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Title: PopQuiz: HOO's yer favorite critter from "Animal Farm"?!
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Published: Mar 7, 2010
Author: Mudboy Slim
Post Date: 2010-03-07 14:50:00 by Mudboy Slim
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Comments: 40
Mudboy KNOWS the answer, so I'll refrain from commenting vis a vis HOO I imagine myself to be, so I will refrain from tainting the potential pool of test subjects with my somewhat-skewed biases...LOL!! But fer the rest of y'all..."HOO amongst the Animal Farm cast do you most empathize?!" Quite sincerely...MUD BTW...this is a multi-Forum requirement insisted upon by the ObamaNationCensus2010 committee on preserving YER CIVIL RIGHTS AS AMERICANS...I apologize, my friends, I am just doing my job...
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#1. To: Mudboy Slim (#0)
MUD, speaking of food fights, now how did I know you were about to show up? Howdy.
I'm gonna count that as a non-answer, my tree-huggin' friend...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, OK, either Moses the crow or Clover, Boxer the horse's girlfriend. That an answer?
Moses actually represents the Russian Orthodox Church in the novel, Mike. : ) Clover is a better choice, I think, because she is an allusion to the working class people. She cannot see how cruel other animals can be as she opts to see the best in all.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
True; but my favorite counter-culture teahouse got turned into one of those ROCs, and the head priest and I are friends. Friends that don't see eye to eye, mind you. But whenever I see the beared one in a black robe saundering my way heading past my porch -- no doubt everready to deliver yet another nugget of his wisdom, I sometimes see a ghost of a crow sitting on his shoulder. (Those clattering Russian church bells are irritating as the dickens too.) As for Clover, that's what I like about her. I actually had a girlfriend like her years ago. I tend to be more cynical than she was, so alas, it didn't last. A shame too, she was a charmer.
Mud, I'm going to have to go with Benjamin the donkey on this one.......in the end, his fault is inaction although he could clearly see the writing on the wall. Sadly, I think many of us can relate to that.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Mudboy's favorite pals... Rush Limbaugh and GWBush and Dick Cheney.
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan, circa 1977
Heh heh heh...hey there, bucky, yer welcome to play, too...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, your favorite animal was Napoleon.
Excellent answer (not that there are any WRONG answers to the question...lol). I tell you, though, I read that book fer the first time back in Junior High, and one character just jumped out at me, the critter I most empathized with...and NO, bucky, it was NOT TrickyDick Cheney...LOL!!
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, How 'bout you, Mr. Stone?
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Interesting...I had never heard that before, but it sorta fits, doesn't it?
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, That works, my friend...as fer Clover, wasn't she the one who kept sneaking sugar cubes from the adjoining farmers and eventually ran off and quit the Revolution?
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, I think it fits because Moses was deemed useful to the pigs when conditions got worse, although they did not agree with him or trust him. Moses returns and Nepoleon and his dogs see how useful it is for Moses to rant about Sugarcandy Mountain.....so they buy him off for a "gill of beer a day." When Stalin needed to drum up patriotic support for the war against Germany in 1941, he re-instituted the church. Stalin could see how useful the church is to a totalitarian leader. However, the church was rather bought off because the teachings really didn't fall in line with what Stalin was doing. When are you going to share which character you had the most empathy for, Mud? Inquiring minds want to know. : )
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
I can't remember all their names. I guess I liked the horse or whatever it was that was working.
"Bucky's Wager..." "Find any any record of ElRushbo's discussion about the Second Amendment as a method of Constitutionality and I will donate 500 bucks to FR, in your name Steve." Hmmm...still lookin'...LOL!! No, not really, but now that Rush has his archives up and accessible, it may actually be something I can muster. Not that I expect you to send 500 bucks to JimRob (lol), but I'm pretty certain I've heard him passionately defend the 2nd Amendment on more than one occasion. Proof's in the puddin', though, right? I'll ping you if I find the evidence...Steve BTW...yer name still "Bill"?
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Yep...Boxer was my boy, too...that horse could work his butt off, and the damned RAT-bastard pigs just ran his arse into the ground. Boxer led a noble life, but the Leftists turned him into a Marxist TOOL...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, LOL...oh yeah, I'm sure...heh heh heh. No, as I told Mr. Stone in the post above, Boxer is my hero, he's the critter I most empathize with. See, Boxer wasn't the smartest animal around, but he always had a good heart, and once he became convinced of the worthiness of his chosen cause, there was no one who could stop him from making his project a successful one. However, the way the scumbag pigs used and abused his idealism always bothered me more than pretty much everything else they did, even the rampant EffeteElite LIES!! Regards...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Heh heh heh...exactly!! You must have the book handy, or do you actually remember it that well? So, it was Moses who introduced the Sugarcandy Mountain propoganda? I need a refresher read of "AF", I reckon, I couldda sworn the pigs came up with that KRAP, specifically "Squealer"...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, My money was on you picking hard working, strong and much admired Boxer, Mud. : ) As an allegorical figure, Boxer represents the Russian working class, along with Clover. But, I think that Owell viewed the working class as pawns because it was the strength of the working class that allowed for the Russian Revolution in 1917. In Animal Farm, the pigs could never have come into power without the strength of the good-spirited and much admired Boxer.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
lol.....I recently re-read Animal Farm and 1984. In particular, I was interested in Orwell's Animal farm in relation to allegory and the Soviet regime. Otherwise, I would not be able to recall the allegorical relationships with the characters at this time. For once, I was prepared for a pop quiz. Currently, I'm re-reading Call of the Wild. : )
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Mollie is a self-centered, self-indulgent and vain young white mare who likes wearing ribbons in her mane, eating sugar cubes, and being pampered and groomed by humans. She quickly leaves for another farm and is only once mentioned again.
"He is the wisest who seeks God. He is the most successful who has found God." My point exactly...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Very well said, my friend...Boxer unwittingly allowed his idealism to be used against him and his Cause as he became the prototypical Marxist TOOL (aka ignorant DUPE). Let's not kid ourselves, Obama--and many of the RATS/RINOs-- see themselves as Napolean and they've got their RAT-Media and the RAT- educators and the growing contingent of UnionTHUG-RAT-bureaucRATS to try and enslave WeThePeople (see also Boxer) with their beloved all-powerful Federal Leviathan. What George Orwell did not foresee was the flourishing of the Information Age and the World-Wide Web and talk-radio. RATS may not like it, but all their brainwashing failed to convince a hearty contingent of Patriots that their Marxist/Progressive/Socialist/Lib'ral Agenda is superior to that envisioned by our Founding Fathers. Sure, the RAT-Media was successful in fooling the electorate into electing the RAT-Messiah based on his LIES (buttressed by the RAT-Media's LIES), but WeThePeople are armed with the Truth to the point that the Great&MercifulLordMessiah Obama can't git his ambitious Marxist Agenda accomplished!! If the Truth is available fer mass-distribution to WeThePeople, I will put my money on WeThePeople to reject the RATS' Totalitarian Dreams and defeat the ObamaNation's VILE Leftist intentions. Sunlight is always the best disinfectant...long live TheTruth!! Regards...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Thanks fer the correction, Esso, you are 100% correct. I also admire Clover, now that I recall her role...it was Molly who reminded me so much of the HollyWeirdos...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Interesting...I recently visited the Holocaust Museum in DeeCee...if you haven't yet, I recommend it highly. Anyway, down in the lower level, they had a major exhibit detailing the Nazi Propoganda Machine and it reminds me SOOO MUCH of how the RAT-Media is propgandizing fer the RAT-Messiah. Now that you've mentioned it, I think it would be quite instructional to compare the Soviet's brainwashing to the Nazi's brainwashing to the Progressive Left in America's brainwashing. I'll be the similarities are striking. "Currently, I'm re-reading Call of the Wild. :)" Hmmm...read it once and remember liking it, but I've never re-read any Jack London. Sounds like a worthwhile endeavor once I finish up a coupla other non- fiction books I've got on my list
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Excellent book. I re-read that one and White Fang last fall. Found them in a used book store and got them for nearly nothing.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I've been finding oldies but goodies at the library sales. : )
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Yes, I agree. I've only scratched the surface but the similitarities are already evident. People are doomed for lack of knowledge of history. Sigh. It's so Orwellian, this whole "progressive" mantra. I'd go visit the museum if I were ever to go to DC. Hitler learned much from the Soviets in many ways. I enjoyed this thread, Mud. : )
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Sunlight is always the best disinfectant...long live TheTruth!! I'd like to share your optimism, but, alas, there is a great deal of brainwashing well under way. Obama uses the welfare state to his advantage. However, a dollar collapse could change tactic real fast. We the People should have had out pitchforks out decades ago. The apathy has been apalling. We pay more for education, resulting in less educated kids. We pay into entitlement programs, that are robbed year in and year out, while the MSM claims these are "unfunded" programs. Doesn't anybody ask where all that they have paid year in and year out has gone? People continue to fall for silly elementary class president campaigns based on hope and change. So many people simply do not have a clue about government or history. Sigh. I agree completely about sunlight and truth though. We need more of both. : )
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
The place I found these, a place called The Bookworm, sells used books to benefit the library. Good deal for everyone.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. You know, James, instead of re-reading "Call of the Wild", I think I'll read "White Fang" fer the first time...are they comparable?
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, I reckon so...yer the only one HOO studied fer this PopQuiz...LOL!!
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Both good books, both very well written. I enjoyed both of them.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Thank you, JimmieDee...you don't mind if I call you "JimmieDee", do you?
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, No, not at all. I have been called worse I reckon.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. "I'd like to share your optimism..." Then please do, my friend...I don't have the EXACT quote available, but I've got a audio cassette copy of Rush Limbaugh explaining why WeThePeople are ultimately gonna WHUP the RATS/RINOs buttocks...his point was, we may not outnumber the RATS, but we out-POWER them!! You know what he means? RATS are BureaucRATS and Victims, not DOERS and CREATORS and folks HOO just seem to understand how BLESSED we are to live in a Country that has as many LIBERTIES as we still possess...and we're SICK and friggin' TIRED of forfeiting our FREEDOMS so that a bucnha Know-It-Alls can tell us how to live our friggin' LIVES!! "...but, alas, there is a great deal of brainwashing well under way." Which we shall relentlessly counteract with the TRUTH!! "Obama uses the welfare state to his advantage." All the RATS/Progressives/Marxists/Leftists/Totalitarians/EffeteElitists do, imho. "However, a dollar collapse could change tactic real fast." I sincerely hope yer wrong. "We the People should have had out pitchforks out decades ago. The apathy has been apalling." I've been actively freepin' since '97-'98...but the ONE TIME I brought my pitchfork (of course I have one...don't YOU?!!)...and it ain't sharp. But the one time I brought it to DeeCee--as a prop--they made me walk all the way back to the MudMobile and put it away becuz the DeeCeePolice thought it could be construed as a weapon. Betcha if a bunch of WeThePeople brought pitchforks to DeeCee fer the next TeaParty we could maybe challenge that all the way up to the SCOTUS...LOL!! "We pay more for education, resulting in less educated kids. We pay into entitlement programs, that are robbed year in and year out, while the MSM claims these are "unfunded" programs. Doesn't anybody ask where all that they have paid year in and year out has gone? People continue to fall for silly elementary class president campaigns based on hope and change. So many people simply do not have a clue about government or history. Sigh." Preach on, my friend...we just gotta git more folks to realize BigGuv'ment HURTS EVERYONE!! "I agree completely about sunlight and truth though. We need more of both." Indeed...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Heh heh heh...you and me both...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, BTW...I'm not sure that Civil Disobedience is advisable in the present political environment...in fact, I KNOW that Civil Obedience SCARES the Bejeeezus outta the RATS more than anything. As we've discussed in the past, the Leftist RATS have NO DEFENSE fer a righteous man with a RightWingPlan...same applies fer RighteousMovements (like the TeaPartyMovement}!! REgards...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, A widely-circulated email from a co-worker...pass it on... "THANK GOD FOR BARACK OBAMA!!" "He destroyed the Clinton Political Machine - Driving a stake thru the heart of Hillary's Presidential aspirations - something no Republican was ever able to do. Remember when a Hillary Presidency scared the daylights out of you! He killed off the Kennedy Dynasty - No more Kennedy's trolling Washington looking for booze and women wanting rides home. American women and Freedom are safer tonight! He is destroying the Democratic Party before our eyes! Dennis Moore had never lost a race - quit Evan Bayh had never lost a race - quit Byron Dorgan - had never lost a race - quit Harry Reid - bid for re-election doesn't look good These are just a handful of the Democrats whose political careers Obama has destroyed! By the end of 2010 dozens more will be! In December of 2008 the Democrats were on the rise. In the last two election cycles they had picked up 14 senate seats and 52 house seats. The press was touting the death of the Conservative Movement and the Republican Party. In one year Obama put a stop to all of this and will probably give the House, if not the Senate, back to the Republicans. He has completely exposed liberals and progressives for what they are. Every Generation seems to need to relearn the lesson on why they should never actually put liberals in charge. He is bringing home the lesson very well! Liberals tax, borrow and spend - check Liberals won't bring themselves to protect America - check Liberals want to take over the economy - check Liberals think they know what is best for everyone - check Liberals aren't happy till they are running YOUR life - check He has brought more Americans back to conservatism than anyone since Reagan In One year he rejuvenated the Conservative movement and brought out to the streets millions of Freedom Loving Americans Name me one other time in your life that you saw your friends and neighbors this interested in taking back America! In all honesty one year ago I was more afraid than I had ever been in my life. Not of the economy but of the direction our country was going. I thought Americans had forgotten what this country was all about. My neighbors, friends, strangers proved to me that my lack of confidence of the Greatness and Wisdom of the American people was flat out wrong. When the American People wake up, no smooth talking teleprompter reader can fool them! Barack Obama woke up these Great Americans Again, I want say Thank You Barack Obama!" WooHOOO!! The RAT-Messiah ROCKS...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Toruk Makto
#2. To: Ferret Mike (#1)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#3. To: Mudboy Slim (#2)
(Edited)
Toruk Makto
#4. To: Ferret Mike (#3)
OK, either Moses the crow or Clover, Boxer the horse's girlfriend.
#5. To: abraxas (#4)
"Moses actually represents the Russian Orthodox Church in the novel, Mike."
Toruk Makto
#6. To: Mudboy Slim (#0)
#7. To: Mudboy Slim (#0)
Mudboy KNOWS the answer
#8. To: buckeroo (#7)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#9. To: buckeroo (#7)
#10. To: abraxas (#6)
"I'm going to have to go with Benjamin the donkey on this one.......in the end, his fault is inaction although he could clearly see the writing on the wall. Sadly, I think many of us can relate to that."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#11. To: A K A Stone (#9)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#12. To: abraxas (#4)
"Moses actually represents the Russian Orthodox Church in the novel, Mike. : )"
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#13. To: Ferret Mike (#3)
"That an answer?"
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#14. To: Mudboy Slim (#12)
Interesting...I had never heard that before, but it sorta fits, doesn't it?
#15. To: Mudboy Slim (#11)
#16. To: buckeroo (#7)
35 posted on Thursday, January 17, 2002 1:16:21 AM by Buckeroo
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#17. To: A K A Stone (#15)
"I guess I liked the horse or whatever it was that was working."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#18. To: abraxas, A K A Stone (#14)
"When are you going to share which character you had the most empathy for, Mud? Inquiring minds want to know. : )"
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#19. To: abraxas (#14)
"Moses returns and Napoleon and his dogs see how useful it is for Moses to rant about Sugarcandy Mountain.....so they buy him off for a "gill of beer a day."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#20. To: Mudboy Slim (#17)
Boxer was my boy, too...that horse could work his butt off, and the damned RAT-bastard pigs just ran his arse into the ground. Boxer led a noble life, but the Leftists turned him into a Marxist TOOL...MUD
#21. To: Mudboy Slim (#19)
(Edited)
You must have the book handy, or do you actually remember it that well?
#22. To: Mudboy Slim (#13)
(Edited)
...as fer Clover, wasn't she the one who kept sneaking sugar cubes from the adjoining farmers and eventually ran off and quit the Revolution?
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#23. To: Ferret Mike, SammieGee, war (#1)
"Howdy."
--Paramahansa Yogananda, from "The Law of Success"
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#24. To: abraxas (#20)
"As an allegorical figure, Boxer represents the Russian working class, along with Clover. But, I think that Owell viewed the working class as pawns because it was the strength of the working class that allowed for the Russian Revolution in 1917. In Animal Farm, the pigs could never have come into power without the strength of the good-spirited and much admired Boxer."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#25. To: Esso (#22)
"Mollie is a self-centered, self-indulgent and vain young white mare..."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#26. To: abraxas (#21)
"I recently re-read Animal Farm and 1984. In particular, I was interested in Orwell's Animal farm in relation to allegory and the Soviet regime."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#27. To: abraxas (#21)
Currently, I'm re-reading Call of the Wild. : )
Lord Acton
#28. To: James Deffenbach (#27)
Found them in a used book store and got them for nearly nothing.
#29. To: Mudboy Slim (#26)
Now that you've mentioned it, I think it would be quite instructional to compare the Soviet's brainwashing to the Nazi's brainwashing to the Progressive Left in America's brainwashing. I'll be the similarities are striking.
#30. To: Mudboy Slim (#24)
If the Truth is available fer mass-distribution to WeThePeople, I will put my money on WeThePeople
#31. To: abraxas (#28)
I've been finding oldies but goodies at the library sales. : )
Lord Acton
#32. To: James Deffenbach (#27)
"I re-read that one and White Fang last fall."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#33. To: abraxas (#29)
"I enjoyed this thread..."
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#34. To: Mudboy Slim (#32)
You know, James, instead of re-reading "Call of the Wild", I think I'll read "White Fang" fer the first time...are they comparable?
Lord Acton
#35. To: James Deffenbach (#34)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#36. To: Mudboy Slim (#35)
Thank you, JimmieDee...you don't mind if I call you "JimmieDee", do you?
Lord Acton
#37. To: abraxas (#30)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#38. To: James Deffenbach (#36)
"I have been called worse I reckon."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#39. To: All (#37)
(Edited)
"Betcha if a bunch of WeThePeople brought pitchforks to DeeCee fer the next TeaParty we could maybe challenge that all the way up to the SCOTUS...LOL!!"
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#40. To: abraxas, ALL (#30)
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