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Title: AZ may criminalize presence of illegal immigrants
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URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100302 ... ocal_immigration_enforcement_2
Published: Mar 4, 2010
Author: JACQUES BILLEAUD,
Post Date: 2010-03-04 18:22:24 by Horse
Keywords: None
Views: 207
Comments: 12

PHOENIX – Over the past several years, immigration hard-liners at the Arizona Legislature persuaded their colleagues to criminalize the presence of illegal border-crossers in the state and ban soft immigration policies in police agencies — only to be thwarted by vetoes from a Democratic governor. This year, their prospects have improved. A proposal to draw local police deeper into the fight against illegal immigration has momentum, and even opponents expect the new Republican governor to sign off on the changes.

The proposal would make Arizona the only state to criminalize the presence of illegal immigrants through an expansion of its trespassing law. It also would require police to try to determine people's immigration status when there's reasonable suspicion they are in the country illegally.

An estimated 460,000 illegal immigrants live in the state.

"The greatest threat to our neighborhoods is the illegal alien invasion," said Republican Sen. Russell Pearce of Mesa, sponsor of the proposal, explaining that some illegal immigrants who are criminals bring violence and other crimes to the United States.

Supporters say the new rules are needed because the federal government has done a lousy job of trying seal the border and crack down on immigrants in the country's interior. Opponents say such new duties would be costly and lead to racial profiling.

The proposal passed the Senate two weeks ago, and a similar bill could come to a vote of the full House as early as this week.

Paul Senseman, spokesman for Republican Gov. Jan Brewer, said the governor doesn't comment on pending legislation but generally supports pragmatic immigration laws. Her predecessor, Janet Napolitano, a Democrat, vetoed similar proposals.

Many of the state's local police bosses have long resisted suggestions that their officers conduct day-to-day immigration enforcement, saying it would distract them from investigating other crimes and sow distrust among immigrants, who might not help officers investigating crimes because they fear being sent home.

"We are not anti-immigration enforcement," said Kingman Police Chief Robert DeVries, who opposes the bill. "We are just concerned about some of the responsibilities that are being pushed on us and how it affects our ability to provide day-to-day services in our communities."

Immigrant rights advocates are especially concerned about the trespassing expansion, saying it would inevitably lead to hassles for U.S. citizens and legal immigrants who would be approached by police because of their skin color.

"Bills like this that cast a net so wide are guaranteed to trap U.S. citizens," said Jennifer Allen, director of the Border Action Network, an immigrant rights group based in southern Arizona.

Pearce said he doesn't see the trespassing expansion being used on a wide scale and said officers wouldn't be required to arrest all illegal immigrants under such a law. Pearce said officers could turn illegal immigrants over to federal authorities, as police now routinely do, or they could use the trespassing expansion to hold onto illegal immigrants who are suspects in crimes.

First-offense trespassing by an illegal immigrant would be a top-tier misdemeanor punishable by up to six months in jail. Subsequent violations would be mid-tier felonies that would carry a penalty of one-and-a-half to three years in prison.

One element of the proposal would ban what anti-immigration groups call sanctuary polices — local rules that discourage or restrict officers from questioning immigrants.

Supporters of the bill say the policies — enacted by cities — create areas of "sanctuary" for illegal immigrants. The bill would let any person file a lawsuit to challenge the polices. If a judge finds a city restricted enforcement, the city could face civil penalties of $1,000 to $5,000 for each day the policy remains in effect after the lawsuit is filed.

Democratic Rep. Kyrsten Sinema of Phoenix, an opponent of the measure, disputes that cities and counties have any written or de facto policies that make them sanctuaries. "It's just not true," Sinema said.

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#1. To: Horse (#0)

Many of the state's local police bosses have long resisted suggestions that their officers conduct day-to-day immigration enforcement, saying it would distract them from investigating other crimes and sow distrust among immigrants, who might not help officers investigating crimes because they fear being sent home.

So let me get this straight: They don't want to verify immigration status at a traffic stop, because it will distract them. They would rather let the illegal go and mop up after the illegal rapes or kill someone.

Wouldn't that prevent crime, rather than follow up after the crime occurs?

echo5sierra  posted on  2010-03-04   19:10:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Horse (#0)

It also would require police to try to determine people's immigration status when there's reasonable suspicion they are in the country illegally.

Oh you can see the federal law suits coming down the pike. Discrimination, profiling etc etc.


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-03-04   21:28:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Horse (#0)

Why should we pay to keep illegals in jail? Send them back where they came from and fix the problem instead of trying to fix the symptoms.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2010-03-07   15:17:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#3)

Why should we pay to keep illegals in jail? Send them back where they came from and fix the problem instead of trying to fix the symptoms.

I have a better idea. Tally up all their expenses. Figure out how much land that would buy at market value along the border. Then foreclose on the land (mexican side of the border) and make Texas bigger.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-03-07   15:19:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone (#4)

"I have a better idea. Tally up all their expenses. Figure out how much land that would buy at market value along the border. Then foreclose on the land (mexican side of the border) and make Texas bigger."

With a strong military comes the responsibility to not misuse it for conquest.

You talk like an Israeli talking about Palistinians. Somehow, I am not surprised.

Zionism sucks, even if we do it.


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Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-03-07   15:22:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A K A Stone (#4)

He is one step ahead of you.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-07   15:25:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: All (#6)

Actually, he is light years ahead of you.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-07   15:28:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ferret Mike (#5)

Your take it up the ass by the mexicants isn't working.

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A K A Stone  posted on  2010-03-07   15:51:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: PSUSA (#6)

Great - thanks.

Plan of the new century.

Lod  posted on  2010-03-07   16:11:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: A K A Stone (#8) (Edited)

Your fascist invade and conquer other countries is ignorant.

And hey big fella, cut the gay sex reference. Stop being a bullifying fucking asshole. I've had it with your shit.

You are seventy-five percent barking dog, and twenty-five percent discussion.

Ferret  posted on  2010-03-08   4:12:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Ferret (#10)

woof woof woof.

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A K A Stone  posted on  2010-03-08   7:38:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Horse (#0)

An estimated 460,000 illegal immigrants live in the state.

Estimated by who? I'll bet there are that many just in Phoenix.

Round'em up!

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Flintlock  posted on  2010-03-08   8:34:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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