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Title: FBI Operative Hal Turner Says Government Urged Him to Make Violent Statements
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URL Source: http://www.infowars.com/fbi-operati ... im-to-make-violent-statements/
Published: Mar 4, 2010
Author: Kurt Nimmo
Post Date: 2010-03-04 11:38:37 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 298
Comments: 29

Hal Turner took the stand today in his federal trial and accused the FBI of instructing him to make violent and racist statements. The North Bergen, New Jersey, radio talk show host is on trial for allegedly threatening three Chicago-based federal appeals court judges. In June of 2009, Turner said the judges “deserved to be killed” for a ruling they made in a gun control case.

In more than two hours of testimony, Turner described how he was recruited in 2003 by the FBI’s Newark-based Joint Terrorism Task Force. He said he was paid “in excess of $100,000” by the FBI during his almost five years as an informant, according to The Record.

Turner’s first trial ended in deadlock back in December. A mistrial was declared after the jury deadlocked 9 to 3 in favor of acquitting Turner who was originally indicted in Illinois.

During the first trial, Assistant Special Agent in Charge Amy Pickett, the third highest ranking FBI Official in New York City, admitted that Turner was involved in “National Security Intelligence.”

On February 16, The Record reported federal prosecutors sought to bar Turner from revealing his longtime role as a FBI informant to a jury during the current trial. “Prosecutors want U.S. District Judge Donald Walter to preclude Turner’s lawyers from referring to his background as a confidential source for the FBI,” the newspaper reported.

According to research conducted by Alexandra Natapoff of Loyola Law School in Los Angeles, the FBI maintains an army of at least 15,000 “confidential informants,” while the DEA admits to having 4,000 snitches. “But the number of informants working directly for the Feds is probably only a tiny fraction of the entire stukachi [a Russian epithet used to describe a secret police informant] population, given the uncounted masses of snitches working for state and local police agencies,” writes William Norman Grigg of the Pro Libertate blog.

On March 2, two federal judges testified in U.S. District Court in Brooklyn that they feared for their lives after Turner posted the comments on his blog. “I read it as a threat to kill me,” testified U.S. Appeals Court Judge William Bauer.

However, neither judge asked the U.S. Marshal Service for special protection.

“The government’s case began to fall apart almost immediately when government witnesses confirmed Turner was a national security intelligence operative for the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force from 2003 through 2008,” the Family of Hal Turner blog noted on February 24. “Turner’s attorneys pointed out that the FBI itself ‘counseled’ Turner on the lawful use of violent rhetoric so he could flush out radicals before they committed acts of terrorism.”

The Family of Hal Turner blog, however, does not provide evidence of “radicals” bent on committing acts of terrorism in order to make its case. The FBI has a long track record of creating fake terror groups and urging easily conned patsies to plot harebrained terror attacks.

According to the MIAC report and the Department of Homeland Security’s “rightwing extremism” report, the government considers Ron Paul supporters, Libertarians, Constitutionalists, returning veterans, and Second Amendment advocates a threat. Both reports conflate the miniscule white supremacist movement with the larger and vastly more popular patriot movement.

In addition, the government considers the anti-war movement a threat. Responding to ACLU FOIA requests filed in 20 states on behalf of more than 150 organizations and individuals in 2006, the government released documents revealing monitoring and infiltration by the FBI and local law enforcement, targeting political, environmental, anti-war and faith-based groups.

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#1. To: christine (#0)

I still can't figure out why they charged him with this. He was working for them after all.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-04   11:45:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: christine (#0)

Trust No One.

But I still trust you Christine...;-)


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-03-04   11:54:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: PSUSA (#1)

I've never seen any agency, local or federal, arrest an asset. As I understand this, Pat Fitzgerald is the prosecutor, and he's high profile if nothing else. If the best he can do is get three out of twelve to buy his case, there is lots here we don't know.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-03-04   11:55:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Rotara (#2)

;)

christine  posted on  2010-03-04   11:58:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: PSUSA (#1)

it makes no sense to me either.

christine  posted on  2010-03-04   11:59:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: christine (#0)

I hope they convict his ass and throw away the key.

Get in bed with the devil, you gotta expect to get screwed, no?


The only real restraint on gummints is people who say "live free or die" ... and mean it. - Enderby

Critter  posted on  2010-03-04   12:22:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Critter (#6)

yes ;)

christine  posted on  2010-03-04   12:24:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Jethro Tull (#3)

I've never seen any agency, local or federal, arrest an asset. As I understand this, Pat Fitzgerald is the prosecutor, and he's high profile if nothing else. If the best he can do is get three out of twelve to buy his case, there is lots here we don't know.

And I wonder what will come out at the trial to answer what we don't know.

After all, they did try and limit his defense by trying to keep his fed work secret. I don't know how the hell they thought they could get away with that since it already made the news. Unless they are depending on the juries ignorance.

This whole thing baffles me.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-04   12:28:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: christine (#5) (Edited)

it makes no sense to me

i dont think you can understand anything if you think of the government as a monolith.

for instance, if the media's promotion of obama, and his resultant popularity, made it clear that the time was not yet ripe to stir up racial wars that could be used as a pretext to declare martial law, then they'd try to rein in their tame racists, and maybe even make an example of them by busting them.

looks like the looting opportunities will continue for a while yet, so the last thing the big boys need is race wars that might disrupt the loot collection apparatus... so maybe a "let's wait a while" faction prevailed in turner's case.

it seems likely, though, that racist agents provocateurs will be used when it comes time to find a pretext to impose martial law, but that racism will be channeled, if possible, into white vs black, white vs hispanic, black vs hispanic.

maybe turner's antisemitism was getting too much traction... you'd think his handlers could have asked him to tone his antisemitic rhetoric down, but maybe they need a show trial, and maybe, given turner's connections to, for instance, sean hannity and the fbi, it's gonna turn into a normal, FUBAR govt operation.

but we are, after all, an empire now, and when we act we create our own reality... so it's really not much of a problem.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-04   12:28:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: christine (#0)

...allegedly threatening three Chicago-based federal appeals court judges. In June of 2009, Turner said the judges “deserved to be killed” for a ruling they made in a gun control case.

Sounds pretty far fetched. To say "they deserve to be killed" is not a threat against them. A threat would be more along the lines of "I will kill those miserable sob's myself if I ever get an opportunity." That is a threat, not "they deserve to be killed."

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-03-04   12:30:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Jethro Tull (#3)

I've never seen any agency, local or federal, arrest an asset...

...but sometimes we bomb the dogshit out of them, especially if they're already dead.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-04   12:36:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: christine (#0) (Edited)

there seems to be a conflict between the "pure intelligence" faction, who will let assholes go on their merry way so long as those assholes are providing intelligence, and the "enforcement" faction, who supposedly enforce the law.

the use of intelligence is supposed to enable the enforcers to bust the assholes, but it seems that lots of "pure intelligence" people are using their role in "pure intelligence" as a cover for, for instance, false flag operations, insider trading, illegal arms sales, and the illegal drug business.

and there's always been crooked cops...

the unifying factor, here, seems to be greed, and the overall direction comes from people who understand how to use greed to corrupt the system in order to achieve their objectives... supposing they have objectives other than personal wealth...

...examples of "other objectives" being "benevolent global hegemony", tikkun olam, or security for israel.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-04   12:59:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: PSUSA (#1)

I still can't figure out why they charged him with this.

Red herring? He said he had documents that showed that some of the US taxpayer money going to "Israel" was funnelled back into the pockets of Congressmen friendly to "Israel". Maybe it was true and they needed to shut him up for that.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-03-04   16:29:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#13)

That's the best theory I've seen floated.

That's why Trafficante was set up.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-03-04   16:53:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#13)

He can still talk.

I think that if that was the case, they'd "accident" him.

You could be right though, because I sure don't know. This might be one of those "wait and see" situations.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-04   17:00:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: PSUSA, Original_Intent (#15) (Edited)

I think that if that was the case, they'd "accident" him.

My computer had an "accident" shortly after I posted that...'course it's been trying to crash on me for several days now, but made me suspicious nonetheless.

FOR THE RECORD [blast from the past]:

You Want Proof of the Zionist Control of Congress — Here it is!

December 31, 2008 ISRAELI LEAKS MONEY-LAUNDERING INFO ON U.S. CONGRESS! REVEALS HOW ISRAEL MIS-USES FOREIGN AID FROM USA TO "BRIBE" CONGRESS WITH CAMPAIGN FUNDS New York, NY -- As I write this report, it is 3:12 in the morning. I was awoken by repeated phone calls, which, to my complete shock, were coming from from Jerusalem, Israel.

On the phone was an Israeli who claimed to be completely knowledgeable about something that I have reported on my web site for several years and he was about to change my life by providing me proof.

For years, my former radio show and my web site have been the ONLY media outlets ever to report the vast money-laundering and bribery scheme perpetrated by the Israeli government with members of the United States Congress as co-conspirators.

The scheme works like this: The U.S. Congress votes to send between $3 Billion and $6 Billion free cash to Israel every year under the guise of "foreign aid." When the money arrives, the Israeli government takes several hundred million and puts it aside to be sent back to the USA through Jewish Political Action Committees, and donated to the political campaigns of the Congress members most friendly to Israel. By funding Israel, certain members of Congress actually guarantee they'll have enough campaign cash to get re-elected.

No one investigated it because there was never any way to PROVE what was being done. This morning that changed.

The Israeli who called me is personally disgusted with his governments ongoing attacks against unarmed civilians in the West Bank and Gaza strip. He says the bombing of civilians has been far worse than reported in the media, with at least 2,000 dead and 10,000 injured.

He had hoped the Israeli government would call a truce, but minutes before he called me, the Israeli Cabinet REFUSED to order a truce.

He told me "When I heard they refused the cease fire, I knew my government was nothing more than a group of murderous butchers. I can't live with myself if I stand-by and do nothing."

So he called me and has blown the lid off the money laundering and bribery that I have reported on for years.

The Israeli sent me electronic files showing bank account numbers and routing numbers for Israeli government accounts, bank routing numbers and account numbers for NAMED members of the United States House of Representatives, the United States Senate and even elected officials in various states! The spreadsheet files are not completely in the English language but what they show is clear.

The data shows who got how much and when. The most important thing: Many of these money transfers from the Israeli government to Congress were wired DIRECTLY from Israeli government accounts into active U.S. campaign accounts - illegal foreign donations!!! Even more astonishing is that in many cases, Israeli government funds were wired directly into active PERSONAL ACCOUNTS of members of Congress and members of state governments!!!!!!!

Did you get that? Personal accounts! Bribe money wired from a foreign government into personal accounts of members of Congress!!!!!!!

Each such wire transfer is a federal FELONY and there are DOZENS of these transfers into the personal accounts of more than one hundred members of Congress and dozens of members of the Senate!

I have huge amounts of data detailing who got what, when, from which Israeli gov't account, into which political or PERSONAL account at what bank located in what country!!!!

Folks, this is huge. The level of bribery is unfathomable; we're talking hundreds of millions of dollars over the last 6 - 9 years. The level of detail contained in these reports is so incredibly thorough it would make the IRS envious!

In addition, the files show which Political Action Committees got how much and contains the INSTRUCTIONS sent to those Political action committees directly from the Israeli government about who they should donate to!

This is going to totally scuttle the Israeli government and the U.S. Federal Government. It's over. When I release this, so many elected officials in this country are going to be arrested and jailed that the government will collapse. It's over for them. It is FINALLY over for them.

Before I release any of it, I have to perform "due diligence" to verify it or obtain corroboration from other sources. If I fail to perform due diligence or obtain corroboration, and go off half-cocked making accusations of this criminal nature, I would open myself up to a series of Libel lawsuits that would utterly destroy me, cost me my home, my son's college money and everything else. I MUST be careful with this so please be patient.

Before I wrote this article, I forwarded copies of the 400 MB of electronic data to six people whom I trust in case I get murdered. This is the type of thing that gets people killed but since I am trying to save my country. . . . . . . well. . . . . . . saving America is worth dying for.

I am now making print outs and will make copies and send those copies to trusted friends with instructions to release them if anything happens to me.

In that regard I want all of you to know right now that I am healthy. I do not use illegal drugs and am not on any medications of any type. I will never commit suicide, suffer from any overdose of illegal drugs, suffer any allergic reaction to any medication. I won't engage the police in a shoot out or a high speed chase. I drive safely. I'm a regular, healthy, happy, normal married 46 year old man. If I die, you know they got to me.

I intend to publish this information, including names, dates and account numbers, here on the web.

It will take some time to prepare the info for publication since spreadsheets are not the simplest way to deliver news.

I think I will present it grouped as follows: First, by member of congress; next by members of certain committees, then by dates the money was wired versus legislation that was voted upon. It will take time to cross reference all of this and format it so it is clear concise and connects the dots in an unambiguous way.

I must admit the thought of using this information as . . . . . leverage . . . . . against these powerful members of Congress has crossed my mind. But rather than enrich myself - or get jailed for extortion -- I think I'll do the right thing and release it all publicly.

In the meantime, The Israeli Knesset would do well to immediately reconsider their refusal to call a truce. I think bombing unarmed civilians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip has gone on quite long enough. I think it should stop. Now.

As for members of Congress and the Senate, you may want to start researching which countries you can flee to that do not have extradition treaties with the United States. Your time is just about up.

More info as I can make it available.

3:45 AM EDT, Dec.31, 2008

UPDATE 10:05 AM EDT, 31 DECEMBER, 2008 -- As the electronic files are being translated into English, more names have been popping up; names of present and former key members of the U.S. Media! Yes, you read that correctly.

Apparently, in addition to paying off members of the US Congress, the state of Israel has been bribing media big shots - from Editors and Assignment editors at VERY LARGE newspapers in New York, Chicago and Los Angeles, to Producers and even Anchors at certain large TV News Networks.

When the translations to English came across unfamiliar names, we Googled those names and are that how we started coming up with these media big shots.

The leaking of these files is shining a light on a level of corruption both in government and media that one would not have imagined possible. More details later. . . . . . .

10:23 AM EDT 30 Dec 2008

****** UPDATE ****** URGENT ****** 11:10 AM EDT A series of peculiar entries has been translated showing transactions between bank accounts held by something called Loh'ama Psichologit to the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) in New York City.

A google search for Loh'ama Psichologit has found it is the Literature and Propaganda arm of the Israeli Intelligence Agency, "Mossad"

Why would there be bank transactions from a propaganda arm of the Israeli Mossad to the Anti Defamation League?

Is the ADL an instrument of foreign propaganda, funded by a foreign government? Are they even registered as a foreign agent with the US Government?

UPDATE 11:40 AM EDT The routing numbers for some of the RECEIVING Banks involved show that members of the US Congress and US Senate have bank accounts in places like: Barbados, Lichtenstein, Switzerland, The Turks and Caicos Islands, the Cayman Islands and "the City of London".

Why would members of the US Congress be receiving foreign money from Israel into offshore bank accounts?

This is quickly becoming an enormous and tangled web. The more we uncover as the files are translated, the worse it gets!

I'm kind of hoping that someone sues me over this so I can avail myself of the Discovery Process and delve deeply with Subpoena power.

UH OH 12:10 PM

Maybe it's a character flaw in my nature, but I'm really starting to think that since money makes the world go round, why shouldn't I just stop, shut up and offer to get on-board this gravy train? What the hell am I going to gain by being the guy with the White hat riding in on a white horse to clean things up?

I'm asking myself, at what point do I mature into being a practical man rather than an ideologue?

Seeing all this cash changing hands is a corrupting thing. I'm starting to think that if I was more practical and made sure I wasn't greedy, maybe I could score a home run.

These people are throwing around hundreds of millions of dollars like it's chump change. If I got a half million a year or maybe a single, lump sum of a few million, they might think they got off cheap and I could be really happy. Forever.

Hmmmmm. This is bad. I'm starting to have a crisis of conscience and of personal honor. Shit. This is the last thing I need right now.

UPDATE 1:36 PM EDT As more and more of the electronic files are read and translated, bank accounts in the names of VERY prestigious law firms and innocuous "front companies" throughout the country are surfacing. The records show wire transfers to these law firms and "front companies" are denoted with the names of members of Congress and the Senate. Apparently, great effort was used to conceal who was getting thee payoffs from the Israeli government, but nonetheless, the spreadsheets are showing who got how much.

It now appears clear this is going to take a very long time to sort out.

Friends of mine have written warning me to be extremely careful and to copyright the material so that I can publish it as a book. Interesting idea.

That would allow me to earn a profit from releasing the information without selling my soul to those perpetrating these crimes who would want to buy me off to shut me up.

More details as they become available. . . . . 1:41 PM EDT

Posted by http://HalTurnerShow.com at 12/31/2008 03:06:00 AM

halturnershow.blogspot.co...y-laundering-info-on.html

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edit:

This is the type of thing that gets people killed but since I am trying to save my country. . . . . . . well. . . . . . . saving America is worth dying for.

I am now making print outs and will make copies and send those copies to trusted friends with instructions to release them if anything happens to me.

In that regard I want all of you to know right now that I am healthy. I do not use illegal drugs and am not on any medications of any type. I will never commit suicide, suffer from any overdose of illegal drugs, suffer any allergic reaction to any medication. I won't engage the police in a shoot out or a high speed chase. I drive safely. I'm a regular, healthy, happy, normal married 46 year old man. If I die, you know they got to me.

I intend to publish this information, including names, dates and account numbers, here on the web.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-03-04   17:56:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#16)

Most interesting. If true this would seem to provide motive for his prosecution persecution by his erstwhile employers.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-03-04   18:18:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#16)

I'm suspicious.

Hal Turner was a traitor working with the feds with the explicitly stated purpose of riling up people to the point where they could lose their freedom.

Because of that, he is not worthy of trust in any matter. I mean, no trust at all. Because of that, everything he says I assume to be lies he spread in order to carry out his treason for the feds, for which he got paid tens of thousands of FRNs.

I wouldn't piss on turner if he was on fire.

If he did have this insurance policy, there is nothing out there to keep him from threatening to cash it in, is there? Or even giving an blatant ultimatum: "let me go right now or the shit hits the fan".


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-04   18:38:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Original_Intent (#17)

I think he named everyone but the Vatican, but I'm sure that would have come with time. Most interesting to see the media, THE CITY OF LONDON, and MOSSAD/ADL tied in with this, particularly at this point in time, what with the Dubuai assassination having taken place with US-UK-Mossad/Israel involvement, and what with Americans giving Congress [in a Faux poll] a 14% approval rating, and fighting mad over 'hell'thcare. Something like this might bring Babylon down.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-03-04   19:30:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: PSUSA (#18) (Edited)

Well, you know, I didn't know that much about Turner until I was sent this article on the Congress/Israel thing. From the little bit I knew about him, I felt he might have gotten an unfair shake from a lot of people. It seems to me he might have been a patriot who THOUGHT he was protecting his country by ferretting out "terrorists". I wonder what his religious affiliation was at the time. Baptist, maybe, or some other dispensationalist group, perhaps?

If he did have this insurance policy, there is nothing out there to keep him from threatening to cash it in, is there? Or even giving an blatant ultimatum: "let me go right now or the shit hits the fan".

Could have threatened to kill his family.

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edit.

family-of-hal-turner.blogspot.com/

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-03-04   19:35:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#19)

December 13,2009

"...We, Hal's family can tell you, there is a lot that will come out. It wasn't just Brazil where Hal had overseas dealings. In fact, Hal had dealings with officials from Great Britian, the British National Party and even members of the European Parliament -- all as part of his role with the FBI.

In addition, Hal performed work for an agent - who will be publicly named - from the Central Intelligence Agency; and was tasked by CIA to do something that would ultimately affect the outcome of the Israeli invasion of Lebanon 19 months later!..."

===========

Monday, December 7, 2009
Turner Trial Surprise: Hung Jury

Brooklyn, NY -- Radio shock-jock Hal Turner delivered a stinging upset to the federal government today when Jurors in his criminal trial told the judge they were "hopelessly deadlocked."

Expecting the jury vote to be lopsided in favor of the government, prosecutors and the judge in the case were utterly stunned when it was revealed that Jurors had voted 9 NOT GUILTY to 3 guilty!

Making this even more stunning is that Turner did not offer any defense -- his lawyers called no witnesses and presented no evidence, but instead tore into the governments own evidence and own witnesses almost totally discrediting the government's case........"

.....PROSECUTOR WHINES ABOUT THIS FAMILY BLOG

In another interesting development, Assistant U.S. Attorney William Hogan asked the court to gag Defense Attorneys from speaking to the media and also asked the court to order this "Family of Hal Turner" blog shut down!

The judge instructed Defense attorneys to stop talking to the media but declined to order this blog shut down.

"The U.S. Attorney is clearly ashamed of his ongoing vicious assault upon freedom of speech and wants to operate in secret" said one person attending today's trial. "That's how government goons like to operate - in secret" she continued.

We are able to tell you that the most prestigious program in broadcast TV news, "60 Minutes" had a camera crew at the Brooklyn federal courthouse today while two executive producers from that show sat in the courtroom during Turner's trial earlier this week. The fact that the most-viewed news program in the world is interested in the shenanigans taking place in this case is a good sign.

We wonder what Assistant US Attorneys William Hogan and William Ridgway will do when they arrive at work one day to a "60 Minutes" news crew asking them why they are prosecuting an American citizen for uttering an opinion.

It ought to be fun to watch them try to squirm their way out of that on national TV!

JUDGE HAS SOME EXPLAINING TO DO TOO

What makes the Turner case so astounding is that federal district Judge Donald Walter who is presiding over the case, turned his back on more than 40 years of Supreme Court case law and allowed the case against Turner to proceed.

It is long settled in the USA that advocating violence is lawful as long as it is done in a context which does not lend itself to imminent lawlessness. That precedent was established in the case "Brandenberg v. Ohio" back in 1969 and has been rock-solid free speech case law ever since.

We suspect that "60 Minutes" might ask Judge Walter if he chose to ignore "Brandenberg" because his knickers are in a twist over the nasty remarks Turner made about his fellow judges.

Birds of a feather. . . . .

Hal Turner's trial has been re-scheduled for March 1....."

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Charges Hit El Rukn Prosecutor // Hogan Is Accused of Misconduct

Chicago Sun-Times | January 11, 1996 | LOU ORTIZ | Copyright (c) 2009 Chicago Sun-Times, Inc.

This material is published under license from the publisher through ProQuest Information and Learning Company, Ann Arbor, Michigan. All inquiries regarding rights should be directed to ProQuest Information and Learning Company. For the first time, a prosecutor in the U.S. attorney's office has been charged with misconduct by the state agency charged with disciplining attorneys.

Ethics charges of fraud and suppression of evidence have been brought against Assistant U.S. Attorney William R. Hogan Jr. by a state panel for his alleged role in the botched prosecutions of El Rukn street gang members.

The ethics accusations against Hogan - the lead prosecutor of the El Rukns from 1988 to 1993 - allege that he withheld evidence from defense lawyers, made inaccurate statements to jurors and later gave…

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AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-03-04   20:07:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#20)

Well, you know, I didn't know that much about Turner until I was sent this article on the Congress/Israel thing.

Even those on Stormfront knew he was a traitor. I had a good idea too. Especially after his email account was hacked but even before that I didn't like him. He lied way too much. He wasn't smart enough to know that you must tell the truth most of the time if you want to make your big lies believable.

I'd dearly love to know why they prosecuted him for following their orders.

I also have the same bad feeling about alex jones and jack mclamb. Time will tell if I'm right or not.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-04   20:36:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: PSUSA (#22)

Jack McLamb is a personal friend of ours as is Randy Weaver and you know their history. Jack's been here in my home as has Randy a number of times. There's no way I believe Jack McLamb is one of them.

christine  posted on  2010-03-04   20:56:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: PSUSA (#22) (Edited)

The current situation is a win/win for the people. If he's telling the truth, then the FBI, by trying him, are burning bridges with other potential moles.

If he is not telling the truth, then he proves he is willing to sellout, at the drop of a hat, those (the people) he claimed to side with for years.

Either way, he is traitorous scum whom is getting his just dues.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-03-04   21:06:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#19)

Something like this might bring Babylon down.

One can hope.

One can pray.

And a little push here and there wouldn't hurt either. ;-)

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-03-04   21:44:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: PSUSA (#22)

I'd dearly love to know why they prosecuted him for following their orders.

speaking of stormfront, I found this at their site:

"Flush out the ADL/AIPAC “moles” within the FBI and US Dept of Justice (USDOJ). According to the FBI, the ADL has a long criminal history of accessing police files. The FBI knew it had information leaks which had impaired many investigations of Israeli, Jewish, and other suspects. The FBI wanted to plug up those leaks.

Hal was tasked to viciously, internationally, and savagely assail jews. He was told to hurl invective bigotry, anti-semitism and outright hate at Israeli jews, jewish groups, judges, legislators, and businesses. These were not his views, but the image he was ordered to project.

The FBI knew (and still know) that as soon as these groups identify a new “threat”, they first research everything they can get their hands on about that ‘threat’, regardless of the legality of the search. This includes grabbing FBI files. They look for ‘dirt’. The FBI had installed a special symbol in Hal’s file. Whenever his FBI file was accessed by ANYONE, ANYWHERE, a report of the inquiry was generated directly to the JTTF. This way the FBI could find out who, in what office/agency, was looking at Hal’s file immediately after he launched his anti-semetic, anti-Israel verbal onslaught.

In less than one month, this operation uncovered more than 240 ‘moles’ in the FBI, CIA, USDOJ, NSA, House of Representatives, the US Senate, the White House, various State Police, and even overseas governments! "

family-of-hal-turner.blogspot.com/

Comments? All made up? true?

www.stormfront.org/forum/...read.php?t=606441&page=25

His family says the "anti-Semitic" views weren't his. Maybe with all that information, his view changed, and he became the proverbial "threat" to the "moles".

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-03-04   22:10:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Original_Intent (#25)

And a little push here and there wouldn't hurt either. ;-)

well, we'll keep trying, won't we :-)

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-03-04   22:12:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#27)

I'm too stubborn to quit now. :-)

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-03-04   22:17:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: christine (#23)

This isn't personal. I have reasons for saying it. I posted them before.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-05   7:51:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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