Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.

Dakmar  posted on  2010-02-22   21:40:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: Mister Clean (#183)

In the end the evil you represent and support will lose - one way or another, and it will not be long now. The dyke is already leaking and you are running out of fingers.

If you think 9/11 "truth" is on the brink of wide acceptance you are in for a huge disappointment.

Attaboy! Sling that PsyOps.

Work on breaking down morale and resolve.

Ain't gonna happen. Too many people know, and are suitably outraged that filth, such as yourself, in our government would condone such a vile crime.

How come Osama's FBI Top Ten Most Wanted listing doesn't list 911 as one of his crimes?

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-02-22   21:41:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#189. To: abraxas (#182)

Bovine excrement.........just ask Jessie Ventura. He has lots of people tuning into his conspiracy theory show and the appeal doesn't seem to be limited at all.

But that dang MSM just keeps blocking it from the people. What a shame.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-22   21:44:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#190. To: Original_Intent (#188)

How come Osama's FBI Top Ten Most Wanted listing doesn't list 911 as one of his crimes?

Because it drives you people nuts.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-22   21:45:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#191. To: Mister Clean (#190)

bye bye


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Alex Jones is the Robert Tilton of the conspiracy world. ~Mister Clean

Live free or die kill ~~ Me

PSUSA  posted on  2010-02-22   21:46:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#192. To: Mister Clean (#183) (Edited)

If you think 9/11 "truth" is on the brink of wide acceptance you are in for a huge disappointment.

in the very long run, say 500 years, 9/11 is not gonna be that important, because the forces driving this situation are geological.

in the meantime, the most productive thing for you to do is: save your skin while either looting or protecting israel.

maybe you can loot and send the loot to israel... whatever.

it's just too damn bad that the whole 9/11 caper, including the "war on terror" is as bad an idea as israel was, which accounts for the really big dogs' emphasis on looting once it became obvious that the oil acquisition project was a failure.

and the really smart guys, from day one of the project, probably saw PNAC as nothing more than an opportunity to start more wars, which would enhance the opportunities to loot as america disintegrated.

and of course, america will disintegrate no matter what, because the problem is geological.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-22   21:46:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#193. To: Mister Clean (#190)

Because it drives you people nuts.

Obviously. Crazy bastards...

"If you think 9/11 "truth" is on the brink of wide acceptance you are in for a huge disappointment." - Mister Clean 02/22/10

Dakmar  posted on  2010-02-22   21:47:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#194. To: Mister Clean, abraxas (#189)

However, the MSM's credibility is plummeting - along with their advertising revenue. Just look at the scandals in the last year - even the illustrious New York Times got caught padding their circulation to charge higher rates. "Tee Bee" Nooze is speaking to an ever dwindling audience.

People will only stand be lied to for so long and then they tune out.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-02-22   21:47:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#195. To: Mister Clean (#189)

But that dang MSM just keeps blocking it from the people. What a shame.

Oh my, 9 years later and America airs it's first show about 911. One show......nine years.

Wonder why more people aren't aware of building 7 imploding when no plane hit it. Gee, it's just everyday that sky scrapers fall for no good reason at all. Right, Mister Clean? Nothing to see hear Looky Lou........

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-22   21:52:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#196. To: Original_Intent (#188)

If you think 9/11 "truth" is on the brink of wide acceptance you are in for a huge disappointment.

Attaboy! Sling that PsyOps.

Cripes, 84% isn't wide acceptance? Where does "wide acceptance" start, 99.999995%?

The only consensus greater than 84% I've ever seen in this country is the poll that says 86% of the country say the government in this country is fucked.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2010-02-22   21:53:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#197. To: Esso (#196)

Admit it, you enjoy being not the sort of people our governors want, don't you?

"If you think 9/11 "truth" is on the brink of wide acceptance you are in for a huge disappointment" - Misrer Clean 02/22/10

Dakmar  posted on  2010-02-22   21:56:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#198. To: Esso (#196)

Where does "wide acceptance" start, 99.999995%?

lol......no, no, Esso. It starts at 99.9999965. : )

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-22   21:56:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#199. To: Mister Clean (#190) (Edited)

the thing you really have to worry about is the damage being done to judaism and jewishness.

israel and israeli americans are the driving forces behind this operation, and it could be that they're being set up as scapegoats for the disintegration of america... disintegration that's inevitable due to geology.

when you got mommies' boys like perle, kristol, ledeen, netanyahu and the rest of these crybabies leading us into this situation, and then read about israel's suicide option, in which they intend to nuke as many people as possible as they go under... well, you got to wonder about these guys' sanity... are they willingly setting themselves up to be scapegoats, or are they being used?

are they bluffing about their samson option, one of the most immoral concepts of war ever to come down the pike? who knows.

in the meantime, though, israel's and israeli americans' behavior is tearing the jewish community to pieces, which, i spose, is in keeping with time-honored standards of jewish behavior, as little jews stay behind and take it in the shorts as the hive queens get away with the loot.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-22   21:56:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#200. To: abraxas (#195)

Oh my, 9 years later and America airs it's first show about 911. One show......nine years.

It's like the only way for 9/11 "truth" to gain legitimacy is for the MSM to grant it.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-22   21:58:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#201. To: Mister Clean (#200)

It's like the only way for 9/11 "truth" to gain legitimacy is for the MSM to grant it.

and seeing as how the main media is controlled by zionists, there's not much chance of that...

...which probably has a lot to do with the main media's decline.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-22   22:01:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#202. To: Mister Clean (#200)

It's like the only way for 9/11 "truth" to gain legitimacy is for the MSM to grant it.

Uh-huh, and I can make you go all silent by just blinking, and you know it. Go ahead, brother, rage about it. Shed a tear.

"If you think 9/11 "truth" is on the brink of wide acceptance you are in for a huge disappointment" - Mister Clean 02/22/10

Dakmar  posted on  2010-02-22   22:04:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#203. To: Mister Clean (#200)

It's like the only way for 9/11 "truth" to gain legitimacy is for the MSM to grant it.

Only in your small mind, Mister Clean. Plenty of other people read books on the matter and have found plenty of legitimacy within that library. Many actually read peer reviewed scientific analysis on the matter. Oh, and some actually read analysis of high level military brass. So much to read. So much to learn.

You might try reading a book or a scholarly paper sometime......of course, ignorance would no longer be a valid excuse for your goobermint boot licking day in and day out.

Actually, it is quite evident that you have a legitimacy problem Mister Clean. If you actually had any facts, you wouldn't have to divert to insults or diversions or irrelevant beat the messenger tactics.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-22   22:09:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#204. To: christine (#156)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-22   22:23:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#205. To: christine (#157)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-22   22:23:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#206. To: abraxas, All (#176)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-22   22:24:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#207. To: Eric Stratton (#206)

Why do you guys contend with Mr. Queen?

he's a useful idiot

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-22   22:26:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#208. To: Eric Stratton (#206)

If everyone put him on bozo he'd be arguing with himself.

I can't bozo.....it goes against my love of free speech for all.

Still, I digress, knowing that I could stop feeding trolls. lol

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-22   22:27:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#209. To: Eric Stratton (#206)

Why do you guys contend with Mr. Queen?

If everyone put him on bozo he'd be arguing with himself.

What can I say, I like watching him twitch.

"If you think 9/11 "truth" is on the brink of wide acceptance you are in for a huge disappointment" - Mister Clean 02/22/10

Dakmar  posted on  2010-02-22   22:32:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#210. To: abraxas (#208)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-22   22:40:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#211. To: Dakmar (#209)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-22   22:40:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#212. To: Eric Stratton (#210)

Free speech for Mr. Queen does not entail a captive audience by you.

lol......I'm not captive, Eric. However, this is a forum to discuss matters and I welcome all discussions, even with folks I disagree with.

In most buildings I'm not there to chat about issues or discuss matters, so I wouldn't feel obligated to listen. If I did go to a building for that purpose, then I would feel obligated to listen. : )

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-22   22:53:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#213. To: Eric Stratton (#211)

Pulsate or gyrate is more like it.

LOL, no, watch his knees! :)

"If you think 9/11 "truth" is on the brink of wide acceptance you are in for a huge disappointment" - Mister Clean 02/22/10

Dakmar  posted on  2010-02-22   22:56:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#214. To: abraxas (#212)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-22   23:04:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#215. To: abraxas (#203)

Only in your small mind, Mister Clean. Plenty of other people read books on the matter and have found plenty of legitimacy within that library. Many actually read peer reviewed scientific analysis on the matter. Oh, and some actually read analysis of high level military brass. So much to read. So much to learn.

If that's the case why do you whine about the lack of 9/11 "truth" coverage in the media?

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-23   7:26:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#216. To: Mister Clean (#215)

If that's the case why do you whine about the lack of 9/11 "truth" coverage in the media?

How many 9/11 facts have been revealed in the media, versus 9/11 lies?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-02-23   7:32:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#217. To: Original_Intent (#179)

"In the end the evil you represent and support will lose - one way or another, and it will not be long now. The dyke is already leaking and you are running out of fingers. Of course all of us here would like to give you a finger."

Whatchu jabberin' on about now, O_I?! LOL...so tell me truthfully, do you believe Dubyuh KNEW about the impending 9/11/01 attacks prior to them taking place, chose to do nothing, and thereby condemned 3,000 innocent Americans to their untimely deaths?

Regards...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-23   7:33:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#218. To: Original_Intent, christine, Mr. Clean (#159)

"[Mr. Clean] is so obviously on someone's payroll that he is a gauge of the fact that the PTB are still afraid of their exposure on the 911 PsyOp."

BWAHAHAHAHA...so now MC's very existence and demeanor as a poster is yer latest, greatest evidence that the 9/11 Truthers ain't NUTZ?!

ROFLMAO...yer killin' me, O_I...you oughtta do stand-up, dude...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-23   7:38:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#219. To: FormerLurker (#216)

How many 9/11 facts have been revealed in the media, versus 9/11 lies?

This is what I hear from the "truther" crowd:

1. The media is controlled by the government/elite/NWO and can't be trusted

2. The media is deliberately hiding 9/11 "truth" from the public

3. If 9/11 "truth" were taken seriously by the media, more people would wake up

Well, if all that is true, then 9/11 "truth" is definitely never going anywhere. If 9/11 "truth" requires MSM exposure to push it over the top it's never gonna happen.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-23   7:39:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#220. To: abraxas (#203)

Plenty of other people read books on the matter

As I have told people before, "They hide information in those and on the internet."  >(;^{)

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-23   8:03:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#221. To: Mudboy Slim (#217)

Mud let me ask you a serious question. Don't you think it is odd that they took the scenic route over Ohio and didn't go directly to the targets. They seemed pretty sure of themselves not being intercepted to fly around for almost 2 hours.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-02-23   8:05:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#222. To: Mudboy Slim (#218)

You are our stand-up comic, Slim. Nine Eleven was an inside job.


Toruk Makto

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-23   9:44:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#223. To: Mister Clean (#215)

If that's the case why do you whine about the lack of 9/11 "truth" coverage in the media?

lol.....whine? I merely offered a plausable explanation as to why so many people don't even know that building 7 fell, along with a few other salient questions. Questions that you avoid, dance around and divert to meaningless drivel like this whine accusation.

Then you claimed people weren't interested in consipiracy theories. I responded that Jesse Ventura disagrees with a large viewing audience for ONE show covering the 911 truth movement that aired years later.

Are you just playing stupid or do you have some sort of disability in relation to following along a thread and reading comprehension?

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-23   9:50:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#224. To: Mister Clean (#152) (Edited)

"Gee, it's been 9 years. Why isn't the "truth" freely known yet?"

Mister you can Cleanie my wiener, how nice of you to care to want to bait me in a new thread.

Now go back to your overseer and tell him you want a new forum to work. You ain't going to get anywhere here,


Toruk Makto

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-23   10:03:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#225. To: A K A Stone (#221)

"Don't you think it is odd that they took the scenic route over Ohio and didn't go directly to the targets. They seemed pretty sure of themselves not being intercepted to fly around for almost 2 hours."

Do I think it's "odd" that four amateur pilots had some issues with getting their bearings straight as they flew a passenger jet accross a coupla times zones? Yeah, I think that whole scenario is surreal...how come only one plane's passengers chose to fight back against four puny groups of terrorists? Fact is, I don't see how the heck the Islamofascists pulled off such a caper, but there's a big chasm of doubt between saying THAT and claiming that Dubyuh had foreknowledge of the attack and chose to let it run its course. The evidence I've seen that's purported to support said allegation has been less than convincing, imho.

Regards...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-23   13:54:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#226. To: Ferret Mike (#222)

"Nine Eleven was an inside job."

Lack of any evidence whatsoever supporting yer allegation notwithstanding...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-23   13:56:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#227. To: Ferret Mike (#222)

Hmmm...turns out that the Great&MercifulLordMessiah Obama is an incompetent PUTZ and a hardcore Marxist ideologue, not unlike ALL elected RATS.

Time to flush the DeeCee commode of all the RATS/RINOs in Congress...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-23   13:58:35 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#228. To: abraxas (#223)

Are you just playing stupid or do you have some sort of disability in relation to following along a thread and reading comprehension?

I'm trying to understand why more people aren't buying into 9/11 "truth." You blame the media but then you point out that people can read about it and watch Jesse Ventura's show.

It just sounds to me like you don't think 9/11 "truth" will ever be considered legitimate unless the MSM treats its seriously.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-23   20:04:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#229. To: Ferret Mike (#224)

You ain't going to get anywhere here,

And 9/11 "truth" ain't going to get anywhere, period.

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-23   20:05:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#230. To: Mister Clean (#228)

people can read

Therein lies a problem......people, like yourself for instance, CAN read but you don't. The reading rate in this nation is pathetic.

Here's some dismal reading statistics from 2007:

•58% of the US adult population never reads another book after high school

•42% of college graduates never read another book

•80% of US families did not buy or read a book last year.

•70% of US adults have not been in a bookstore in the last five years

•57% of new books are not read to completion.

•Most readers do not get past page 18 in a book they have purchased.

Actually, I posted an article from the Washington Times today discussing the need for another investigation into 911. Seems 1000 architects and engineers have some serious questions regarding the goobermint scenario on that day. Imagine that.....the Washington Times posing the question of another investigation.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-02-23   20:21:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#231. To: abraxas (#230)

Therein lies a problem......people, like yourself for instance, CAN read but you don't. The reading rate in this nation is pathetic.

So 9/11 "truth" hasn't caught on with most Americans because:

a) The MSM keeps the information from them

b) Not enough people read

Okay!

Mister Clean  posted on  2010-02-23   20:40:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#232. To: abraxas (#230)

people can read

Therein lies a problem......people, like yourself for instance, CAN read but you don't. The reading rate in this nation is pathetic.

Here's some dismal reading statistics from 2007:

•58% of the US adult population never reads another book after high school

•42% of college graduates never read another book

•80% of US families did not buy or read a book last year.

•70% of US adults have not been in a bookstore in the last five years

•57% of new books are not read to completion.

•Most readers do not get past page 18 in a book they have purchased.

Interesting stats.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2010-02-23   20:47:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#233. To: Mudboy Slim (#225)

Fact is, I don't see how the heck the Islamofascists pulled off such a caper, but there's a big chasm of doubt between saying THAT and claiming that Dubyuh had foreknowledge of the attack and chose to let it run its course. The evidence I've seen that's purported to support said allegation has been less than convincing, imho.

Regards...MUD

You have to have faith that Islamo-Fascists did the deed and there's less proof of that than advanced insider knowledge. I'm not saying "w" knew it in advance because I doubt Dubya knew what day it was. The CIA had plenty of advanced knowledge as has been documented from numerous sources.

Whomever pulled off the caper convinced NORAD to sit idle while they flew around for as long as an hour and a half prior to striking the fucking PENTAGON. The most secure facility on planet earth, bro. And no video ... hahahaha !!!

Where's the evidence of Islamo-fascists flying those huge aircraft at high speeds, making incredible manuevers to strike their targets ? Oh yeah, no black boxes either ... ho hum !

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-23   20:47:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#234. To: noone222 (#233)

Interesting...it's obvious you've studied this caper a lot deeper than I have...so, fer the record, do you believe the Twin Towers were taken down by a series of explosive charges set (by whom is up fer debate) prior to 9/11/01? I'm not being facetious here, but I've been debating this issue with the 9/11 Truthers on various chat forums fer 8-9 years, and these are the sorta points they defend that make me doubt their credibility.

"I'm not saying "w" knew it in advance because I doubt Dubya knew what day it was."

Hmmm...I realize yer a Bushbasher from waaay back, but do you really believe Dubyuh was/is this clueless dunderhead you and many other Obamabots imagine? Mis-underestimating yer political adversaries may be fun sport with yer fellow haters, but it's ultimately counter-productive to achieving yer political aims.

Regards...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-24   7:37:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#235. To: Ferret Mike (#222) (Edited)

"You are our stand-up comic, Slim."

Thanks Mike, my purpose here is to amuse, bemuse, and eventually educate...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-24   7:39:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#236. To: Mudboy Slim (#234)

do you believe the Twin Towers were taken down by a series of explosive charges set (by whom is up fer debate) prior to 9/11/01?

Yes. I believe this is undeniable.

(However, I have even considered it a possibility that explosives are secretly built into these buildings since we know that they will eventually be brought down).

If the explosives were placed as part of a conspiracy my guess would be that it was done sometime after the 1993 bombing. The company doing the clean-up after the 1993 Bombing was "TRI-DATA" a sub-division of "Systems Planning". Systems Planning designs, builds, installs and services remote control devices for large aircraft/and drones. The CEO of Systems Planning prior to his taking the position of Comptroller of the Pentagon was Dov Zakheim. (Who also came up missing a couple trillion bucks on 9-10-01, according to Don Rumsfeld).

Zakheim had means, motive, and opportunity, the three key elements critical to investigating any crime.

I realize yer a Bushbasher from waaay back, but do you really believe Dubyuh was/is this clueless dunderhead you and many other Obamabots imagine? Mis- underestimating yer political adversaries may be fun sport with yer fellow haters, but it's ultimately counter-productive to achieving yer political aims.

My distaste for Bush started with his grandfather, increased dramatically with his father and continues to this moment. I have believed that George Herbert Walker Bush was involved in killing Kennedy for approximately 20 years, so my loathing of this family is not a recent development. Whether "w" is a retard or a genius makes little difference to my analysis. I think his entire family are psychopaths.

Nor do I see any difference in the puppets placed in the oval office except in their varying abilities in selling their puppet masters bullshit.

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-24   8:43:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#237. To: noone222 (#236)

"...do you believe the Twin Towers were taken down by a series of explosive charges set (by whom is up fer debate) prior to 9/11/01?"

"Yes. I believe this is undeniable."

Well, my friend, more power to you, but we're gonna haveta agree to disagree that this is an "undeniable" truth...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-24   9:53:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#238. To: Mudboy Slim (#237)

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

We agree on this !

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-24   9:54:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#239. To: noone222 (#236)

"I have believed that George Herbert Walker Bush was involved in killing Kennedy for approximately 20 years..."

Hmmm...let's not stray too far from the subject of this thread, but that's the first time I've heard that charge. Dubyuh's daddy sure musta been a busy bee...remember, a lotta folks believe he also secretly authorized Saddam to take over Kuwait, plus, we all know his LIES about never raising our taxes saddled us with eight years of Slick Willie in the White House.

Personally, I think Bush, Sr.'s most egregious offense was squandering the ReaganLegacy and the momentum that was gained in '80 and '84. That said, I don't actually believe he was an ally of Lee Harvey Oswald.

Regards...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-24   9:59:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#240. To: noone222 (#238)

"We agree on this!"

Good...you'd think most folks who post to a political chat forum called the "freedom4um" would agree that the U.S. Constitution is really the only thing besides WeThePeople that protects our God-given liberties from being ignored by tyrannical leaders in DeeCee. I may not have bought into all yer theories related to 9/11 and/or the JFK assassination, but I share yer distaste fer most of those folks we place in the highest echelons of the Federal bureaucracy, be they RATS or RINOs. Dubyuh turned out to be just as I predicted him to be, a virtual clone of his Milquetoast Moderate daddy...it was his inability--or unwillingness--to "Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!" that led directly to the ouster of Pubbies in 2006 and 2008, imho.

Regards...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-24   10:06:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#241. To: Mudboy Slim (#239)

That said, I don't actually believe he was an ally of Lee Harvey

Me either, I don't think Oswald shot anyone that fateful day, though I think there's a lot more to learn about Oswald's intelligence ties.

Have you ever seen the document from the Houston FBI Office recording the phone conversation with George Herbert Walker Bush, owner of Zapata Oil Company, made within an hour of Kennedy's murder, wherein Bush claims to have some information regarding a college student that has been making threats about killing Kennedy ?

Bush claims that he is calling from Tyler, Texas and is on his way to Dallas.

Here:

Do you think Bush was being honest when he told the Senate at his confirmation hearing as CIA Director that he had NO PRIOR EXPERIENCE ?

Do you know that the Bay of Pigs Operation was named operation Zapata ?

Did you know that the two ships used to attack Cuba at the Bay of Pigs were named "Barbara" and "Houston" ?

There's enough evidence to call a GRAND JURY, there's no statute of limitations on murder. J. Edgar Hoover sent out a memo to indicate that he'd notified "George Bush / CIA" of the Kennedy Assassination. (Bush denied any knowledge and said it must have been someone else ... what bullshit).

Bush, Nixon and E.Howard Hunt were all involved in the anti-Castro campaign in Florida, where they recruited some of the Watergate Burglars ... Nixon was Eisenhower's VP at the time of the anti-Castro activity, and he was in Dallas, the day before Kennedy was murdered. And later said, uhh, I don't recall where I was when Kennedy was killed ... as did Bush.

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-24   12:58:27 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#242. To: Mudboy Slim (#240)

At this stage of the game it looks to me like they invented the Federal (Reserve Bank) Government to destroy the Constitution.

The solution would be to devolve power back to the states, counties, and local governments.

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-24   13:11:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#243. To: noone222 (#241)

Alrightee, I read yer memo...but before I answer all yer questions--fwiw, I hadn't heard anything about the circumstances you allege regarding the Bay of Pigs, did the US Navy actually have a ship called the "Barbara"?--just answer me this, "HOO the heck's 'SA Graham W. Kitchel' and is he alive to corroborate this memo?" Furthermore, if this memo was "Unclassified" on 10/15/93, did ANYONE ever try and track down this ex-student at the Univ. of Houston (James Parrott)?

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-24   14:12:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#244. To: noone222 (#242)

"The solution would be to devolve power back to the states, counties, and local governments."

Yep, and the only folks hurt in such a scenario are those who are presently profitting by bleeding us dry, forever sucking on the teat of the Federal Leviathan...'bout time those jokers got a REAL JOB that produces something useful for their fellow man...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-24   14:14:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#245. To: noone222 (#241)

"George Herbert Walker Bush, owner of Zapata Oil Company..."

"Do you know that the Bay of Pigs Operation was named operation Zapata?"

If this is true, and by implication, Bush had a hand in the Bay of Pigs operation or was carrying out some sorta vigilante vengeance fer JFK's failure to liberate the Cuban people from the tyrannical Fidel Castro, why would Dubyuh's daddy call attention to himself in such a way? Is he just STOOOPID or arrogant or did he secretly wanna get caught?

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-24   14:20:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#246. To: Mudboy Slim (#243)

"HOO the heck's 'SA Graham W. Kitchel'

Special Agent Graham Kitchel was the on duty agent that took Bush' call on Nov. 22, 1963

That memorandum didn't come out until long after Kennedy was murdered. It came out with the last bunch of declassified Kennedy documents. (circa 1993)

In 1963 they didn't have caller I.D. (as far as I know). Bush was trying to establish an alibi. I think he got a case of the nerves / heebee jeebees. I also know that he met with J.Edgar Hoover the day after Kennedy was killed.

I do not know anything about Parrot.

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-24   15:42:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#247. To: Mudboy Slim (#243)

did the US Navy actually have a ship called the "Barbara"?

The Bay of Pigs Operation was not a US Navy OP ... it was CIA and they had purchased the ships. Allen Dulles (who later sat on the Warren Commission) was fired by Kennedy for the Bay of Pigs event.

At the time Bush had oil drilling rigs off the coast of Cuba as part of the Zapata Oil Company. He got into that "business" with a (CIA) buddy from his college days at Yale that was also a Skull and Bones member.

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-24   15:46:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#248. To: Mudboy Slim (#245)

If this is true, and by implication, Bush had a hand in the Bay of Pigs operation or was carrying out some sorta vigilante vengeance fer JFK's failure to liberate the Cuban people from the tyrannical Fidel Castro, why would Dubyuh's daddy call attention to himself in such a way? Is he just STOOOPID or arrogant or did he secretly wanna get caught?

Old Man Bush was being interviewed by Sarah McClendon on a national TV Program and she asked him what he thought would be his LEGACY ... Bush responded "Sarah, if the American people ever found out what we Bush's have done they'd chase us down the street and lynch us"

That may not be the exact quote.

One last thing. The headquarters building of the CIA at Langley, Va. is named after George H. W. Bush. At the dedication ceremony, George Tenet gave the dedication speech. In that speech he THANKED Bush for "PRESERVING" the CIA.

The only time the CIA faced extinction was when Kennedy said he was going to break it into a thousand pieces and throw it to the wind.

Think about it. Bush was only the CIA Director for one lousy year. Why would they name their headquarters after him ?

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-24   15:54:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#249. To: Artisan, Christine, ALL (#0)

From: Medina for Texas Campaign

Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010

Subject: Re: AJ says he's withdrawing his support of Medina if she doesn't issue an apology on her comment about truthersSource: [None]

Thank you for contacting the Debra Medina for Governor Campaign.

That interview was last week. No where does Debra say "truthers are despicable people". No where does she say asking questions is despicable. Here's the transcript:

**************************************

M: Then there's just one other thing that's left, because not being a truther is great. I'm thinking, of course you're not, of course you're not, but sometimes the wisdom is defined by knowing whom to praise and whom to, quite frankly, condemn. Someone walkin' around with the belief that America would do this to its own people, that President Bush and those around him would slaughter our own citizens in order to justify war, is a despicable thing to believe.

D: Agreed.

**************************************

We are THIS close to beating the establishment. We have to keep up the pressure, dig in, work hard and we can win this election. The status quo would like nothing better than to derail this campaign and keep one of their own in office. We've seen from their years in office that neither Kay nor Rick have any interest in representing the people of Texas ahead of their own personal agendas. What have they done to make your life better? To protect your rights to life, liberty and property? When have they EVER scaled back the size of government to any meaningful degree?

We not only have the chance to change history in Texas, and restore our rights as a free people, but also the course of the US. The world is watching what we do here in Texas. Are we going to let this stop us? I have placed my faith in the ability of Debra Medina to lead us in this fight, and I will stand by her and fight for our rights with her. I will not cave because the opposition is trying to divide and conquer. No one said this was going to be an easy fight. It's up to us to stay the course, keep our eye on the prize, and keep fighting.

Thank you,

Dustan

Medina for Governor

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2010-02-24   15:58:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#250. To: noone222 (#236)

My distaste for Bush started with his grandfather, increased dramatically with his father and continues to this moment. I have believed that George Herbert Walker Bush was involved in killing Kennedy for approximately 20 years, so my loathing of this family is not a recent development. Whether "w" is a retard or a genius makes little difference to my analysis. I think his entire family are psychopaths.

Nor do I see any difference in the puppets placed in the oval office except in their varying abilities in selling their puppet masters bullshit.

I completely agree with that..

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-24   16:02:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#251. To: James Deffenbach (#250)

I completely agree with that..

Glad to have your support, J.D.

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-24   16:06:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#252. To: noone222 (#233) (Edited)

Oh yeah, no black boxes either ... ho hum !

Well, they are making those out of the wrong material. They should just make them out of passport paper; everyone knows that is indestructible. Or so it would seem.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-24   16:11:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#253. To: TwentyTwelve (#249)

The interviewer led Medina to "agree" with him with respect to the despicable statement ... she offered up the absurd comment on her own.

She blew it and she didn't have to.

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-24   16:11:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#254. To: James Deffenbach (#252)

The Bible says my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. I would add that everyone is destroyed when the majority lack knowledge.

Today, the people that have studied the information for years are nullified by those that remain ignorant.

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-24   16:14:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#255. To: Artisan (#0)

"I have never been involved with the 9/11 truth movement, and there is no doubt in my mind that Muslim terrorists flew planes into those buildings on 9/11.

That statement alone is either proof of brain damage, total ignorance of the subject, or an outright lie.

Whatever the reason is she said that, it disqualifies her as a representative.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2010-02-24   16:17:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#256. To: TwentyTwelve (#249)

**************************************

M: Then there's just one other thing that's left, because not being a truther is great. I'm thinking, of course you're not, of course you're not, but sometimes the wisdom is defined by knowing whom to praise and whom to, quite frankly, condemn. Someone walkin' around with the belief that America would do this to its own people, that President Bush and those around him would slaughter our own citizens in order to justify war, is a despicable thing to believe.

D: Agreed.

**************************************

"... that President Bush and those around him would slaughter our own citizens in order to justify war, is a despicable thing to believe."

"Agreed."

"Agreed."

"Agreed."

"Agreed."

"Agreed."

"Agreed."

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-02-24   16:21:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#257. To: noone222 (#254)

Today, the people that have studied the information for years are nullified by those that remain ignorant.

What is sad (to me) is that they CHOOSE to be ignorant. The information to educate them beyond their ignorance is available. Of course it is "hidden" in things like books and articles online, not in porn shows.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-24   16:22:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#258. To: Mudboy Slim (#245)

See the video JFK II by John Hankey

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-25   6:38:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#259. To: Mudboy Slim, Original_Intent (#217)

Whatchu jabberin' on about now, O_I?! LOL...so tell me truthfully, do you believe Dubyuh KNEW about the impending 9/11/01 attacks prior to them taking place, chose to do nothing, and thereby condemned 3,000 innocent Americans to their untimely deaths?

Bush Saw 1st Plane Hit Tower Before Going Into Florida Classroom

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2010-02-25   7:07:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#260. To: Mudboy Slim (#239)

"I have believed that George Herbert Walker Bush was involved in killing Kennedy for approximately 20 years..."

Hmmm...let's not stray too far from the subject of this thread, but that's the first time I've heard that charge.

FBI memo, photo link Bush Sr to JFK Dallas murder scene

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2010-02-25   7:14:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#261. To: Original_Intent (#256)

www.infowars.com/open-letter-to-debra-medina/

Open Letter To Debra Medina

Via E Mail

Feb 24, 2010

Comment: This is the tone of many of the emails we are receiving, people are upset with Medina’s comments. We would like to offer Medina a chance to clarify what she said and apologize for how she characterized 9/11 truthers. We hope such a clarification will be forthcoming this week.

—————————————–

Dear Ms. Medina,

We are writing you today to express our sincere regret regarding the statements you made on the Mark Davis radio show towards the “despicable” 911 Truth Movement. After careful consideration, we have decided to ask for a refund for the time, effort, energy, and money that we ‘despicable radicals’ have wastefully donated to your campaign. You see Debra, we 911 truthers really didn’t care about your feelings toward this movement, as your supposed cause of limited government, your campaign against the transgressions against our civil liberties and your promotion of less taxation, are answers that most of us ‘truthers’ know are necessary in order to restore the Republic. Your recent comments though, prove that you can’t be trusted and after careful consideration, we have decided that we want a refund.

The most pressing issue in all of this is that you have done a complete 180 on your stance towards the issue of 911. There are numerous interviews where you simply said that the questions regarding 911 were “valid” and that you supported the rights of the citizenry to question Government no matter how hard are pressing the question or issue might be. These answers were good enough for us. No one in this so called ‘despicable’ movement ever pressured you to come out one way or the other on this issue because we simply didn’t care. The only thing we wanted to know is that we had a true Constitutionalists that had a chance to win the Governorship of the State of Texas, that’s it, nothing more. And for that, we were willing to support you in every way that we could, but now, in light of recent events, have decided that we would like a refund.

Perhaps you aren’t aware that there are numerous examples of Government carrying out false flag attacks on America. Certainly you know about that the Reichstag Fire was a false flag event , don’t you? You might have heard about another False Flag, the Gulf of Tonkin? If you dig even deeper you might find a document called ” Operation Northwoods ” where the joint chiefs of Staff promoted blowing up an aircraft full of students and blaming it on Cuba in order to go to War. Knowing that our Government and others have a history of pulling such stunts, how then can you claim our cause is despicable when the official story doesn’t add up from the get go? Maybe you missed the fact that at least 6 of the 911 Commissioners have questioned if the Citizens of the United States were told the whole story regarding the events of that fateful day. Perhaps you aren’t aware that 1,000 Architects and Engineers have put their careers on the line signing a petition saying that collapsing buildings don’t behave the way they behaved on 911, unless of course, they were helped down with demolition. The qualities displayed by these Architects and Engineers are the qualities that build character and trust, not the flip flop tactics recently employed by you and your campaign. Did I mention that we would like a refund?

When Glenn Beck sabotaged you on his show, we were your strongest supporters. The blowback Beck received from our efforts and endless campaign against him since that show, proved that we “despicable” truthers are a force to be reckoned with. We are the true activists, we are the real grass roots, and you will find that we were the major funders and supporters of your campaign, not mainline Neo Cons that have co-opted the Tea Party Movement, and now, it seems, have also co-opted you. Since we don’t support co-opted individuals, could you find it in your heart to be so polite and give us a refund?

We activists are in need of funding so that we can support real issues and real candidates. We are confident that you will comply with our request as holding on to funds given from such a despicable bunch would be horribly for you politically. You certainly don’t want to be associated with such a radical group of souls, so your decision should be an easy one. We actually feel sorry for you and your new advisors, you really could have won this race. You can keep our blood sweat and tears, but our money – we want it back!

We will leave you with two quotes -

” In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot. ” – Mark Twain

“If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”–Samuel Adams

Signed,

A Concerned Movement – Former Medina Supporters

Works Cited:

1. Wikipedia Entry – Reichstag Fire – en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire

2. Report Reveals Vietnam War Hoax – rawstory.com/news/afp/Rep...ar_hoaxes_f_01082008.html

3. U.S. Military Wanted To Provoke War With Cuba – abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1

4. MSNBC Reprint – Alleged Hijackers May Have Trained at U.S. Bases – www.prisonplanet.com/alle...may_trained_us_bases.html

5. 911 Commission Members Doubt Official Story www.infowars.com/911-comm...ers-doubt-official-story/

6. 1,000 Architects and Engineers Have Signed Petition… www.examiner.com/x-36199-...tion-to-reinvestigate-911

7. 911 Truther Controversy Makes Hypocrite of Glenn Beck – www.infowars.com/sarah-pa...-hypocrite-of-glenn-beck/

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2010-02-25   10:21:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#262. To: Mudboy Slim (#217)

so tell me truthfully, do you believe Dubyuh KNEW about the impending 9/11/01 attacks prior to them taking place, chose to do nothing, and thereby condemned 3,000 innocent Americans to their untimely deaths?

Yes, but it's much MUCH worse than that. You can't fathom it, can you ?


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-25   10:40:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#263. To: Rotara, Mudboy Slim (#262)

and thereby condemned 3,000 innocent Americans to their untimely deaths?

Not to overlook the youth sacrificed on the altar of Iraq, the ones with the WMDs, remember !

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-25   10:44:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#264. To: noone222 (#263)

Over a million dead Iraqis and not a Christian left in the entire nation.

Mission Accomplished ! ???


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-25   10:45:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#265. To: Rotara (#264)

Mission Accomplished ! ???

Yes indeed, WW III is underway !

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-25   10:54:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#266. To: Rotara, noone222 (#264)

Over a million dead Iraqis and not a Christian left in the entire nation.

Mission Accomplished ! ???

Top Project Censored Story of 2009: U.S. War Machine Kills Over One Million Iraqis

The human toll exceeds the 800,000 to 900,000 believed killed in the Rwandan genocide in 1994, and is approaching the number (1.7 million) who died in Cambodia’s infamous “Killing Fields” during the Khmer Rouge era of the 1970s.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2010-02-25   11:43:06 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#267. To: Rotara, noone222, Bill D Berger (#262)

"You can't fathom it, can you ?"

Not with the evidence I've been presented with to date...

BTW...do any of y'all got the skinny on whether or not Bush, Sr. received a MAJOR "speaking bonus" (I've heard roughly $18-20 Million) from a now-extinct firm called "Global Crossing"? I know fer a fact that Terry McAuliffe recieved said BRIBE and that the reason Dubyuh couldn't allow the Justice Department to go after TerrythePUNK was becuz Dubyuh's daddy had recieved a similar payoff.

A link to a credible source confirming--or debunking--this allegation would be greatly appreciated...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-25   14:04:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#268. To: noone222 (#263)

"Not to overlook the youth sacrificed on the altar of Iraq..."

Generations of Iraqi youth will be the greatest beneficiaries of America's successful efforts to Liberate Iraq from beneath the Tyranny of Soddom's Insane...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-25   14:07:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#269. To: Mudboy Slim (#268)

Generations of Iraqi youth will be the greatest beneficiaries of America's successful efforts to Liberate Iraq from beneath the Tyranny of Soddom's Insane...MUD

Uh huh. Saddam Hussein "was a bad man, a terrible dictator." But why, if he was really so terrible, did his own people not take him out? How many times have you seen video of him riding in an open car or standing on an open balcony and surrounded by people with full auto Ak-47's and other machine guns? Not just his bodyguards but just people on the street? And if you pay attention you would have noticed that no actual American gets close to any politician in this country with as much as a pair of fingernail clippers.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-25   14:12:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#270. To: Mudboy Slim (#267)

Bush Sr.'s ties to Global Crossing / Bush family values

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-25   14:16:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#271. To: Mudboy Slim (#268)

Generations of Iraqi youth will be the greatest beneficiaries of America's successful efforts to Liberate Iraq from beneath the Tyranny of Soddom's Insane...MUD

UGH, another mind made mush through chemical abuse.

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-25   15:52:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#272. To: Bill D Berger, Mudboy Slim (#259)

Whatchu jabberin' on about now, O_I?! LOL...so tell me truthfully, do you believe Dubyuh KNEW about the impending 9/11/01 attacks prior to them taking place, chose to do nothing, and thereby condemned 3,000 innocent Americans to their untimely deaths?

Bush Saw 1st Plane Hit Tower Before Going Into Florida Classroom

"And of course there was the curious matter of the dog that did not bark in the night."

It is the Secret Service's job to whisk the President to safety at the slightest whiff of danger. Yet they did not. Instead, even after being informed of the second plane impact, Jorge continued to sit their reading "My Pet Goat" to the little kiddies for another 20 minutes.

In theory if nobody knew what was going on for all they knew another plane could be making for the President's location - which had been publicized a week in advance. Yet the Secret Service did nothing. It was almost like they, and Jorge, knew that there was no real danger. How could they know that?

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-02-26   0:11:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#273. To: TwentyTwelve (#261)

Amen.

Let the truth be out and be known.

"The truth is cruel, but it can be loved, and sets free those who have loved it." ~ Albert Camus

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-02-26   0:17:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#274. To: Original_Intent (#272)

Thank you, O_I, yer comments are quite illustrative, however...

"In theory if nobody knew what was going on for all they knew another plane could be making for the President's location - which had been publicized a week in advance. Yet the Secret Service did nothing. It was almost like they, and Jorge, knew that there was no real danger. How could they know that?"

After almost nine (9) years of the 911Truthers trying to check under every stone and follow every lead, the best you can come up with is this theory that the Secret Service response--in Florida--to an attack on NooYawk was somehow not what you'd expect from a professional institution like the SS?

Some would point out that THAT ain't exactly a smoking gun, my friend...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-26   7:15:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#275. To: TwentyTwelve (#261)

"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot." – Mark Twain

I love it...excellent quote!! Now, would you FINALLY explain what's gonna happen in 2012?!

Heh heh heh...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-26   7:18:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#276. To: Original_Intent, Bill D Berger, Mudboy Slim (#272)

Instead, even after being informed of the second plane impact, Jorge continued to sit their reading "My Pet Goat" to the little kiddies for another 20 minutes.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-26   9:34:24 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#277. To: Mudboy Slim (#274) (Edited)

After almost nine (9) years of the 911Truthers trying to check under every stone and follow every lead, the best you can come up with is this theory that the Secret Service response--in Florida--to an attack on NooYawk was somehow not what you'd expect from a professional institution like the SS?

Some would point out that THAT ain't exactly a smoking gun, my friend...MUD

ugh...ya know, Mud. Intellectual dishonesty to cover up for a bunch of NAZIs just because they're repubicans invokes the strong desire in me to bitch slap you until you cry like a little gurl. IOW, one good pop.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-26   9:38:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#278. To: Mudboy Slim (#274)

Some would point out that THAT ain't exactly a smoking gun, my friend...MUD

How about 250+ smoking guns?

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2010-02-26   9:47:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#279. To: Rotara (#276) (Edited)

The upside down American Flag is a distress signal. I wonder if holding that book upside down doing that to the flag on the cover was a Freudian slip?

It shows his mind was elsewhere at the very least. The fact he stayed in the classroom after being told of the hit on the World Trade Center definitely makes that photo opportunity seem like the alibi it was.

He also said later he saw the first impact on a TV at the school, even though footage of that strike wasn't televised until the next day.

Most people who know the truth feel justifiably that he did see covertly filmed/videotaped footage of that strike that day. The dip just plain goofed not realizing his error much as any liar can't keep their facts straight.


Toruk Makto

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-26   9:59:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#280. To: Bill D Berger (#278)

250+ Smoking Guns=excellent

christine  posted on  2010-02-26   10:07:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#281. To: Ferret Mike (#279)

These people are so guilty it's maddening to me...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-26   10:14:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#282. To: Mudboy Slim (#274)

Oh, spare me, I have, at varying times, presented reams of the contradictory physical data, times, observations, and actual events.

At this point the only way someone who has been posting as long as you have could believe the official cover legend to be true is through abysmal invincible willful ignorance or duplicity.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-02-26   12:01:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#283. To: Rotara (#277)

"...the strong desire in me to bitch slap you until you cry like a little gurl."

You ain't man enuff to mess with me, my friend...better set yer sights just a little bit lower...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-26   12:24:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#284. To: Rotara (#281)

"These people are so guilty it's maddening to me..."

Do something about it besides whinin' then...like maybe PROVE IT!! LOL...just kidding, I realize the 911Truthers have demonstrated fer all to see that y'all got no evidence whatsoever to back up yer caterwaulin'...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-26   12:27:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#285. To: Original_Intent (#282)

"...the only way someone who has been posting as long as you have could believe the official cover legend to be true"

I've read most all of the 911Truther's so-called "evidence" and realize that most of it is based on a foundation of LIES and innuendo. If you had anything significant after nine years, I reckon the RAT-Media wouldda made it public by now...but they haven't, 'cuz y'all don't have any LEGITIMATE evidence of Bush's guilt in the killing of 3,000 Americans.

That doesn't help yer side's case much, does it?

Regards...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-26   12:32:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#286. To: Mudboy Slim, Original_Intent (#285)

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"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2010-02-26   13:23:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#287. To: Mudboy Slim (#283) (Edited)

You ain't man enuff to mess with me, my friend...better set yer sights just a little bit lower...MUD

SNICKER.

You have no idea to whom you are conversing; yet I know EVERYTHING about you goofy.

You're not intimidating physically or mentally plus you know you're not fighting for truth but lies, deep down.

You're a cream puff sweetie...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-26   14:36:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#288. To: Mudboy Slim (#284)

Do something about it besides whinin' then...like maybe PROVE IT!!

It's been proven the Official Fairy Tale is just that. A fairy tale.

But you know this...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-26   14:37:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#289. To: Rotara (#287)

"You have no idea to whom you are conversing..."

Nor do you, ma'am...I ain't like normal folks...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-26   18:48:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#290. To: Rotara, noone222, Cynicom (#288)

"It's been proven the Official Fairy Tale is just that. A fairy tale."

Do you also believe, my friend, that Man-Made Global Warming is "settled science" and thereby genuine justification fer enacting International Cap & Trade legislation?

Call me "STOOOPID" all y'all want, but there are legitimate holes in the conspiracy theories you 911Truthers wanna champion...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-26   18:52:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#291. To: Rotara (#287)

"You're a cream puff sweetie..."

If yer a vivacious young chiquita, you'll find out soon enuff...MUD

BTW...if yer married or not-so-vivacious, I apologize fer offending you, if I did.

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-26   18:55:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#292. To: Rotara (#287)

"I know EVERYTHING about you goofy."

Please share, my vivacious new girlfriend, I wanna hear all the Mudboy rumors spoken directly to my face...MUD

BTW...then, I'll respond.

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-26   18:57:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#293. To: wudidiz (#286)

"Yer despicable!!"

And yer quite predictable, my Obamabot friend...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-26   18:59:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#294. To: rotara, Minerva, Jethro Tull, noone222, Bill D Berger, ferret mike, CAPPSMADNESS, James Deffenbach, turtle, Dakmar, TLBSHOW (#285)

"...y'all don't have any LEGITIMATE evidence of Bush's guilt in the killing of 3,000 Americans."

In all seriousness, y'all have purty much struck out in yer quest to convince WeThePeople that "Bush Did It!!" on 9/11/2001...to keep on IRRATIONALLY holding onto these ridiculous illusions is probably not very good fer yer emotional and psychological well-being...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-26   19:04:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#295. To: Rotara (#288)

Honestly, my friends, I'm not rrying to be an asshole, I'm just trying to talk a few good patriots back off the ledge...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-26   19:06:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#296. To: Mudboy Slim (#295)

I'm not trying to be an asshole

Your body of work indicates it's something you do effortlessly.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-02-26   19:08:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#297. To: Mudboy Slim (#295)

Honestly, my friends, I'm not rrying to be an asshole, I'm just trying to talk a few good patriots back off the ledge...MUD

You're part of the cult driving weaker sheeple out onto the plank for sacrifice to your Globalist Neocon-Neocommie gods...gfy Mud. You and your merry band of jewpsies aren't fooling anyone but the dullest of dullards.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-26   19:16:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#298. To: Rotara (#297)

Mud is another Jew water carrier.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-02-26   19:17:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#299. To: Mudboy Slim (#294)

Fuck you, mud.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-26   19:18:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#300. To: Cynicom (#298)

Mud is another Jew water carrier.

I know.

4um has it's fair share of USNATOrael assholes lately, eh ?

If you stand with any of America's enemies (such as israel), then you aren't going to get any quarter from us.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-26   19:19:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#301. To: Mudboy Slim (#291)

We all know mud. Girls are what you do when you're not doing boys...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-26   19:21:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#302. To: Mudboy Slim (#294)

In all seriousness, y'all have purty much struck out in yer quest to convince WeThePeople that "Bush Did It!!" on 9/11/2001...to keep on IRRATIONALLY holding onto these ridiculous illusions is probably not very good fer yer emotional and psychological well-being...MUD

I never have said that "Bush did it." As far as actually doing anything I seriously doubt Bush could organize a piss up in a brewery as they say in England. What I do believe is that elements within the government, elements at the highest levels, either let it happen on purpose or made it happen on purpose. That has been my position all along. I believe Cheney probably had more to do with it than Bush did.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-26   19:34:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#303. To: Mudboy Slim (#289)

I ain't like normal folks...MUD

No $#it! Imagine my surprise.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-26   19:35:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#304. To: Mudboy Slim (#290)

Call me "STOOOPID" all y'all want, but there are legitimate holes in the conspiracy theories you 911Truthers wanna champion...MUD

Hey Stupid, name the legitimate holes in the conspiracy theories. Please be specific.

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-26   19:35:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#305. To: Samuel Gray (#296)

I'm not trying to be an asshole

Your body of work indicates it's something you do effortlessly.

Yessssssss !!!

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-26   19:37:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#306. To: noone222 (#305)

Yessssssss !!!

Bravo, Bravo....

Cynicom  posted on  2010-02-26   19:38:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#307. To: Mudboy Slim (#289)

"You have no idea to whom you are conversing..."

Nor do you

Yeah, actually I do. I have your whole file in front of me right now.

Would you grant permission to release personal information about your pathetic existence right here on the Internets ?


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-26   19:39:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#308. To: Rotara (#307)

Yeah, actually I do. I have your whole file in front of me right now.

Would you grant permission to release personal information about your pathetic existence right here on the Internets ?

Fuck him, bring it. (Don't forget the pictures).

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-26   19:40:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#309. To: Rotara (#307)

Would you grant permission to release personal information about your pathetic existence right here on the Internets ?

I grant it on his behalf because it's fun to abuse him.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-02-26   19:40:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#310. To: Mudboy Slim (#293)

"Yer despicable!!"

And yer quite predictable, my Obamabot friend...MUD

Do you just pull these lines out of hat?

How could I be an Obamabot?


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2010-02-26   20:40:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#311. To: wudidiz (#310)

How could I be an Obamabot?

It's the standard FReeptard reBUTTal: here's a couple FReeptards taking a posting break...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-26   23:00:24 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#312. To: noone222 (#308)

Be on the look out for this POS:

Here's a little mud from awhile back.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-02-26   23:12:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#313. To: wudidiz (#310)

R U an Obamabot?! I dunno...

"It's Hard to be a Saint in THIS City!!"
(To be sung to Bruce Springsteen's "It's Hard To Be A Saint In The City")

MUD's skin's thick like leather, gotta righteous mindset like Rush Limbaugh...
MUD was born blue-blood Navy, but I thirst fer the Truth we'll show ya!!
Right must talk like Reagan, smite Progressive PUNKS...
DemRATS, we're gonna get to know ya!!
With MUD's Black Threads attacking Left's airhead FREAKS...
Lib'ral networks, Marxist twirps fight like girleymen twinks...
When I jog down Broad Street, friendly neighbors they beep...
Sweet sisters fell back and said, "Don't Mudboy look pretty..."
Dem [b]Marxists fer Obama[/b] whinin', "RATS run Richmond city!!"
US Church Hill boys sure talk gritty...
It's so hard to show restraint, so I'm witty!!

Mudboy's just cleaning his alley, MUD can talk some trash!!
Fightin' t'wits 'cuz they're awful, Devolve Power to the States at last!!
Truth is the Left's main problem 'cuz they're braindead RAT-FOOLS!!
This RightWing scrambler's whuppin' Guv'ment TOOLS!!
Next, we'll defeat Left's Power...Marxist Left we'll confound!!
Obama appeared like Jesus to RAT-freaks in DeeCee...
Promising the Land he would give RATS Health Care fer "FREE"!!
He'll feel MUD's sour breath on his neck, if we decide to IMPEACH!!
It's not hard to seem like Saints when yer bein' compared to RAT-FREAKS!!

RightWing's ragin' fer OUR Country...Right shan't quit 'til Left is DEAD!!
As DemRATS crack up, MUD's singin'...FarRight shall feed yer head!!
We'll fight against RAT-Power and we'll ping folks to MUD's thread!!
Folks, there's too much Fed'ral Guv'ment...FOOLS gotta wise up, Screw DeeCee!!
We're fed up, Barry smokes POT...Statists HATE those who are unique!!
MUD's heart keeps beatin' faster...Statists, KNEEL and kiss MUD's feet!!
Spending's MADE US this hole...sing, "To HELL with DeeCee!!"
And Dem Hokie spinsters shore look pretty...
Dem Lib'rals want yer wallet, whinin' "Nickels fer yer pity!!"
Still us Church Hill boys OWN this City!!
It's so hard to be a Saint when yer pretty...

Mudboy Slim (26 February 2010)

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-26   23:20:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#314. To: Rotara (#312)

"MUD!!"

Handsome young lad, if I don't say so myself...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-26   23:24:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#315. To: Rotara (#307)

"Would you grant permission to release personal information about your pathetic existence right here on the Internets ?"

Please do, you skanky bitch...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-26   23:25:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#316. To: noone222, ALL (#304)

"...name the legitimate holes in the conspiracy theories."

ALL of them?! LOL...let's start with you friggin' IDIOTS who actually believe Dubyuh's plumbers preset a buncha explosives in the World Trade Centers to take down the buildings since we all KNOW that jet-fuel fire doesn't melt steel...ROFLMAO!!

Sorry, y'all, but from what I can tell, 911Truthers are full-fledged whackjobs...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-26   23:31:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#317. To: Mudboy Slim (#313)

MUD's heart keeps beatin' faster...Statists, KNEEL and kiss MUD's feet!!

Before or after fitting you with a fresh diaper?

“we were respected as the most disinterested and charitable nation in the world.” - Robert A. Taft

Dakmar  posted on  2010-02-26   23:44:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#318. To: Mudboy Slim, Rotara (#313)

MUD's skin's thick like leather

You're head's thick like cheese.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2010-02-26   23:47:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#319. To: Mudboy Slim (#316)

ALL of them?! LOL...let's start with you friggin' IDIOTS who actually believe Dubyuh's plumbers preset a buncha explosives in the World Trade Centers to take down the buildings since we all KNOW that jet-fuel fire doesn't melt steel...ROFLMAO!!

Hey Stupid, don't try to bluff your way out of calling others idiots when it's you that's a moron.

Nobody said Dubya or his plumbers did anything. While I'm fairly certain that the Jet fuel didn't melt the steel, I'm fucking positive it didn't pulverize the concrete into dust.

After you called anyone that doesn't believe the government's "CONSPIRACY THEORY" an idiot I sat and thought about what you were saying for awhile and decided the exact opposite was true.

Anyone that believes the government's fairytale in light of all of the inconsistencies is toooooo fucking stupid to talk to.

Oh yeah, dipshit, Building #7 wasn't hit by a Jet or Jet fuel enough to cause it to collapse into its own footprint. I have to ask you to do the same thing I did before you throw around that smartass bullshit. Really think about it for a minute or two before you repeat the government stupidity. There are more reasons to doubt the government version than there are to believe it, FAR MORE.

3000 Americans were murdered by someone. That someone also covered it up and corrupted the crime scene as much as possible just like at WACO and OKC. They buried / hid the evidence.

Over 1000 architects have recently submitted a letter to congress demanding a new investigation because they believe it was explosives and not jet fuel that brought down the buildings. Are they just another 1000 mindless nutcases ? I think not.

3000 people were murdered. If your intent is to poke fun and make jokes to show the people on this 4UM how cute you are it's at the expense of those victims families. If you're not just being the class clown then you're a shill. Which is it ?

Blaming 19 A-Rabs in a cave is ludicrous. 10 of those 19 accused were on the terrorist watch list and they are alleged to have beat the security systems to board the planes. (If there were any video tapes showing them passing through metal detectors in order to board the planes I'd shut up, but there's not.

After the events of 9-11, 7 of those 19 A-rabs pictured in the papers showed up ALIVE at their respective embassies. This means someone had forged their I.D.s, kinda like what's happened in Dubai recently.

My dad was a Captain on the Fire Department in a major city. Firemen become family to each other because they live together at their job. They are generally real heroes on a daily basis. Their job can be very dangerous. They have to trust and depend upon each other 100%. 300 of these guys died trying to help their fellow citizens. Surviving firemen said they heard BOMBS GOING OFF. Do you think they were all liars or idiots too ?

I guess I could go on a rant, but I don't know if you're interested in the truth or if you're a government stooge.

In the history of skyscrapers 3 have collapsed into their footprint after catching fire. All three of them happened on 9-11 in Manhattan even though many skyscrapers have burned intensely for days without collapsing.

I think it shows a lack of real character to ridicule others that are serious about demanding another investigation.

Yes, someone planted explosives in those buildings prior to September 11, 2001. If you can't see it that's OK, you're just a simple minded person. But when you start calling people names without supplying one ounce of supporting evidence you're an asshole.

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-27   0:40:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#320. To: wudidiz, Dakmar, Rotara (#318)

"Right!!"
(To be sung to Bruce Springsteen's "Night")

MUD gets up every morning and he's wound up as hell...
He's gotta work late 'cuz BigGuv'ment's ringin' his bell!!
Don't you pout...yer yer father's son!!
Winning's the start of a beautiful run!!
Yes, Mudboy's Right!! Patriots, stock up yer house...
Stand up and fight...folks, rise up and DO WHAT'S RIGHT!!
Leftists' world is busting at its seams...
Right's rejecting Obama's Marxist dreams...
Holding on to what's Right...folks, we'll work all day...
Let's blow Left away 'cuz we're RIGHT!!

Yes, DeeCee's filled with Truth Evaders...
Obama LIES!! DemRATS are vile invaders!!
But "He's so pretty" say the Hollyweird stars...
Too bad Hope and Change won't power our cars!!
So, stand up and fight...fulfull Reagan's bold dreams...
Armed with faith in Liberty...proudly sing and do what's Right!!

Yes, we're in love with the riches Freedom brings...
Progressive Guv'ment retards righteous dreams...still, know MUD's way is Right...
MUD works nine to five and somehow he's reminding what's Right!!
'Tis OUR day...Left's mighty corrupt, RATS are sooo VILE!!
We're FarRight!! We're gonna Devolve Power 'til DemRATS cry!!
Our future is Right!! We're the FarRight!! Tyranny, we shall SMITE!!

And you know MUD shall be stalking Barry...
And we'll trap him somehow, I swear...
I swear we're Right! We LOVE Liberty!!
Lib'rals, all y'all shall KNEEL to the Right!!

(Saxaphone to end...)

Mudboy Slim (Commenced 10 January 2010...completed 27 February 2010)

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-27   0:41:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#321. To: Mudboy Slim (#320)

Have you heard this song?


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2010-02-27   1:07:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#322. To: Mudboy Slim (#268)

Generations of Iraqi youth will be the greatest beneficiaries of America's successful efforts to Liberate Iraq from beneath the Tyranny of Soddom's Insane...MUD

O peration

I raqi

L iberation

____________

OIL

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-27   1:44:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#323. To: Mudboy Slim (#316)

freedocumentaries.org/teatro1.php?filmID=127&lan=en

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-27   2:54:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#324. To: Mudboy Slim (#320)

mudbot you suck! but you already knew that.


computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-02-27   4:02:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#325. To: IRTorqued (#324)

Of course, you've told me repeatedly...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-27   16:20:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#326. To: Mudboy Slim (#314)

Handsome young lad,

Who, that faggot with the blue shades? Looks like a classic example of Douchebaggius americanus redneckus.

So now we know you're ugly *and* stupid.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-02-27   16:26:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#327. To: noone222 (#322)

"O peration

I raqi

L iberation
____________

OIL "

C'mon, mi amigo/a...do YOU actually believe that our efforts to Liberate the Iraqis was all about our accessing cheap fuel sources? You seem like a very bright man/woman, based on yer posts to me to date, so I'd value an honest answer from someone who really doesn't hold the Bush's in high regard at all.

"Iraq was always the ugly Mideastern stepsister when it came down to countries with the biggest untapped petroleum resources in the Mideast. If it was all about "Blood fer Oil", why the F**K didn't we liberate Saudi Arabia...or Iran?!"

Sorry, y'all, but yer "LOGIC" don't make a lick o' sense...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-27   16:35:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#328. To: Samuel Gray (#326)

You don't know diddley, SammieGee...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-27   16:35:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#329. To: Mudboy Slim (#328)

You don't know diddley, SammieGee...MUD

Yeah ... that's what they all say.

"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977

buckeroo  posted on  2010-02-27   16:38:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#330. To: Samuel Gray (#326)

"...now we know you're ugly *and* stupid."

Actually, Newbie, someday you may come to find out that the UGLIEST *and* STOOOPIDEST 4um-posters are those who stubbornly refuse to make their pictures available fer all to see...(think about it, li'l boy)...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-27   16:40:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#331. To: buckeroo (#329)

Good to see you, my foul-breathed ex-buddy...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-27   16:41:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#332. To: wudidiz (#318)

"You're head's thick like cheese."

Sure, but it tastes more like spicy pastrami...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-27   16:42:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#333. To: Mudboy Slim (#331)

Why is it good to see me when you have sucked both Bush's and Limbaugh's cocks time after time after time? Want to suck mine, too?

"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977

buckeroo  posted on  2010-02-27   16:43:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#334. To: All (#332)

333...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-27   16:43:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#335. To: buckeroo (#333)

LOL...everybody knows that since the operation you ain't got no pecker, Penis- Breath...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-27   16:44:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#336. To: Mudboy Slim (#335)

I wager you want a new face in American politics. Some bitch from Alaska because you wave POM-POMs based upon some GOP email. Any truth to that?

"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977

buckeroo  posted on  2010-02-27   16:47:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#337. To: Mudboy Slim (#330)

You dipshit. I'd prefer to just kick a mudhole in you and stomp it dry. I know everything I need to know about you from that pic.

You're divorced at least once, have a menial job, no more than a high school education, a room temperature IQ, and could wear a finger cot for a condom with room to spare.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-02-27   16:47:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#338. To: buckeroo (#336)

"Any truth to that?"

Yes, bucky, it is true, yer breath smells of moist penis...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-27   18:43:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#339. To: Mudboy Slim (#338)

While you wouldn't know what my lips touch, I wager your lips are sucking the cunt of the GOP. Her name is Sarah Palin, a god-damned liar and another bullshitter your lips touch.

"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977

buckeroo  posted on  2010-02-27   18:47:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#340. To: Samuel Gray (#337)

"I know everything I need to know..."to be a MORONIC RAT Obamabot.

I agree...you play the role of braindead Leftist to a "T"...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-27   18:50:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#341. To: Mudboy Slim (#338)

yer breath smells of moist penis

How do you know what that smells like? French-kissing your mom again?

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-02-27   18:51:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#342. To: buckeroo (#339)

"While you wouldn't know what my lips touch..."

LOL...don't fergit, boy, I know you...and we both know full well yer a full- fledged COCKSUCKER!!

Now everybody knows...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-27   18:52:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#343. To: Samuel Gray (#341)

"How do you know what that smells like?"

Spoken like a true JuniorHighSchooler who's never had a hummer from a young lady...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-27   18:54:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#344. To: Mudboy Slim (#342)

You are off the charts. You lie, steal and beg while acting like an asshole. Goodbye forever.

"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977

buckeroo  posted on  2010-02-27   18:56:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#345. To: Mudboy Slim (#343) (Edited)

You scolding anyone about a junior high level of discourse is rich. Look up the word irony, you skinwhistle.

The biggest joke of all is that you really do fancy yourself a 'true patriot' and that you're striking a blow against the 'federal leviathan', a phrase you've worn into meaninglessness by your ceaseless use of it. You truly think you're making a difference. You're either delusional or cripplingly stupid.

Samuel Adams, Thomas Paine, all the Overmountain Men at King's Mountain, and every anonymous patriot in every unmarked grave the world over laughs at you, as do we all.

You think showing up at some bullshit rally with a handmade kindergarten sign that says "Clinton (*hearts*) Terrorists" and spamming internet message boards with a total readership of maybe 1,000 people with attempts at song parody that are so bad that one wonders if your mother ingested drugs while you were in utero makes you worthy of the title 'patriot.' Motherfucker, please.

Run along and play WoW now; that sound you hear just almost out of range is the founding fathers laughing at you.

Yeah, no, you go ahead, Mud..."FIGHT FER THE RIGHT" is right up there with "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" in the pantheon of rousing patriotic speech. If you look really closely at the Declaration, you'll see where Thomas Jefferson had crossed out "I (heart) freedom", then replaced it with the text we know now.

And dude, no one who sits at home on Saturday night playing world of warcraft with a character his brother designed for him has ever come closer than a cable modem of getting a blow job.

You pathetic piece of brain-dead, fool-slobbering shit.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-02-27   20:10:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#346. To: Samuel Gray (#345)

TeeHeeHee...you amuse me, SammyGee...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-27   20:18:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#347. To: buckeroo (#344)

"Goodbye forever."

Promise, Penis-Breath?!

I doubt it...you'll be back beggin' fer scraps from MUD before it's all over and done with...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-27   20:19:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#348. To: buckeroo (#344)

"You are off the charts."

You got that right, PB...you know the Syntaurs' mission statement...

"Bigger than the Beatles!!"

And you know full well, once MUD sets a goal, INEVITABLY, MUD ACHIEVES his goal...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-27   20:23:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#349. To: Samuel Gray (#345)

That was one of the most impassioned posts I have ever read. Man, I am going to look for your posts from now on.

"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977

buckeroo  posted on  2010-02-27   20:25:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#350. To: Mudboy Slim (#346)

Oh, no doubt you're literally too stupid to insult and you'll keep writing that awful shit you write, but don't presume to call it patriotism.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-02-27   20:26:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#351. To: Samuel Gray (#345)

"FIGHT FER THE RIGHT!!"

You know I will, SammyGee...and might I add that you are doing a wonderful job portraying the role of a gutless, Pro-BigGuv'ment Obamabot minion.

Keep doing what yer doing, Sammy, it is proving quite instructive fer all the Lurkers...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-27   20:27:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#352. To: buckeroo (#349)

"I am going to look for your posts from now on."

You always have, my bad-breathed minion...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-27   20:28:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#353. To: Samuel Gray (#350)

"...yer literally too stupid to insult"

Hmmm...you lost me, you quick-witted stud...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-27   20:30:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#354. To: Samuel Gray (#350)

"you'll keep writing"

Durn tootin'...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-27   20:31:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#355. To: Mudboy Slim (#354)

I misspoke when I dignified what you do with the term "writing."

Insofar as a monkey throwing shit at a blank canvas may be termed 'art', then what you do may be termed 'writing.'

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-02-27   20:35:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#356. To: Samuel Gray (#345)

If you look really closely at the Declaration, you'll see where Thomas Jefferson had crossed out "I (heart) freedom", then replaced it with the text we know now.

That stocking wearing sissy? Why isn't he over in Iraq keeping my streets safe from false flag operations?

“we were respected as the most disinterested and charitable nation in the world.” - Robert A. Taft

Dakmar  posted on  2010-02-27   20:44:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#357. To: Dakmar (#356)

That stocking wearing sissy? Why isn't he over in Iraq keeping my streets safe from false flag operations?

LOL


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-02-27   20:53:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#358. To: Dakmar (#356)

“we were respected as the most disinterested and charitable nation in the world.” - Robert A. Taft

In all honesty, if President Taft were alive today, he might be this year's winner of "The Biggest LOSER!!"...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-27   21:06:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#359. To: Samuel Gray (#355)

"I misspoke..."

Whiney Lib'ral Obamabot minions most usually do...no prob, we're used to it...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-27   21:07:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#360. To: Mudboy Slim (#358)

President Taft

LOL, can you drop everything you're doing and come to work for me rebuilding Chargers that were wrecked filming the original Dukes of Hazard series?

“we were respected as the most disinterested and charitable nation in the world.” - Robert A. Taft

Dakmar  posted on  2010-02-27   21:12:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#361. To: Mudboy Slim (#359)

Ah, you're a student of the yuklown school of quoting things out of their proper context and hoping it passes as witty riposte. Tell yukie this brand new joke: "what does Mrs. Yukon wear to dinner? Depends..." He'll understand.

One world view (yours) has it that anyone who thinks you are a fucking retard and your song parodies suck is an "Obamabot".

Occam's Razor tells us that the more likely answer is, in fact, that you are a fucking retard and your song parodies suck. It really is the simplest theory that explains all the data.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-02-27   21:17:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#362. To: Dakmar (#360)

"...can you drop everything you're doing?!!"

Shore 'nuff, I do it all the time...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-27   21:45:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#363. To: Samuel Gray, Badeye (#361)

"...anyone who thinks you are a fucking retard and your song parodies suck is an "Obamabot"."

No, I clearly said that YOU are a braindead pro-BigGuv'ment "Obamabot"...but my buddy Badeye thinks my parodies are a silly waste of time and he's a full- fledged patriot...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-27   21:48:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#364. To: Mudboy Slim (#363)

Badeye likes you and yukon is trying to sell you solar panels. You hang with a shitty crowd and it reinforces the fact that you are a lowlife.

Cappy, on the other hand, loathes you, and that's about the final verdict on you.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-02-27   21:51:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#365. To: Samuel Gray, CAPPSMADNESS (#364)

"Cappy...loathes you..."

Yeah, sure, she'll tell you that, but I know our friend better than YOU do.

Deep down, Cappy digs...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-27   22:17:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#366. To: Samuel Gray (#364)

"...that's about the final verdict on you."

LOL...HOO died and made YOU final verdict declarer-in-chief?!

SammyGee, U R a HOOt. BTW...tell yer butt-buddy "war" that MUD said, "Howdy!!"

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-27   22:20:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#367. To: Samuel Gray, Jethro Tull, christine (#361)

"...witty riposte."

Honestly, when I'm on my game, HOO's better at it than...MUD?!

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-27   22:22:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#368. To: Mudboy Slim (#327)

Sorry, y'all, but yer "LOGIC" don't make a lick o' sense...MUD

You sound "lonely" but worse you have less and less reason to support a rogue STATE that is intent upon attacking its own.

The neo-con approach to life and liberty isn't compatible with humanity but appears to be a unilateral war wherein Americans are worked like inmates at a German Concentration Camp until worn out, used up and finally disposed of.

The irony is that people that are both gullible and over-optimistic (I don't really want to say stupid) may survive awhile longer than those expressing dismay, but they too will wind up face down in a pool of their own excrement.

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-28   8:51:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#369. To: Mudboy Slim (#367) (Edited)

Honestly, when I'm on my game, HOO's better at it...?

Even at the top of your 'game', Trig Palin could beat you. The eggplant formerly known as Yukon's wife could run circles around you (well, metaphorically, anyway). A common fern...you get the idea.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-02-28   12:17:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#370. To: Artisan (#0)

Debra Medina, new star of America's right, is firing up the race for Texas governor | World news | The Observer

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#371. To: noone222 (#368)

"...people that are both gullible and over-optimistic (I don't really want to say stupid) may survive awhile longer than those expressing dismay, but they too will wind up face down in a pool of their own excrement."

Wanna bet? Some of US are simply far tougher than the ChickenLittles...whiney RATS really have NO CHANCE against US...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-28   18:07:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#372. To: Samuel Gray (#369)

"Trig Palin could beat you."

Perhaps...but even a braindead RAT-MORON like you has gotta gree it's gonna be mighty fulfilling to see young Trig grow into a man while living at the White House...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-28   18:09:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#373. To: Mudboy Slim (#372)

living at the White House

Not gonna happen, pud-boy. I realize that's whack material for your ilk, but like banging Caribou Barbie herself, it's a fantasy you won't realize.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-02-28   18:16:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#374. To: Mudboy Slim (#372)

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

You obviously suffer two personalities ... one libertarian and the other neo- conFUSED.

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-28   18:23:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#375. To: Samuel Gray, noone222, Rotara (#373)

"Rockin' Cave!!"
(To be sung to the Band's "Rockin' Chair")

Hang around, silly BO!!
Don't you raise RATS' wails anymore?!
That's fer sure...Right's spent our whole lives achievin'!!
Cap'n's pushin' age seventy three...
Cave's the only MUD place singin' "Liberty!!"

Folks, Mudboy's home again...
Down in old Virginny!!
With my very best friends...
We're singin', "RATS are silly!!"
We're spreadin' TRUTH, RATS say, "Patriots are WEIRD!!"
Right's gonna sweep away all of Left's fears...
Ol' Slim's Rockin' Cave shall be laid bare!!

Vote NOW, Patriots!!
OUR HEARTS' gonna WHUP Dem Marxist TOOLS!!
It's true...and I believe MUD knows what we should do.
Right the stern...Defeat Left's WHORE'd...
RATS' TYRANNY shan't bury US no more!!

Folks, Mudboy's home again...
Down in ol' Virginny!!
With my very best friends...
We're singin', "RATS are silly!!"
Right, don't wait, let Left dispair!!
Dip'n SKOAL, MUD don't have no cares!!
Ol' Slim's Rockin' Cave...VOTE MUD fer Mayor!! ;)

Hear our sounds, feel our joy...
MUD's beatin Limbaugh to the green!!
That's MUD's belief...
The TRUTH is, "Barry LIES!!"
Church Hill's MUD's dream to Right!!
Every day that remains, fight the GoodFight!!

Folks, Mudboy's home again...
Down in ol' Virginny...
With my very best friends...
We're singin', "RATS are silly!!"
Gonna be nice just t'see good folks...
Listen, my friends...GanjahBarry SMOKES!! :smokin:
Ol' Slim's Rockin' Cave knows life ain't fair!!

Right must hear Founders, "Save Liberty!!"
Still, you know where MUD wantsta be...
YO Barry, can't you dig MUD's sound?!
Down In Old Virginny...
Gotta git our Country's feet back on the ground!!
Power DEVOLVED to many...
And I'd love to see my very best friends...
We'll rock Dem Lib'rals silly!!
I believe MUD's Rockin' Cave's taught me...

Mudboy Slim (28 February 2010)...)8^D!!

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-02-28   20:51:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#376. To: Mudboy Slim (#315)

"Would you grant permission to release personal information about your pathetic existence right here on the Internets ?" Please do, you skanky bitch...MUD

My legal counsel said that if I do dump your file, the odds of you being offed (which really doesn't bother me too much) in the near future go up dramatically, and in turn, would create issues that I don't need over a small fry repubican Zioboy-butt-sucker such as you.

BTW, you should know a thing or two about SKANKS, shouldn't you Mud ? The information about your most recent SKANK I found particularly hilarious...LOL

One more thing, is it hard to post for the RNCFR while boteye is riding your little pony ?


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-03-01   13:49:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#377. To: Rotara (#376)

"My legal counsel said..."

BWAHAHAHAHA!! Yer so full KRAP, yer eyes are brown...LOL!!

Yer in over yer head, li'l girl...go nip at somebody else's ankles...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-01   15:30:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#378. To: Mudboy Slim (#377)

maybe i'm just keeping you for my own list...when it's open season on NEOCON Traitor partisan hacks ? has that crossed your pea-sized brain, pudbot ?


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-03-01   15:47:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#379. To: Mudboy Slim (#377)

Yer in over yer head, li'l girl...go nip at somebody else's ankles...MUD

IsraelPost.org just in case you can't find your way back.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-03-01   15:54:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#380. To: Rotara, buckeroo (#378) (Edited)

"NEOCON Traitor partisan hacks"

LOL...there ya go. Please ask--no, BEG--yer "legal counsel" to allow you the freedom to SPILL THE BEANS on ol' MUD. Really, ma'am, yer quite the drama queen, ain't ya?! Please, though, USE ALL EVIDENCE in yer employ to get the Truth out about this rascally "pudbot" character...LOL!!

NEOCON?! WTF?! I ain't even Jewish...and I've been a solid ReaganConservative since I started paying attention to politics in the late-70's-early-80's. R U gonna EXPOSE the TRUTH about THAT, li'l Ms. Sourpuss?!

Partisan?! More WTF?! I've contributed money and sweat to the Libertarian Party, the Constitution Party, AND the Republican Party (not to mention the 7-8 TeaParty events I've attended in the last 12 months), but I've officially been an Independent ever since 2002, when I rejected the RINO Jawn Warner's Senatorial candidacy and led a not-too-successful (lol) write-in candidacy fer Ollie North (hey, I got to meet Ollie in person, he's alright in my book)...expose THAT!!

And "Traitor"? Reckon that's all in the eye of the beholder, ain't it?! I have NEVER undermined the U.S. Constitution nor the Country that magical document blesses every day, I CAN tell you that.

But "hack"? Whatever...I never said I was going professional at this. I'm a licensed Architect and small-scale residential Real Estate Developer here in Richmond, Virginny, the Capital of the Confederacy.

Deal with it...MUD

BTW...is it really true what bucky PM'd me about you two having some ongoing "TORRID love affair" (bucky's words)?!! Girl, I have met our mutual friend and unless you are really OLDE and unattractive, I wouldda thought you couldda set yer sights a bit higher...heh heh heh.

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-01   16:44:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#381. To: Rotara (#379)

"...in case you can't find your way back."

Appreciate it, but I never have a problem gettin' where I need to git.

Just follow the civility rules, ma'am, and you, TOO, can post wherever you want, whenever you want, just like...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-01   16:49:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#382. To: Rotara (#376)

"...the odds of you being offed"

Well, if you'd been doing yer research, you'd already known why many folks consider me to be a sorta Jason Bourne character in real life, so you needn't worry yer apparently not-so-pretty head over this. MUD can take care of himself...and then some.

But it really is nice of you to consider my physical safety as you SPEW empty Cyber-Threats, you silly girl...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-01   16:54:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#383. To: Rotara (#376)

"...your most recent SKANK"

Since I've been FAITHFULLY-married to the same woman since July 31, 1993, I reckon that li'l jab was aimed at my wife.

Whatever...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-01   16:56:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#384. To: Mudboy Slim (#380)

Can't find another 2-bit skank to cover for your homosexual endeavors, mudpacker ?

Don't have another RIDICULOUS 'song parody' to spam the Internets with ?

Get a fucking job you loser...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-03-01   16:58:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#385. To: Rotara (#371)

"...whiney RATS really have NO CHANCE against US...MUD"

See what I mean, Ankle-Biter?!

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-01   16:59:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#386. To: Mudboy Slim, buckeroo (#380)

I'm not the least bit surprised that you two have a 'backdoor' love affair going on...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-03-01   16:59:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#387. To: Mudboy Slim (#385)

The most ironic part is that YOU are the fucking NEOCON-NEOCOMMIE RAT jizz guzzler...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-03-01   17:01:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#388. To: Rotara, buckeroo (#384)

"Get a fucking job you loser..."

Tee hee hee...seriously, Bucky and Rotara, sittin' in a tree...K-I-S-S-I-N-G!!

Bwahahahahahaha...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-01   17:01:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#389. To: Rotara (#387)

"NEOCON-NEOCOMMIE RAT jizz guzzler..."

Heh heh heh..."jizz guzzler", eh? You do got some SKANK in ya, dont'cha girl?!

Isn't this fun, my friend?!

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-01   17:03:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#390. To: Mudboy Slim (#388)

You two have fun...I have serious things to do like: go to the beach, then come home and jump in the pool, followed by laughing at your faggot ass (having a wife isn't working as cover, mudpacker) and eating a fine piece of WAHOOOOOO...seriously, go find a job.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-03-01   17:04:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#391. To: Mudboy Slim (#389)

I'm having a blast slimpudsucker, but now I have to go onto more important things.

have a nice day and then choke on a pretzel or hot dog...ehehe


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-03-01   17:05:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#392. To: Rotara (#384)

"Don't have another RIDICULOUS 'song parody' to spam the Internets with?"

Excellent idea, my friend...lemme go and put the finishing touches on my latest masterpiece and I'll be back in a Jif...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-01   17:05:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#393. To: Rotara, ALL (#392)

Sorry it took so long...here ya go...more EVIDENCE...LOL!!

BTW...on cue, SQUEEEAL like stuck pigs, Lib'ral RAT Obamabots!!

"Quirky Kinda Dude!!"
(To be sung to the Eagles' "Certain Kind Of Fool")

MUD was a bold boy, raised in a strong family...
This Country is worth saving...we're hopin' folks LOVE Liberty!!
RATS say that MUD is crazy...
MUD's Right, but Dem Statists are FREAKS!!
MUD drove on up to DeeCee and challenged Left's PowerElites!!
Righteous shall STAND, oh yeah...
MUD wants to sing, oh yeah...
I want to see the RightWing dancin'...
Folks, listen to ol' Mudboy's dreams!!

MUD heard it on Rush Limbaugh...
Dem Marxists wanna screw up OUR Land!!
RATS got the Nation reeling...Left's whinin' but Truth is Left's BAD!!
MUD's singin' fer OUR Country...he's practiced fer years without rest!!
And then one day MUD knew it...
MUD knew he would stand 'gainst the Left!!

RATS get respect, oh yeah...
MUD wants the same, oh yeah...
And it's a quirky kind of dude who...
Likes to sing the sound of his screen name!!
Ooo...

MUD's postin' on six Forums...he's singin' all accross OUR Land!!
He's earned a reputation...spreading the Truth, "Defeat TheMan!!"
It wasn't fer the money...DemFreaks, they shall be made to PAY!!
Left thinks that MUD is funnin'...but watch BigGuv'ment fade away!!

Mudboy Slim (1 March 2010)

BTW...seriously, my friends, if I had to go and get a REEEAL job, when would I find the time to do THIS?!

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-01   17:26:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#394. To: Rotara (#391)

"have a nice day"

Backatcha, my li'l dumplin'...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-01   17:29:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#395. To: Rotara (#390)

"I have serious things to do like: go to the beach, then come home and jump in the pool..."

How was the dip, sweetcheeks?!

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-01   19:24:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#396. To: Rotara, Funky Dan, Ferret Mike (#395) (Edited)

BTW...while you were out sunbathing, woman, I penned another classic...

At the risk of looking far-too-self-serving, we'll call this one...

"Mudboy Slim!!"
(To be sung to the Eagles' "Outlaw Man")

Right lives by God's law...I was born to confront SCUM!!
The righteous fight 'gainst Tyranny...
Fer the RightWing, I'll play "MUD"!!
In one hand, Right reads Bibles...
In the other, we've got our guns!!
RATS, git to know me...I'm America's son!!

Patriots, you can trust me...
Trust me, MUD understands!!
One life lived proud and bold, that's the life of ol' Mudboy Slim!!

Just left my woman, she was naggin' night and day!!
Voted fer BO Obama...she rejected RightWing ways!!
Some of my friends LOVE Barry...
RATS seldom ever KNOW!!
Awake to Guv'ment's danger...
'Cuz Left steals hearts and souls!!
Lib'rals, just come and hug me...
Networks shall understand...
MUD's life it shall unfold...it's the life of a Redskin fan!!
Ooo....

(Sweet Syntaurs freakjam breaks out...)

Statists, don't try to schmoooze me...
Have y'all met "Funky Dan"?
One guy fightin' RAT-HO's...THAT's the life of ol' Mudboy Slim!!

Lib'rals call MUD "KRAAAY-ZEE"!!
DemRATS are INSANE!!
Marxists call MUD "sinner", Lord...
Mudboy know he AIN'T!!

Mudboy prays to Jesus!!
Jesus, Barry ain't!!
Briefers got no time to lose...
MORE BigGuv'ment's plumb INSANE!!
Outlaw man!!
Funky Dan!!
Mudboy Slim!!

Mudboy Slim (1 March 2010)

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-01   19:36:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#397. To: Rotara (#390)

"I have serious things to do like: go to the beach, then come home and jump in the pool..."

Ohhh, you must be all wrinkled up like a prune by now, sugartush...please come back in, dry off, and...

EXPOSE MUD'S HYPOCRISY!! (C'mon girl, these dudes suck...lol!!)

Anticipatory regards...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-01   21:01:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#398. To: All (#397)

398...

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-01   21:01:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#399. To: All (#398)

399...

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-01   21:02:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#400. To: Mudboy Slim (#396)

Why don't I have you on bozo?

Oh well, at least that's easily fixed.

JRiggs  posted on  2010-03-01   21:02:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#401. To: Rotara (#399)

Four hunnerd, schnook'ems...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-01   21:03:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#402. To: JRiggs (#400)

Heh heh heh...indeed it is, Ms. Riggs...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-01   21:04:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#403. To: Barry Hussein Soetoro Obama, Kenyan Ken, The RAT-Messiah (#402)

"LEGALIZE IT, BARRY!!"

(It's the ONLY thing that can save the RATS in November...lol!!)

Barry's the cooolest POTUS ever, dude...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-01   21:46:31 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#404. To: JRiggs (#400)

"Why don't I have you on bozo?"

'Cuz yer SCAIR'T, ma'am...I understand...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-01   21:48:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#405. To: JRiggs (#400)

"#401. To: Rotara (#399)

Four hunnerd, schnook'ems...MUD"

BTW...ma'am, THAT wasn't very polite...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-01   21:50:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#406. To: Rotara, Minerva, James Deffenbach, Dakmar, Jethro Tull, buckeroo, ferret mike, turtle, Cynicom (#405)

"RightWing's Passionate!!"
(To be sung to Neil Young's "Are You Passionate?")

RightWing's passionate!!
Mudboy's livin' like he talks...
Righteous dreamin' now!!
Syntaurs goin' to the top!!
RATS are negative...
Love fer Guv'ment never stops!!
Learn it, you FOOLS!!
Yearn Liberty!!
Lib'rals are TOOLS!!

Ain't YOU loving it?!
RATS shall never git enuff of Slim!!
Truth is everything...
Folks, Mudboy never stops!!
Come learn the Truth!!
Freedom AIN'T free!!
Help teach our YOUTH!!

Fight on, righteous soldiers...
Folks enlightened 'cuz we're Right!!
And ol' Mudboy kept singin', "Liberty!!"
Guv'ment GROWS until it KILLS US!!
Patriots, let yer MESSAGE fly!!
Right rejects Lib'ral SCUM...
RATS are NOT free!!

(The BigMan playin' his guitar awful purty...)

Welfare makes folks prisoners...
Mudboy's working from his truck...
Cleaned up fer public display.
MUD looks at those around me...
And shares that, "We're all free..."
MUD lets you see his soul ev'ry day!!

Are you SCAIR'T of MUD?
Do you wish that Slim would stop?
Does Truth bother you?!
Do you LIKE when you are mocked?!
Folks, MUD's ripe with Truth!!
Gotta fight Dem FOOLS!!
MUD's working fer FREE!!
I'm sportin' the Truth!!
Let's WHUP Tyranny!!

Take US home, BigMan...

Mudboy Slim (1 March 2010)

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-01   23:57:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#407. To: All (#406)

The Mudboy spameth.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2010-03-02   0:21:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#408. To: wudidiz (#407)

And not just on this one Forum, either...heh heh heh.

Left's got no defense fer a righteous man with a RightWing Plan, dude...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-02   0:40:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#409. To: wudidiz (#407)

"The Mudboy spameth."

BTW...does not the oft-under-utilized word, "spameth", containeth double-mm's?

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-02   1:07:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#410. To: Samuel Gray, war (#369)

"Even at the top of your 'game', Trig Palin could beat you."

Well, yeah, sure, but that's 'cuz Trig's cute as a button...and everybody knows that "cute as a button" WHUPS ornery and ideologically-astute every time it's tried.

Too bad fer Barry Hussein, though, "cute as a button" wears off purty durned fast sometimes...MUD

BTW...hey SammyGee, Y don't U call me "Nudge" like yer butt-buddy/partner "war" does?

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-02   1:30:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#411. To: Mudboy Slim (#408)

And not just on this one Forum, either...heh heh heh.

Left's got no defense fer a righteous man with a RightWing Plan, dude...MUD

Has it ever occurred to you that just maybe you're overdoing it with the left vs. right thing? Like maybe it's an obsession and the whole world cannot simply be divided into left vs. right?

That and most of the posters here are probably leaning right anyway.

I look forward to your deep, meaningful answer.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2010-03-02   1:35:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#412. To: Mudboy Slim (#409)

BTW...does not the oft-under-utilized word, "spameth", containeth double-mm's?

I standdeth correcteded.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2010-03-02   1:37:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#413. To: buckeroo (#329)

"Yeah...that's what they all say."

Actually Bucky, they don't all say that...then again, yer obviously DRUNK AGAIN!!

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-02   1:38:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#414. To: wudidiz (#411)

"Has it ever occurred to you that just maybe you're overdoing it with the left vs. right thing?"

Nope.

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-02   1:39:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#415. To: Mudboy Slim (#414)

Don't change a thing.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2010-03-02   1:44:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#416. To: Mudboy Slim (#414)

Do you still seriously believe that there's a difference between the democrats and the republicans? Thought you would have wised up by now Mud.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-03-02   1:44:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#417. To: Rotara (#287)

"I know EVERYTHING about you..."

Oh yes you do, my little SKANK...still, wouldn't it be funner fer the Lurkers if you shared some of this juicy gossip you allegedly have?

BTW...that Black teddy looks sooo HOT on you. Oh yes, you know how MUD likes it...LOL!!

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-02   1:48:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#418. To: Rotara (#277)

"[Rotara has a]...strong desire in me to bitch slap you until you cry like a little gurl."

You DO know how I like it, my SKANKY li'l RAT-minion...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-02   1:50:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#419. To: FormerLurker (#416) (Edited)

"Do you still seriously believe that there's a difference between the democrats and the republicans?"

Don't be silly, FL, of course there is...heck, "there's a difference between..." each and every Senator, each and every Congresscritter. Each of us can only do so much to influence how our elected leaders legislate, but it's pretty much our duty to do whatever we can, no matter how insignificant it may appear at the time. But do I think all GOPers are good? LOL...of course not. As an ex-GOPer, I've felt the sting of the Republicans' long knives in my back on many an occasion. Now, I'm all about focusing on particular politicos and making sure they know who I am and what I'm passionate about.

Keep an eye on my Congresscritter, Eric Cantor...he'll make an excellent SpeakerOfTheHouse come next January...MUD

BTW...also, Bob McDonnell may turn out to be a really decent Governor of Virginia if he keeps heeding my counsel...LOL!!

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-02   1:57:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#420. To: Artisan (#0)

BTW...HOO the HECK's Debra Medina?!

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-02   2:01:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#421. To: Mudboy Slim, FormerLurker (#419)

Don't be silly, FL, of course there is...heck, "there's a difference between..." each and every Senator, each and every Congresscritter. Each of us can only do so much to influence how our elected leaders legislate, but it's pretty much our duty to do whatever we can, no matter how insignificant it may appear at the time. But do I think all GOPers are good? LOL...of course not. As an ex-GOPer, I've felt the sting of the Republicans' long knives in my back on many an occasion. Now, I'm all about focusing on particular politicos and making sure they know who I am and what I'm passionate about.

mudbot, you keep confusing the path with the destination, they each take a sightly different path to the same destination global-socialism. like any of them care about your passions, the form letters should be a give away.


computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-03-02   3:57:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#422. To: Artisan (#0)

what is the opposite of a '9/11 truther', a '911 liar'?

Itistoolate  posted on  2010-03-02   5:32:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#423. To: Itistoolate (#422)

the believers of the fairy tale told by baalzabush prefer the more politically correct term factaphobic.


computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-03-02   5:58:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#424. To: IRTorqued (#423)

Few months before 911 Wolfowitz gave a chilling speech at west point. It was all doom and gloom. It sounded strange. I recently acquired a copy of the speech and I do not know what to make of it.

Wolfowitz chilling speech

Itistoolate  posted on  2010-03-02   6:28:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#425. To: IRTorqued (#421)

"...you keep confusing the path with the destination, they each take a sightly different path to the same destination global-socialism."

Not ALL of them, imho...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-02   7:22:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#426. To: Itistoolate (#424)

the speech is a typical "I got this secret that's got me giddy as a school, how to share the joy of the secret without letting everyone in on the actual secret". metaphors and analogies sprinkled with twisted history to maintain a sense of plausible deniability. the pratt house had been working on their plan that became 9/11 for decades. for nearly 10 years now the politicians believe all they need to do to push through another power grab is invoke 9/11. the truely sad part is that the same fools who believe the RNCFR and the DNCFR are at odds with each other fall for it every time.


computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-03-02   8:50:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#427. To: Mudboy Slim (#425)

bahala na bobo.


computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-03-02   8:52:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#428. To: Mudboy Slim (#410) (Edited)

Your posts are like foreskins, in that there's a dickhead behind each one.

I don't know war, don't know what 'nudge' means, don't care.

Based on your own words, maybe a good name for you would be Jason Stillbourne..would that it had been true. Your mom buried the baby in the backyard and the afterbirth lived.

It's a good thing the soil of Virginia is so hallowed by patriot blood else it would not survive the stain your presence there puts on it.

Oh, and an 'architect' too. Yeah, right. My fondest wish for you is that you get dragged balls-first into a wood chipper in front of the five people who love you the most, if there are that many.

Seriously, Christine, can you show this no-talent assclown the door? He posts the same shit at at least four places I can find and probably more that I can't. He's TLBShow, except stupider.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-03-02   15:56:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#429. To: Samuel Gray, christine, war, Jethro Tull (#428)

"Seriously, Christine, can you show this no-talent assclown the door?"

Well, I guess THAT's an improvement over a Newbie coming on the 4um and repeatedly calling for, wishing for, nay, BEGGING fer a fellow poster to be DEAD...LOL!! Christine, while we've got you here, is it common practice within the 4um ModSquad community for you to allow Newbies to come onto YOUR Forum spewing "DeathWishes" to a long-time poster who has always followed yer civility rules?

That's KEWL with you from now on? Just making sure that I know how the rules are being interpreted these days...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-03   5:58:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#430. To: IRTorqued (#427)

"bahala na bobo."

Perhaps, IRT, but not on Wednesdays...especially NOT in MARCH.

Regards...MUD

BTW...do U remember what happened on 3 March?!

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-03   6:01:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#431. To: IRTorqued, EricC (#421)

"...like any of them care about your passions, the form letters should be a give away."

Dude, the next Speaker-of-the-House (EricC) knows my kids names, and when he shakes my hand, he looks me in the eye, sorta grins, and asks, "How're you doin', MUD?!" and I reply, "You know me...never better!!"

If you are such a gutless PUSSY that you can't get the attention of yer elected representatives, shame on you.

I don't have that sorta problem...Slim's got cajones.

Regards...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-03   6:08:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#432. To: christine (#428)

"Oh, and an 'architect' too. Yeah, right. My fondest wish for you is that you get dragged balls-first into a wood chipper in front of the five people who love you the most, if there are that many."

YooHOOO, christine...THIS is the sorta stuff you like yer Newbies to SPEW?! Just wondering...wouldn't want folks to start thinking you SUPPORT this sorta hate speech, unless of course, YOU DO...LOL!!

Hope all is well with you and yers...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-03   6:13:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#433. To: Samuel Gray (#428)

"I don't know war..."

LOL...yeah, riiight. And I'll bet you never used a different screen name on this Forum or others, either...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-03   7:54:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#434. To: wudidiz (#411)

I look forward to your deep, meaningful answer.

Good one, what it. Very good indeed.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-03-03   9:55:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#435. To: Mudboy Slim (#432)

Aww, Mr. Anti-Leviathan likes the first amendment but hides behind it when he gets his fee-fees hurt, yet virtually demands his 'right' to spam six forums with his tedious bullshit. (Hint: 1st Amendment only applies to Congress, not me.)

"Hate speech?" Isn't that the perennial whine of the "librul rats"? Pud, I think you're a closet leftist (among other closet things). Talk about hate speech, that awful shit you write should be prohibited by law.

Sure I wish you were dead, who doesn't? You're crap, you write crap, world's got enough crap, you wouldn't be missed.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-03-03   20:10:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#436. To: James Deffenbach, SammieGee, war (#434)

Y'all still jabberin' on about NUTHIN?! Sheeesh...some of US work fer a living...

"Patriot Mudboy's RightWing Tune!!"
(To be sung to Arlo Guthrie's "Gabriel's Mother's Highway Ballad #16!!")

Folks, heed my warning, Guv'ment Debt HURTS this Land...
Come on, children, come on...
Algore was bawlin', "Yer killin' my Plan!!"
Come on, children, come on...

Mudboy knows...Truth must be told!!
Come on, Limbaugh, come on...
Dem RAT-FREAKS keep spendin'...Right must be BOLD!!
Come on, Glenn Beck, come on...

Come on, Patriots, let's be BOLD!!
Freedom's gonna make US well!!
WeThePeople, RAT-Elites MUST GO!!
Vote Dem Statists straight to HELL!!

(BigMan pickin' it purty...)

Well, my kids grow'd up...folks, it don't take long...
Come on, Jessie, come on...
Family life is swell...let dad sing his songs!!
Come on, Jakey, play drums...

Come on, RightWing, welcome home!!
Briefers gonna treat you swell!!
WeThePeople, righteous Right must VOTE!!
Waco's where KIDZ blood was spil't!!

Come on, Patriots, let MUD sing...
WHUP Dem Lib'rals, it's FUN!!
All Americans gotta fancy FREE!!
Come on, Clinton, yer done!!

ALL TeaParties oughtta sing 'gainst Power!!
Come on, FReepers, come on...
Left's got nobody 'round, MUD done whupped RATS' butts!!
Come on, Briefers, come on...

One of these days, 'fore Lincoln's Stair...
Come on, Martin, come on...
Syntaurs gonna sing...watch DemRATS dispair!!
Abe be likin' MUD's songs!!

Heed the FoundingFathers...Power's best dispursed!!
Run on, Marxists, run on...
Can't make a Heaven while on this Earth!!
Run on, Statists, run on...

Come on, pod'nahs, let's be BOLD!!
Freedom's gonna make US well!!
WeThePeople, Socialism's OLDE!!
Tell RINOs to go to HELL!!

Mudboy's gonna treat you well!!
RATS know Kenyan Barry's leading US to HELL!!
Freedom's gonna make US well!!
Mmmm..MUD's gonna ring that bell!!

Mudboy Slim (3 March 2010)

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-03   23:22:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#437. To: Mudboy Slim (#431)

Slim's got cajones.

sure mudbot does, on mudbot's chin.


computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-03-03   23:26:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#438. To: wudidiz, Mudboy Slim, all (#411)

And not just on this one Forum, either...heh heh heh.

Left's got no defense fer a righteous man with a RightWing Plan, dude...MUD

Has it ever occurred to you that just maybe you're overdoing it with the left vs. right thing? Like maybe it's an obsession and the whole world cannot simply be divided into left vs. right?

That and most of the posters here are probably leaning right anyway.

I look forward to your deep, meaningful answer.



Got Hip Boots?


"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-03-04   2:27:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#439. To: Original_Intent (#438)

And not just on this one Forum, either...heh heh heh. Left's got no defense fer a righteous man with a RightWing Plan, dude...MUD

Has it ever occurred to you that just maybe you're overdoing it with the left vs. right thing? Like maybe it's an obsession and the whole world cannot simply be divided into left vs. right?

That and most of the posters here are probably leaning right anyway.

I look forward to your deep, meaningful answer.

The long term posters on this forum are mature adults for the most part and have outgrown their youthful need for a hand out to be educated or trained to gain employment. Most have established themselves and may have forgotten when they too were a little more socialist. I suppose that's normal.

I believe that many of us that call ourselves "conservative" underestimate the dire conditions many young people have been exposed to because of the low life Cock"roaches" in D.C., the banks and Wall Street.

Not only have many young families been coaxed (taxed) into taking on super mortgages, they are being taxed now to supply funding for other nations that were fucked by our Wall Street and Banking slime.

The left/right paradigm will become a moot point when the inner cities are out of food, ATMs quit, military and police forces are everywhere bearing automatic weapons, and single mom's find themselves incapable of protecting their children from rapists, looters, and murderers.

Things have changed drastically since my youth, when a 12 year old kid could deliver newspapers in the darkness without much concern about being harmed. Those days are gone forever and desparate times will magnify the worst characteristics of humans, making it difficult to distinguish them from animals.

People that haven't spent any time in a war zone haven't got a clue how nasty things can get. Unimaginable things occur in extreme circumstances, and the last fucking thing that makes a shittin bit of difference is "left/right" bullshit ... reality takes on more of a "life/death" paradigm.

When things go upside down completely there will be two classes alright, the unprepared, hungry, takers/murderers and those that have prepared and will serve as protectors.

The truth is that we are being "DRIVEN" like cattle into an international shit storm CREATED by bankers and money manipulators working for the most vile filth infesting planet earth. The salient point is "THIS AIN'T NO FREAK ACCIDENT" ... THIS IS WELL PLANNED ... and HAS BEEN CARRIED OUT BY LEFT AND RIGHT WORKING HAND IN HAND.

I find it difficult to believe but it's happening. The world and its resources are being held hostage by bankers/brokers that actually do nothing but live off of the labor and inventiveness of others, through their manipulation of credit, paper currency, and computer generated digital wealth. It's a magic act being perpetrated with the assistance of governments worldwide. They make laws that camoflauge economic rape behind a cloak of respectability.

There are no bad targets out there. Media, Banking elite, political parasites, corporate leaders ... all have become the enemies of the masses, regardless of their political leanings.

When the moment of decision arrives, "Kill em all and let God sort em out" !!!

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-03-04   3:45:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#440. To: noone222, Original_Intent (#439)

...when the inner cities are out of food, ATMs quit, military and police forces are everywhere bearing automatic weapons, and single mom's find themselves incapable of protecting their children from rapists, looters, and murderers...

I don't think it's gonna come to that. I hope I'm right.


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2010-03-04   4:02:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#441. To: wudidiz (#440)

I don't think it's gonna come to that. I hope I'm right.

Me three ... hope for the best ... prepare for the worst.

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-03-04   4:04:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#442. To: Original_Intent, Rotara, SammieGee (#438)

Heh heh heh...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-04   6:07:52 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#443. To: Mudboy Slim (#442)

Is that one of your favorite scenes from Brokeback Mountain Mud?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-03-04   7:14:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#444. To: FormerLurker (#443)

Hardy har har, FL...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-04   8:38:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#445. To: wudidiz (#411)

"...the whole world cannot simply be divided into left vs. right?"

Sure it can, I do it constantly...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-04   8:40:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#446. To: Samuel Gray (#435)

"Talk about hate speech, that awful shit you write should be prohibited by law."

Waaahhh...go whine to yer Congresscritter, RAT-minion...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-04   9:48:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#447. To: Mudboy Slim, wudidiz, all (#445)

"...the whole world cannot simply be divided into left vs. right?"

Sure it can, I do it constantly...MUD

Thus demonstrating your brilliance at avoiding the apparent and failing to comprehend the obvious.

Or as Abraham Lincoln put it: "Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it a leg."

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-03-04   13:31:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#448. To: Original_Intent (#447)

"Thus demonstrating your brilliance..."

Thanks, O_I, I think that mightta been the nicest thing you've ever posted to me...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-04   14:27:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#449. To: noone222 (#441)

"hope for the best ... prepare for the worst."

It's really all we can do...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-04   14:28:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#450. To: All (#449)

Four fitty...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-04   15:16:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#451. To: Original_Intent (#447)

"...failing to comprehend the obvious."

Please enlighten me, my friend, which obviousness is MUD failing to comprehend?

A serious answer would be appreciated...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-04   19:32:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#452. To: IRTorqued, war, meguro (#437)

More homophobic locker room banter from the Obamabots, I see...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-04   19:35:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#453. To: Samuel Gray, Rotara, buckeroo, war (#435)

"Pud, I think you're a closet leftist..."

No, you don't...you know full well HOO I am...and yer SCAIR'T!!

Yer SCAIR'T the fascists/Marxists/Lib'rals/Progressives/Statists you have aligned yerself with will LOSE!! And you will be left high and dry, with no source of income, 'cuz yer a RAT-TROLL LOSER!!

It's obvious to anyone with the ability--and desire--to read this thread.

I sincerely hope you stick around, but I fully expect you will slink off into anonymity, abandoning the irreparably-soiled screen name--"SammieGee"-- and probably end up apologizing to MUD fer yer utter IGNORANCE before it's all said and done...MUD

BTW...have you met Rotara?! She's bucky's love slave (according to him...lol!!)

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-04   19:44:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#454. To: Original_Intent, SammieGee, war, Rotara (#447)

"Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it a leg."

A RAT is a RAT is a RAT...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-04   19:47:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#455. To: Samuel Gray (#435)

"Sammie Gee!!"

Heh heh heh...my oh my, this IS an honor, young grasshopper...

Developing...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-04   20:20:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#456. To: Samuel Gray (#455)

See there, SammieGee...now yer FAMOUS!!

LOL...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-04   22:06:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#457. To: Mudboy Slim (#456) (Edited)

apologizing to MUD

The cave called, they want their batshit back.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-03-05   9:11:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#458. To: Samuel Gray (#457)

No apology necessary, SammieGee...you play nice and I'll play nice...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-05   14:20:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#459. To: Mudboy Slim (#458) (Edited)

If you interpreted that post as conciliatory in any way, you're even more delusional than a cursory examination of your usual drivel would indicate.

Calling you an idiot, telling you that your parodies suck donkey ass, and that you are a clownish buffoon who is not within light years of patriotism will continue unabated as I see fit.

I don't wish to "play" with you, nicely or in any other way. You disappear when I click the "X." I wouldn't recommend you making the poor choice to take it farther than the two dimensions of your screen.

Your idea of substantive rejoinders seems to be homosexual innuendo or using a diminutive form of my screen name (the man who actually owned it was a patriot and has been dead almost 200 years...he really doesn't care what you call him.) As discussions go, it's on par with yuktard ending every pejorative with the 'turd/tard' suffix.

One hopes that you do not cut corners in your "architecture business" as you do in your thought processes.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-03-05   14:47:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#460. To: Samuel Gray (#459)

"SammieGee!!"

Yer immortalized, dude...MUD

BTW...next move's yers...do you implode--and FADE AWAY--like so many RATS have done before you?

Or do you apologize to MUD and begin yer QuestFerWisdom?!! Yer choice, Grasshopper.

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-05   16:49:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#461. To: Samuel Gray, war (#459)

"I wouldn't recommend you making the poor choice to take it farther than the two dimensions of your screen."

LOL...is THAT a threat, you pansy-assed BITCH?!

Yer priceless, SammieGee, better than war EVER was...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-05   16:51:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#462. To: Mudboy Slim (#461) (Edited)

You'll just have to wonder, Pud. And I'm not fading away. I was here long before you and will be here long after.

You're not Jason Bourne and this ain't Hollywood.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-03-05   17:15:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#463. To: Samuel Gray, all (#462)

what is going on in this thread?

i was surprised to see it is still active 2 weeks later.?

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-03-06   2:03:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#464. To: Artisan (#463)

Mud hijacked it.


"Nonsense wakes up the brain cells. And it helps develop a sense of humor, which is awfully important in this day and age" ~ Dr. Suess

wudidiz  posted on  2010-03-06   2:16:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#465. To: wudidiz (#464)

eegads.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-03-06   2:45:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#466. To: Artisan, wudidiz, SammieGee (#465) (Edited)

"eegads."

My thoughts exactly...now, HOO the HECK is this "Debra Medina" character?

Heh heh heh...so, were ya talkin' about "Black XXXI", "Black XXXII", or "Black XXXIII"?!

Regards...MUD

BTW...gonna be sunny and 60+ here in Richmond today...gotta meet some folks to play DiscGolf at 0800.

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-06   6:04:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#467. To: Samuel Gray (#462)

"You're not Jason Bourne..."

LOL...well, of course not, JB's a fictional, made-up character...

I never said I AM Jason Bourne, it's just that a lotta folks tell me I remind them of Jason Bourne (and Mel Gibson's character, "Porter")...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-06   6:09:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#468. To: wudidiz, christine, SammieGee (#464)

"Mud hijacked it."

As Mud is wont to do...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-06   14:35:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#469. To: purplerose (#466)

"Patriot Mudboy's RightWing Tune!!"
(To be sung to Arlo Guthrie's "Gabriel's Mother's Highway Ballad #16!!")

Folks, heed my warning, Guv'ment Debt HURTS this Land...
Come on, children, come on...
Algore was bawlin', "Yer killin' my Plan!!"
Come on, children, come on...

Mudboy knows...Truth must be told!!
Come on, Limbaugh, come on...
Dem RAT-FREAKS keep spendin'...Right must be BOLD!!
Come on, Glenn Beck, come on...

Come on, Patriots, let's be BOLD!!
Freedom's gonna make US well!!
WeThePeople, RAT-Elites MUST GO!!
Vote Dem Statists straight to HELL!!

(BigMan pickin' it purty...)

Well, my kids grow'd up...folks, it don't take long...
Come on, Jessie, come on...
Family life is swell...let dad sing his songs!!
Come on, Jakey, play drums...

Come on, RightWing, welcome home!!
Briefers gonna treat you swell!!
WeThePeople, righteous Right must VOTE!!
Waco's where KIDZ blood was spil't!!

Come on, Patriots, let MUD sing...
WHUP Dem Lib'rals, it's FUN!!
All Americans gotta fancy FREE!!
Come on, Clinton, yer done!!

ALL TeaParties oughtta sing 'gainst Power!!
Come on, FReepers, come on...
Left's got nobody 'round, MUD done whupped RATS' butts!!
Come on, Briefers, come on...

One of these days, 'fore Lincoln's Stair...
Come on, Martin, come on...
Syntaurs gonna sing...watch DemRATS dispair!!
Abe be likin' MUD's songs!!

Heed the FoundingFathers...Power's best dispursed!!
Run on, Marxists, run on...
Can't make a Heaven while on this Earth!!
Run on, Statists, run on...

Come on, pod'nahs, let's be BOLD!!
Freedom's gonna make US well!!
WeThePeople, Socialism's OLDE!!
Tell RINOs to go to HELL!!

Mudboy's gonna treat you well!!
RATS know Kenyan Barry's leading US to HELL!!
Freedom's gonna make US well!!
Mmmm..MUD's gonna ring that bell!!

Mudboy Slim (3 March 2010)

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-06   19:13:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#470. To: Mudboy Slim (#469)

Very nice! Thanks, Mudboy Slim.

purplerose  posted on  2010-03-07   0:01:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#471. To: purplerose, goldilucky (#470)

De nada, mi hermana...please send goldilucky my regards...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-07   6:34:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#472. To: Rotara (#287) (Edited)

"I know EVERYTHING about you goofy."

No, sugarlips, you know only what I'VE told you...yer a powerless RAT-TROLL AIRHEAD!!

However, MUD has a history of teaching RATS even STOOOPIDER than you, so please stick around.

Sincerely...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-12   7:48:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#473. To: Rotara (#287)

"You're a cream puff sweetie..."

You know me so well, baby...you gonna wear that hot red teddy fer me again tonight? And this evening, I want you to keep yer 5" spiked heels ON...ALL NIGHT!!

Yowzah...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-12   7:53:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#474. To: All (#473)

Oh, this is gonna be messy....


"It has been said, 'time heals all wounds'. I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens. But it is never gone." ~ Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-03-12   8:01:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#475. To: Pookie, Dakmar, James Deffenbach, SammieGee, war, noone222, Cynicom, Jethro Tull, ferret mike, turtle (#473)

Gotta love it, Pookie...THAT is a KEEPER!!

The CoffeePartyUSA/Marxists/ObamaNation versus the TeaPartiers/U.S.Constitution/ANTI-ObamaNation!!

Pick a side, folks...WE'RE READY TO RUUUMMMBBBUUULLL!!

WooHOOO...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-12   8:02:27 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#476. To: wudidiz (#474)

Just remember, my friend, I didn't start it...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-12   8:03:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#477. To: purplerose, wudidiz, Reagan Man (#470)

A widely-circulated email from a co-worker...pass it on...

"THANK GOD FOR BARACK OBAMA!!"

"He destroyed the Clinton Political Machine - Driving a stake thru the heart of Hillary's Presidential aspirations - something no Republican was ever able to do. Remember when a Hillary Presidency scared the daylights out of you!

He killed off the Kennedy Dynasty - No more Kennedy's trolling Washington looking for booze and women wanting rides home. American women and Freedom are safer tonight!

He is destroying the Democratic Party before our eyes!

Dennis Moore had never lost a race - quit

Evan Bayh had never lost a race - quit

Byron Dorgan - had never lost a race - quit

Harry Reid - bid for re-election doesn't look good

These are just a handful of the Democrats whose political careers Obama has destroyed! By the end of 2010 dozens more will be!

In December of 2008 the Democrats were on the rise. In the last two election cycles they had picked up 14 senate seats and 52 house seats. The press was touting the death of the Conservative Movement and the Republican Party.

In one year Obama put a stop to all of this and will probably give the House, if not the Senate, back to the Republicans.

He has completely exposed liberals and progressives for what they are. Every Generation seems to need to relearn the lesson on why they should never actually put liberals in charge. He is bringing home the lesson very well!

Liberals tax, borrow and spend - check

Liberals won't bring themselves to protect America - check

Liberals want to take over the economy - check

Liberals think they know what is best for everyone - check

Liberals aren't happy till they are running YOUR life - check

He has brought more Americans back to conservatism than anyone since Reagan

In One year he rejuvenated the Conservative movement and brought out to the streets millions of Freedom Loving Americans

Name me one other time in your life that you saw your friends and neighbors this interested in taking back America!

In all honesty one year ago I was more afraid than I had ever been in my life. Not of the economy but of the direction our country was going. I thought Americans had forgotten what this country was all about. My neighbors, friends, strangers proved to me that my lack of confidence of the Greatness and Wisdom of the American people was flat out wrong.

When the American People wake up, no smooth talking teleprompter reader can fool them!

Barack Obama woke up these Great Americans

Again, I want say Thank You Barack Obama!"

WooHOOO!! The RAT-Messiah ROCKS...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-12   12:13:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#478. To: Mudboy Slim (#477)

I didn't vote for Obama. I wanted Tom Tancredo in office.

purplerose  posted on  2010-03-12   21:39:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#479. To: purplerose (#478)

Tancredo understood the ILLEGAL Immigration Issue, but he couldn't seem to get his head around the FACT that all Obamabots are MORONS!!

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-12   22:26:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#480. To: Mudboy Slim (#479)

Very true.

purplerose  posted on  2010-03-12   22:34:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#481. To: purplerose (#480)

It is what it is...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-13   15:00:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#482. To: purplerose, Rotara, christine, SammieGee, CAPPSMADNESS, Dakmar, Jethro Tull, JimmieDee, buckeroo (#480)

Tila Tequila's single again, right?

Hmmm...she's just my type...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-15   1:23:44 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#483. To: All (#482)

Tiger Woods just announced that he's gonna play the Masters in April...I'm thinkin' ROAD-TRIP!!

I'm thinkin' it might be a good idea to take my buddy up on his offer to get me tickets to the Masters so I can follow Tiger around fer 18-36 holes. Every time someone hollers, "Attaboy, Tiger!!", MUD'll be there to blurt out, even LOUDER, "Yeah, way to go, Cheetah!!"

Heh heh heh...ain't this fun, my friends?!

Bwahahahaha...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-16   11:46:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#484. To: Mudboy Slim (#482)

Nice lookin' gal. I've got a pair of stilettos like hers only they are higher. And they are in gold, black, and silver with rhinestones.

purplerose  posted on  2010-03-21   19:43:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#485. To: purplerose (#484)

Yowzah...

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-03-23   16:32:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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