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Title: AJ says he's withdrawing his support of Medina if she doesn't issue an apology on her comment about truthers
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Published: Feb 23, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-02-23 13:18:18 by christine
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I want my money back (again)
disappointing and maddening, isn't it?
Great ... so for all practical purposes Beck and AJ are working together to bring Medina down ?????
Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.
Great ... so for all practical purposes Beck and AJ are working together to bring Medina down ????? She's been rather thoroughly "had". Set up, boxed in, and disposed of. She's done - you can stick a fork in her.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Hahahahahaha ... hahahahahaha !!! I couldn't think of anything funnier than you sending money to RP and then Medina ... Texas politics is about $$$$$$$$$$$
Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.
She's as dumb as Palin !
Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.
Beyond maddening here. Whoever, if anyone, was prepping her for these appearances should be shot.
I'm so desperate for a political answer that I fell for it again. Well...NEVER AGAIN. They can all go to hell. And if RP runs again, I won't contribute a dime. It's beans, bullets, and bitching from now on out.
But not as good looking so she can't get away with it. She made a play for the dumbed down mAss audience and it is backfiring on all cylinders. Her initial hedging on truth turned off the Nit-wit-o-cans and now she is successfully alienating her base. Debra Medina is about to melt back into obscurity.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
AJ called her a traitor and said she threw us under the bus. suggested that all of us who supported her and sent money call her campaign expressing our disgust.
Jack Kevorkian is now Debra Medina's political consultant.
Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.
Debra Medina Campaign 3027 N. Richmond Ste 500A Wharton, TX 77488 P: 877-WE-TEXANS (877-938-3926) F: 979-532-5651 Email: General questions: contact@medinafortexas.com Media questions: press@medinafortexas.com Speaking invitations: invite@medinafortexas.co
ping it's your article AJ is reading.
I agree with him I might call even though I hadn't sent a dime, yet. I know I'd be calling if I had sent money.
Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.
I requested a refund from Debra Medina because of her remarks concerning truthers... This is what I received today... Mr. ....., Your request for a refund was forwarded to Piryx. Please note the information about your refund below. We're sorry that you are no longer supporting Debra Medina for Governor of Texas, but hope that you will reconsider. - Brenda ******* A $100 credit has been issued back to your Visa card. Please allow up to 2 business days for it to show up on your statement. Per this refund, we will be withholding $95.75 from the next scheduled wire payment. This represents the amount already paid to your bank account. Regards, Brian Upton Piryx, Inc.
I just voted for the A-Rab.
Perhaps it would be well for others that have donated to request a refund and be sure to include the reason why.
Good to learn.
I believe that he'd do a swell job, and his salary would certainly be reasonable.
I did as well.
We MUST call a spade a spade - here is another politician who got crossways and whipsawed on a Jewish issue. This is someone who is running for a state office and still a Jewish issue is toxic. The reason for 911, Israel's knowledge of it, and the investigation of it - MUST never ever ever, in the smallest way - be broached as a subject. If you do - you will be slammed. Clearly AJ and Beck are working for the Jew man!
Hell yes, and it might make the news if enough people start demanding their money back.
Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.
I was quite surprised to receive my money back. In the past Ron Paul would not even acknowledge emails or phone calls. Medina had a good start but stumbled badly.
She isn't smart enough to do the job.
Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.
I believe she would be moral enough.
you gotta start wondering if this was a coordinated effort between jones and beck.
chimp and good-hair have adequately proven that smart is not a job requirement. Honest and constitutional would be nice however.
Hello; Immediately after the Glenn Beck interview I contributed $100 to Debra's campaign via MasterCard. As a retired member of the NYC Police Department, I know fellow officers who have legitimate questions regarding the attack on 9- 11. Today I learned that Debra used the word despicable regarding those folks who have doubts regarding the official version. We're a lot of things, but none are despicable. When the campaign is over, I suggest Debra read "Day of Deceit" that is an account of the attack on Pearl Harbor written by Admiral Stennett. She might be surprised to learn that FDR had actual Japanese dispatches in hand detailing the attack some 10 days prior to December 7, 1941. That said, I'm requesting a refund. Thomas Davis State College, PA
I don't know, she backed up, hemmed and hawwed and then went right along with the radio talk puke. A moral person has principles that I think she forfeited.
Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.
Even if it was, it was she who made the decision to flip-flop.
Even if it was, it was she who made the decision to flip-flop. Alex Jones had nothing to do with what she said. She only has herself to blame.
Right. My dad once told me that you can't con an honest man. If Medina got conned it was only because she wasn't honest.
Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.
I totally agree.
I agree. I actually hated to hear what Alex said because I, like others here, wanted to see a grass roots candidate in the Governor's Office. However, when the day comes that a true grass roots candidate gets into that office, I don't want it to be some whishy-washy milque-toast, flip-flopper.
Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.
bravo. well stated. i especially like your reference to NYC and your suggestion that she read Day of Deceit. i'll post our letter to her when we're done later. we intend to ask for a refund too.
When you're the outsider/under dog /Constitutional candidate you have to be smart ... the two cheer-leaders you mentioned were part of a fix.
Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.
no way
Bravo young man, bravo. Early on I suggested she attack Beck, not try to clarify, big mistake. Now she is backfilling and trying to stay afloat. Too late.
why not?
The really sick part about this is that I believe her answer to Beck was what she actually believes. As you said, she should have stood her ground and attacked, or as beck likes to say quoting Jefferson; "Question (all) with boldness."
She isn't smart enough to do the job. What - she wasn't smart enough to lie? We complain because politician always lying to us - then we trash someone as dumb, when they don't play the lie game. Shouldn't we get on her side and stay on her side - help her fight the corrupt powers that be - NOT trash her - calling her dumb.
I totally agree. And W.C. Fields said "never give a sucker an even break".
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
She's as dumb as Palin ! ... etc. Whats the matter noone222, you stupid motherfucker, do you have a chip on your shoulder? Hmmm? You asked me that earlier, so now I am asking you. Do you have a chip on your shoulder? You stupid motherfucker. I told you so. I know that no one likes to hear that. But I don't give a damn what you like, or anyone else here likes. Now when another candidate says a few trigger phrases and words that give you a hard-on, or wet panties, think back to this time. But you'll forget. Rinse and repeat, right? Maybe next time you will get your wish and a real candidate will win. Somehow I doubt it. But with you, hope springs eternal. Turn that frown upside down and smile, smile, smile. Right? Fuck this place. How stupid can some "freedom" loving people be? You people should know better. You suckers claim you do know better. But like a dog, you go right back to your vomit, if that vomit looks like it might be tasty.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or This from AP today... " But Medina's detractors -- as well as several independent analysts -- say she may have self-destructed in a Feb. 11 interview with conservative commentator Glenn Beck by not immediately disavowing a theory that the U.S. government may have played a role in the 9-11 terrorist attacks. The former Wharton County Republican chairwoman quickly sought to repair the damage, saying there was no doubt that Muslim terrorists flew the hijacked planes on 9-11. Medina now says she believes the incident may have strengthened her candidacy by galvanizing supporters, positioning her for a strong showing against her two Republican rivals. If she believes that is true, she is riding the Titanic.
it was her own words. alex jones wasn't controlling her.
Your obscene language aside, who would you support in the Texas race, an insider, no one????
does alex have to make a big issue of the situation now, after the beck fiasco and medina's backpeddling? nope. but he's making an issue of it... when it's already obvious that medina got intimidated into betraying herself, and anyone who's been paying attention has already written medina off. alex jones is just grandstanding ---that's his stock in trade--- trying to capitalize on medina's inexperience.
that's rather harsh. are we to believe that there will never be again someone outside of the establishment, as Medina is, that truly shares our values of liberty and freedom? because we chose to believe what she said in that regard, that makes us stupid? yours is a stringent litmus test.
I dont care what you think of my language. I care even less about texas. I think that saying "Hear hear! My good man, you have left me with no recourse but to object to this travesty in the most strenuous of terms!" just doesn't cut it. Dont like it, then thats the way the titties bounce.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or No, I do not. If such language is needed to express yourself, I would suggest you have a problem. It reminds me somewhat of a very immature young man.
i spose there's a remote chance that medina could backtrack again, apologize for calling truthers despicable, and finesse it in such a way that she recoups some of the lost ground... but she'd have to tell the whole truth, not just about 9/11, but also about the neocon machinery that's controlling the media and the political process. a very long shot.
Yes. This is huge news. She needs to be exposed as a traitor.
How do you get power to your computer under that bridge, Troll ? You're extremely hasty to make judgments that more mature minds ponder for certainty. You do have a chip on your shoulder and a huge block on top of your neck. Fuck off !
Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.
She needs to be exposed as a traitor. i doubt if this is very huge news to anyone outside texas... although it could become huge news if medina found a venue she could use to tell the whole truth. like i said in the posts above, because of her inexperience, she was ambushed and responded badly. there's a remote chance she'd be willing to tell the whole truth in an effort to redeem herself, but it's unlikely she'd be allowed a platform. do you think, for instance, alex jones would allow her on his air to run through walt and mearsheimer's explanation of how america works? not likely...
Do you kiss your mom with that nasty mouth, punk ?
Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.
Whoever, if anyone, was prepping her for these appearances should be shot. It's very frustrating and a clear warning to "grass roots" folk everywhere they need to be prepared to have an answer to this question for the Glen Beck's of the world. Say what you want about Jesse Ventura, but he would have given Beck a good dressing down if he had used the Medina tactics and questioning. Also remember Beck steamrolled Paul then warmed up to him and in the process changed his tune to sound more libertarian. I can easily see how the next person, unfortunately Medina, allowed their guard to be down and got ambushed. I said it then that Beck's ambush would likely work and she would spend the rest of her campaign defending her statement and then having to go back and re-define it over and over again. She did all that and finally stuck her foot in her mouth. And if none of that had worked, the final nail in her coffin was delivered the second the plane hit the IRS building in Austin. The media has had a field day with the anti-tax and limited government movement with this and they don't have to say Medina's name in order for that broad brush to paint her with it. It's really unfortunate because Texas will be shackled with the slime bag Perry or the war criminal Hutchinson. As painful as her words were regarding 9/11, I would still support her and I would encourage others in Texas to let the emotion of the situation die down for a day or two before withdrawing support through votes and/or dollars. Flame away and make whatever opinions you want out of that, but that's my position on the matter and I'm not likley moving from it.
"What began in Russia will end in America."- 1930, Elder Ignatius of Harbin, Manchuria.
which begs the question: why bother supporting anyone? do you think medina's so stupid she hasnt learned her lesson from this incident? i'm really sorry, but i had to ask that question...
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
Jones is really letting Medina have it here during the last 10 minutes of his show. Very entertaining to listen to this, although it didn't have to be this way, Debra.
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
A. noone is a lady and agree or disagree your language brands you as anything but a gentleman. B. You are out of order and over the top. Agreement and disagreement do not have to be expressed in tasteless displays of vulgarity. Sometimes it is handy for getting people's attention but then it is a device rather than a childish temper tantrum. I suppose you would like to assert your own perfection, but for some reason you would seem to fall short. How shocking.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
noone is Doug, a guy. ;)
Agree. Who knows if she's seen any of Ventura's Conspiracy tv shows, or seen any of the videos that many of us have seen? She surely could have turned the table on her tormentors by asking if they weren't for finding out the truth about any situation or problem in our country, and let it go at that. She could have capitalized on the massive distrust of career politicians and .gov in general much more than she did (which is the reason she had gathered so much support and attention).
Very entertaining to listen to this, although it didn't have to be this way, Debra. AJ is absolutely right.
You really think my lady-like behavior is that obvious ??? Ha hahahaha !!!
Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.
The former Wharton County Republican chairwoman quickly sought to repair the damage, saying there was no doubt that Muslim terrorists flew the hijacked planes on 9-11. Medina now says she believes the incident may have strengthened her candidacy by galvanizing supporters, positioning her for a strong showing against her two Republican rivals. If she believes that is true, she is riding the Titanic. A. I doubt she believes it. Her campaign is now dead, over, washed up, through. It may be that she was intimidated into compliance, bought into compliance, or was stupid enough to believe what her new team of Intel Operators was telling her she believed. B. This is more PsyOps i.e., the main thrust of the media comment is to reinforce that it is not allowed to question the 911 Scriptures and that regardless of how many contradictions appear one is required to believe as a condition of Public Office - or be eviscerated in public by the controlled mediawhores.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Thanks !!! I was away from the computer, but not long enough for a sex change !
Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.
Ha hahahaha !!! A gentleman always treats a lady as a lady - even when she's being a vulgar bitch. ;-)
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Oh, my apologies - I thought noone was a woman. My bad. Thanks.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Absolutely !
Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.
Now, this is closer ... I am a vulgar bitch every now and again.
Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
She could have capitalized on the massive distrust of career politicians and .gov in general much more than she did (which is the reason she had gathered so much support and attention). that's it, Jim.
i think you're right about that. the bottom line, however, with Debra, is that if she were truly the honest and principled woman we thought she was, she would not have flipflopped.
Break in the snow, so it's time to lasso the lads and hit the streets.
according to the polls, medina's got 20%... do you approve of alex jones continuing to beat this dead horse?
All I needed to know was she married a Mexican.
The only real problem anti-immigration types have with the non-whites already here is that they won't adopt Haitians. They "refuse to assimilate." Their "culture is incompatible." THAT is not our problem. ...Alice laughed. `There's no use trying,' she said `one ca'n't believe impossible things.' `I daresay you haven't had much practice,' said the Queen. `When I was your age, I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast..." Through the Looking Glass, chapter 5, Wool and Water One must have the capacity to believe in many impossible things to believe the establishment's insane conspiracy theory about 9/11.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. do you think medina's so stupid she hasnt learned her lesson from this incident? i'm really sorry, but i had to ask that question... I still hold out hope for local and state offices and I cling to any glimmer of hope with the national ones. I would hope she's learned her lesson though it is too late for her. I think she has been given some bad advise and talking points. Take a step back for a moment. Most people want a decent paying job, spend time with their family, live in peace and get the government off their back. We're a mobile society and for better or worse, people don't take or don't have the time to really question and research events. Take Medina's first comments on Beck and those sound a bit extreme. Now combine that with her recent remarks and she's gone to the other extreme. She was probably told she had alienated a lot of people with her first response and on recent comments she's managed to alienate the other spectrum. There are any number of ways she should have handled this from the first event, but jumping from one pole to the other has given Perry, Hutchinson and their acolytes nothing but continuous canon fodder to not only ruin her shot but damage the limited government and taxation cause as well. Most people are going to see a flip flop on such a hot button issue and then move on to decide between Perry or Hutchinson. I don't understand the disconnect with Alex here. Ron Paul has denied a lot of Truther claims on 9/11 and Jones gives him a pass. Has Alex ever sat down with Ron Paul to address specific 9/11 questions? I don't think he has. So I don't understand the pass with Paul and continuing to press Medina on it. Alex could have just let it be and hammer away on limited government and taxation in an effort to revitalize her campaign.
"What began in Russia will end in America."- 1930, Elder Ignatius of Harbin, Manchuria.
Medina may have been good for the citizens of Texas. First commandment of the New judeo Century: Thou shalt not allow anything that benefits the citizens. The tribe's excuse for attacking Medina was because she ran afoul of the tribe's official 911 cover story. She tried to backtrack and climb into bed with the tribe. Then the tribe finished her off. End of story. Texas and America lose again. Better luck next time!
seems likely to me that the kommissars will begin to screen candidates for political reliability before they run for dogcatcher. you got to wonder how medina got as far as she did before she got stepped on ...unless she was intended to be an object lesson. and our pudgy friend is demonstrating his true character, isnt he?
OI... After receiving my refund..rereading the wording, I suspect I was not the first to ask for my donation back.
Ron Paul didn't flipflop nor did he say that those who hold truther beliefs are despicable. Ron Paul did say though, IIRC, that 9/11 truthers sure weren't helping him. AJ said several times that it wasn't Medina's own 911 position that troubled him, it was that she flipflopped and, in the process, threw all those who have questions that supported her, under the bus.
did you get a refund?
so you approve of alex whacking away on the dead horse.
"A $100 credit has been issued back to your Visa card. Please allow up to 2 business days for it to show up on your statement."
that's not how i would characterize it. maybe you should listen to what he said yourself before criticizing and making accusations about AJ's duplicity here. this is big news here in Texas. he should have talked about it.
Was I writing to you? No I wasn't. Stay out of it. Bozo is nice. Perhaps you could put me there. And you, OI, you fuckwit: I have not one time even hinted that I am perfect. I am flawed just like everyone else. Perhaps the main difference is: when political parasites lie to me once, I don't give them a second chance to ever lie to me again. Seems that there are some political masochists that like to be beaten by any politician that says the right soothing words.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or that's not how i would characterize it. what is alex getting out of this? why must he beat a dead horse? doesnt he have better things to talk about? and that's precisely why i dont listen to alex jones... he simply isnt worth the time.
Bozo is nice. I dont Bozo anyone, never have. There is a reason why. Everyone has something to add to every discussion, so I read input from all on items of interest. I do object to your abusive use of obscene language, it neither interests me nor impresses me. I do read with interest most of what you post, just refrain from the obscene.
...not to mention the fact that he's a grandstanding, whining little bully.
It comes down to a variety of factors. 1. People who believe things to be true which are in fact false. Someone operating off of false information will draw false conclusions. Almost daily I recognize another angle to the Psychiatrically planned information and perception management memes in place. To a greater or lesser degree this includes anyone who regularly reads or watches a major media outlet. The major media at this point (ABCNNBCBSFOX) AND the large Newspapers and Magazines e.g., Slime, Snoozeweek, US NEWS AND WORLD DISTORTS, the New York Slimes, COSMOPOLITAN, Lady's Home Urinal, US, THEM, PIMPLE, etc., .... They are outlets all owned and controlled by a very small group of megamedia control companies which in turn are owned, indirectly, by the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, and vassals to the Rothschilds and Rockefellers. There are other players, but those two are the biggest and the top is all basically allied in their desire to establish a totalitarian system with themselves in charge. 2. When presented with contradictory data people are unwilling or unable to sort through the information and draw a sound conclusion. The Skool Systum not only no longer teaches reading properly, but history, and as important as reading - logic and sound reasoning. 3. And some are simply moral cowards who are afraid that the people running the World Crime Operation will make things uncomfortable for them or simply too afraid or too stupid to look
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
A bit of humbleness goes a long way with me.
Tsk, tsk. Such a temper. Do you feel like you are changing opinions by being vulgar and tasteless? You are of course. You leave people with a definite impression of yourself. So, any intelligent analysis you might offer is buried under the tasteless language and personal epithets. However, I do believe in freedom of speech so if you wish to be crass, tasteless, boorish, assinine, graceless, and coarse please feel free. As for bozo I don't use it - ever. It is kind of like Menckens comment - "why do people go to zoos?"
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
After receiving my refund..rereading the wording, I suspect I was not the first to ask for my donation back. I suspect that at this point even she knows she is done. I still have to wonder if she was forced to recant? Probably will never find out but the people who want to keep 911, and people's perceptions, under control are probably very worried at this point. I suspect there are some tight feeling collars in some quarters. So, the enforcement of the Official Fairy Tale among the political class becomes paramount.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
On the local poll here, Debra is at 57.8pc when I just checked. It's a dopey poll, 'cause you can "only vote, once an hour."
From Paul Davis: RICK PERRY FOR GOVERNOR! How the hell does that sound to you, my fellow Truth-seekers? It is absolutely amazing to me how people are so quick to throw someone under the bus. Do you really think that Debra thinks that "truthers" are despicable? Especially after all she's said about it recently? I will freely admit that she screwed up on this one. I told Penny, her Campaign Manager, that she has to come out with a sincere, 'from the heart' statement and apology. Debra got caught up in the "politics" of it all and agreed to something that she doesn't feel. You guys have no idea of the pressure that she's constantly under... no idea! It seems to me that people expect her to be perfect and say all the right things and make all the right decisions so that they can feel better about themselves. I appreciate all of you out there who have enough discernment and thinking- skills to see this as it is. It'll be interesting to see what Debra does. I'll be working towards getting her elected Governor of Texas just like I was yesterday. Paul
After AJ's tirade today I expect her numbers to rapidly erode. She may ride a little ways on momentum, but she even if she were to win the nomination, which she won't, she'll lose in the General.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
I agree. I actually hated to hear what Alex said because I, like others here, wanted to see a grass roots candidate in the Governor's Office. However, when the day comes that a true grass roots candidate gets into that office, I don't want it to be some whishy-washy milque-toast, flip-flopper. Since she is a flip-flopper, I am glad that Alex exposed her for who she really is. It is difficult to find a good grass roots candidate for the Governor's Office.
You make a great point there.
"What began in Russia will end in America."- 1930, Elder Ignatius of Harbin, Manchuria.
The worst grass-root candidate would be better than a lifer pol. Throw a dart at the phone book and they're my guy.
She will soon be forgotten. Her great-great grandchildren will someday want to know what happened to her any why she became wishy-washy.
Not much difference in any of them.
Good question. Now that you mention it, I would believe she was pressured by someone some how. As for the refund, seems to me to be too easy, too quick, unless there were many others.
I don't know. At least 90pc of the voters don't dig nearly as deeply as do we. They may not have a clue as to the issues that we're discussing here. I wouldn't bet a nickel either way on the outcome of this primary. I'll still vote Medina.
At this point she is damned if she does and damned if she doesn't. Another flip flop - with the clear statement she made on the Klear Channel Radio-droid Mark Davis' program - and she gets pilloried. If she doesn't apologize to her truth seeking base she gets pilloried (and many - will be "once burned ...") - either way the Goose is done.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Good question. Now that you mention it, I would believe she was pressured by someone some how. As for the refund, seems to me to be too easy, too quick, unless there were many others. The quickness of the refund is an interesting datum. It would seem to imply that the campaign is taking a dive. That being the case then the earlier speculation that she was "gotten to" becomes more likely.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Paul... Not all of us just rode into town yesterday. Ron Paul had his say with the Trotski memo, Medina had hers with the "despicable" truthers. Ms. Medina stumbled badly, her advisers were inept at very least.
It seems that a lot of folks believe that thinking is strenuous activity that they aren't getting paid to do and therefore refuse to do it.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. LOL! You think people are "freeping" that poll?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Or in the immortal words of the late Freddie Prinze's Puerto Rican Janitor Character: "It's na' my job."
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Yeah, he was a funny guy, wasn't he? Too bad he couldn't escape the personal demons (depression). He killed himself at the ripe old age of 22, just a few months after signing a multi-million dollar contract.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. She could have capitalized on the massive distrust of career politicians and .gov in general much more than she did (which is the reason she had gathered so much support and attention). You betcha, she could have turned it around on both interviewers.
Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.
The latest, local poll, 590klbj.com , has Debra at 57.8pc, the last time that I checked it. Make of it, what you will.
I'll cop to dropping by from time to time and banging Debra.
We complain because politician always lying to us - then we trash someone as dumb, when they don't play the lie game. Shouldn't we get on her side and stay on her side - help her fight the corrupt powers that be - NOT trash her - calling her dumb. There wasn't any reason for her to lie and less reason for her to avoid the question and then later call the subject "ABSURD". There wasn't any good reason to call those with questions despicable either. Anyone that has watched those THREE BUILDINGS fall into their own footprint after the concrete was turned to dust and steel exploded into 3 foot long pieces and doesn't question the government "theory" is fucking brain dead. There are millions of people that do not believe the crap they've been fed by the govt. about many things including but not limited to 9-11. Hundreds of architects that argue against the government's conspiracy theory that allows the buildings to collapse in free fall speed into their own base resistance free. There were first responders that heard bombs going off. Those guys are professionals and know when the explosions are out of the ordinary and systematic. The entire area in which the events occurred is the highest security area IN THE UNIVERSE yet NORAD stood down and allowed the aircraft to impact the buildings. (The "plane" impacting the Pentagon had been in the air and off course for an hour and a half). The Pentagon video shows a blur that can't be made out and none of the defense mechanisms (rockets/missiles/cameras) mounted on the building were used and nothing resembling clear photos have ever been shown. WTC Workers received e-mails telling them not to go to work that day. PUT options were 600% higher on the two airlines involved in 9-11. None of the alleged hijackers names were on the flight manifests, no airport videos of them getting on airplanes, and the people alleged to have been the hijackers killed in the event showed up ALIVE at their respective embassies. Shouldn't we get on her side and stay on her side - help her fight the corrupt powers that be - NOT trash her - calling her dumb. Not only no, but hell no. The governments explanation is pure bullshit and Americans have been putting up with this crap for far too long. The more it's tolerated the more it will occur.
Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.
Most Americans have obviously decided that 9/11 "truth" is bullshit.
Most Sheeple have obviously decided that 9/11 "truth" is bullshit. But than again, most Americans are sheeple & most sheeple are Americans.
But than again, most Americans are sheeple & most sheeple are Americans. It's so typical of you "truthers" to put down anyone who doesn't think what you think.
But than again, most Americans are sheeple & most sheeple are Americans. It's so typical of you "truthers" to put down anyone who doesn't think what you think. You don't think that most Americans are sheeple?
I guess you'll need to explain what you mean by "sheeple."
Most Sheeple have obviously decided that 9/11 "truth" is bullshit. But than again, most Americans are sheeple & most sheeple are Americans. Would you mind explaining why you addressed this post to me ? I don't get it. The quote isn't one of mine. Maybe it's a quote of Mr. Asshole, but I have him on Bozo and didn't see it.
Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.
Mangez mon slip.
#117. To: noone222 (#116) #118. To: Mister Clean, noone222
Where do you get this disinformation? Here's a CNN Poll that indicates you are full of bovine excrment. : ) Thursday, November 11 2004 - Articles CNN Online Poll: 89% Believe There's Been a 9/11 Cover-up Another poll 2 years later: CNN poll: 83% say 9/11 terror was a US Govt 'inside job'! por Foreign Press Foundation - Henk Ruyssenaars Saturday, Mar. 25, 2006 at 1:32 PM CNN Poll has 84% of 50,000 believe 9/11 Cover Up! CNN Poll: 89% Believe US Government Covering Up 9/11 FLASHBACK: Zogby Poll: Half of New Yorkers Believe Government Complicity in 9/11 Vote online now, go to http://www.cnn.com/C...rson.cooper.360 That's juust from a quick google on the issue............
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
LE SLIP! If a majority of Americans believe in 9/11 "truth" why aren't they demanding a new investigation like the "truthers" demand? If these numbers are accurate why is nothing happening? If a majority of Americans believe the government lied, why do you complain about the MSM keeping Americans in the dark? Seems to me, if a majority of Americans believe the government is lying about 9/11 that undermines your claims about the MSM.
I think you are going to have to carry on with your circle jerk alone Mister Clean. The MSM has a dismal track record, not only on 911 but also WMD's and a pleathora of other issues. Dumbing down America is the mantra. The majority of Americans are ill informed on most issues......hence the sorry state this nation is in today. An informed and educated public wouldn't allow this massive debt or endless wars or corruption or bank bail outs or GM bailouts or an endless parade of corrpt incumbants year in and year out. Nothing happens on any of those issues either Mister Clean--do you have any valid reasons why this might be? Or do you just single out 911 and ignore everything else?
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Fressen Sie bitte meine Unterhosen.
Wait! How do you explain the high poll numbers you posted?
Why don't you explain them? You claim that the people don't care about this issue and that they accept the goobermint story......I don't make that claim.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
I didn't post them, you did.
Thank you Mike. May we never forget our cultural debt to our Gallic allies.
That, and lots more, Amen. Thanks.
I think that if Alex Jones were withdrawing his support of Medina, it would be a GOOD thing. Anyone that Alex Jones supports, is not someone who I would trust at all. Medina got the rope-a-dope done to her by two very capable, and very obligated people. Alex Jones, and Glenn Beck both are owned by the powers that be, and for anyone to say otherwise is not being honest in the least. Medina had said some things that truly were revolutionary. The key statement she made was about property rights and property taxes. We do not own anything, as we are tenants on the state's land. That is the truth of things in this country, and had that message resonated with the public, I guarantee you, it would have caused a great many people to re-think their situation where their property rights are concerned. That sentence she spoke alone was the reason she needed to be destroyed. Without the fear of losing your property, there is no control over your behavior. There's no control over your prosperity. There's no control over you as a person. THAT cannot be allowed to happen when the state is all powerful. We have not lived in a free country since 1913. The illusion of freedom is what we have. We are free so long as we have the ability to pay. That is not freedom. That is servitude, and Medina was telling the truth. She paid lipservice to these two liars, in order to get them off her back, and to make herself look a little less fringe. She should have told Alex Jones to screw off. She didn't need his support. In fact, Truth, and Integrity never need the support of conmen. People like Jones and Beck, are paid liars. Jones is getting PAID to do what he does. Jones is part of the machine, the state. He's the Pied Piper of the lunatic fringe, a fringe that must be kept in check. It's why I don't really give a damn what Alex Jones or any of the morons in the propaganda ministry have to say. If Medina wins, and she stands strong on her principles, giving property rights back to the people, then people like Jones and Beck will have failed in their agenda to destroy freedom for their masters. Which is exactly what this whole thing has been about. It's about ensuring that the seed of freedom doesn't get planted in fertile soil. Heaven knows that our leaders and media have spread around enough bullshit for the ground to be extremely fertile for revolt.
It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.
That's great that you are all demanding and getting refunds. I havent been online since i wrote the article but i was listening to alex show on the rebroadcast via cell phone (512 464 5000) today and heard that in the second hour he really blew up over this, and quoted my article about medina. ha! if i had a bit part in exposing this dopey fraud medina i am overjoyed. she is real 'despicable'. ha ha!! ;-D
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 sorry, Tommy, i don't agree with you this time on Alex. Alex had Medina on his show two or three times to give her publicity and she got a lot of support and donations because of it. never once did Alex ask her her views on 9/11. this destruction was Medina's doing. these were her own words. Alex had nothing to do with it. in fact, it was Artisan who brought the Mark Davis interview to Alex's attention with his article posted here yesterday. Alex didn't originate it. imo, it would have been remiss of Alex not to discuss this. i bet you didn't listen to what he had to say. you might just have a different opinion if you had heard all of it. and, btw, Alex did an outstanding interview of James Traficant last week too. no holds barred on Israel and AIPAC. i make an effort to give credit to everyone, friend or foe, where its due.
imo, it would have been remiss of Alex not to discuss this. i bet you didn't listen to what he had to say. you might just have a different opinion if you had heard all of it. and, btw, Alex did an outstanding interview of James Traficant last week too. no holds barred on Israel and AIPAC. i make an effort to give credit to everyone, friend or foe, where its due. I agree 110% ... very well stated ! I think many of us are very watchful of Jones, who by the way was very active in the Patriot community long before 9-11 unlike Beck, Hannity and others that weren't on the radar until after 9-11. Jones supported the Branch Davidians and exposed the government murderers long, long before Beck got sober enough to host a radio program. Jones isn't perfect by any stretch, but who brings more relevant guests to the radio than he ? Alex "may" have been a little too upset about Medina's remarks but 9-11 Truth is critical and the truth needs to be exposed, not deemed an absurdity. Truth seekers, even if wrong, are not despicable for asking questions. Alex Jones supported Medina 100 % until she made those ABSURD and DESPICABLE remarks. His taking a different position towards Medina was the ONLY honest thing to do even though it may sting for awhile. Mark Davis made it clear that his view of people that might think some elements of the Bush Administration or the government of the U.S. were involved in the WTC attack were DESPICABLE while ignoring the FACT that the government has done nothing to dissuade truthers and much to convince them that they're right. Just like Beck's interview of Medina, Davis' interview was aimed directly at making Medina irrelevant but more importantly the intent was to alienate people that question UNCLE SAMBO on 9-11 because if the truth about 9-11 firmly indicates that there was Bush Administration, CIA, or MOSSAD involvment, the government of the US is finished. There are men in the US Govt., the CIA, the FBI, Naval Intelligence, the MOSSAD, MI-6, ISI, SAVAK and other intelligence services that have overthrown many governments by using methods proven to work for hundreds if not thousands of years. They have assassinated the best of them, like Caesar and Kennedy, so it's bullshit to act as if all of a sudden under the little faggot Bush they have taken on an air of innocence. And let us never forget that Bush tried to appoint Heinz Kissinger (a war criminal responsible for numerous assassinations and government overthrows) to head up the 9-11 Commission. Wake the fuck up America ... please.
Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.
I doubt that will happen because most people are hypnotized by the TV, media and education system. If we are invaded by foreign countries and the propaganda machine is dismantled and exposed like happened in say Nazi Germany the truth about 9/11 may become mainstream, but even then it would be twisted with key facts left out and false ones added in. I guess that those of us who realize the truth will always be a few left to argue about it in futility.
can you post a url that leads to that interview? i cant seem to find it. EDIT: nevermind, i found it. israel stuff starts in second segment fourth segment, 4:40 into segment fifth segment, 0:20 into segment, which degenerates into a infomercial for israel and alex jones.
You're probably correct ... I don't think that means we have any less responsibility to try and expose the truth. Sucks don't it !!!
Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.
Keeps me coming back :-)
This is exactly right. It is even more true in Texas, which is literally Constitutionally opposed to income taxes. So when Rick Perry, the public school mafia and others dependent on the property tax saw that she was gaining traction last month, they put in a call to the national media to PLEASE come down here and SOMEHOW destroy her. It didn't take long to do so. Her inexperience killed her and her candidacy now deserves to die. She revealed she lacked integrity when she started flip-flopping. Beck "Swiftboated" her and then symbolically "French kissed" Rick Perry within seconds after finishing the attack.
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
Good work, again, Amigo...
That sounds right.
yes. he was and i don't blame him one bit for calling Medina out on her comments. he expressed my feelings exactly. great post, Doug
yes. i am interested to see if Debra issues a retraction and/or apology now.
Thanks, I appreciate your honesty and dedication to it very much. This is not the time that we should deceive ourselves or be deceived by those claiming to be honest. Nor is it a time to make rash decisions based upon hasty judgments. Being addicted to this 4UM, I am constantly noticed of fresh violations of humanity every day and the effect is to lessen the impact of those other violations that happened further in the past. We can never let 9-11 disappear into the past.
Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.
As long as I can I'm going to preach it, wear my t-shirts and talk it up to any ignoramus sheeple that is interested...
Medina said the right thing from the start - then later blew it. Clearly she is an amateur politician. My point is that we should not condemn citizen politicians for being politically naïve. Sadly in this case Medina showed no character - she did not defend free speech. Bad on her. As to the Truthers - in my mind there must be another investigation - with NO Jews involved. We all have our own pet questions that needs to be answered. My first is that NATO was not active that day - how can this be? Sorry - but someone had to tip of whomever about that day. I may be naive, but I do not think that Bush, Cheney, or Rumsfeld new beforehand that 9/11 was going to happen - but surly people below them did.
I think old man Bush runs a rogue element within the CIA that teams up with MOSSAD and uses contract agents to carry out their evil deeds. I think they used Cubans at the Bay of Pigs, at Dallas on Nov.22,1963, and at the Watergate Hotel. I think they used Arab contract agents for the OKC Bombings (John Does 1,2,and 3), WTC I (the blind sheik gang), and 9-11 (19 missing or never present Arabs).
Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.
Ditto, Bro !
Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.
I believe that both the RFK and JFK killings were Mossad done. But I do not believe that there was a actual conspiracy between any US president and the Mossad.
We can agree to disagree on this one. I'd recommend watching JFK II by John Hankey on Google Video. He presents a very good case against the Bush family.
Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.
#2. To: Jethro Tull (#1)
#3. To: christine (#0)
AJ says he's withdrawing his support of Medina if she doesn't issue an apology on her comment about truthers
#4. To: noone222, christine, Jethro Tull (#3)
AJ says he's withdrawing his support of Medina if she doesn't issue an apology on her comment about truthers
#5. To: Jethro Tull (#1)
I want my money back (again)
#6. To: Original_Intent (#4)
#7. To: christine, Jethro Tull, all (#2)
#8. To: noone222 (#5)
#9. To: noone222 (#6)
She's as dumb as Palin !
#10. To: All (#0)
#11. To: Lod (#7)
Whoever, if anyone, was prepping her for these appearances should be shot.
#12. To: christine (#10)
#13. To: Jethro Tull, christine, noone222, Cynicom, all (#8)
Local, KLBJ radio, poll here -
#14. To: Artisan (#10)
#15. To: christine (#10)
suggested that all of us who supported her and sent money call her campaign expressing our disgust.
#16. To: Jethro Tull, Christine, Phant2000, All Americans (#1)
#17. To: Lod (#13)
#18. To: christine (#14)
#19. To: Cynicom (#16)
#20. To: Jethro Tull (#17)
#21. To: Jethro Tull (#17)
I just voted for the A-Rab.
#22. To: christine (#0)
#23. To: Cynicom (#18)
Perhaps it would be well for others that have donated to request a refund and be sure to include the reason why.
#24. To: noone222 (#23)
Hell yes, and it might make the news if enough people start demanding their money back.
#25. To: Cynicom (#24)
Medina had a good start but stumbled badly.
#26. To: noone222 (#25)
She isn't smart enough to do the job.
#27. To: christine (#0)
#28. To: noone222 (#25)
#29. To: Cynicom (#24)
#30. To: Cynicom (#26)
I believe she would be moral enough.
#31. To: groundresonance (#27)
you gotta start wondering if this was a coordinated effort between jones and beck.
#32. To: Jethro Tull, groundresonance (#31)
you gotta start wondering if this was a coordinated effort between jones and beck.
#33. To: Jethro Tull (#31)
she made the decision to flip-flop.
#34. To: noone222, Jethro Tull (#33)
My dad once told me that you can't con an honest man. If Medina got conned it was only because she wasn't honest.
#35. To: TwentyTwelve (#32)
Alex Jones had nothing to do with what she said.
#36. To: Jethro Tull (#29)
#37. To: Lod (#28)
#38. To: groundresonance (#27)
#39. To: Jethro Tull (#29)
That said, I'm requesting a refund.
#40. To: christine (#38)
no way
#41. To: Cynicom (#39)
Too late.
#42. To: noone222 (#25)
Medina had a good start but stumbled badly.
#43. To: TwentyTwelve, noone222, Jethro Tull (#34)
My dad once told me that you can't con an honest man. If Medina got conned it was only because she wasn't honest.
#44. To: noone222, everypone that thought this bitch was The Answer To All Of Our Problems (#35)
(Edited)
I don't want it to be some whishy-washy milque-toast, flip-flopper. ...
die kill ~~ Me
#45. To: Jethro Tull (#29)
#46. To: groundresonance (#40)
#47. To: PSUSA (#44)
#48. To: christine (#46)
(Edited)
it was her own words. alex jones wasn't controlling her.
#49. To: PSUSA (#44)
#50. To: Cynicom (#47)
die kill ~~ Me
#51. To: PSUSA (#50)
Dont like it
#52. To: christine (#49)
#53. To: groundresonance (#48)
does alex have to make a big issue of the situation now, after the beck fiasco and medina's backpeddling?
#54. To: PSUSA (#44)
#55. To: TwentyTwelve (#53)
(Edited)
This is huge news.
#56. To: Cynicom, PSUSA (#47)
To: PSUSA Your obscene language aside
#57. To: Lod (#7)
Beyond maddening here.
#58. To: scooter (#57)
(Edited)
It's really unfortunate because Texas will be shackled with the slime bag Perry or the war criminal Hutchinson. As painful as her words were regarding 9/11, I would still support her
#59. To: christine, All (#0)
#60. To: Eric Stratton (#59)
#61. To: PSUSA, noone222 (#44)
#62. To: Original_Intent (#61)
A. noone is a lady and agree or disagree your language brands you as anything but a gentleman.
#63. To: scooter (#57)
It's really unfortunate because Texas will be shackled with the slime bag Perry or the war criminal Hutchinson. As painful as her words were regarding 9/11, I would still support her and I would encourage others in Texas to let the emotion of the situation die down for a day or two before withdrawing support through votes and/or dollars. Flame away and make whatever opinions you want out of that, but that's my position on the matter and I'm not likley moving from it.
#64. To: Sam Houston (#60)
Jones is really letting Medina have it here during the last 10 minutes of his show.
#65. To: Original_Intent (#61)
#66. To: Cynicom, Jethro Tull, Rotara, christine, TwentyTwelve, wudidiz, all (#45)
But Medina's detractors -- as well as several independent analysts -- say she may have self-destructed in a Feb. 11 interview with conservative commentator Glenn Beck by not immediately disavowing a theory that the U.S. government may have played a role in the 9-11 terrorist attacks.
#67. To: christine (#62)
#68. To: noone222 (#65)
You really think my lady-like behavior is that obvious ???
#69. To: christine (#62)
#70. To: Original_Intent (#66)
the main thrust of the media comment is to reinforce that it is not allowed to question the 911 Scriptures and that regardless of how many contradictions appear one is required to believe as a condition of Public Office - or be eviscerated in public by the controlled mediawhores.
#71. To: Original_Intent (#68)
even when she's being a vulgar bitch. ;-)
#72. To: Sam Houston (#60)
#73. To: Lod (#63)
She surely could have turned the table on her tormentors by asking if they weren't for finding out the truth about any situation or problem in our country, and let it go at that.
#74. To: scooter (#57)
I said it then that Beck's ambush would likely work and she would spend the rest of her campaign defending her statement and then having to go back and re-define it over and over again. She did all that and finally stuck her foot in her mouth. And if none of that had worked, the final nail in her coffin was delivered the second the plane hit the IRS building in Austin. The media has had a field day with the anti-tax and limited government movement with this and they don't have to say Medina's name in order for that broad brush to paint her with it.
#75. To: christine. all (#73)
#76. To: christine (#74)
#77. To: PSUSA (#44)
Now when another candidate says a few trigger phrases and words that give you a hard-on, or wet panties, think back to this time.
#78. To: Original_Intent (#66)
B. This is more PsyOps i.e., the main thrust of the media comment is to reinforce that it is not allowed to question the 911 Scriptures and that regardless of how many contradictions appear one is required to believe as a condition of Public Office - or be eviscerated in public by the controlled mediawhores.
Lord Acton
#79. To: groundresonance (#58)
which begs the question: why bother supporting anyone?
#80. To: Lod (#63)
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#81. To: scooter (#79)
(Edited)
still hold out hope for local and state offices
#82. To: Original_Intent (#66)
#83. To: scooter (#79)
#84. To: Cynicom (#82)
#85. To: christine (#83)
#86. To: christine (#84)
did you get a refund? did you get a refund?
#87. To: groundresonance (#85)
#88. To: Original_Intent (#61)
Agreement and disagreement do not have to be expressed in tasteless displays of vulgarity.
die kill ~~ Me
#89. To: christine (#87)
(Edited)
so you approve of alex whacking away on the dead horse.
#90. To: PSUSA (#88)
Stay out of it.
#91. To: christine (#87)
#92. To: James Deffenbach (#78)
One must have the capacity to believe in many impossible things to believe the establishment's insane conspiracy theory about 9/11.
#93. To: groundresonance (#91)
#94. To: PSUSA (#88)
#95. To: Cynicom (#82)
OI...
#96. To: Original_Intent. all (#95)
#97. To: Lod, All (#96)
#98. To: Lod (#96)
#99. To: noone222 (#35)
Alex Jones had nothing to do with what she said.
#100. To: christine (#83)
Ron Paul didn't flipflop nor did he say that those who hold truther beliefs are despicable. Ron Paul did say though, IIRC, that 9/11 truthers sure weren't helping him. AJ said several times that it wasn't Medina's own 911 position that troubled him, it was that she flipflopped and, in the process, threw all those who have questions that supported her, under the bus.
#101. To: TwentyTwelve. all (#99)
#102. To: Original_Intent, Lod (#98)
After AJ's tirade today I expect her numbers to rapidly erode. She may ride a little ways on momentum, but she even if she were to win the nomination, which she won't, she'll lose in the General.
#103. To: Lod (#101)
Throw a dart at the phone book and they're my guy.
#104. To: Original_Intent (#95)
I still have to wonder if she was forced to recant?
#105. To: TwentyTwelve, all (#102)
After AJ's tirade today I expect her numbers to rapidly erode. She may ride a little ways on momentum, but she even if she were to win the nomination, which she won't, she'll lose in the General.
#106. To: christine (#97)
#107. To: Cynicom (#104)
I still have to wonder if she was forced to recant?
#108. To: christine (#97)
(Edited)
You guys have no idea of the pressure that she's constantly under... no idea!
#109. To: Original_Intent (#92)
2. When presented with contradictory data people are unwilling or unable to sort through the information and draw a sound conclusion. The Skool Systum not only no longer teaches reading properly, but history, and as important as reading - logic and sound reasoning.
Lord Acton
#110. To: Lod (#96)
It's a dopey poll, 'cause you can "only vote, once an hour."
Lord Acton
#111. To: James Deffenbach (#109)
It seems that a lot of folks believe that thinking is strenuous activity that they aren't getting paid to do and therefore refuse to do it.
#112. To: Original_Intent (#111)
Lord Acton
#113. To: Lod (#63)
She surely could have turned the table on her tormentors by asking if they weren't for finding out the truth about any situation or problem in our country, and let it go at that.
#114. To: All (#105)
#115. To: James Deffenbach (#110)
LOL! You think people are "freeping" that poll?
#116. To: your_neighbor (#42)
What - she wasn't smart enough to lie?
#117. To: noone222 (#116)
The governments explanation is pure bullshit and Americans have been putting up with this crap for far too long. The more it's tolerated the more it will occur.
#118. To: Mister Clean, noone222 (#117)
Most Americans have obviously decided that 9/11 "truth" is bullshit.
#119. To: TwentyTwelve (#118)
Most Sheeple have obviously decided that 9/11 "truth" is bullshit.
#120. To: Mister Clean (#119)
Most Sheeple have obviously decided that 9/11 "truth" is bullshit.
#121. To: TwentyTwelve (#120)
You don't think that most Americans are sheeple?
#122. To: TwentyTwelve (#118)
Most Americans have obviously decided that 9/11 "truth" is bullshit.
#123. To: Mister Clean (#119)
#124. To: noone222 (#122)
(Edited)
Would you mind explaining why you addressed this post to me ? I don't get it.
#125. To: Mister Clean (#117)
Most Americans have obviously decided that 9/11 "truth" is bullshit.
#126. To: randge (#123)
--
Toruk Makto
#127. To: abraxas (#125)
Where do you get this disinformation?
#128. To: Mister Clean (#127)
If a majority of Americans believe in 9/11 "truth" why aren't they demanding a new investigation like the "truthers" demand? If these numbers are accurate why is nothing happening?
#129. To: Mister Clean (#127)
#130. To: abraxas (#128)
The MSM has a dismal track record, not only on 911
#131. To: Mister Clean (#130)
Wait! How do you explain the high poll numbers you posted?
#132. To: abraxas (#131)
Why don't you explain them?
#133. To: Ferret Mike (#126)
(Edited)
LE SLIP!
#134. To: noone222 (#116)
#135. To: christine (#0)
#136. To: christine, jethro tull, cynicom, twentytwelve, lod, noone222, original_intent, wudidiz, rotara, psusa (#36)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#137. To: TommyTheMadArtist, Artisan (#135)
(Edited)
#138. To: christine, TommyTheMadArtist, Artisan (#137)
(Edited)
sorry, Tommy, i don't agree with you this time on Alex. Alex had Medina on his show two or three times to give her publicity and she got a lot of support and donations because of it. never once did Alex ask her her views on 9/11. this destruction was Medina's doing. these were her own words. Alex had nothing to do with it. in fact, it was Artisan who brought the Mark Davis interview to Alex's attention with his article posted here yesterday. Alex didn't originate it.
#139. To: noone222 (#138)
...because if the truth about 9-11 firmly indicates that there was Bush Administration, CIA, or MOSSAD involvment, the government of the US is finished.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#140. To: christine (#137)
(Edited)
Alex did an outstanding interview of James Traficant last week too. no holds barred on Israel and AIPAC.
second segement, 10:00 into segment
#141. To: wudidiz (#139)
I guess that those of us who realize the truth will always be a few left to argue about it in futility.
#142. To: noone222 (#141)
I don't think that means we have any less responsibility to try and expose the truth.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#143. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#135)
The key statement she made was about property rights and property taxes. We do not own anything, as we are tenants on the state's land... That sentence she spoke alone was the reason she needed to be destroyed.
#144. To: Artisan (#136)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#145. To: Sam Houston (#143)
So when Rick Perry, the public school mafia and others dependent on the property tax saw that she was gaining traction last month, they put in a call to the national media to PLEASE come down here and SOMEHOW destroy her. It didn't take long to do so. Her inexperience killed her and her candidacy now deserves to die. She revealed she lacked integrity when she started flip-flopping. Beck "Swiftboated" her and then symbolically "French kissed" Rick Perry within seconds after finishing the attack.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#146. To: noone222 (#138)
Alex Jones supported Medina 100 % until she made those ABSURD and DESPICABLE remarks. His taking a different position towards Medina was the ONLY honest thing to do even though it may sting for awhile.
#147. To: Sam Houston (#143)
Her inexperience killed her and her candidacy now deserves to die. She revealed she lacked integrity when she started flip-flopping. Beck "Swiftboated" her and then symbolically "French kissed" Rick Perry within seconds after finishing the attack.
#148. To: christine (#146)
#149. To: noone222 (#148)
We can never let 9-11 disappear into the past.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#150. To: noone222 (#116)
(Edited)
#151. To: your_neighbor (#150)
but I do not think that Bush, Cheney, or Rumsfeld new beforehand that 9/11 was going to happen - but surly people below them did.
#152. To: Rotara (#149)
I'm going to preach it, wear my t-shirts and talk it up to any ignoramus sheeple that is interested...
#153. To: noone222 (#151)
#154. To: your_neighbor (#153)
But I do not believe that there was a actual conspiracy between any US president and the Mossad.
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