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Title: Starbucks sticking to its guns: Java joint will continue to allow customers to carry legal firearms
Source: NYDailynews.com
URL Source: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat ... s_starbucks.html#ixzz0e8kbURAb
Published: Mar 4, 2010
Author: AP
Post Date: 2010-03-05 16:21:56 by X-15
Ping List: *Shooters*     Subscribe to *Shooters*
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Views: 602
Comments: 54

SEATTLE - It gives new meaning to getting an extra shot in your latte.

Starbucks said it will stick to its policy of letting customers carry guns where it's legal. It does not want to be put in the middle of a larger gun-control debate.

The company's statement, issued Wednesday, was prompted by a campaign by some gun owners who have walked into Starbucks and other businesses to test state laws allowing weapons to be carried openly in public places.

Some of the events were spontaneous and others were bolstered by the pro-gun group OpenCarry.org.

The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence launched a petition drive demanding that the company "offer espresso shots, not gunshots" and declare its coffeehouses "gun-free zones." Subscribe to *Shooters*

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#1. To: X-15 (#0)

good for Starbucks!

christine  posted on  2010-03-05   17:27:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine (#1) (Edited)

I agree. I was over at a friend's house; you know, one of those 'the TV stays on even with company vid addicts,' and this story came on. She started cursing "gun freaks" and "how they ere ruining our country."

I opened my coat and showed her my hidden holster and told her I had a conceled carry permit. That I had left it I my car knowing she would have a herd of dairy cows if I had carried it into her house. (I knew she would disown me as a friend had I disrespected her home and castle with the 'evil' thing.)

It rattled her, but made her think. We talk about it a while and I changed her perspective slightly.

Although she did ask me not to wear the holster as well in her home next time fearing her son would see it and get ideas guns were OK. *Sigh* I am in Eugene, Oregon after all.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-03-06   13:18:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Ferret Mike (#3)

why do you carry a gun?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-06   13:31:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: groundresonance (#4) (Edited)

On that day I was going to Portland, Oregon and going to be moving around Old Town on a Cenelli Bicycle worth some money. And there has been strong armed bicycle thefts on the weekend evenings in the past and I don't trust that place at that time. Just so you don't just think I'm a smart ass needlessly.

Usually I just refuse to explain when I get a question like that. Because this is a forum where the question can be fair game, I'll be nice.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-03-06   13:56:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Ferret Mike (#6)

i see

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-06   14:01:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: groundresonance (#7)

I was chased once for the bike at a light rail stop I had just gotten off at by a group of 'youngters.' I just barely escaped with the bike. I learned from that. Though honestly, sometime I just carry one of my concealables.

I started buying guns when in the U.S. Army and enjoy target shooting. I try not to be an easy target. Someone attacks me without cause of provacation, they are going to be one with a center mass shot.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-03-06   14:21:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Ferret Mike (#8)

maybe you should get a cheap bike, or at least scuff up your fancy one.

sand it down to bare metal, spray it at random with three different colors of primer.

dont wear your tights. or helmet. dress like a bum.

i'm afraid you might fall off your bike and shoot yourself by accident.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-06   14:34:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: groundresonance (#9)

Heh, dude, dude, dude, fall off the bike? Shoot myself by accident? Yeah, right.

For one thing, I am very fit and used to race road bicycles, I don't have to even put my foot down when I balance waiting for the light. As for guns, I have been a gun fanatic my entire life, and I have some years in combat arms in the U.S. Army. Even when I was a 'mere' helicopter crew chief, I went to door gunner school, had to qualify on the hand gun range for the sidearm I had an armsroom card for, and I spend hours and hours doing paint gun playing, shooting at outdoor ranges and the indoor range at Jim's Pawn Shop in Fayetteville.

It's OK, live in your little world and think that liberal views always denote a gun weenie. I don't mind. But that was the most halarious, yet dumb thing you have ever postd to me. ;-D

As for the Cenelli, it is painted with Ferrari Red, has chromed forged lugs and special lightweight clod drawn, butted and heat treated tubing. It had a Campagnolo Churus groupo and is a LADY. I don't dress my ladies in rags. When they are as nice and as valuble a piece as that bike, you let it shine.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-03-06   14:52:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Ferret Mike (#11) (Edited)

well, anyhow, once you've defended your "LADY", and the ambulance hauls off the casualties, and you've made your statement to the cops, it will be a comfort to drop into starbucks, with your gun, to have a five-dollar cup of coffee.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-03-06   14:58:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: groundresonance (#12)

"well, anyhow, once you've defended your "lady", and the ambulance hauls off the casualties, and you've made your statement to the cops, it will be a comfort to drop into starbucks, with your gun, to have a five-dollar cup of coffee."

I hate Starbuck's product, and don't do anything but black coffee. Drip black coffee, expresso sucks. And as far as gun 'statements' go, I have lived with doing that all my life, it would be no new and novel thing to me.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-03-06   15:02:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Ferret Mike, all (#14)

I have never, and Lord willing, will never enter a Starbuck's outlet.

Lod  posted on  2010-03-06   15:08:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Lod (#16)

It's good strong coffee. But it's also one hell of a great diuretic.

PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-06   15:50:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: PSUSA (#21)

I will cop to going to Einstein Bros. every morning for their Euro-French roast.

They have an endless/bottomless cup deal, and with the senior's discount, the cost is just under one buck since I refill my own container.

Lod  posted on  2010-03-06   15:57:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#30. To: Lod (#25)

since I refill my own container.

You're too freakin funny !!!

noone222  posted on  2010-03-06 16:00:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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