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Title: EXPLOSIVE NEWS: Push for 911 Investigation
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Washington Times
URL Source: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news ... 2/inside-the-beltway-70128635/
Published: Feb 23, 2010
Author: Jennifer Harper
Post Date: 2010-02-23 17:53:47 by abraxas
Keywords: None
Views: 1257
Comments: 105
By Jennifer Harper INSIDE THE BELTWAY EXPLOSIVE NEWS A lingering technical question about the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks still haunts some, and it has political implications: How did 200,000 tons of steel disintegrate and drop in 11 seconds? A thousand architects and engineers want to know, and are calling on Congress to order a new investigation into the destruction of the Twin Towers and Building 7 at the World Trade Center. "In order to bring down this kind of mass in such a short period of time, the material must have been artificially, exploded outwards," says Richard Gage, a San Francisco architect and founder of the nonprofit Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth. Mr. Gage, who is a member of the American Institute of Architects, managed to persuade more than 1,000 of his peers to sign a new petition requesting a formal inquiry. "The official Federal Emergency Management [Agency] and National Institute of Standards and Technology reports provide insufficient, contradictory and fraudulent accounts of the circumstances of the towers' destruction. We are therefore calling for a grand jury investigation of NIST officials," Mr. Gage adds. The technical issues surrounding the collapse of the towers has prompted years of debate, rebuttal and ridicule. He is particularly disturbed by Building 7, a 47-story skyscraper, which was not hit by an aircraft, yet came down in "pure free-fall acceleration." He also says that more than 100 first-responders reported explosions and flashes as the towers were falling and cited evidence of "multi-ton steel sections ejected laterally 600 ft. at 60 mph" and the "mid-air pulverization of 90,000 tons of concrete & metal decking." There is also evidence of "advanced explosive nano-thermitic composite material found in the World Trade Center dust," Mr. Gage says. The group's petition at www. ae911truth.org is already on its way to members of Congress. "Government officials will be notified that 'Misprision of Treason,' U.S. Code 18 (Sec. 2382), is a serious federal offense, which requires those with evidence of treason to act," Mr. Gage says. "The implications are enormous and may have profound impact on the forthcoming Khalid Shaikh Mohammed trial."
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#1. To: abraxas (#0)
Shadow .gov! this one's not going to be swept under the rug forever.
It's been a long time creeping out from under the rug, Lod. Let's hope this goes somewhere this time. Fingers crossed. : )
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Any true physicist or architect would instantly know the only way those towers collapsed the way they did was by controlled demolition. I'm amazed they didn't all shout at the top of their lungs that the official story was flat out impossible. This is HUGE in that this is in the Washington Times.
It is moving and the glacier is beginning to inch forward. However, the controllers know their necks are on the line and like any self respecting megalomaniac they will fight to keep power. However, I think their edifice is headed for a collapse. I don't know how soon, but soon. Two or Three years maybe. It could be longer but it is going to be collapsed or in collapse by 2015.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Well, it better happen before its all over in 2012.....don't forget that doomsday is looming sometime late in the year. : ) That Medina had her opportunity and she blew it. How long before other candidates opt to embrace the American people and their quest for the truth? I'd like to see this issue BE the litmus test for the next round of elections. That might move this glacier a few feet. The solution is no power without some answers......oust every incumbant that stands in the way. Alas, a tiny little light at the end of the tunnel......
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
It's always been hard to fathom.......but it does feel like we are gaining a little ground finally. I'm happy this one rolled out of the Washington Times too.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Amen - it's all out there in plane sight. This will be fought with every weapon available to them, in order to preserve their entire house of cards.
Those wacky architects - they are loony nut cases - they are all crazy (at least 1,000 of them) --- ask any Jew!
and have a rope ready for their necks for being complicit in this mass murder of American citizens and their part in the cover up. God I hope we have enough rope!
We've all witnessed government financed investigations that held out little hope of learning anything of value like the breeding habits of lightening bugs. To me the need for a real investigation of 9-11 seems all too obvious in light of revelations made by the very members of the 9-11 commission.
Prior to the Federal Reserve Act, no political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American People into one common mass of slaves. Yet, this is exactly what has happened under Social Security, by creating a revenue base for the collection of interest on a fictitious national debt owed to the Federal Reserve banks, in other words, slavery to the national debt under the so-called 14th Amendment.
They must have turned "despicable." ahaha.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. So what are your thoughts on THIS Mr. Clean?
Mr. Gage's efforts are not going to produce the results he seeks.
And you are CERTAIN of this, eh? What about the OTHER 1000 or so engineers and architects who side with him, do you think they can ALL be silenced? Funny thing is, even major shillsters on forums are exposing what I and MANY others have been presenting for years. WTF is up with THAT? I think the traitors are getting their jets ready, the shit is going to be hitting the fan soon, and NOT in their favor.
And you are CERTAIN of this, eh? What about the OTHER 1000 or so engineers and architects who side with him, do you think they can ALL be silenced? Gage wants a grand jury investigation of NIST officials. Ain't gonna happen. Funny thing is, even major shillsters on forums are exposing what I and MANY others have been presenting for years. WTF is up with THAT? I don't know what you're talking about. I think the traitors are getting their jets ready, the shit is going to be hitting the fan soon, and NOT in their favor. If the shit hits the fan it's going to be over the economy not 9/11.
Not if the national headlines are "9/11 WAS an inside job", or "Cheney arrested on treason".
Do you REALLY expect to see such headlines in the Wash. Post or NY Times in the near future?
I'm not. They know their lives and livelihood would be a great risk if they spoke out. The very day it happened I remember radio interviews with students of Georgia Tech saying how it was a "pancake" collapse. This was way before anyone even was talking about that scenario. Without any investigation or even being there they already "knew" what brought them down. They "knew" because their professors told them that is what happened. Their professors were just spreading the propaganda as they had been told to do. The whole 9/11 cover-up is being achieved through intimidation and fear. Most are afraid to go against such powerful criminals who think nothing of killing people.
God is always good!
Ever visit LibertyPost.org? Even hear of a poster named Magician, who was as pro-official 9/11 story as they come? Norman Mineta Confirms That Dick Cheney Ordered Stand Down on 9/11
Does your future depend on that NOT happening?
We'll see. Did you forget that there ARE true patriots who work at the FBI, CIA, and nameless other agencies. Did you think they would all be intimidated?
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
I used to post there until I got banned.
Did you think they would all be intimidated? Well, what are they doing right now? What have they been doing for 9 years. Who is going to convene a grand jury to look into possible charges against NIST officials? Who?
Hopefully, there will be hell to pay on this one.
Maybe Obama has more balls than people give him credit for. Time will tell. However, Congress is ALSO involved, so we'll see what happens with that...
Color me shocked. It must have been like getting kicked out of your sleeping bag at -20 below in a snowstorm. You are an anomaly, Mister Clean--the first goobermint bootlicker to ever get the boot from LP. : P
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
The Justice Dept. won't go after the men who told Bush torture had a legal justification! They're certainly not going to investigate or bring charges agains NIST officials. For the sake of discussion, let's say elements within the government were involved in 9/11... there is no way anyone within the government is going to bust them. Especially in the current climate. The people in positions to make decisions will not do anything that destroys the credibility of the government.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
The "government" controls the Washington Times. There's no way in hell that article would have appeared if it were not something the PTB wanted there. Perhaps, the TOP people were NOT involved, and it WAS a "rogue" operation that a certain faction initiated and carried out. Maybe some traitors WILL hang, who knows...
Allow me to quote myself from a post at LP about the Iraq war... "I see you're one of those losers who thinks that only liberals are against that jackass Bush and his failed war." Strange words coming from a "goobermint bootlicker" don't you think?
#24. To: Veritas (#0) The Browns have been sentenced to five and a half years in prison for tax evasion. They skipped their sentencing hearings, and Ed Brown has said he and his wife will refuse to surrender. They belong in jail. The sooner the better. Mister Clean posted on 2007-06-07 13:16:49 ET Reply Untrace Trace (snip) #65. To: Mister Clean (#52) Yep, they broke the law, went to trial, got convicted and sentenced. The only part of that sentence that is true is they got convicted by an ignorant jury and sentenced by a "judge" who either knows less than nothing about the constitution or is a willing and knowing participant in a con game. But the Browns never broke any law irt "income" taxes. Too bad they had jurors as ignorant as you and calconho seem to be. malador posted on 2007-06-07 13:28:34 ET Reply Untrace Trace #74. To: malador (#65) "Too bad they had jurors as ignorant as you and calconho seem to be." I think the IRS probably needs to audit you or worse. Mister Clean posted on 2007-06-07 13:30:19 ET Reply Untrace Trace #124. To: Mister Clean (#74) "I think the IRS probably needs to audit you or worse." Considering the tone of this article, I think I'm going to take that as a threat to malador... and that's the last one you'll make HERE. Goldi-Lox posted on 2007-06-07 13:51:21 ET Reply Untrace Trace Wow, ig surprise; Cleanie was baiting about 'evil' income tax evaders. And even got banned by Sally over it. You are a bad little gov-mint fresh from some urinal in some government agency somewhere. What was yur GS pay level again? Yo never answered this question I asked you. What agency do you work for too?
I thought the Moonies controlled the Wash. Times.
I think it's just certain people testing the waters. Who knows.
lol......perhaps after 9 years they have finally decided on a scapegoat to protect the guilty and take the fall: )
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Do you pay federal taxes? If you do, you should also be disgusted at tax evaders.
Wow, kill the messenger eh? ANY and EVERY major news outlet is controlled, especially the national capitol's number 2 newspaper...
Cheney would look sweet in an orange jumpsuit.
Don't ask me about my taxes, because that ain't none of your fucking business.
Nope, not strange at all. I said you were a goobermint bootlicker, not a Bush butt kisser.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Not at all. I think the Wash Times is fairly independent. It's the Wash Post that really promotes the government line. I'm just saying that the Rev. Moon's organization, not the government is behind the Times.
You obviously missed the point.
Dick is only up for the scapegoat role if he's six feet under. : )
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Okay, well how do you figure I'm a goobermint bootlicker? Because I take exception to people who try to avoid paying their taxes? Or is it because I'm in favor of tough drunk driving laws? What is it exactly that makes me a goobermint bootlicker?
I got the point; you miss mine.
Mister Clean.......lol. All hail the income tax!! The goobermint account of 911 is absolute gospel!!
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
The Times has a daily circulation of about 100,000 (and growing). The Post about eight times that (and falling). Still the Times is mainstream. And while this is not HUGE, we can say that it is at least LARGE. The UGLY QUESTIONS just won't go away. Just sayin'.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
#111. To: mehitable (#108) "Ya know...you might not be able to understand this, but money is not the sole value for everyone in the world." Money makes the world go round. Mister Clean posted on 2007-06-06 17:43:50 ET Reply Trace (snip) #114. To: Mister Clean (#113) Hey - what DO you do for a living? mehitable posted on 2007-06-06 17:45:14 ET Reply Trace Well? What do you do for a living?
No, I don't think you did so I'll 'splain it to you. Anyone who deliberately avoids paying their taxes is going to piss off the people who do. It's a matter of fairness.
Don't be a drama queen. Tax evaders do not deserve respect nor support.
I'm paid to post disinfo on various Internet forums. Duh!
No shit is going to hit any fan. Not many give a shit about anything but there own damn selves. Fear has crippled Americans and citizens all over the world. Big Brother is always watching and ready and willing to correct wayward children by any means.
God is always good!
Is a piss ant percentage of people controlling or owning the vast majority of property and capital resources of the world fair? What the fuck do you know about fairness? Maye you pay attention to who butters your bread, but you seem to love the majority of people being serfs and slaves to a tiny group of elites. You haven't a clue about what is fair.
And just who does butter your bread?
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Neither do you but you seem to think you are entitled to it. Why does the IRS deserve support? All hail Turbo Tax Timmy heading up the tax collections!! Nothing to see here Looky Lou, just a tax evader running the treasury. Of course, you support Timmy collecting. That's the sort of hypocricy necessary to be dubbed a goobermint bootlicker.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
what tax liability does an American working in America have, cite the law.
That's the first honest thing you've posted
Show Me Obama's Birth Certificate!
"Just like children, you try to educate them, give them good information and hope they make good decisions." Well, that sounds like good advice but I'm looking forward to cigarettes being banned eventually along with trans fat. Mister Clean posted on 2006-12-12 22:36:35 ET Reply Trace You want to Ban cigarettes, love the way the rich and super rich juggle their money around the world to keep most of it free from taxes and anything that would deplete it, ant the poor to pay taxes; or else prison. You want to shape society and keep the majority under the thumb of the few. You are a "society over individual" collectivist, and deserve to be part of the ash heap of history.
"I find it very troubling to envision a society where you have to be so much on guard, and so suspicious," said Claire Ebel, executive director of the New Hampshire Civil Liberties Union. Why would any innocent person feel "suspicious" and "on guard" out in public just because of surveillance cameras? Mister Clean posted on 2007-05-15 15:44:42 ET Reply Trace Sheesh, you support the goobermint putting citizens on candid camera. You are silly enough to think that such an invasion of privacy is linked to guilt or innocence.......now that's some serious goobermint bootlicking. No land of the free for the lot of us according to Mister Goobermint Bootlicker Clean.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
"You think conditions are going to improve?" I don't know but speculation over the use of implantable microchips does not disturb me. Has there ever been a technology forced upon Americans? It seems to me that the marketplace ultimately determines which technologies thrive. Mister Clean posted on 2006-12-11 15:10:42 ET Reply Trace When did we vote for the surveillance cameras everywhere? When did we sign petitions for all the new tech used to control crowds using pain, sickening sound and staining people with dyes to mark them to be apprehended later? When haven't they forced technologies on us? Did we ask to be seen naked by strangers working security at high tech machines at airports? I et there are many here who can refute this post from LP y him with even better examples then I can come up with off the cuff.
Mike, good to see that your eyes have opened, and that you now know, as MANY other people know, you have been betrayed. Let's see if it gets better. Obama has his chance to change things given this very public disclosure of 9/11 treason. Let's see what he does with it.
I'm not threatened by surveillance cameras. Oh and if you're out in public, your privacy can't be invaded by a surveillance camera.
In some cases, yes. Banning cigarettes is such an example of "socitey over individual."
Who said they did?
LOL, I agree, like at monster truck shows, for instance. Imagine the pollution that would result from bystanders smoking cigarettes as thousands of monster trucks came storming down their streets. That smoke could mix with exhaust fumes and create smog, a deadly killer especially of children and the elderly. I'm glad you and your monster truck legions are looking out for us.
"If you think 9/11 "truth" is on the brink of wide acceptance you are in for a huge disappointment" - Mister Clean 02/22/10
No one should if they're not breaking the law. Sig...heil! :)
"If you think 9/11 "truth" is on the brink of wide acceptance you are in for a huge disappointment" - Mister Clean 02/22/10
When did we vote for the surveillance cameras everywhere? When did we sign petitions for all the new tech used to control crowds using pain, sickening sound and staining people with dyes to mark them to be apprehended later? The market decided that surveillance cameras were a useful tool, it's not an issue you can vote on. And when you have low life anarchists who engage in violence instead of peaceful protest, pain weapons are necessary to crush them. When haven't they forced technologies on us? The person was talking about forced microchipping. They haven't forced that on anyone. Did we ask to be seen naked by strangers working security at high tech machines at airports? Don't fly then or ask for a pat down. Nobody is forced to go into the backscatter machines at US airports.
Do you have some examples of innocent people who have been hurt by surveillance cameras? No? I didn't think you did.
LOL, next time you go to a bar that allows smoking, here's a piece of advice: don't breathe
"If you think 9/11 "truth" is on the brink of wide acceptance you are in for a huge disappointment" - Mister Clean 02/22/10
No? I didn't think you did. Thanks for giving me a chance to answer, flowerhead. Your premise is evil, I shant play except to point out how wrong you are from step 1.
"If you think 9/11 "truth" is on the brink of wide acceptance you are in for a huge disappointment" - Mister Clean 02/22/10
Surveillance cameras don't harm innocent people if they did the anti-surveillance camera crowd would have plenty of examples.
This mr clean jerk is always trying to baffle us with bullshit instead of dazzling us with brilliance. just another insignificant jew.
Fine, cunt. Why don't you come to work for me mining coal for minstrel shows?
"If you think 9/11 "truth" is on the brink of wide acceptance you are in for a huge disappointment" - Mister Clean 02/22/10
That's not even the point Mister Clean. Why should our government have any surveillance on citizens? Why? Why should our taxdollars, without a vote or a say by the people, go to purchase any sort of surveillance to watch We The People? Who's goobermint is this anyway? I sure as hell don't want my taxdollars supporting candid cameras. Why should these camaras be used to extort money from the people for traffic violations or anything else for that matter? Some land of the free. Thank you for yet another stellar example of why you are a goobermint bootlicker.......
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
The same reason a private business should: to catch people breaking the law.
Keep asking, keep questioning what motivates him. I got $5 says its.... :)
"If you think 9/11 "truth" is on the brink of wide acceptance you are in for a huge disappointment" - Mister Clean 02/22/10
Why don't you see if you can put a coherent thought together.
Private businesses charged with enforcing public law? That's a new concept, do you have a link authorizing any of this?
"If you think 9/11 "truth" is on the brink of wide acceptance you are in for a huge disappointment" - Mister Clean 02/22/10
bump (fucking Big Government Statist 911 Fairy Tale Whores should be shot on site IMO)
Why don't you dress up as an Alaskan Doll Sheep and do another little dance for me?
"If you think 9/11 "truth" is on the brink of wide acceptance you are in for a huge disappointment" - Mister Clean 02/22/10
We already pay for highway patrol and police departments for that, which we actually have a say in our taxdollars supporting this effort. Private business pays for thier own damn cameras........We the People shouldn't be paying for NANNY STATE to watch us. Only a goobermint bootlicker would support such insanity.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Who said anything about enforcing the law?
We already pay for highway patrol and police departments for that, which we actually have a say in our taxdollars supporting this effort. If you don't speed you won't get busted by a speed camera. If you don't run a red light you won't get busted by a red light camera. See how simple it is? Private business pays for thier own damn cameras........We the People shouldn't be paying for NANNY STATE to watch us. Only a goobermint bootlicker would support such insanity. Have you contacted your representatives and complained about it? I'd bet you haven't.
Uhh, you: "The same reason a private business should: to catch people breaking the law." - MisterClean
"If you think 9/11 "truth" is on the brink of wide acceptance you are in for a huge disappointment" - Mister Clean 02/22/10
Uhh, you: "The same reason a private business should: to catch people breaking the law." - MisterClean I didn't use the word enforce. I said catch. If you don't understand the difference you're an idiot.
The Browns have been sentenced to five and a half years in prison for tax evasion. They skipped their sentencing hearings, and Ed Brown has said he and his wife will refuse to surrender. They belong in jail. The sooner the better. Mister Clean posted on 2007-06-07 13:16:49 ET Reply Untrace Trace Proving with his own words what a government loving stooge he is.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I forgot, you're an artist, the rest of us are white trash when we beat up burglars. Will you be my lawyer for the fucking rapture, nigger?
"If you think 9/11 "truth" is on the brink of wide acceptance you are in for a huge disappointment" - Mister Clean 02/22/10
Did you figure out the difference between "enforce" and "catch?"
I figured that out after a night in jail for whupping on the nigger that stole my bike.
"If you think 9/11 "truth" is on the brink of wide acceptance you are in for a huge disappointment" - Mister Clean 02/22/10
Here's the difference: a surveillance camera will CATCH a criminal breaking the law and the police/courts will ENFORCE the law by arresting, convicting and punishing the criminal. Understand now?
Whose CAMERA, Herr Lieberman?
"If you think 9/11 "truth" is on the brink of wide acceptance you are in for a huge disappointment" - Mister Clean 02/22/10
Doesn't matter. Again, if you know of any innocent people who have been harmed by those eeeeevil surveillance cameras, do tell.
You, for one, it's given you a permanent hard-on for patriots. I always knew you were a molester at heart.
"If you think 9/11 "truth" is on the brink of wide acceptance you are in for a huge disappointment" - Mister Clean 02/22/10
Too bad
there weren't surveillence cameras working, not only on 9-11 at the the twin
towers, which would have given a looksee, but on and working the last few months
24/7. Our government don't like surveillance cameras when they are lookijg at
things that show government agents breaking the law. Remember that gas station
across from the pentagon on 9-11 that had a working surveilance camera that
filmed the cruise missle that hit the Pentagon. Our government confiscated the
tape and I'm sure has destroyed it. The cops hate being taped breaking the law
and violating peoples rights.
I should have documented it and of course can't find it now of course but I saw a couple weeks ago a clip of a prominent official stating flat out that whatever hit the Pentagon on 9/11 was going 2500 miles per hour when it hit, vaporizing everything in its path, punching a hot vapor hole in the third ring.
"If you think 9/11 "truth" is on the brink of wide acceptance you are in for a huge disappointment" - Mister Clean 02/22/10
Twern't no 757 that's for sure.
Funny thing was that the loon I was watching didn't seem to find anything at all wrong with the idea of a 757 going 2500 miles per hour, which made him all the more amusing.
"If you think 9/11 "truth" is on the brink of wide acceptance you are in for a huge disappointment" - Mister Clean 02/22/10
there were several tapes confiscated. why? i'm asking rhetorically.
It never would have happened if the top people weren't involved. If the media ever reveals that 911 was a false flag then the puppets will be blamed. The top will never be blamed by the media.
God is always good!
I wonder if Cheney and BunnyPants would go down without singing about everything...
you are full... er... well...for lack of a better word, yourself!
I doubt they would give them a chance to sing. After they are gone the blame will go to them if the elite think exposing the false flag would be in their interests. Otherwise they will never expose it.
God is always good!
#2. To: Lod (#1)
this one's not going to be swept under the rug forever.
#3. To: abraxas, *9-11* (#0)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#4. To: abraxas (#2)
#5. To: Original_Intent (#4)
Two or Three years maybe. It could be longer but it is going to be collapsed or in collapse by 2015.
#6. To: FormerLurker (#3)
I'm amazed they didn't all shout at the top of their lungs that the official story was flat out impossible.
#7. To: abraxas. all (#2)
Let's hope this goes somewhere this time. Fingers crossed. : )
#8. To: abraxas (#0)
Mr. Gage, who is a member of the American Institute of Architects, managed to persuade more than 1,000 of his peers to sign a new petition requesting a formal inquiry.
#9. To: abraxas, Original_Intent, All (#5)
The solution is no power without some answers......oust every incumbant that stands in the way.
#10. To: abraxas (#0)
#11. To: abraxas (#6)
I'm happy this one rolled out of the Washington Times too.
Lord Acton
#12. To: Mr. Clean (#0)
Title: EXPLOSIVE NEWS: Push for 911 Investigation
Source: Washington Times
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#13. To: FormerLurker (#12)
So what are your thoughts on THIS Mr. Clean?
#14. To: Mister Clean (#13)
Mr. Gage's efforts are not going to produce the results he seeks.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#15. To: FormerLurker (#14)
#16. To: Mister Clean (#15)
If the shit hits the fan it's going to be over the economy not 9/11.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#17. To: FormerLurker (#16)
Not if the national headlines are "9/11 WAS an inside job", or "Cheney arrested on treason".
#18. To: FormerLurker (#3)
(Edited)
I'm amazed they didn't all shout at the top of their lungs that the official story was flat out impossible.
#19. To: Mister Clean (#17)
#20. To: Mister Clean (#15)
I don't know what you're talking about.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#21. To: Mister Clean (#17)
Do you REALLY expect to see such headlines in the Wash. Post or NY Times in the near future?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#22. To: Mister Clean (#15)
Gage wants a grand jury investigation of NIST officials. Ain't gonna happen.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#23. To: Lod, All (#1)
#24. To: FormerLurker (#20)
Ever visit LibertyPost.org? Even hear of a poster named Magician, who was as pro-official 9/11 story as they come?
#25. To: FormerLurker (#22)
We'll see. Did you forget that there ARE true patriots who work at the FBI, CIA, and nameless other agencies.
#26. To: Eric Stratton. all (#23)
This nation's government collapses given the current socio-political climate if the truth of 9/11 becomes believed in a widespread manner. Expect them to pull out all the stops on this one.
#27. To: Mister Clean (#25)
Who is going to convene a grand jury to look into possible charges against NIST officials? Who?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#28. To: Mister Clean (#24)
I used to post there until I got banned.
#29. To: FormerLurker (#27)
Maybe Obama has more balls than people give him credit for. Time will tell.
#30. To: FormerLurker (#3)
#31. To: Mister Clean (#29)
For the sake of discussion, let's say elements within the government were involved in 9/11... there is no way anyone within the government is going to bust them. Especially in the current climate. The people in positions to make decisions will not do anything that destroys the credibility of the government.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#32. To: abraxas (#28)
Color me shocked. It must have been like getting kicked out of your sleeping bag at -20 below in a snowstorm. You are an anomaly, Mister Clean--the first goobermint bootlicker to ever get the boot from LP. : P
#33. To: abraxas, christine, all (#28)
(Edited)
http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=190311&Disp=124&Trace=on#C124
Toruk Makto
#34. To: FormerLurker (#31)
The "government" controls the Washington Times. There's no way in hell that article would have appeared if it were not something the PTB wanted there.
#35. To: Eric Stratton (#30)
Post would be "huge," this is just big.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#36. To: FormerLurker (#31)
Perhaps, the TOP people were NOT involved, and it WAS a "rogue" operation that a certain faction initiated and carried out. Maybe some traitors WILL hang, who knows...
#37. To: Ferret Mike (#33)
What was yur GS pay level again? Yo never answered this question I asked you. What agency do you work for too?
#38. To: Mister Clean (#34)
I thought the Moonies controlled the Wash. Times.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#39. To: abraxas (#36)
lol......perhaps after 9 years they have finally decided on a scapegoat to protect the guilty and take the fall: )
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#40. To: Mister Clean (#37)
Toruk Makto
#41. To: Mister Clean (#32)
Strange words coming from a "goobermint bootlicker" don't you think?
#42. To: FormerLurker (#38)
Wow, kill the messenger eh? ANY and EVERY major news outlet is controlled, especially the national capitol's number 2 newspaper...
#43. To: Ferret Mike (#40)
Don't ask me about my taxes, because that ain't none of your fucking business.
#44. To: FormerLurker (#39)
Cheney would look sweet in an orange jumpsuit.
#45. To: abraxas (#41)
Nope, not strange at all. I said you were a goobermint bootlicker, not a Bush butt kisser.
#46. To: Mister Clean (#43)
Toruk Makto
#47. To: Mister Clean (#45)
(Edited)
What is it exactly that makes me a goobermint bootlicker?
#48. To: Eric Stratton (#30)
#49. To: FormerLurker (#35)
#50. To: Mister Clean (#45)
(Edited)
http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=190195&Disp=111#C111
Toruk Makto
#51. To: Ferret Mike (#46)
I got the point; you miss mine.
#52. To: abraxas (#47)
Mister Clean.......lol. All hail the income tax!! The goobermint account of 911 is absolute gospel!!
#53. To: Ferret Mike (#50)
Well? What do you do for a living?
#54. To: Mister Clean (#15)
If the shit hits the fan it's going to be over the economy not 9/11.
#55. To: Mister Clean (#51)
(Edited)
Toruk Makto
#56. To: Mister Clean (#53)
Toruk Makto
#57. To: randge (#48)
#58. To: Mister Clean (#52)
Tax evaders do not deserve respect nor support.
#59. To: Mister Clean (#51)
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#60. To: Mister Clean (#53)
I'm paid to post disinfo on various Internet forums. Duh!
#61. To: Mister Clean (#53)
(Edited)
#53. To: yukon (#52)
Toruk Makto
#62. To: Mister Clean (#45)
What is it exactly that makes me a goobermint bootlicker?
#63. To: abraxas (#62)
(Edited)
#19. To: Redheadedstranger (#17)
Toruk Makto
#64. To: Ferret Mike (#63)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#65. To: abraxas (#62)
Sheesh, you support the goobermint putting citizens on candid camera. You are silly enough to think that such an invasion of privacy is linked to guilt or innocence.......now that's some serious goobermint bootlicking.
#66. To: Ferret Mike (#61)
You are a "society over individual" collectivist, and deserve to be part of the ash heap of history.
#67. To: abraxas (#58)
Why does the IRS deserve support?
#68. To: Mister Clean (#66)
In some cases, yes. Banning cigarettes is such an example of "socitey over individual."
#69. To: Mister Clean (#65)
I'm not threatened by surveillance cameras.
#70. To: Ferret Mike (#63)
#71. To: Dakmar (#69)
No one should if they're not breaking the law.
#72. To: Mister Clean (#70)
Don't fly then or ask for a pat down.
#73. To: Mister Clean (#71)
Do you have some examples of innocent people who have been hurt by surveillance cameras?
#74. To: Dakmar (#73)
Your premise is evil, I shant play except to point out how wrong you are from step 1.
#75. To: Dakmar (#72)
#76. To: Mister Clean (#74)
Surveillance cameras don't harm innocent people if they did the anti-surveillance camera crowd would have plenty of examples.
#77. To: Mister Clean (#74)
Surveillance cameras don't harm innocent people if they did the anti-surveillance camera crowd would have plenty of examples.
#78. To: abraxas (#77)
Why should our government have any surveillance on citizens?
#79. To: LACUMO (#75)
This mr clean jerk is always trying to baffle us with bullshit instead of dazzling us with brilliance.
#80. To: Dakmar (#76)
Why don't you come to work for me mining coal for minstrel shows?
#81. To: Mister Clean (#78)
The same reason a private business should: to catch people breaking the law.
#82. To: abraxas (#77)
mouth FULL of boot
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#83. To: Mister Clean (#80)
Why don't you see if you can put a coherent thought together.
#84. To: Mister Clean (#78)
The same reason a private business should: to catch people breaking the law.
#85. To: Dakmar (#81)
Private businesses charged with enforcing public law?
#86. To: abraxas (#84)
#87. To: Mister Clean (#85)
Who said anything about enforcing the law?
#88. To: Dakmar (#87)
Who said anything about enforcing the law?
#89. To: Ferret Mike (#33)
#24. To: Veritas (#0)
Lord Acton
#90. To: Mister Clean (#88)
(Edited)
I didn't use the word enforce. I said catch. If you don't understand the difference you're an idiot.
#91. To: Dakmar (#90)
I forgot, you're an artist, the rest of us are white trash when we beat up burglars. Will you be my lawyer for the fucking rapture, nigger?
#92. To: Mister Clean (#91)
#93. To: Dakmar (#92)
I figured that out after a night in jail for whupping on the nigger that stole my bike.
#94. To: Mister Clean (#93)
Here's the difference: a surveillance camera will CATCH a criminal
#95. To: Dakmar (#94)
Whose CAMERA, Herr Lieberman?
#96. To: Mister Clean (#95)
Again, if you know of any innocent people who have been harmed by those eeeeevil surveillance cameras, do tell.
#97. To: Dakmar, Mister Clean (#96)
Again, if you know of any innocent people who have been harmed by
those eeeeevil surveillance cameras, do tell.
#98. To: LACUMO (#97)
#99. To: Dakmar (#98)
whatever hit the Pentagon on 9/11
#100. To: LACUMO (#99)
#101. To: LACUMO (#97)
Too bad there weren't surveillence cameras working, not only on 9-11 at the the twin towers, which would have given a looksee, but on and working the last few months 24/7. Our government don't like surveillance cameras when they are looking at things that show government agents breaking the law. Remember that gas station across from the pentagon on 9-11 that had a working surveilance camera that filmed the cruise missle that hit the Pentagon. Our government confiscated the tape and I'm sure has destroyed it. The cops hate being taped breaking the law and violating peoples rights.
#102. To: FormerLurker (#31)
Perhaps, the TOP people were NOT involved, and it WAS a "rogue" operation that a certain faction initiated and carried out. Maybe some traitors WILL hang, who knows...
#103. To: RickyJ (#102)
If the media ever reveals that 911 was a false flag then the puppets will be blamed.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#104. To: Mister Clean (#70)
Nobody is forced to go into the backscatter machines at US airports.
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#105. To: FormerLurker (#103)
(Edited)
I wonder if Cheney and BunnyPants would go down without singing about everything..
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