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Title: AJ says he's withdrawing his support of Medina if she doesn't issue an apology on her comment about truthers
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Post Date: 2010-02-23 13:18:18 by christine
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#51. To: PSUSA (#50)

Dont like it

No, I do not.

If such language is needed to express yourself, I would suggest you have a problem. It reminds me somewhat of a very immature young man.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-02-23   14:47:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: christine (#49)

i spose there's a remote chance that medina could backtrack again, apologize for calling truthers despicable, and finesse it in such a way that she recoups some of the lost ground...

but she'd have to tell the whole truth, not just about 9/11, but also about the neocon machinery that's controlling the media and the political process.

a very long shot.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-23   14:50:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: groundresonance (#48)

does alex have to make a big issue of the situation now, after the beck fiasco and medina's backpeddling?

Yes.

This is huge news.

She needs to be exposed as a traitor.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2010-02-23   14:52:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: PSUSA (#44)

How do you get power to your computer under that bridge, Troll ?

You're extremely hasty to make judgments that more mature minds ponder for certainty. You do have a chip on your shoulder and a huge block on top of your neck.

Fuck off !

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-23   14:57:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: TwentyTwelve (#53) (Edited)

This is huge news.

She needs to be exposed as a traitor.

i doubt if this is very huge news to anyone outside texas... although it could become huge news if medina found a venue she could use to tell the whole truth.

like i said in the posts above, because of her inexperience, she was ambushed and responded badly.

there's a remote chance she'd be willing to tell the whole truth in an effort to redeem herself, but it's unlikely she'd be allowed a platform.

do you think, for instance, alex jones would allow her on his air to run through walt and mearsheimer's explanation of how america works?

not likely...

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-23   14:59:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Cynicom, PSUSA (#47)

To: PSUSA Your obscene language aside

Do you kiss your mom with that nasty mouth, punk ?

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-23   15:01:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Lod (#7)

Beyond maddening here.

Whoever, if anyone, was prepping her for these appearances should be shot.

It's very frustrating and a clear warning to "grass roots" folk everywhere they need to be prepared to have an answer to this question for the Glen Beck's of the world. Say what you want about Jesse Ventura, but he would have given Beck a good dressing down if he had used the Medina tactics and questioning. Also remember Beck steamrolled Paul then warmed up to him and in the process changed his tune to sound more libertarian. I can easily see how the next person, unfortunately Medina, allowed their guard to be down and got ambushed. I said it then that Beck's ambush would likely work and she would spend the rest of her campaign defending her statement and then having to go back and re-define it over and over again. She did all that and finally stuck her foot in her mouth. And if none of that had worked, the final nail in her coffin was delivered the second the plane hit the IRS building in Austin. The media has had a field day with the anti-tax and limited government movement with this and they don't have to say Medina's name in order for that broad brush to paint her with it.

It's really unfortunate because Texas will be shackled with the slime bag Perry or the war criminal Hutchinson. As painful as her words were regarding 9/11, I would still support her and I would encourage others in Texas to let the emotion of the situation die down for a day or two before withdrawing support through votes and/or dollars. Flame away and make whatever opinions you want out of that, but that's my position on the matter and I'm not likley moving from it.

"What began in Russia will end in America."- 1930, Elder Ignatius of Harbin, Manchuria.

scooter  posted on  2010-02-23   15:20:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: scooter (#57) (Edited)

It's really unfortunate because Texas will be shackled with the slime bag Perry or the war criminal Hutchinson. As painful as her words were regarding 9/11, I would still support her

which begs the question: why bother supporting anyone?

do you think medina's so stupid she hasnt learned her lesson from this incident?

i'm really sorry, but i had to ask that question...

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-23   15:31:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: christine, All (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-23   15:32:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Eric Stratton (#59)

Jones is really letting Medina have it here during the last 10 minutes of his show.

Very entertaining to listen to this, although it didn't have to be this way, Debra.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2010-02-23   15:54:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: PSUSA, noone222 (#44)

A. noone is a lady and agree or disagree your language brands you as anything but a gentleman.

B. You are out of order and over the top.

Agreement and disagreement do not have to be expressed in tasteless displays of vulgarity. Sometimes it is handy for getting people's attention but then it is a device rather than a childish temper tantrum.

I suppose you would like to assert your own perfection, but for some reason you would seem to fall short. How shocking.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-02-23   15:54:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Original_Intent (#61)

A. noone is a lady and agree or disagree your language brands you as anything but a gentleman.

noone is Doug, a guy. ;)

christine  posted on  2010-02-23   15:57:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: scooter (#57)

It's really unfortunate because Texas will be shackled with the slime bag Perry or the war criminal Hutchinson. As painful as her words were regarding 9/11, I would still support her and I would encourage others in Texas to let the emotion of the situation die down for a day or two before withdrawing support through votes and/or dollars. Flame away and make whatever opinions you want out of that, but that's my position on the matter and I'm not likley moving from it.

Agree.

Who knows if she's seen any of Ventura's Conspiracy tv shows, or seen any of the videos that many of us have seen?

She surely could have turned the table on her tormentors by asking if they weren't for finding out the truth about any situation or problem in our country, and let it go at that.

She could have capitalized on the massive distrust of career politicians and .gov in general much more than she did (which is the reason she had gathered so much support and attention).

Lod  posted on  2010-02-23   15:58:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Sam Houston (#60)

Jones is really letting Medina have it here during the last 10 minutes of his show.

Very entertaining to listen to this, although it didn't have to be this way, Debra.

AJ is absolutely right.

christine  posted on  2010-02-23   15:59:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Original_Intent (#61)

You really think my lady-like behavior is that obvious ???

Ha hahahaha !!!

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-23   15:59:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Cynicom, Jethro Tull, Rotara, christine, TwentyTwelve, wudidiz, all (#45)

But Medina's detractors -- as well as several independent analysts -- say she may have self-destructed in a Feb. 11 interview with conservative commentator Glenn Beck by not immediately disavowing a theory that the U.S. government may have played a role in the 9-11 terrorist attacks.

The former Wharton County Republican chairwoman quickly sought to repair the damage, saying there was no doubt that Muslim terrorists flew the hijacked planes on 9-11. Medina now says she believes the incident may have strengthened her candidacy by galvanizing supporters, positioning her for a strong showing against her two Republican rivals.

If she believes that is true, she is riding the Titanic.

A. I doubt she believes it. Her campaign is now dead, over, washed up, through. It may be that she was intimidated into compliance, bought into compliance, or was stupid enough to believe what her new team of Intel Operators was telling her she believed.

B. This is more PsyOps i.e., the main thrust of the media comment is to reinforce that it is not allowed to question the 911 Scriptures and that regardless of how many contradictions appear one is required to believe as a condition of Public Office - or be eviscerated in public by the controlled mediawhores.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-02-23   15:59:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: christine (#62)

Thanks !!!

I was away from the computer, but not long enough for a sex change !

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-23   16:00:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: noone222 (#65)

You really think my lady-like behavior is that obvious ???

Ha hahahaha !!!

A gentleman always treats a lady as a lady - even when she's being a vulgar bitch. ;-)

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-02-23   16:00:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: christine (#62)

Oh, my apologies - I thought noone was a woman. My bad. Thanks.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-02-23   16:01:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Original_Intent (#66)

the main thrust of the media comment is to reinforce that it is not allowed to question the 911 Scriptures and that regardless of how many contradictions appear one is required to believe as a condition of Public Office - or be eviscerated in public by the controlled mediawhores.

Absolutely !

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-23   16:02:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Original_Intent (#68)

even when she's being a vulgar bitch. ;-)

Now, this is closer ... I am a vulgar bitch every now and again.

Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.

noone222  posted on  2010-02-23   16:04:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Sam Houston (#60)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-02-23   16:08:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Lod (#63)

She surely could have turned the table on her tormentors by asking if they weren't for finding out the truth about any situation or problem in our country, and let it go at that.

She could have capitalized on the massive distrust of career politicians and .gov in general much more than she did (which is the reason she had gathered so much support and attention).

that's it, Jim.

christine  posted on  2010-02-23   16:19:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: scooter (#57)

I said it then that Beck's ambush would likely work and she would spend the rest of her campaign defending her statement and then having to go back and re-define it over and over again. She did all that and finally stuck her foot in her mouth. And if none of that had worked, the final nail in her coffin was delivered the second the plane hit the IRS building in Austin. The media has had a field day with the anti-tax and limited government movement with this and they don't have to say Medina's name in order for that broad brush to paint her with it.

i think you're right about that.

the bottom line, however, with Debra, is that if she were truly the honest and principled woman we thought she was, she would not have flipflopped.

christine  posted on  2010-02-23   16:25:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: christine. all (#73)

Break in the snow, so it's time to lasso the lads and hit the streets.

Lod  posted on  2010-02-23   16:28:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: christine (#74)

according to the polls, medina's got 20%...

do you approve of alex jones continuing to beat this dead horse?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-23   16:29:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: PSUSA (#44)

Now when another candidate says a few trigger phrases and words that give you a hard-on, or wet panties, think back to this time.

All I needed to know was she married a Mexican.

The only real problem anti-immigration types have with the non-whites already here is that they won't adopt Haitians.

They "refuse to assimilate." Their "culture is incompatible."

THAT is not our problem.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2010-02-23   16:35:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Original_Intent (#66)

B. This is more PsyOps i.e., the main thrust of the media comment is to reinforce that it is not allowed to question the 911 Scriptures and that regardless of how many contradictions appear one is required to believe as a condition of Public Office - or be eviscerated in public by the controlled mediawhores.

...Alice laughed. `There's no use trying,' she said `one ca'n't believe impossible things.'

`I daresay you haven't had much practice,' said the Queen. `When I was your age, I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast..."

Through the Looking Glass, chapter 5, Wool and Water

One must have the capacity to believe in many impossible things to believe the establishment's insane conspiracy theory about 9/11.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-02-23   16:35:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: groundresonance (#58)

which begs the question: why bother supporting anyone?

do you think medina's so stupid she hasnt learned her lesson from this incident?

i'm really sorry, but i had to ask that question...

I still hold out hope for local and state offices and I cling to any glimmer of hope with the national ones.

I would hope she's learned her lesson though it is too late for her. I think she has been given some bad advise and talking points. Take a step back for a moment. Most people want a decent paying job, spend time with their family, live in peace and get the government off their back. We're a mobile society and for better or worse, people don't take or don't have the time to really question and research events. Take Medina's first comments on Beck and those sound a bit extreme. Now combine that with her recent remarks and she's gone to the other extreme. She was probably told she had alienated a lot of people with her first response and on recent comments she's managed to alienate the other spectrum. There are any number of ways she should have handled this from the first event, but jumping from one pole to the other has given Perry, Hutchinson and their acolytes nothing but continuous canon fodder to not only ruin her shot but damage the limited government and taxation cause as well. Most people are going to see a flip flop on such a hot button issue and then move on to decide between Perry or Hutchinson.

I don't understand the disconnect with Alex here. Ron Paul has denied a lot of Truther claims on 9/11 and Jones gives him a pass. Has Alex ever sat down with Ron Paul to address specific 9/11 questions? I don't think he has. So I don't understand the pass with Paul and continuing to press Medina on it. Alex could have just let it be and hammer away on limited government and taxation in an effort to revitalize her campaign.

"What began in Russia will end in America."- 1930, Elder Ignatius of Harbin, Manchuria.

scooter  posted on  2010-02-23   16:41:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Lod (#63)

Medina may have been good for the citizens of Texas.

First commandment of the New judeo Century: Thou shalt not allow anything that benefits the citizens.

The tribe's excuse for attacking Medina was because she ran afoul of the tribe's official 911 cover story.

She tried to backtrack and climb into bed with the tribe.

Then the tribe finished her off. End of story.

Texas and America lose again. Better luck next time!

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2010-02-23   16:52:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: scooter (#79) (Edited)

still hold out hope for local and state offices

seems likely to me that the kommissars will begin to screen candidates for political reliability before they run for dogcatcher.

you got to wonder how medina got as far as she did before she got stepped on ...unless she was intended to be an object lesson.

and our pudgy friend is demonstrating his true character, isnt he?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-23   16:52:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Original_Intent (#66)

OI...

After receiving my refund..rereading the wording, I suspect I was not the first to ask for my donation back.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-02-23   16:58:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: scooter (#79)

Ron Paul didn't flipflop nor did he say that those who hold truther beliefs are despicable. Ron Paul did say though, IIRC, that 9/11 truthers sure weren't helping him. AJ said several times that it wasn't Medina's own 911 position that troubled him, it was that she flipflopped and, in the process, threw all those who have questions that supported her, under the bus.

christine  posted on  2010-02-23   16:59:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Cynicom (#82)

did you get a refund?

christine  posted on  2010-02-23   17:00:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: christine (#83)

so you approve of alex whacking away on the dead horse.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-23   17:01:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: christine (#84)

did you get a refund? did you get a refund?

"A $100 credit has been issued back to your Visa card. Please allow up to 2 business days for it to show up on your statement."

Cynicom  posted on  2010-02-23   17:03:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: groundresonance (#85)

that's not how i would characterize it. maybe you should listen to what he said yourself before criticizing and making accusations about AJ's duplicity here.

this is big news here in Texas. he should have talked about it.

christine  posted on  2010-02-23   17:06:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Original_Intent (#61)

Agreement and disagreement do not have to be expressed in tasteless displays of vulgarity.

Was I writing to you? No I wasn't.

Stay out of it.

Bozo is nice. Perhaps you could put me there.

And you, OI, you fuckwit: I have not one time even hinted that I am perfect. I am flawed just like everyone else. Perhaps the main difference is: when political parasites lie to me once, I don't give them a second chance to ever lie to me again. Seems that there are some political masochists that like to be beaten by any politician that says the right soothing words.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-02-23   17:07:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: christine (#87) (Edited)

so you approve of alex whacking away on the dead horse.

that's not how i would characterize it.

what is alex getting out of this?

why must he beat a dead horse?

doesnt he have better things to talk about?

and that's precisely why i dont listen to alex jones... he simply isnt worth the time.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-23   17:09:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: PSUSA (#88)

Stay out of it.

Bozo is nice.

I dont Bozo anyone, never have. There is a reason why.

Everyone has something to add to every discussion, so I read input from all on items of interest. I do object to your abusive use of obscene language, it neither interests me nor impresses me.

I do read with interest most of what you post, just refrain from the obscene.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-02-23   17:12:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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