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Title: Need a little help: info on SPLC and OKC
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Published: Mar 5, 2010
Author: moi
Post Date: 2010-03-05 15:28:27 by bluegrass
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I have a couple of soon-to-be-former-sheep friends on the fence about SPLC. Can anyone supply some good info about their involvement with the OKC bombing? I thought I'd come here first instead of plowing through google. Thanks in advance.
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#1. To: christine, Prefrontal Vortex, Cynicom, Esso, Lod, abraxas, wbales, Bub, Original_Intent, HOUNDDAWG, Deasy (#0)
1) Dees' own book: In October 1994, six months before the bombing of an Oklahoma City federal office building killed 169 people, lawyer Morris Dees wrote to Attorney General Janet Reno, alerting her to the danger posed by right-wing militia groups, whose ranks were swelling with fanatical racists, neo-Nazis and other extremists. 2) http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49510 The FOIA suit began after heavily redacted documents obtained by this newspaper, from an FBI whistleblower, confirmed McVeigh's links to Elohim City and informants working for the Southern Poverty Law Center who were present at the paramilitary compound on April 17, 1995, when McVeigh called the camp looking for German-national Andreas Strassmeir and additional help in the bombing. 3) http://ktok.com/cc-common/feeds/view.php?feed_id=135&feed=/local.html&instance=1&article_id=62328 After 10 years of fighting the federal government to get to the bottom of the death of his brother, Salt Lake City attorney Jesse Trentadue does not consider a federal judge's ruling in a Freedom of Information fight a defeat. If anything, he says it's just the opposite after Judge Dale Kimball ruled last night the FBI in Okahoma City did not have to reveal the names of informants who had targeted Oklahoma City bomber Tim McVeigh before he attacked the Murrah building in 1995 and killed 168 persons. "I think that's huge," said Trentadue in pointing out the judge also accepted as fact 'that there was an undercover operative in with Timothy McVeigh and members of the various militia groups who aided and supported McVeigh'. For the first time in the various legal actions in state and federal courts since 1995, a judge has ruled a government informant or operative was with McVeigh before the bombing. It is something the government has steadfastly denied since the bombing. The judge also wondered, in his ruling why there are no earlier records which have been produced by the FBI about the operation, an operation many have called a 'sting which went bad'. Trentadue had sued the FBI in his fight to learn whether the August 1995 death of his brother Kenneth Trentadue at the Oklahoma City Federal Transfer Center was linked to the government probe of the bombing. Sources had indicated Kenneth Trentadue was a match for one of the Midwestern Bank bandits who had run with McVeigh before the bombing. "While officials ruled the death a suicide, Plaintiff unearthed 'significant evidence of foul play', wrote Judge Kimball in his ruling. But the judge upheld the government's belief it had made promises to informants to keep their identities secret. "The court is satisfied that either express or imlied promises of confidentiality were made and that the information must therefore remain protected," he declared in the ruling. "The court agrees that the redacted information contains information compiled for law enforcement purposes and that it could reasonably be expected to constitute an unwarranted invasion of personal privacy," continued Judge Kimball in his ruling in Utah federal court. However Jesse Trentadue, speaking from his Salt Lake City law offices also feels he has scored another victory because the judge ordered the FBI to do a search of its records for information concerning efforts of the Southern Poverty Law Center to also maintain undercover operators at Elohim City. Trentadue asked the government to do a search for SPLC executive Morris Dees and it refused. 4) http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/01-11-04/discussion.cgi.29.html Referring to a telephone call on April 17, 1995 (alleged to have been from McVeigh), the memo states: “(Name redacted) telephone call from (name redacted) on or about 4/17/95, two days prior to the OKBOMB attack, when (name redacted) of the SPLC, was in the white supremacist compound at (redacted), Oklahoma, notes the director. (Emphasis added) References to an informant working for the SPLC at Elohim City on the eve of the Oklahoma City bombing raises serious questions as to what the SPLC might know about McVeigh’s activities during the final hours before the fuse was lit in Oklahoma City – but which the SPLC has failed to disclose publicly. Questioned during a press conference at Southeastern Oklahoma State University in Durant recently, Dees confirmed someone from his organization was inside the white supremacist compound at Elohim City on April 17, 1995. “If I told you what we were doing there, I would have to kill you,” Dees replied when pressed to explain what this person was doing at a terrorist training camp.
Q: Why don't blacks major in math? Thanks. Incorporated and passed along. Are you a Steve Sailer reader at all?
I don't look at his blog often, but of course I like Vdare.
Q: Why don't blacks major in math? The Strange Death of Terry Yeakey There is something else you might want to show your friend(s).
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. His work "Half-blood Prince" is the best essay on Obama I've read yet. I guess that's why it's been ignored by the larger mass of people that I refuse to call a culture.
Thanks. They might get scared off by a site called 911blogger.com. Maybe after their sheepdom is ended. ; )
Here is something else about Dees you might want to share with others (I do every chance I get 'cause I detest that guy).
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Dees is a vile critter. Trying to convince the brainwashed is a fulltime job.
You're a mean man. ;-)
_________________________________________________________________________ Yeah, he is and yes, it is.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. shhhhhhh. I am trying to keep that on the d-lo. Ya feel me?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
#2. To: bluegrass (#1)
A: Amba-lamba calculus be racis'.
#3. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#2)
#4. To: bluegrass (#3)
A: Amba-lamba calculus be racis'.
#5. To: bluegrass (#3)
Lord Acton
#6. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#4)
#7. To: James Deffenbach (#5)
#8. To: bluegrass (#6)
Lord Acton
#9. To: James Deffenbach (#8)
#10. To: James Deffenbach (#8)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#11. To: bluegrass (#9)
Dees is a vile critter. Trying to convince the brainwashed is a fulltime job.
Lord Acton
#12. To: X-15 (#10)
You're a mean man.
Lord Acton
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