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Title: Uh-oh...There's More to the story on Joe Stack
Source: ofgoatsandmen.blogspot.com
URL Source: http://ofgoatsandmen.blogspot.com/2 ... stack-had-911-nsa-cia-and.html
Published: Feb 24, 2010
Author: ofgoatsandmen.blogspot.com
Post Date: 2010-02-24 11:27:26 by TwentyTwelve
Keywords: Joe Stack, NSA, Homeland Security
Views: 1037
Comments: 57

Saturday, February 20, 2010

Joseph Andrew Stack Had 9/11, NSA, and Homeland Security Related Defense Contractor Clients

The client list from the software programmer believed to have crashed his plane into the Echelon* building in Austin Texas reads like a guidebook to defense contractors with connections to 9/11, NSA and Homeland Security.

The FBI had his webpage removed (the screen message previously said that the FBI had it removed) from the internet, but of course the client list from the webpage has been archived. As first discovered by Cryptogon, the client list has corporations on it such as Interstate Electronics Corporation, which needed Mr. Stack's help on developing a GPS-based Fight Management System of all things. IEC is a wholly owned subsidiary of L-3 which is a defence contractor with obvious Homeland Security and NSA connections. There is also this report from Wayne Madsen on Oped News of an L-3 consultant to the NSA who had watched a live feed of the first 9/11 plane impact as it happened. L-3 is included among corporations which were investigated by the SEC for unusual stock put-options in relation to 9/11.

Cylink Corporation, another on Mr. Stack's client list had as it's Chief Executive Officer, William P. Crowell who "came to Cylink from the National Security Agency, where he held a series of senior positions, including Deputy Director of Operations and the Deputy Director of the Agency. From 1989 to 1990, Crowell served as a vice president at Atlantic Aerospace Electronics Corporation, now a subsidiary of Titan Systems, leading business development in space technology, signal processing and intelligence systems."

Hughes Aircraft, one of Stack's clients, developed the ground mission control segment of the Global Hawk. Another Stack client, Teledyne, is the prime contractor for the Global Hawk, and L3 supplied its communications system. Other clients on the list such as DMC Stratex Networks and Sorrento Electronics also are defense contractors and probably a closer examination of these and other corporations on Stack's client list will reveal more interesting details.

*Note: the name echelon itself refers to a "signals intelligence (SIGINT) collection and analysis network" coordinated by the NSA.

Update: see also Joe Stack co-owned hanger with Homeland Security Initiative Program Manager

Posted by George at 4:22 AM

Labels: 9/11, austin, clients, defense contractors, echelon building, joseph andrew stack, l-3, nsa, plane crash

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#1. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)

Uh-oh...There's More to the story on Joe Stack

I failed to see anything of importance or significance????

Cynicom  posted on  2010-02-24   11:32:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Cynicom (#1) (Edited)

anything of importance

it's just that joe stack, who apparently worked on GPS guidance systems for airplanes, might have suspected that GPS was used to guide the airplanes into the WTC.

the irony would come into the picture if joe stack was murdered before the plane took off, stuffed into the cockpit, and then victimized by the technology he helped develop, as another phony airborne terrorist attack was staged... an attack that could be turned into a propaganda operation by his murderers.

so we got another a-few-birds-whacked-with-one-stone operation... with overtones of black comedy.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-24   11:54:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: groundresonance (#4)

We have to make sure we do not get carried away with the ..."what ifs...

Doing so detracts from Stacks real message.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-02-24   12:00:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Cynicom (#7) (Edited)

Stacks real message

what if stack was murdered to cover up his real real message, which would have been - --had he lived to tell it--- "GPS that i helped develop was used by the government to steer the airliners on 9/11."?

i'm not saying that's what happened, but i am saying that it would fit in with a certain black sense of humor that these assholes seem to possess.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-24   12:05:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: groundresonance, Cynicom (#9)

Stacks real message

what if stack was murdered to cover up his real message, which would have been, had he lived to tell it, "GPS that i helped develop was used by the government to steer the airliners on 9/11."?

i'm not saying that's what happened, but i am saying that it would fit in with a certain black sense of humor that these assholes seem to possess.

"The FBI had his webpage removed (the screen message previously said that the FBI had it removed) from the internet, but of course the client list from the webpage has been archived. As first discovered by Cryptogon, the client list has corporations on it such as Interstate Electronics Corporation, which needed Mr. Stack's help on developing a GPS-based Fight Management System of all things. IEC is a wholly owned subsidiary of L-3 which is a defence contractor with obvious Homeland Security and NSA connections."

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2010-02-24   12:09:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: TwentyTwelve (#11)

2012

The FBI, government, is digging deep to find co-conspirators of any shade or size, anyone to drag into Federal court for display for the masses.

We have to go along with Stacks manifesto.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-02-24   12:15:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Cynicom (#12)

We have to go along with Stacks manifesto.

one main question about that...

is there any reason to believe that stack wrote that manifesto, seeing as how it would be of such great importance in establishing the official account of stack's death?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-24   12:18:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: groundresonance (#14)

is there any reason to believe that stack wrote that manifesto,

We do have an established fact. Stack did fly the airplane into the building.

He left behind his reasons, even the government will accept all of that.

There is nothing to be gained by weighing, "what ifs".

Just like Von Brunn, he did the deed, died because of it, no one else was involved.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-02-24   12:22:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Cynicom (#17)

I agree with your analysis. If this had been a "psy op" we'd be hearing about it on every news channel 24/7 and a plethora of new restrictions on private pilots etc. would have been rolled out, just for starters.

Instead, it appears as if the PTBs want to hush this one up.

Sam Houston  posted on  2010-02-24   12:26:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Sam Houston (#24)

and a plethora of new restrictions on private pilots etc. would have been rolled out, just for starters.

Indeed,

There will be new restrictions.

The government is hoping against hope that they can find someone else involved as it is to their advantage in clamping down on security for the masses.

We cannot go fishing in a rain barrel as there is water but no fish.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-02-24   14:04:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Cynicom, Sam Houston, *9-11* (#43)

TX Plane Crash Exposes Gap in U.S. Air Security

wudidiz  posted on  2010-02-24   14:09:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: wudidiz (#45)

www.time.com/time/nation/...le/0,8599,1966939,00.html

"Private pilots fly approximately 200,000 small and medium-size planes in the U.S., using 19,000 airports, most of them small. The planes' owners insist the aircraft have nothing in common with airliners but the sky.

"I don't see a gaping security hole here," said Tom Walsh, an aviation security consultant. "In terms of aviation security, there are much bigger fish to fry than worrying about small aircraft." (See pictures from the Fort Hood, Texas shootings.)

He said most would-be terrorists would draw the same conclusion — that tiny aircraft don't pack a big enough punch.

Planes like Stack's weigh just a few thousands pounds and carry no more than 100 gallons of fuel, he noted. A Boeing 767 weighs 400,000 pounds and carries up to 25,000 gallons of fuel.

Walsh and other general aviation advocates argue that stringent security and bureaucracy would deter recreational fliers and slow down a vibrant, multibillion-dollar general aviation industry, causing economic damage."

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2010-02-24   14:25:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#49. To: TwentyTwelve (#48)

Walsh and other general aviation advocates argue that stringent security and bureaucracy would deter recreational fliers and slow down a vibrant, multibillion-dollar general aviation industry, causing economic damage."

Yeah, but think of all the government jobs it would create. :-)

wudidiz  posted on  2010-02-24 14:28:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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