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Title: AJ says he's withdrawing his support of Medina if she doesn't issue an apology on her comment about truthers
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Published: Feb 23, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-02-23 13:18:18 by christine
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#105. To: TwentyTwelve, all (#102)
I don't know. At least 90pc of the voters don't dig nearly as deeply as do we. They may not have a clue as to the issues that we're discussing here. I wouldn't bet a nickel either way on the outcome of this primary. I'll still vote Medina.
At this point she is damned if she does and damned if she doesn't. Another flip flop - with the clear statement she made on the Klear Channel Radio-droid Mark Davis' program - and she gets pilloried. If she doesn't apologize to her truth seeking base she gets pilloried (and many - will be "once burned ...") - either way the Goose is done.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Good question. Now that you mention it, I would believe she was pressured by someone some how. As for the refund, seems to me to be too easy, too quick, unless there were many others. The quickness of the refund is an interesting datum. It would seem to imply that the campaign is taking a dive. That being the case then the earlier speculation that she was "gotten to" becomes more likely.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Paul... Not all of us just rode into town yesterday. Ron Paul had his say with the Trotski memo, Medina had hers with the "despicable" truthers. Ms. Medina stumbled badly, her advisers were inept at very least.
It seems that a lot of folks believe that thinking is strenuous activity that they aren't getting paid to do and therefore refuse to do it.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. LOL! You think people are "freeping" that poll?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Or in the immortal words of the late Freddie Prinze's Puerto Rican Janitor Character: "It's na' my job."
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Yeah, he was a funny guy, wasn't he? Too bad he couldn't escape the personal demons (depression). He killed himself at the ripe old age of 22, just a few months after signing a multi-million dollar contract.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. She could have capitalized on the massive distrust of career politicians and .gov in general much more than she did (which is the reason she had gathered so much support and attention). You betcha, she could have turned it around on both interviewers.
Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.
The latest, local poll, 590klbj.com , has Debra at 57.8pc, the last time that I checked it. Make of it, what you will.
I'll cop to dropping by from time to time and banging Debra.
We complain because politician always lying to us - then we trash someone as dumb, when they don't play the lie game. Shouldn't we get on her side and stay on her side - help her fight the corrupt powers that be - NOT trash her - calling her dumb. There wasn't any reason for her to lie and less reason for her to avoid the question and then later call the subject "ABSURD". There wasn't any good reason to call those with questions despicable either. Anyone that has watched those THREE BUILDINGS fall into their own footprint after the concrete was turned to dust and steel exploded into 3 foot long pieces and doesn't question the government "theory" is fucking brain dead. There are millions of people that do not believe the crap they've been fed by the govt. about many things including but not limited to 9-11. Hundreds of architects that argue against the government's conspiracy theory that allows the buildings to collapse in free fall speed into their own base resistance free. There were first responders that heard bombs going off. Those guys are professionals and know when the explosions are out of the ordinary and systematic. The entire area in which the events occurred is the highest security area IN THE UNIVERSE yet NORAD stood down and allowed the aircraft to impact the buildings. (The "plane" impacting the Pentagon had been in the air and off course for an hour and a half). The Pentagon video shows a blur that can't be made out and none of the defense mechanisms (rockets/missiles/cameras) mounted on the building were used and nothing resembling clear photos have ever been shown. WTC Workers received e-mails telling them not to go to work that day. PUT options were 600% higher on the two airlines involved in 9-11. None of the alleged hijackers names were on the flight manifests, no airport videos of them getting on airplanes, and the people alleged to have been the hijackers killed in the event showed up ALIVE at their respective embassies. Shouldn't we get on her side and stay on her side - help her fight the corrupt powers that be - NOT trash her - calling her dumb. Not only no, but hell no. The governments explanation is pure bullshit and Americans have been putting up with this crap for far too long. The more it's tolerated the more it will occur.
Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.
Most Americans have obviously decided that 9/11 "truth" is bullshit.
Most Sheeple have obviously decided that 9/11 "truth" is bullshit. But than again, most Americans are sheeple & most sheeple are Americans.
But than again, most Americans are sheeple & most sheeple are Americans. It's so typical of you "truthers" to put down anyone who doesn't think what you think.
But than again, most Americans are sheeple & most sheeple are Americans. It's so typical of you "truthers" to put down anyone who doesn't think what you think. You don't think that most Americans are sheeple?
I guess you'll need to explain what you mean by "sheeple."
Most Sheeple have obviously decided that 9/11 "truth" is bullshit. But than again, most Americans are sheeple & most sheeple are Americans. Would you mind explaining why you addressed this post to me ? I don't get it. The quote isn't one of mine. Maybe it's a quote of Mr. Asshole, but I have him on Bozo and didn't see it.
Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.
Mangez mon slip.
#117. To: noone222 (#116) #118. To: Mister Clean, noone222
Where do you get this disinformation? Here's a CNN Poll that indicates you are full of bovine excrment. : ) Thursday, November 11 2004 - Articles CNN Online Poll: 89% Believe There's Been a 9/11 Cover-up Another poll 2 years later: CNN poll: 83% say 9/11 terror was a US Govt 'inside job'! por Foreign Press Foundation - Henk Ruyssenaars Saturday, Mar. 25, 2006 at 1:32 PM CNN Poll has 84% of 50,000 believe 9/11 Cover Up! CNN Poll: 89% Believe US Government Covering Up 9/11 FLASHBACK: Zogby Poll: Half of New Yorkers Believe Government Complicity in 9/11 Vote online now, go to http://www.cnn.com/C...rson.cooper.360 That's juust from a quick google on the issue............
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
LE SLIP! If a majority of Americans believe in 9/11 "truth" why aren't they demanding a new investigation like the "truthers" demand? If these numbers are accurate why is nothing happening? If a majority of Americans believe the government lied, why do you complain about the MSM keeping Americans in the dark? Seems to me, if a majority of Americans believe the government is lying about 9/11 that undermines your claims about the MSM.
I think you are going to have to carry on with your circle jerk alone Mister Clean. The MSM has a dismal track record, not only on 911 but also WMD's and a pleathora of other issues. Dumbing down America is the mantra. The majority of Americans are ill informed on most issues......hence the sorry state this nation is in today. An informed and educated public wouldn't allow this massive debt or endless wars or corruption or bank bail outs or GM bailouts or an endless parade of corrpt incumbants year in and year out. Nothing happens on any of those issues either Mister Clean--do you have any valid reasons why this might be? Or do you just single out 911 and ignore everything else?
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Fressen Sie bitte meine Unterhosen.
Wait! How do you explain the high poll numbers you posted?
Why don't you explain them? You claim that the people don't care about this issue and that they accept the goobermint story......I don't make that claim.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
I didn't post them, you did.
Thank you Mike. May we never forget our cultural debt to our Gallic allies.
That, and lots more, Amen. Thanks.
I think that if Alex Jones were withdrawing his support of Medina, it would be a GOOD thing. Anyone that Alex Jones supports, is not someone who I would trust at all. Medina got the rope-a-dope done to her by two very capable, and very obligated people. Alex Jones, and Glenn Beck both are owned by the powers that be, and for anyone to say otherwise is not being honest in the least. Medina had said some things that truly were revolutionary. The key statement she made was about property rights and property taxes. We do not own anything, as we are tenants on the state's land. That is the truth of things in this country, and had that message resonated with the public, I guarantee you, it would have caused a great many people to re-think their situation where their property rights are concerned. That sentence she spoke alone was the reason she needed to be destroyed. Without the fear of losing your property, there is no control over your behavior. There's no control over your prosperity. There's no control over you as a person. THAT cannot be allowed to happen when the state is all powerful. We have not lived in a free country since 1913. The illusion of freedom is what we have. We are free so long as we have the ability to pay. That is not freedom. That is servitude, and Medina was telling the truth. She paid lipservice to these two liars, in order to get them off her back, and to make herself look a little less fringe. She should have told Alex Jones to screw off. She didn't need his support. In fact, Truth, and Integrity never need the support of conmen. People like Jones and Beck, are paid liars. Jones is getting PAID to do what he does. Jones is part of the machine, the state. He's the Pied Piper of the lunatic fringe, a fringe that must be kept in check. It's why I don't really give a damn what Alex Jones or any of the morons in the propaganda ministry have to say. If Medina wins, and she stands strong on her principles, giving property rights back to the people, then people like Jones and Beck will have failed in their agenda to destroy freedom for their masters. Which is exactly what this whole thing has been about. It's about ensuring that the seed of freedom doesn't get planted in fertile soil. Heaven knows that our leaders and media have spread around enough bullshit for the ground to be extremely fertile for revolt.
It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.
That's great that you are all demanding and getting refunds. I havent been online since i wrote the article but i was listening to alex show on the rebroadcast via cell phone (512 464 5000) today and heard that in the second hour he really blew up over this, and quoted my article about medina. ha! if i had a bit part in exposing this dopey fraud medina i am overjoyed. she is real 'despicable'. ha ha!! ;-D
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 sorry, Tommy, i don't agree with you this time on Alex. Alex had Medina on his show two or three times to give her publicity and she got a lot of support and donations because of it. never once did Alex ask her her views on 9/11. this destruction was Medina's doing. these were her own words. Alex had nothing to do with it. in fact, it was Artisan who brought the Mark Davis interview to Alex's attention with his article posted here yesterday. Alex didn't originate it. imo, it would have been remiss of Alex not to discuss this. i bet you didn't listen to what he had to say. you might just have a different opinion if you had heard all of it. and, btw, Alex did an outstanding interview of James Traficant last week too. no holds barred on Israel and AIPAC. i make an effort to give credit to everyone, friend or foe, where its due.
imo, it would have been remiss of Alex not to discuss this. i bet you didn't listen to what he had to say. you might just have a different opinion if you had heard all of it. and, btw, Alex did an outstanding interview of James Traficant last week too. no holds barred on Israel and AIPAC. i make an effort to give credit to everyone, friend or foe, where its due. I agree 110% ... very well stated ! I think many of us are very watchful of Jones, who by the way was very active in the Patriot community long before 9-11 unlike Beck, Hannity and others that weren't on the radar until after 9-11. Jones supported the Branch Davidians and exposed the government murderers long, long before Beck got sober enough to host a radio program. Jones isn't perfect by any stretch, but who brings more relevant guests to the radio than he ? Alex "may" have been a little too upset about Medina's remarks but 9-11 Truth is critical and the truth needs to be exposed, not deemed an absurdity. Truth seekers, even if wrong, are not despicable for asking questions. Alex Jones supported Medina 100 % until she made those ABSURD and DESPICABLE remarks. His taking a different position towards Medina was the ONLY honest thing to do even though it may sting for awhile. Mark Davis made it clear that his view of people that might think some elements of the Bush Administration or the government of the U.S. were involved in the WTC attack were DESPICABLE while ignoring the FACT that the government has done nothing to dissuade truthers and much to convince them that they're right. Just like Beck's interview of Medina, Davis' interview was aimed directly at making Medina irrelevant but more importantly the intent was to alienate people that question UNCLE SAMBO on 9-11 because if the truth about 9-11 firmly indicates that there was Bush Administration, CIA, or MOSSAD involvment, the government of the US is finished. There are men in the US Govt., the CIA, the FBI, Naval Intelligence, the MOSSAD, MI-6, ISI, SAVAK and other intelligence services that have overthrown many governments by using methods proven to work for hundreds if not thousands of years. They have assassinated the best of them, like Caesar and Kennedy, so it's bullshit to act as if all of a sudden under the little faggot Bush they have taken on an air of innocence. And let us never forget that Bush tried to appoint Heinz Kissinger (a war criminal responsible for numerous assassinations and government overthrows) to head up the 9-11 Commission. Wake the fuck up America ... please.
Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.
I doubt that will happen because most people are hypnotized by the TV, media and education system. If we are invaded by foreign countries and the propaganda machine is dismantled and exposed like happened in say Nazi Germany the truth about 9/11 may become mainstream, but even then it would be twisted with key facts left out and false ones added in. I guess that those of us who realize the truth will always be a few left to argue about it in futility.
can you post a url that leads to that interview? i cant seem to find it. EDIT: nevermind, i found it. israel stuff starts in second segment fourth segment, 4:40 into segment fifth segment, 0:20 into segment, which degenerates into a infomercial for israel and alex jones.
You're probably correct ... I don't think that means we have any less responsibility to try and expose the truth. Sucks don't it !!!
Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.
Keeps me coming back :-)
This is exactly right. It is even more true in Texas, which is literally Constitutionally opposed to income taxes. So when Rick Perry, the public school mafia and others dependent on the property tax saw that she was gaining traction last month, they put in a call to the national media to PLEASE come down here and SOMEHOW destroy her. It didn't take long to do so. Her inexperience killed her and her candidacy now deserves to die. She revealed she lacked integrity when she started flip-flopping. Beck "Swiftboated" her and then symbolically "French kissed" Rick Perry within seconds after finishing the attack.
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
Good work, again, Amigo...
That sounds right.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestAfter AJ's tirade today I expect her numbers to rapidly erode. She may ride a little ways on momentum, but she even if she were to win the nomination, which she won't, she'll lose in the General.
#106. To: christine (#97)
#107. To: Cynicom (#104)
I still have to wonder if she was forced to recant?
#108. To: christine (#97)
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You guys have no idea of the pressure that she's constantly under... no idea!
#109. To: Original_Intent (#92)
2. When presented with contradictory data people are unwilling or unable to sort through the information and draw a sound conclusion. The Skool Systum not only no longer teaches reading properly, but history, and as important as reading - logic and sound reasoning.
Lord Acton
#110. To: Lod (#96)
It's a dopey poll, 'cause you can "only vote, once an hour."
Lord Acton
#111. To: James Deffenbach (#109)
It seems that a lot of folks believe that thinking is strenuous activity that they aren't getting paid to do and therefore refuse to do it.
#112. To: Original_Intent (#111)
Lord Acton
#113. To: Lod (#63)
She surely could have turned the table on her tormentors by asking if they weren't for finding out the truth about any situation or problem in our country, and let it go at that.
#114. To: All (#105)
#115. To: James Deffenbach (#110)
LOL! You think people are "freeping" that poll?
#116. To: your_neighbor (#42)
What - she wasn't smart enough to lie?
#117. To: noone222 (#116)
The governments explanation is pure bullshit and Americans have been putting up with this crap for far too long. The more it's tolerated the more it will occur.
#118. To: Mister Clean, noone222 (#117)
Most Americans have obviously decided that 9/11 "truth" is bullshit.
#119. To: TwentyTwelve (#118)
Most Sheeple have obviously decided that 9/11 "truth" is bullshit.
#120. To: Mister Clean (#119)
Most Sheeple have obviously decided that 9/11 "truth" is bullshit.
#121. To: TwentyTwelve (#120)
You don't think that most Americans are sheeple?
#122. To: TwentyTwelve (#118)
Most Americans have obviously decided that 9/11 "truth" is bullshit.
#123. To: Mister Clean (#119)
#124. To: noone222 (#122)
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Would you mind explaining why you addressed this post to me ? I don't get it.
#125. To: Mister Clean (#117)
Most Americans have obviously decided that 9/11 "truth" is bullshit.
#126. To: randge (#123)
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Toruk Makto
#127. To: abraxas (#125)
Where do you get this disinformation?
#128. To: Mister Clean (#127)
If a majority of Americans believe in 9/11 "truth" why aren't they demanding a new investigation like the "truthers" demand? If these numbers are accurate why is nothing happening?
#129. To: Mister Clean (#127)
#130. To: abraxas (#128)
The MSM has a dismal track record, not only on 911
#131. To: Mister Clean (#130)
Wait! How do you explain the high poll numbers you posted?
#132. To: abraxas (#131)
Why don't you explain them?
#133. To: Ferret Mike (#126)
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LE SLIP!
#134. To: noone222 (#116)
#135. To: christine (#0)
#136. To: christine, jethro tull, cynicom, twentytwelve, lod, noone222, original_intent, wudidiz, rotara, psusa (#36)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#137. To: TommyTheMadArtist, Artisan (#135)
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#138. To: christine, TommyTheMadArtist, Artisan (#137)
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sorry, Tommy, i don't agree with you this time on Alex. Alex had Medina on his show two or three times to give her publicity and she got a lot of support and donations because of it. never once did Alex ask her her views on 9/11. this destruction was Medina's doing. these were her own words. Alex had nothing to do with it. in fact, it was Artisan who brought the Mark Davis interview to Alex's attention with his article posted here yesterday. Alex didn't originate it.
#139. To: noone222 (#138)
...because if the truth about 9-11 firmly indicates that there was Bush Administration, CIA, or MOSSAD involvment, the government of the US is finished.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#140. To: christine (#137)
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Alex did an outstanding interview of James Traficant last week too. no holds barred on Israel and AIPAC.
second segement, 10:00 into segment
#141. To: wudidiz (#139)
I guess that those of us who realize the truth will always be a few left to argue about it in futility.
#142. To: noone222 (#141)
I don't think that means we have any less responsibility to try and expose the truth.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#143. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#135)
The key statement she made was about property rights and property taxes. We do not own anything, as we are tenants on the state's land... That sentence she spoke alone was the reason she needed to be destroyed.
#144. To: Artisan (#136)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#145. To: Sam Houston (#143)
So when Rick Perry, the public school mafia and others dependent on the property tax saw that she was gaining traction last month, they put in a call to the national media to PLEASE come down here and SOMEHOW destroy her. It didn't take long to do so. Her inexperience killed her and her candidacy now deserves to die. She revealed she lacked integrity when she started flip-flopping. Beck "Swiftboated" her and then symbolically "French kissed" Rick Perry within seconds after finishing the attack.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
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