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Title: Ok Alex, the gloves are OFF!!
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://dailypaul.com/node/126916
Published: Feb 27, 2010
Author: Jefferson
Post Date: 2010-02-27 10:39:24 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 457
Comments: 30

I have known Alex Jones for many years. I have known many that were in his inside circle. I have supported him both physically and financially in the field of battle, even to the point of being an advertiser on his Sunday show.

I have put my own reputation on the line, taking up for Alex, and trying to get people to focus on the information, and not the messenger.

After all this IS a psychological WAR that is being waged on us on a daily basis. Alex Jones' operation is the biggest gun that we have in this war. That should go without dispute.

Needless to say, I was FLOORED, as I was loading 100 Medina yard signs, and several 4 x 8's into my truck, when I heard AJ turn his guns on Debra Medina.

When I heard AJ carry on about how it is about "morals and principles", and that he has never "betrayed anyone", and was basically without fault, I SNAPPED.

When I tried to call into his show today, and make the point of the need for humility, and mercy, I was rudely cut off, and then told by the call screener that I could basically stop listening, and supporting, and a few other unsavory things.

I can no longer hold my tongue about Alex Jones. I will now try to make my point in written form, as I was not allowed to do so with him directly.

Is he a Vatican assassin, Zionist agent, or Jesuit operative? I think not.

Is he sometimes an absolute infantile egotistical megalomaniac, that can't stand to share the spotlight with anyone? I think yes.

The point is, if he is going to go on the air, and launch a raving tirade against Debra Medina, acting like he is without fault, then his feet need to be held to the same fire as well.

I understand his frustration with Medina trying to appeal to a larger audience, by distancing herself from the obvious Glenn Beck attack that she unfortunately didn't see coming.

I was one who advocated her going on the Beck show. I knew she would be attacked. I knew that her exposure would have exploded.

My mistake was in assuming that SHE wouldn't know that SHE was going to be attacked. I think she actually believed that GB was finally going to recognize her for being a "Tea Party mom candidate", and help further her/our cause.

Anyone who has known Alex over the many years, has seen him pull stunts to gain more publicity. We have tolerated that, because we knew that it was worth getting the truth out to more, and more people.

Did he compromise his principles in doing that? Not in my opinion. This, as I, Alex, and others have said, IS A WAR, and sometimes extraordinary measures need to be taken to win a war.

But recently, a few local Austin news articles came out about how the FCC, was harassing the people that were broadcasting The Alex Jones Show, and other truth oriented shows, out of their homes. These people have put themselves, and their homes at risk of being raided by the feds for trying to help get the message out. They have done this work for many years, for no money what so ever.

Alex Jones was quoted in one of these articles (KXAN), not waffling, not playing politics, not flip flopping, but OUTRIGHT, bald-faced LYING about "not knowing that his show was being rebroadcast" , and "not knowing anything" about the micro radio stations here in Austin.

This shocked me, and hurt me, as I knew it was a lie, and didn't understand why he would distance himself from the great patriots, taking the risk of their own lives and fortunes, to help get his message out.

Once again, I bit my tongue, and told myself that he must have had to cover his own rear end for some reason, and swallowed hard to accept this compromise, as it once again, must have been for the greater good. I felt horribly for the ones who must have felt left out to dry, by Alex's shunning of them, through a blatant cowardly lie.

He could have easily said that " I don't have any control of people wanting to broadcast my show, and other truth oriented shows. In fact, good on them for trying to wake the rest of the population up, and taking the risks they have".

Instead, he took the cowards way out, played dumb, and acted like he didn't know them, or about them.

So, I ask you, and him. What is the difference between Alex Jones and Debra Medina?

Both, I believe are trying to make a difference in saving this republic. Both are human, and make mistakes, and are far from perfect.

But when Alex Jones goes on his show, and sicks his supporters on Debra Medina's campaign, for doing something he is guilty of doing himself, then I must take him to task.

I would also ask you to ALSO take him to task as well, as no one that is viewed as a "leader" in this revolution, be it Ron Paul, Debra Medina, Alex Jones, Glenn Beck, etc. etc., is immune from scrutiny. This is not a cult.

I would ask YOU to ask Alex, what is the difference between what he did, and what Debra Medina did?

Maybe you should call into his show, and mention the article where he lied, and acted like a coward, and shunned the people who have selflessly supported him for years.

My interest is not trying to start a fight here. But if Alex is going to hold Medina to certain standards, then HE needs to be held to the same standards.

I will continue to go out today and finish putting up my signs, and will put in my vote for Debra Medina, as she is the best shot we have to put a stop to this insanity, peacefully.

I will try and gather myself up, and try and forgive Alex for hypocritically attacking Debra Medina, but it will not be easy, taking into consideration all the work and sacrifice I have put, not only supporting him, but supporting Medina. HERE IS THE ARTICLE, where AJ is quoted lying about not knowing about his show being broadcast. He threw a great man under the bus, by acting like he didn't know him, and now he is facing a 10k fine from the FCC. Thanks to "elfis", for finding this article for me. http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/local/Former-Sheriff-charged-as...

I have no skin in this game other than the tremendous financial, and physical support I have given to both of these individuals. We lost a family friend in the 9/11 demolition, and I would love to get justice for him, as much as anyone else.

If Alex can say "Well if Medina can flip flop on the 9/11 truther issue, then what else will she flip flop on"? Then I guess the question can be asked, if Alex can lie, and distance himself from great, selfless people, taking risk to spread his information, then what else will he lie about?

I am just terribly upset, at the recent turn of events, and needed to vent. I have literally been sick to my stomach because of this. Hopefully, going out and finishing my campaign for Debra Medina, will help.

All I know is that when I lay my head on my pillow tonight, I know that I have done everything that I could do, to the best of my ability, and did it with integrity.

Thanks for reading.

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#2. To: christine, Jones worshipers current and past, all (#0) (Edited)

This whole article is hilarious.

He is upset that his favorite political candidate / whore got raked over the coals. Poor poor Medina.

He admits to tolerating Jones' bullshit because he thought it helped The Cause. But now that it is against His Cause, he is crying a river of tears. Here, have a Kleenex (TM).

Surely this crybaby knows about the lies and disinformation that Jones spews, but was evidently all too eager to ignore that, even though people have exposed it long ago. And yet the idiot says, and I quote, " This, as I, Alex, and others have said, IS A WAR, and sometimes extraordinary measures need to be taken to win a war. "

Since when do "extraordinary measures" include blatant lying? If you are trying to convince someone of what is happening, then you damn well better tell them the TRUTH! Not just sometimes, but all of the time!

But Jones lied about his pet candidate/whore, and that is just unforgivable.

So now he decides to fall on his sword. Fuck him and the horse he rode in on. He is as much to blame as anyone, because he and many others PURPOSELY ignored Jones' bullshit in the past. And they didn't just ignore it, these rats called the people that exposed it traitors and government shills. Now that he got hurt personally then he decided it was too painful to ignore?

PSUSA  posted on  2010-02-27   10:58:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: PSUSA, christine (#2)

This whole article is hilarious.

He is upset that his favorite political candidate / whore got raked over the coals. Poor poor Medina.

He admits to tolerating Jones' bullshit because he thought it helped The Cause. But now that it is against His Cause, he is crying a river of tears. Here, have a Kleenex (TM).

how many people have dredged up their grudges regarding jones over their pet candidate medina, over the past week? i tried to read this guys article but couldnt get through it. irrelevant grudge nonsense. and as you said, why do they think some politician is gonna save them anyway?

this whole thing is freakin hilarious to watch though. and i truly mean that. medina does not deserve support, in my opinion. but to each their own.

Artisan  posted on  2010-02-27   11:55:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Artisan (#9)

and as you said, why do they think some politician is gonna save them anyway?

I wish I knew. As surely as God made little green apples, I can't understand it.

I wish I knew how the same people that say that politics is a sham can then put any kind of investment in just another political whore that tells when what they know the audience wants to hear and will then promptly forget their promises when they are (s)elected.

PSUSA  posted on  2010-02-27   12:19:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: PSUSA (#13) (Edited)

i don't remember. did you have the same opinion of Ron Paul? is/was he just another political whore, iyo?

i'm not trying to put you on the defense. i honestly want to know.

christine  posted on  2010-02-27   17:29:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: christine (#14)

did you have the same opinion of Ron Paul? is/was he just another political whore, iyo?

Here he distances himself from the 9/11 crowd.

Here, he states that the 9/11 commission report was incomplete.

That sounds like a whores doubletalk to me. You cant have it both ways. He tailors everything to his audience at the time just like any other political whore. If you're not strong enough to stand on you own, consistently, then stay home.

It's evident that people that just want to know what happened care more for Paul than Paul cares for them. Just because I agree with him on some topics doesn't mean I trust him.

PSUSA  posted on  2010-02-27   18:55:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: PSUSA (#18)

That sounds like a whores doubletalk to me. You cant have it both ways.

agreed. if you search my posts at the time you will see that i was very critical of Paul on that and his failure to address obvious vote fraud which he HAS to know exists. however, my question to you is this. when he first ran, were you hopeful or trusting even a little bit?

christine  posted on  2010-02-28   10:57:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: christine (#23) (Edited)

agreed. if you search my posts at the time you will see that i was very critical of Paul on that and his failure to address obvious vote fraud which he HAS to know exists.

I remember that.

my question to you is this. when he first ran, were you hopeful or trusting even a little bit?

Not even a little bit.

If you look, you can find some of his clips on the Morton Downey show. Remember that program? He was not afraid to go against the grain when it came to legalizing drugs, which I happen to agree with.

Here's a funny one:

Now why the change? He was a fighter back then, evidently.

I find it wise to be wary of people that tailor their words to the audience in front of them. Different audience = different words. Huge audience = general babble, silly promises and slogans, nothing of substance.

PSUSA  posted on  2010-02-28   11:10:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: PSUSA (#25)

K, this is the archive of Jack Blood's show the other day. i'd like you to listen to it, if you haven't already, not for what he says about Alex Jones, but for what he says about Medina's campaign and what it could mean for Texas.

http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/archive/Jack-Blood-32k- 022410.mp3

christine  posted on  2010-02-28   12:41:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: christine (#27)

OK, it's playing now.

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