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What is it Like to Teach Black Students?

by Christopher Jackson

Until recently I taught at a predominantly black high school in a southeastern state.

The mainstream press gives a hint of what conditions are like in black schools, but only a hint. Expressions journalists use like “chaotic” or “poor learning environment” or “lack of discipline” do not capture what really happens. There is nothing like the day-to-day experience of teaching black children and that is what I will try to convey.

One of the most immediately striking things about my students was that they were loud. They had little conception of ordinary decorum. It was not unusual for five students to be screaming at me at once.

It did no good to try to quiet them and white women were particularly inept at trying. I sat in on one woman’s class as she begged the children to pipe down. They just yelled louder so their voices would carry over hers.

They seemed to have no conception of waiting for an appropriate time to say something. They would get ideas in their heads and simply had to shout them out. I might be leading a discussion on government and suddenly be interrupted: “We gotta get more Democrats! Clinton, she good!” The student may seem content with that outburst but two minutes later, he would suddenly start yelling again: “Clinton good!”

Anyone who is around young blacks will probably get a constant diet of rap music. Blacks often make up their own jingles, and it was not uncommon for 15 boys to swagger into a classroom, bouncing their shoulders and jiving back.

They were yelling back and forth, rapping 15 different sets of words in the same harsh, rasping dialect. The words were almost invariably a childish form of boasting: “Who got dem shine rim, who got dem shine shoe, who got dem shine grill (gold and silver dental caps)?” The amateur rapper usually ends with a claim—in the crudest terms imaginable—that all womankind is sexually devoted to him. For whatever reason, my students would often groan instead of saying a particular word, as in, “She suck dat aaahhhh (think of a long grinding groan), she f**k dat aaaahhhh, she lick dat aaaahhh.”

So many black girls dance in the hall, in the classroom, on the chairs, next to the chairs, under the chairs, everywhere. Once I took a call on my cell phone and had to step outside of class. I was away about two minutes but when I got back, the girls had lined up at the front of the classroom and were convulsing to the delight of the boys.

Many black people, especially women, are enormously fat. Some are so fat I had to arrange special seating to accommodate their bulk. I am not saying there are no fat white students—there are—but it is a matter of numbers and attitudes. Many black girls simply do not care that they are fat. There are plenty of white anorexics, but I have never met or heard of a black anorexic.

“Black women be big Mr. Jackson,” my students would explain.

“Is it okay in the black community to be a little overweight?” I ask. Two obese girls in front of my desk begin to dance, “You know dem boys lak juicy fruit, Mr. Jackson.” “Juicy” is a colorful black expression for the buttocks.

Blacks, on average, are the most directly critical people I have ever met: “Dat shirt stupid. Yo’ kid a bastard. Yo’ lips big.” Unlike whites, who tread gingerly around the subject of race, they can be brutally to the point. Once I needed to send a student to the office to deliver a message. I asked for volunteers, and suddenly you would think my classroom was a bastion of civic engagement. Thirty dark hands shot into the air. My students loved to leave the classroom and slack off, even if just for a few minutes, away from the eye of white authority. I picked a light-skinned boy to deliver the message. One very black student was indignant: “You pick da half-breed.” And immediately other blacks take up the cry, and half a dozen mouths are screaming, “He half-breed.”

For decades, the country has been lamenting the poor academic performance of blacks and there is much to lament. There is no question, however, that many blacks come to school with a serious handicap that is not their fault. At home they have learned a dialect that is almost a different language. Blacks not only mispronounce words; their grammar is often wrong. When a black wants to ask, “Where is the bathroom?” he may actually say “Whar da badroom be?” Grammatically, this is the equivalent of “Where the bathroom is?” And this is the way they speak in high school. Students write the way they speak, so this is the language that shows up in written assignments.

It is true that some whites face a similar handicap. They speak with what I would call a “country” accent that is hard to reproduce but results in sentences such as “I’m gonna gemme a Coke.” Some of these country whites had to learn correct pronunciation and usage. The difference is that most whites overcome this handicap and learn to speak correctly; many blacks do not.

Most of the blacks I taught simply had no interest in academic subjects. I taught history, and students would often say they didn’t want to do an assignment or they didn’t like history because it was all about white people. Of course, this was “diversity” history, in which every cowboy’s black cook got a special page on how he contributed to winning the West, but black children still found it inadequate. So I would throw up my hands and assign them a project on a real, historical black person. My favorite was Marcus Garvey. They had never heard of him, and I would tell them to research him, but they never did. They didn’t care and they didn’t want to do any work.

Anyone who teaches blacks soon learns that they have a completely different view of government from whites. Once I decided to fill 25 minutes by having students write about one thing the government should do to improve America. I gave this question to three classes totaling about 100 students, approximately 80 of whom were black. My white students came back with generally “conservative” ideas. “We need to cut off people who don’t work,” was the most common suggestion. Nearly every black gave a variation on the theme of “We need more government services.”

My students had only the vaguest notion of who pays for government services. For them, it was like a magical piggy bank that never goes empty. One black girl was exhorting the class on the need for more social services and I kept trying to explain that people, real live people, are taxed for the money to pay for those services. “Yeah, it come from whites,” she finally said. “They stingy anyway.”

“Many black people make over $50,000 dollars a year and you would also be taking away from your own people,” I said.

She had an answer to that: “Dey half breed.” The class agreed. I let the subject drop.

Many black girls are perfectly happy to be welfare queens. On career day, one girl explained to the class that she was going to have lots of children and get fat checks from the government. No one in the class seemed to have any objection to this career choice.

Surprising attitudes can come out in class discussion. We were talking about the crimes committed in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, and I brought up the rape of a young girl in the bathroom of the Superdome. A majority of my students believed this was a horrible crime but a few took it lightly. One black boy spoke up without raising his hand: “Dat no big deal. They thought they is gonna die so they figured they have some fun. Dey jus’ wanna have a fun time; you know what I’m sayin’?” A few black heads nodded in agreement.

My department head once asked all the teachers to get a response from all students to the following question: “Do you think it is okay to break the law if it will benefit you greatly?” By then, I had been teaching for a while and was not surprised by answers that left a young, liberal, white woman colleague aghast. “Yeah” was the favorite answer. As one student explained, “Get dat green.”

There is a level of conformity among blacks that whites would find hard to believe. They like one kind of music: rap. They will vote for one political party: Democrat. They dance one way, speak one way, are loud the same way, and fail their exams in the same way. Of course, there are exceptions but they are rare.

Whites are different. Some like country music, others heavy metal, some prefer pop, and still others, God forbid, enjoy rap music. They have different associations, groups, almost ideologies. There are jocks, nerds, preppies, and hunters. Blacks are all— well—black, and they are quick to let other blacks know when they deviate from the norm.

One might object that there are important group differences among blacks that a white man simply cannot detect. I have done my best to find them, but so far as I can tell, they dress the same, talk the same, think the same. Certainly, they form rival groups, but the groups are not different in any discernible way. There simply are no groups of blacks that are as distinctly different from each other as white “nerds,” “hunters,” or “Goths,” for example.

How the world looks to blacks One point on which all blacks agree is that everything is “racis’.” This is one message of liberalism they have absorbed completely. Did you do your homework? “Na, homework racis’.” Why did you get an F on the test? “Test racis’.”

I was trying to teach a unit on British philosophers and the first thing the students noticed about Bentham, Hobbes, and Locke was “Dey all white! Where da black philosophers’?” I tried to explain there were no blacks in eighteenth century Britain. You can probably guess what they said to that: “Dat racis’!” One student accused me of deliberately failing him on a test because I didn’t like black people.

“Do you think I really hate black people?” “Yeah.” “Have I done anything to make you feel this way? How do you know?” “You just do.” “Why do you say that?”

He just smirked, looked out the window, and sucked air through his teeth. Perhaps this was a regional thing, but the blacks often sucked air through their teeth as a wordless expression of disdain or hostility.

My students were sometimes unable to see the world except through the lens of their own blackness. I had a class that was host to a German exchange student. One day he put on a Power Point presentation with famous German landmarks as well as his school and family.

From time to time during the presentation, blacks would scream, “Where da black folk?!” The exasperated German tried several times to explain that there were no black people where he lived in Germany. The students did not believe him. I told them Germany is in Europe, where white people are from, and Africa is where black people are from. They insisted that the German student was racist and deliberately refused to associate with blacks.

Blacks are keenly interested in their own racial characteristics. I have learned, for example, that some blacks have “good hair.” Good hair is black parlance for black-white hybrid hair. Apparently, it is less kinky, easier to style, and considered more attractive. Blacks are also proud of light skin. Imagine two black students shouting insults across the room. One is dark but slim; the other light and obese. The dark one begins the exchange: “You fat, Ridario!” Ridario smiles, doesn’t deign to look at his detractor, shakes his head like a wobbling top, and says, “You wish you light skinned.”

They could go on like this, repeating the same insults over and over.

My black students had nothing but contempt for Hispanic immigrants. They would vent their feelings so crudely that our department strongly advised us never to talk about immigration in class in case the principal or some outsider might overhear.

Whites were “racis’,” of course, but they thought of us at least as Americans. Not the Mexicans. Blacks have a certain, not necessarily hostile understanding of white people. They know how whites act, and it is clear they believe whites are smart and are good at organizing things. At the same time, they probably suspect whites are just putting on an act when they talk about equality, as if it is all a sham that makes it easier for whites to control blacks. Blacks want a bigger piece of the American pie. I’m convinced that if it were up to them they would give whites a considerably smaller piece than whites get now, but they would give us something. They wouldn’t give Mexicans anything.

What about black boys and white girls? No one is supposed to notice this or talk about it but it is glaringly obvious: Black boys are obsessed with white girls. I’ve witnessed the following drama countless times. A black boy saunters up to a white girl. The cocky black dances around her, not really in a menacing way. It’s more a shuffle than a threat. As he bobs and shuffles he asks, “When you gonna go wit’ me?”

There are two kinds of reply. The more confident white girl gets annoyed, looks away from the black and shouts, “I don’t wanna go out with you!” The more demure girl will look at her feet and mumble a polite excuse but ultimately say no.

There is only one response from the black boy: “You racis’.” Many girls—all too many—actually feel guilty because they do not want to date blacks. Most white girls at my school stayed away from blacks, but a few, particularly the ones who were addicted to drugs, fell in with them.

There is something else that is striking about blacks. They seem to have no sense of romance, of falling in love. What brings men and women together is sex, pure and simple, and there is a crude openness about this. There are many degenerate whites, of course, but some of my white students were capable of real devotion and tenderness, emotions that seemed absent from blacks—especially the boys.

Black schools are violent and the few whites who are too poor to escape are caught in the storm. The violence is astonishing, not so much that it happens, but the atmosphere in which it happens. Blacks can be smiling, seemingly perfectly content with what they are doing, having a good time, and then, suddenly start fighting. It’s uncanny. Not long ago, I was walking through the halls and a group of black boys were walking in front of me. All of a sudden they started fighting with another group in the hallway.

Blacks are extraordinarily quick to take offense. Once I accidentally scuffed a black boy’s white sneaker with my shoe. He immediately rubbed his body up against mine and threatened to attack me. I stepped outside the class and had a security guard escort the student to the office. It was unusual for students to threaten teachers physically this way, but among themselves, they were quick to fight for similar reasons.

The real victims are the unfortunate whites caught in this. They are always in danger and their educations suffer. White weaklings are particularly susceptible, but mostly to petty violence. They may be slapped or get a couple of kicks when they are trying to open a bottom locker. Typically, blacks save the hard, serious violence for each other.

There was a lot of promiscuous sex among my students and this led to violence. Black girls were constantly fighting over black boys. It was not uncommon to see two girls literally ripping each other’s hair out with a police officer in the middle trying to break up the fight. The black boy they were fighting over would be standing by with a smile, enjoying the show he had created. For reasons I cannot explain, boys seldom fought over girls.

Pregnancy was common among the blacks, though many black girls were so fat I could not tell the difference. I don’t know how many girls got abortions, but when they had the baby they usually stayed in school and had their own parents look after the child. The school did not offer daycare.

Aside from the police officers constantly on campus, security guards are everywhere in black schools—we had one on every hall. They also sat in on unruly classes and escorted students to the office. They were unarmed but worked closely with the three city police officers who were constantly on duty.

There was a lot of drug-dealing at my school. This was a way to make a fair amount of money but it also gave boys power over girls who wanted drugs. An addicted girl—black or white—became the plaything of anyone who could get her drugs.

One of my students was a notorious drug dealer. Everyone knew it. He was 19 years old and in eleventh grade. Once he got a score of three out of 100 on a test. He had been locked up four times since he was 13.

One day, I asked him, “Why do you come to school?”

He wouldn’t answer. He just looked out the window, smiled, and sucked air through his teeth. His friend Yidarius ventured an explanation: “He get dat green and get dem females.”

“What is the green?” I asked. “Money or dope?” “Both,” said Yidarius with a smile.

A very fat student interrupted from across the room: “We get dat lunch,” Mr. Jackson. “We gotta get dat lunch and brickfuss.” He means the free breakfast and lunch poor students get every day. “Nigga, we know’d you be lovin’ brickfuss!” shouts another student.

Some readers may believe that I have drawn a cruel caricature of black students. After all, according to official figures some 85 percent of them graduate. It would be instructive to know how many of those scraped by with barely a C- record. They go from grade to grade and they finally get their diplomas because there is so much pressure on teachers to push them through. It saves money to move them along, the school looks good and the teachers look good.

Many of these children should have been failed but the system would crack under their weight if they were all held back.

How did my experiences make me feel about blacks? Ultimately, I lost sympathy for them. In so many ways they seem to make their own beds. There they were in an integrationist’s fantasy—in the same classroom with white students, eating the same lunch, using the same bathrooms, listening to the same teachers—and yet the blacks fail while the whites pass.

One tragic outcome among whites who have been teaching for too long is that it can engender something close to hatred. One teacher I knew gave up fast food—not for health reasons but because where he lived most fast-food workers were black. He had enough of blacks on the job. This was an extreme example but years of frustration can take their toll. Many of my white colleagues with any experience were well on their way to that state of mind.

There is an unutterable secret among teachers: Almost all realize that blacks do not respond to traditional white instruction. Does that put the lie to environmentalism? Not at all. It is what brings about endless, pointless innovation that is supposed to bring blacks up to the white level. The solution is more diversity—or put more generally, the solution is change. Change is an almost holy word in education, and you can fail a million times as long as you keep changing. That is why liberals keep revamping the curriculum and the way it is taught. For example, teachers are told that blacks need hands-on instruction and more group work.

Teachers are told that blacks are more vocal and do not learn through reading and lectures. The implication is that they have certain traits that lend themselves to a different kind of teaching.

Whites have learned a certain way for centuries but it just doesn’t work with blacks. Of course, this implies racial differences but if pressed, most liberal teachers would say different racial learning styles come from some indefinable cultural characteristic unique to blacks. Therefore, schools must change, America must change. But into what? How do you turn quantum physics into hands-on instruction or group work? No one knows, but we must keep changing until we find something that works.

Public school has certainly changed since anyone reading this was a student. I have a friend who teaches elementary school and she tells me that every week the students get a new diversity lesson, shipped in fresh from some bureaucrat’s office in Washington or the state capital. She showed me the materials for one week: a large poster, about the size of a forty-two inch flat-screen television. It shows an utterly diverse group—I mean diverse: handicapped, Muslim, Jewish, effeminate, poor, rich, brown, slightly brown, yellow, etc.—sitting at a table, smiling gaily, accomplishing some undefined task. The poster comes with a sheet of questions the teacher is supposed to ask. One might be: “These kids sure look different, but they look happy. Can you tell me which one in the picture is an American?”

Some eight-year-old, mired in ignorance, will point to a white child like himself. “That one.”

The teacher reads from the answer, conveniently printed along with the question. “No, Billy, all these children are Americans. They are just as American as you.”

This is what happens at predominately white, middle-class, elementary schools everywhere. Elementary school teachers love All of the Colors of the Race, by award-winning children’s poet Arnold Adoff.

These are some of the lines they read to the children: “Mama is chocolate … Daddy is vanilla … Me (sic) is better … It is a new color. It is a new flavor. For love. Sometimes blackness seems too black for me, and whiteness is too sickly pale; and I wish every one were golden. Remember: long ago before people moved and migrated, and mixed and matched … there was one people: one color, one race. The colors are flowing from what was before me to what will be after. All the colors.”

Teaching as a career It may come as a surprise after what I have written, but my experiences have given me a deep appreciation for teaching as a career. It offers a stable, middle-class life but comes with the capacity to make real differences in the lives of children. In our modern, atomized world children often have very little communication with adults—especially, or even, with their parents—so there is potential for a real transaction between pupil and teacher, disciple and master.

A rewarding relationship can grow up between an exceptional, interested student and his teacher. I have stayed in my classroom with a group of students discussing ideas and playing chess until the janitor kicked us out. I was the old gentleman, imparting my history, culture, personal loves and triumphs, defeats and failures to young kinsman. Sometimes I fancied myself Tyrtaeus, the Spartan poet, who counseled the youth to honor and loyalty. I never had this kind intimacy with a black student, and I know of no other white teacher who did.

Teaching can be fun. For a certain kind of person it is exhilarating to map out battles on chalkboards, and teach heroism. It is rewarding to challenge liberal prejudices, to leave my mark on these children, but what I aimed for with my white students I could never achieve with the blacks.

There is a kind of child whose look can melt your heart: some working-class castaway, in and out of foster homes, often abused, who is nevertheless almost an angel. Your heart melts for these children, this refuse of the modern world.

Many white students possess a certain innocence; their cheeks still blush. Try as I might, I could not get the blacks to care one bit about Beethoven or Sherman’s march to the sea, or Tyrtaeus, or Oswald Spengler, or even liberals like John Rawls, or their own history. They cared about nothing I tried to teach them. When this goes on year after year it chokes the soul out of a teacher, destroys his pathos, and sends him guiltily searching for The Bell Curve on the Internet.

Blacks break down the intimacy that can be achieved in the classroom, and leave you convinced that that intimacy is really a form of kinship. Without intending to, they destroy what is most beautiful—whether it be your belief in human equality, your daughter’s innocence, or even the state of the hallway.

Just last year I read on the bathroom stall the words “F**k Whitey.” Not two feet away, on the same stall, was a small swastika.

The National Council for the Social Studies, the leading authority on social science education in the United States, urges teachers to inculcate such values as equality of opportunity, individual property rights, and a democratic form of government. Even if teachers could inculcate this milquetoast ideology into whites, liberalism is doomed because so many non-whites are not receptive to education of any kind beyond the merest basics.

It is impossible to get them to care about such abstractions as property rights or democratic citizenship. They do not see much further than the fact that you live in a big house and “we in da pro-jek.” Of course, there are a few loutish whites who will never think past their next meal and a few sensitive blacks for whom anything is possible, but no society takes on the characteristics of its exceptions.

Once I asked my students, “What do you think of the Constitution?” “It white,” one slouching black rang out. The class began to laugh. And I caught myself laughing along with them, laughing while Pompeii’s volcano simmers, while the barbarians swell around the Palatine, while the country I love, and the job I love, and the community I love become dimmer by the day.

I read a book by an expatriate Rhodesian who visited Zimbabwe not too many years ago. Traveling with a companion, she stopped at a store along the highway. A black man materialized next to her car window. “Job, boss, (I) work good, boss,” he pleaded. “You give job.”

“What happened to your old job?” the expatriate white asked. The man replied in the straightforward manner of his race: “We drove out the whites. No more jobs. You give job.”

At some level, my students understand the same thing. One day I asked the bored, black faces staring back at me. “What would happen if all the white people in America disappeared tomorrow?”

“We screwed,” a young, pitch-black boy screamed back. The rest of the blacks laughed.

I have had children tell me to my face as they struggled with an assignment. “I cain’t do dis,” Mr. Jackson. “I black.”

The point is that human beings are not always rational. It is in the black man’s interest to have whites in Zimbabwe but he drives them out and starves. Most whites do not think black Americans could ever do anything so irrational. They see blacks on television smiling, fighting evil whites, embodying white values. But the real black is not on television, and you pull your purse closer when you see him, and you lock the car doors when he swaggers by with his pants hanging down almost to his knees.

I have been in parent-teacher conferences that broke my heart: the child pleading with his parents to take him out of school; the parents convinced their child’s fears are groundless. If you love your child, show her you care— not by giving her fancy vacations or a car, but making her innocent years safe and happy. Give her the gift of a not-heavily black school.

Mr. Jackson now teaches at a majority- white school.

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#6. To: Original_Intent (#4)

I could probably spend several hours writing a post on it, but do the homework. Black America was rising, getting better educated, and culturally more sophisticated throughout the 30's, 40's, 50's, and 60's

Right you are, O_I. Some here lived thru those eras and are products of mixed neighborhoods in large cities. Were race relations better in the late 50s & early 60s? My god yes. It all changed when countless trillions of dollars was introduced into the System by Washington. There is no money to be made by race pimps if race relations are stable hence the distrust and paranoia today. The state of Blacks in America today can be traced directly to the Great Society, not the KKK.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-03-08   10:56:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Prefrontal Vortex, PSUSA, Original_Intent (#5)

There's so much in this piece that is just so classic -- and true!

Perhaps someone can find and post an article discussing the fine art of teaching white children. I went to an all white public high school, and as I recall quite well, the vast majority of the students were deplorably stupid, ignorant, and with piss poor character to match their intellectual poverty.

There is an unutterable secret among teachers: Almost all realize that blacks do not respond to traditional white instruction.

"Traditional white instruction" is a sophisticated means of indoctrination, Pavlovian training, mind control, and intellectual destruction. Perhaps the reason why blacks don't respond to the criminal attempt to own their minds is because they figured out that their natural ignorance is superior to the artificial soul killing void called "education".

Patriot Henry  posted on  2010-03-08   11:15:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Jethro Tull (#6)

Thanks. It helps to have back-up from someone who was there and can compare then and now.

Welfare, AFDC, Food Stamps, etc., have been disproportionately shoveled into the Black Community (and anecdotally I heard for years that it was much easier for a black to get welfare than a white - my grandmother living on a slender Social Security check with two two crazy sons (one schizophrenic) to support could NOT get Food Stamps), and the race pimps such as Jesse, CIA/FBI plant, Jackson have made it even worse. Yes, "Jim Crow" was wrong, as were lynchings, and treating WWII Vets like common niggers - which upset a lot of white Vets. However, because in no small part to black Combat Vets coming home and not being willing to put up withe the same old shit anymore, the Civil Rights movement began to accelerate. They were proud of their service and deservedly so. (As an aside that is why the goobermunt fears Vets of all colors - we can fight and we will fight if need arises.)

So, the eastern elite was faced with the problem of all these uppity niggers wanting to better their lives and be treated justly. So, the response? While throwing up a big smokescreen about how they were helping they destroyed the push by gelding the black community with Welfare Checks. Even worse it was set up so as to penalize intact families and reward illegitimacy. This resulted in disrupting the black community and increasing the rate of illegitimacy. Fathers were not wanted in the home because a father's job is to instill discipline and manly virtues in his boys. It was fiendish, despicable, and it worked. Thus the mess we have today with illegitimacy, which was always higher than in the white community, soaring to somewhere around 75%. That is not healthy and has had a very predictable result.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-03-08   11:20:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Original_Intent, all (#4)

Oh, and this article was also posted about 6 months ago.

Really? It didn't come up as a duplicate post. If you can remember what was posted 6 months ago, then congratulations on your outstanding memory.

They either behaved themselves or they got lynched. They beat the crap out of them or they killed them. At least that is what they did in the south. I don't know what they did to them in the north.

This is what 3 to 4 generations on the dole has done.

You are blaming whitey for niggers behavior. That is liberal fucktard bullshit. They are responsible for their own behavior, same as everyone else. Unless... ;) unless you are admitting that niggers are totally incapable of decent behavior and self control apart from government intervention, you closet racist you...

At this point it could still be turned around in two generations, but not by handing out more "social services" which is the poison that is killing them.

2 generations? More bullshit. Stop handing out free money and the niggers will go into full-blown category 5 SHTF chimpout mode in days. It's a form of extortion imo.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-08   11:23:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Jethro Tull (#6)

Right you are, O_I. Some here lived thru those eras and are products of mixed neighborhoods in large cities. Were race relations better in the late 50s & early 60s? My god yes. It all changed when countless trillions of dollars was introduced into the System by Washington. There is no money to be made by race pimps if race relations are stable hence the distrust and paranoia today. The state of Blacks in America today can be traced directly to the Great Society, not the KKK.

You didnt mention dope. You being a retired cop, that surprises me.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-08   11:28:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Patriot Henry, Prefrontal Vortex, PSUSA, Jethro Tull (#7)

"Traditional white instruction" is a sophisticated means of indoctrination, Pavlovian training, mind control, and intellectual destruction. Perhaps the reason why blacks don't respond to the criminal attempt to own their minds is because they figured out that their natural ignorance is superior to the artificial soul killing void called "education".

I would agree that the current methods of destruction instruction are just that - pavlovian. They are based on Psychiatric and Psychologically developed theories of treating children as animals to be trained. This came out of the 1920's and 1930's and was the "brainchild" of Dewey and Thorndyke - and financed by the eastern elite e.g., old man Carnegie. The objective being to create a "working class" that would not disturb their "betters" by pretensions to academic learning and actually understanding the writing of people like John Stuart Mill - who Jefferson acknowledged as an influence. No need to have an educated "working class" with uppity ideas. They might not be content to "stay in their proper place".

The best single source I know of is Charlotte Isebyt's website The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America. Charlotte gives a lot of the history and shows step by step how it was done.

"Every child in America entering school at the age of five is insane because he comes to school with certain allegiances toward our Founding Fathers, toward his parents, toward our elected officials, toward a belief in a supernatural being, and toward the sovereignty of this nation as a separate entity. It's up to you, teachers, to make all of these sick children well by creating the international child of the future."
Chester Pierce (Psychiatrist), Harvard University to a 1973 Education Seminar in Denver.

"The techniques of brainwashing developed in totalitarian countries are routinely used in psychological conditioning programs imposed on school children. These include emotional shock and desensitization, psychological isolation from sources of support, stripping away defenses, manipulative cross-examination of the individual’s underlying moral values by psychological rather than rational means. These techniques are not confined to separate courses or programs...they are not isolated idiosyncracies of particular teachers. They are products of numerous books and other educational materials in programs packaged by organizations that sell such curricula to administrators and teach the techniques to teachers. Some packages even include instructions on how to deal with parents and others who object. Stripping away psychological defenses can be done through assignments to keep diaries to be discussed in group sessions, and through role-playing assignments, both techniques used in the original brainwashing programs in China under Mao."
Thomas Sowell, writing in Forbes, 1991

While I don't agree with his left leaning politics John Taylor Gatto (Twice NYC Teacher of the Year) has a website as well with a very good history lesson via his book, which he graciously published in the public domain, An Underground History of American Education.

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Original_Intent  posted on  2010-03-08   11:40:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: PSUSA, Jetro Tull (#10)

You didnt mention dope. You being a retired cop, that surprises me.

Dope was another angle - introduced into the anti-war movement by the CIA.

The CIA IS the main force in Dope Inc..

That was admitted indirectly by the CIA Inspector General's Report released during the Klinton mal-Administration. The report only went so far as to acknowledge that the CIA had been involved in the Dope trade.

Mike Ruppert was an L.A. City Cop forced out because he uncovered, and was blowing the whistle on, CIA involvement, as the importer and supplier, to the Dope Trade in inner-city L.A..

There have been other revelations at times, quickly buried, such as the one in Sacramento which also tied the CIA to the Dope Trade. The reporter was forced out and eventually "suicided".

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-03-08   11:46:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: PSUSA (#9)

You are blaming whitey for niggers behavior. That is liberal fucktard bullshit.

Nice choice of words their. Very revealing about your perspective. Like the loony left any fact which is in disagreement with your prejudices is to be discarded.

Some day you really must learn to read something other than pulp.

Have a nice day.

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Original_Intent  posted on  2010-03-08   11:49:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Jethro Tull (#2)

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#15. To: Original_Intent (#11)

"Traditional white instruction" is a sophisticated means of indoctrination, Pavlovian training, mind control, and intellectual destruction. Perhaps the reason why blacks don't respond to the criminal attempt to own their minds is because they figured out that their natural ignorance is superior to the artificial soul killing void called "education".

That has to be the dumbest thing I have read so far this year. By far. It was even dumber than the idiot that wanted to use the bible scriptures to justify executing a killer whale.

@ O.I.

I think we all agree that the pubic school system is messed up intentionally. Who is going to argue with that?

We here, I will bet, have taken it on ourselves to learn on our own the things that were not taught in schools. So what? It hardly requires superhuman effort to do this.

Why can't blacks do this. They put forth a conscious(!) effort to remain ignorant little savages because they enjoy being ignorant little savages.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-08   11:52:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Original_Intent, Jethro Tull (#12)

The Italian "mob" controlled drug traffic in the the cities of the north east back in the 40s, 50s and 60s. They did not allow any of it to be sold in white neighborhoods. If one was caught selling dope to whites, his body might be found in a swamp somewhere.

This comes from a very close relative who grew up in Harlem when it was an Italian neighborhood. JT can probably verify.


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Critter  posted on  2010-03-08   11:53:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Original_Intent (#12) (Edited)

The CIA IS the main force in Dope Inc..

Again, you blame others for their bad behavior. You keep hinting that it's the white devil that makes them do it. No one makes anyone do anything.

The CIA did this? It wouldn't surprise me. It's probably true. I've certainly heard this before many times.

So what? Tell me, who put a gun to their head and forced them to inject, snort, or smoke, and... lets not forget, sell the drugs?

Perhaps you think they are too weak to resist the temptation?

Did you resist them through some kind if superhuman strength? The drugs are just as available to us as they are to blacks.

Want to find a dealer? Go to any city street named after martin luther king, and the dealers will find you.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-08   12:01:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: PSUSA (#15)

Why can't blacks do this. They put forth a conscious(!) effort to remain ignorant little savages because they enjoy being ignorant little savages.

Again, you have to know the history and where we began, and where things were heading. To do that you have to go back to about 1968 and start working backwards.

In brief the mess we have now is not the way things were headed until it was intentionally disrupted by large scale Psychiatric Control Programs. The white community is under the same assault and if you take a look at the white lower class they are beginning to behave more and more like the black lower class. I ride the city bus a lot so I see a lot of it and just personal observation and listening to the manner of speech and behavior points out the common denominators.

They are poorly educated, cannot read well, and have no clue as to how they are being manipulated.

I could spend hours detailing it point by bloody point, with footnotes, but I simply do not have the time to take on the project and do it correctly at the moment.

I have left you references and starting points. If you choose to set aside the preconceptions you've been given and begin looking into the history of it and trace the development you'll see where I am coming from. I don't offer these opinions in a vacuum I just don't have the time to do a proper treatise on it. Get curious - look - examine - step outside the blinders you've been handed. You have a mind, a capable one, use it.

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Original_Intent  posted on  2010-03-08   12:05:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Original_Intent (#18)

I'll check out that online book you linked to.

But, I have no preconceptions or "blinders". Just a disdain for PC bullshit, and excuses offered by you and others that would never have worked on my mother when I tried to use them...


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-08   12:10:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Jethro Tull, Original_Intent (#6)

The state of Blacks in America today can be traced directly to the Great Society, not the KKK.

Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't they the same thing? Same people?


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farmfriend  posted on  2010-03-08   12:26:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: farmfriend, Jethro Tull (#20)

The state of Blacks in America today can be traced directly to the Great Society, not the KKK.

Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't they the same thing? Same people?

Good point. Often they were, and still are - ask Hal Turner about that.

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Original_Intent  posted on  2010-03-08   12:29:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: PSUSA (#19)

I'll check out that online book you linked to.

But, I have no preconceptions or "blinders". Just a disdain for PC bullshit, and excuses offered by you and others that would never have worked on my mother when I tried to use them...

Facts are neither PC nor un-PC. They are simply facts. While I have held my own prejudices, that I have tried to overcome, because I like forming my opinions based on the available evidence I do. It is not a matter of what I would prefer to believe or want to believe it is a matter of what tale does the evidence tell?

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Original_Intent  posted on  2010-03-08   12:33:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Critter, Jethro Tull, PSUSA, farmfriend, christine, all (#16)

The Italian "mob" controlled drug traffic in the the cities of the north east back in the 40s, 50s and 60s. They did not allow any of it to be sold in white neighborhoods. If one was caught selling dope to whites, his body might be found in a swamp somewhere.

This comes from a very close relative who grew up in Harlem when it was an Italian neighborhood. JT can probably verify.

I've heard the same from "knowledgable sources".

It was really the coincidence of the Civil Rights Movement and the anti-war movement that disturbed the eastern "old money" power elite.

One of the threads you can follow is SAT scores. Throughout the 50's they rose nationwide. The generation coming up was becoming well educated across the entire economic spectrum. The numbers plateaued in the early 60's and then started gradually down until 1973 when they dropped off the face of the earth.

Backing up for a moment - the coincidence of rising test scores and a general unwillingness to just accept government PR was no coincidence. A better educated group of young people meant a more aware group of youngsters and an unwillingness to just accept and swallow the government line. As well the hundreds of body bags, along with the prospect of being drafted, had an affect as well. However, for a contrast, the Draft during WWII was instituted to put order into the flow of volunteers for military service - not merely to procure conscripts to hand a gun to. There was no shortage of men willing to sign up for what was believed, at the time, to be a just war of defense against a foreign enemy.

With Vietnam there were a lot of questions as to whether it was necessary, and certainly Vietnam was no threat to America. The propaganda for it sold intermittently and decreasingly. All the while you have trouble brewing as Black America begins to win some battles against the oppression they had been under for generations. More blacks are going to college, and at that time there were no quotas and in fact, if they didn't go to a black school, had to score better than the average white to get in.

So, just for a moment you posit the existence of a small group of hereditary wealthy who style themselves the rulers from behind the scenes. Then posit that this same group sees others rising up not as a good thing but as a threat to their dominance and a long term goal of total control. So, how is such a criminal group likely to react to a rebellion of the classes? Put it down of course. Since they could not directly use force they went for covert means using Psychiatry/Psychology and mass manipulation techniques. Another parallel thread here is that it is known that the CIA had been running mind control experimentation since at least the late 40's. That crap about studying Vets returning from Chinese control as a motivator is just a cover story as the U.S. FedGov (OSS/CIA) had already been working on it for years.

It would take me a while to make all of the connections and show in any detail how the threads intertwine, but if you spend some time at it and look for the common denominators - power, control, and money then it begins to resolve into a coherent picture and not disjoint elements in a jigsaw puzzle.

Leaving where we began, with drugs, in order to blunt the effectiveness of the Anti-War Movement the drug meme was implanted, via such as CIA Psychiatrist Timothy Leary, and Marijuana and LSD (A Psychiatric Drug developed by Sandoz Laboratories) was introduced and we got "turn on, tune in, and drop out". In other words become a zombie because then you won't be screwing up the elite's plans. So, drugs were increasingly seeded into the white community as a means of control and at one hell of a profit - used to fund other black ops.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-03-08   12:59:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: farmfriend (#20)

Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't they the same thing? Same people?

Yes they are.

Speaking of which, I understand the Grim Reaper is on watch given the frailty of Senator KKKByrd, (D) WV.

He'll be dead come the Fall.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-03-08   13:06:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Jethro Tull, farmfriend, all (#24)

That'll sure be a loss.

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Original_Intent  posted on  2010-03-08   13:11:21 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: PSUSA (#9)

This is what 3 to 4 generations on the dole has done.

You are blaming whitey for niggers behavior. That is liberal fucktard bullshit. They are responsible for their own behavior, same as everyone else. Unless... ;) unless you are admitting that niggers are totally incapable of decent behavior and self control apart from government intervention, you closet racist you...

Well it's not like it's an either-or thing.

The American state pays stupid and impulsive people to breed prolifically.

Blacks probably really are worse, at the genetic level, than they used to be.

Whites aren't immune to the process either. But there's a fundamental limit there in that it is whitey who is mugged to pay for it.

If you can remember what was posted 6 months ago, then congratulations on your outstanding memory.

Anything that encourages white nationalism bugs the hell out of anti-whites and bears repeating.

Whoever is president on November 19, 2013 will give the 150th anniversary reading of Father Abraham Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address. The political campaign of 2012 will demand that “we must have our historic first African American President Obama reelected so he can read the Gettysburg Address in 2013 and show how far we’ve come, while also reminding us of how much more work we need to do in eradicating White Privilege by paying slavery reparations to African Americans, all of whom would have been brilliant philosophers and scientists if they had not been kidnapped and stolen from Africa by the blonde haired, blue eyed evil Europeans.”

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2010-03-08   13:11:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#26)

Anything that encourages white nationalism bugs the hell out of anti-whites and bears repeating.

And of course by your definition anyone who does not wander around as a hate filled pustule is somehow "anti-white" because they won't join you in a good "hate".

Spare me.

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Original_Intent  posted on  2010-03-08   13:13:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Original_Intent (#22)

Facts are neither PC nor un-PC.

True. But when manipulated they can be used to make PC statements that sound as if they are true due to the selective nature of the "evidence" presented.

This board is for the most part a libertarian board. Libertarians and conservatives seem to hold personal responsibility in high regard. I agree with that. The facts you presented re: CIA and welfare, while they probably are facts, are selective and relieve others of their personal and collective responsibility to their own people. You choose to blame everyone else for the Typical Nigger Behavior, except for the "people"(?) that behave that way.

You cannot blame one group for another groups actions. Like I already said, there was no force used against them.

Now, are they too weak and stupid as a group to behave like civilized humans when they are in a group? THey usually do behave themselves when they are alone. It's when you get more than about 5 niggers together that you start to have problems. Then they get real "brave".


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-08   13:16:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: farmfriend (#20)

Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't they the same thing? Same people?

Robert Byrd?

Lod  posted on  2010-03-08   13:19:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#26) (Edited)

Whites aren't immune to the process either. But there's a fundamental limit there in that it is whitey who is mugged to pay for it.

This is true. Whites are not immune. They / we do stupid things too. And without whites welfare won't get paid. And without whites, this country would never have been built. We just fucked it up, but good, when we didnt deport the slaves back to africa, or just left them alone over there and made other arrangements for what crops to plant and who to pick them.

Anything that encourages white nationalism bugs the hell out of anti-whites and bears repeating.

Sure. Whites built it and the niggers and spics want it. Unfortunately, whites are letting it be destroyed by accepting the blame for others actions. You can see it here. Then there are the white politicians and other whores in the media etc that are directly responsible and deserve nothing but a noose and a mass unmarked grave.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-08   13:27:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Original_Intent (#27)

Was I talking to you?

Whoever is president on November 19, 2013 will give the 150th anniversary reading of Father Abraham Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address. The political campaign of 2012 will demand that “we must have our historic first African American President Obama reelected so he can read the Gettysburg Address in 2013 and show how far we’ve come, while also reminding us of how much more work we need to do in eradicating White Privilege by paying slavery reparations to African Americans, all of whom would have been brilliant philosophers and scientists if they had not been kidnapped and stolen from Africa by the blonde haired, blue eyed evil Europeans.”

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2010-03-08   13:28:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: PSUSA (#28) (Edited)

I am excusing no one. People are responsible for their behavior. However, people respond as they have been trained and taught. What kind of training and teaching do you think goes on in a dysfunctional home with a Welfare Queen at the helm?

One can contrast the behavior with other groups of blacks i.e., the black middle class and upper working class. While some of the disagreeable behavior has begun to filter in you largely see a different set of reactions. My most memorable was standing in a chow line at a mess hall and listening to a well educated young black woman correcting her boyfriend's ghetto english. That was a very interesting contrast.

If you talk to a black kid from Southern California, who didn't grow up in the inner city, if you close your eyes very often you can't tell whether they are black or white. They are a product of the culture they grew up in. That is the result of education and training in an intact home. This was much more common prior to the advent of the "Great Society". Negroes did not want to be treated as Negroes but as people, and they worked to gain that position.

When you have a group that has been under a multi-generational Psychiatric assault you have to expect that it would have consequences. It is not that they are bad people, or even stupid people, but they have been conditioned through culture and, sadly, upbringing - to react and behave in a certain way. That is culture. It is a debased culture that has been created for them but a culture nonetheless.

One can now see the results showing up in the white community. When I ride the bus now it is not uncommon to hear some white kid saying fuck this, fuck that, fuck, fuck, fuck, in a loud voice. Or some cretin, with a sullen angry look on their face, playing their iPod at room filling volume. Ask them to turn it down and you risk a fist fight. They don't care "man" - "fuck you" - "I wanna' lissen to my music". When I was a young teen anyone who did that would have found themselves on the curb - and likely two or three strong adult men ensuring that the offender got off - or got hurt (which no cop would have noticed). I found myself exploding one day when a woman on crutches got on a a crowded bus and none of the 6 or 7 men (all white) in the front seats bothered to get up to offer her a seat. When I was a kid all 6 or 7 would have gotten up and let her have her choice while they stood by ensuring she was comfortably seated before they again sat - oldest first. The coarsening of the overall culture is not noticed by a lot of people because they are immersed in it and it becomes part of "the way it is".

Black culture has simply been pushed into a greater extreme, and hatreds and resentments inflamed, by media in particular. Look at the ongoing media message - stripped of the play acting it is almost invariably blacks good, whites evil. The "heavy" is increasingly a white male, and the hero/heroine "a person of color". Not that I have anything against blacks having heroes, but look at the heroes pushed in the common culture - "Public Enemy #1". Now there's a great role model.

The ongoing degradation, intentional, of the culture is intentional and blacks were the first recipients of "the program", but whites are catching up fast.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-03-08   13:43:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: PSUSA (#28)

Now, are they too weak and stupid as a group to behave like civilized humans when they are in a group? THey usually do behave themselves when they are alone. It's when you get more than about 5 niggers together that you start to have problems. Then they get real "brave".

A mob is a mob and will react as one in direct proportion to their education and training. If a group is taught that their worth IS the group then it will be amplified.

I have seen similar behavior in lower class white mobs. It is just more exaggerated in the black community because it has been continually reinforced by media and then cultural messages. When you are taught 24/7 that all whites hate you because you are black you begin to see where that can lead. Resentments (irrational but ingrained) and hatreds (again irrational but programmed in).

The elites do not practice mind control because it is ineffective. Unfortunately it is all too effective upon the unaware and uneducated. Take a look at Freeptardia - nothing but a mass of seething hatreds and all created by the widespread use of disinformation and misinformation. "Da Aye-Rabs is commin' to gitcher babies." They can justify any amount of mass murder because it is for "National Sekurity".

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-03-08   13:55:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: PSUSA (#0)

Dis artikel be rayciss 'n sheeit

_________________________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

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#35. To: PSUSA, All (#0)

It is in the black man’s interest to have whites in Zimbabwe but he drives them out and starves. Most whites do not think black Americans could ever do anything so irrational.

"For whenever a white man seeks to live among them (blacks) as their equals they will either destroy him or devour him. And they will destroy all of his work. Never fraternize with them as equals. Never accept them as your social equals or they will devour you. They will destroy you." ~ Albert Schweitzer, Recipient of the 1952 Nobel Peace Prize.

_________________________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

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#36. To: X-15 (#34)

Dis artikel be rayciss 'n sheeit

LOL! Seems like the truth is often interpreted in that light.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-03-08   15:24:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: PSUSA (#9)

You are blaming whitey for niggers behavior. That is liberal fucktard bullshit.

That's what you paid for. Social engineering.

They are responsible for their own behavior, same as everyone else. Unless... ;) unless you are admitting that niggers are totally incapable of decent behavior and self control apart from government intervention, you closet racist you...

Mind control works. It's done what it was supposed to. You should be jumping with glee and breaking out the champagne - whitey has managed to keep the black man down. Why are you complaining about getting what you paid for?

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#38. To: Lod (#29)

Robert Byrd?

If you want to bring up specific people. The Great Society was Dems and the KKK were Dems. To me that means they are the same.


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#39. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#31)

"Was I talking to you?"

Who needs permission, toilet mouth?

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#40. To: farmfriend (#38)

Byrd is the most outstanding example that came to mind of the K's and the D's.

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#41. To: Lod (#40)

Byrd is the most outstanding example that came to mind of the K's and the D's.

Yes and it amazes me that after leading the filibuster of the 64 civil rights act blacks would still vote for him over a Rep.


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-03-08   21:03:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: farmfriend (#38)

If you want to bring up specific people. The Great Society was Dems and the KKK were Dems. To me that means they are the same

Utopians of all stripes worry me, I couldn't care less what their dream is, the fact that they imagine themselves fit to impose it upon me makes them suspect.

“we were respected as the most disinterested and charitable nation in the world.” - Robert A. Taft

Dakmar  posted on  2010-03-08   21:05:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Dakmar (#42)

the fact that they imagine themselves fit to impose it upon me makes them suspect.

Exactly and many who believe the Republicans are our salvation need to heed that point.


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-03-08   21:08:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: PSUSA (#0)

There are plenty of white anorexics, but I have never met or heard of a black anorexic.

Mr. Jackson has never heard of Michael Jackson?

What planet has he been living on? And yes, Michael was black. ;

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2010-03-09   0:11:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: RickyJ (#44)

I didnt know jackson was anorexic.

I just thought he was a child molesting freak.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-03-09   7:34:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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